[Attention] LF > Goon Glitch update from PWE Staff

EighthKnight - Sanctuary

There's some veno in the forums that needs to **** -_-
I agree. I know people who are at level 101 and gooned there. And they're **** players. I really hate people acting all tough stuff because they're 100-105 yet I can two hit them because their armor is **** and their skill is ****. These people are a waste of space in the game. And for the people who don't think it's possible to go from 0-105 in three weeks, think again. The goon's gave better exp than heads, and the glitch allowed multitudes of them. The people who goon glitched for squads were able to handle sometimes 50 at a time. They have not been banned. And the sad thing is, Frankie made that promise and he can't keep it because it was their fault in the first place for letting it go on.
This case is a lot like the SP rage right now. All the pk'ers will get banned right? b:thanks No they won't. And it won't stop. My 47 psy got pk'ed yesterday and when I told my faction... they said he's always in there. b:pleased Don't you feel proud, Mr. PK'er? You killed a level 47!
... and don't tell me to send a ticket in because when you're killed in SP you are automatically booted. No screenshot but the *** whoopin' words I delivered him after. I'm not naming him.

MsDominatrix - Heavens Tear

Frankie replied!

I'm sure Tremblewith is still keeping track of the days.

krisnda

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide wrote: »

I doubt he will

Well here you go. b:victory

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide

EighthKnight - Sanctuary wrote: »

There's some veno in the forums that needs to **** -_-
I agree. I know people who are at level 101 and gooned there. And they're **** players. I really hate people acting all tough stuff because they're 100-105 yet I can two hit them because their armor is **** and their skill is ****. These people are a waste of space in the game. And for the people who don't think it's possible to go from 0-105 in three weeks, think again. The goon's gave better exp than heads, and the glitch allowed multitudes of them. The people who goon glitched for squads were able to handle sometimes 50 at a time. They have not been banned. And the sad thing is, Frankie made that promise and he can't keep it because it was their fault in the first place for letting it go on.
This case is a lot like the SP rage right now. All the pk'ers will get banned right? b:thanks No they won't. And it won't stop. My 47 psy got pk'ed yesterday and when I told my faction... they said he's always in there. b:pleased Don't you feel proud, Mr. PK'er? You killed a level 47!

errrr did you forget to take your meds?

I find it funny you say you can 2 hit people that goon glitched to 100+ and then say they lvled so fast cause they could handle 50 goons at a time. Sorry but that doesn't add up, 50 at a time would be way too many for anyone that isn't very well geared.

Grow up, move on, play your own game and then maybe you'll remember it's a game and have fun

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide

Krisnda wrote: »

Well here you go. b:victory

b:chuckle beat you too it with my surprised response b:chuckle

krisnda

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide wrote: »

b:chuckle beat you too it with my surprised response b:chuckle

Yea I just saw that xD.

EighthKnight - Sanctuary

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide wrote: »

errrr did you forget to take your meds?

I find it funny you say you can 2 hit people that goon glitched to 100+ and then say they lvled so fast cause they could handle 50 goons at a time. Sorry but that doesn't add up, 50 at a time would be way too many for anyone that isn't very well geared.

Grow up, move on, play your own game and then maybe you'll remember it's a game and have fun

The people who goon glitched squads as in the people who charged the ones who wanted the goon's done. b:kiss

dfdsfdsa

two months later he replied..... that should keep us cool for another two, right? dont ban ****, just reset servers lvls to 102-103 something everyone can get to without glitch. we dont care about bans, we just want iqual conditions for competition.

Quilue - Sanctuary

It was PWI's fault that the problem existed in the first place...It was also their fault that it was not fixed for a long time.

Let us remind ourselves of the fact that Hypers were never meant to be used in FCC in the first place. This is why devs didn't bother to fix it after months - wasn't their problem, and this is why it's all on PWI's head. Did you expect there to be an actual fix? Like...for Devs to change up the mobs or boss behavior? Why should they? It's not affecting their servers.

All the problems people think goons has caused, Hyper FCC has been doing this the whole time. High level noobs, high level alts attained quickly for soloing and keys, etc etc etc. There were even lv 105 characters from Hyper FCC alone.

Why wasn't there outrage over Hyper use in FCC? Isn't it a bit off...just a bit off, that a significant number of lv 100s were springing up in a matter of weeks? That 10x toons were living in 7x - 8x instances? Now you think you're being punished because Goon exp got nerfed. NO! You're not being punished, you're all being let off easy. Hypers were not meant to be used in FCC.

Until PW-CN puts Hypers in FCC on their servers, then you can claim otherwise. Why haven't all these Hyper exploiters been banned? Because it's PWI's own fault that Hypers can be used in FCC. Same reason why goon glitchers have not been banned - because it's PWI's own fault that Hypers can be used in FCC.

Jadsia - Lost City

Tremblewith - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I just want to point out that I've seen a solid 25-30 posts by you recently on PWI forums. Every single post was a QQ post about people QQing. You crack me up, lol. You are a pretty epic troll, sir.

Pot calling the kettle black, except the pot is too stupid to realize it. LOL! Rage more, NO LIFE!!!

WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »

That wikipedia Quote dropped me. Tell me, do you actually know what communism is? China is communism only in name, it`s actually quite capitalist country, more than some EU countries these days. I could call my chair super awesome throne of a gamer but in truth it would still be a chair.

You are simply too freaking dumb to understand the concept I`m talking bout. It really boils down to whether rules should be followed or not. That is a valid question and I would call my post anything but crying. I did explain how goon glitchers and possible punishment is relevant to that for the simpletons like you but I guess I did waste my time with it.

The glitch has been reported, tickets have been sent and no punishments have followed as far as I know. Now, give me a one reason why I shouldnt glitch in TW when the opposition is doing the same with no punishment whatsoever? Should I glitch and break the ToS or should I actually handicap mysel, I should speak in manner "we" as faction. Should we handicap ourselves and send tickets/raise the issue so the idiots like you could tell us to RQ?

Ps. The mix of arrogance and stupidity is usually funny but you`re making it completely antifun.

As far as you know, which is next to nothing really. I've seen people banned for abusing glitches. Not only that I've seen their illicit gains from glitching confiscated. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

As for Communism goes, I'm 42. I was around during the cold war. I was around during the Vietnam war, I was around during the fall of the Soviet Union. I was around when the Berlin Wall fell. I know what communism is and I know in order to have communism a totalitarian government is required to supress the natural free will expressed by the people a communist government reigns over.

Needless to say I was also around when the Chinese government used tanks against unarmed pro-democracy protesters in Tiananmen Square, grinding human beings into hamburger with tank treads. The totalitarian methods that the Chinese government uses to control its people is not a secret. Neither is the suppression of free speech, free religion, free press - all of which is controlled by the gonvernment. Dissent against the Chinese government is not tolerated - dissenters are jailed sometimes indefinetely or sometimes executed. The Chinese economy is heavily subsidized by the government - an element required for a communist system. Sure, it has psuedo-capitalist structure in it but it has to in order to trade on our world market system but the Chinese Communist ruling party controls everything within its borders.

_Nerox_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

they said the worst offenders will be banned, they still run around DW.
Way to lie to players GMs! and its not the first time... the GMs of this game cant be trusted...
Thats some very very very bad PR.

I lost my trust in the GMs of this game.
I Dont recomend this game to anyone anymore, and I hope others wont either.

Then GTFO. Why torture yourself with it. Are you a self-hating **** hell-bent on causing yourself frustration, pain and grief?

Kerona - Sanctuary

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Wow some1 who defend behavior against the law. So If I will have sport car and I will go so fast, I will hit child, I can argue, that I spend lot of money for my expensive car, so I have right to go fast?

Principle is the same no matter is it game or RL. If you cheating in game, you will cheat in RL, because it's in your nature and character.

Where did I defend them?

Amatsu_hime - Sanctuary

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Wow some1 who defend behavior against the law. So If I will have sport car and I will go so fast, I will hit child, I can argue, that I spend lot of money for my expensive car, so I have right to go fast?

Principle is the same no matter is it game or RL. If you cheating in game, you will cheat in RL, because it's in your nature and character.

LOL you really can't distinguish between reality and a VIDEO GAME?!

Wow... you really need to step away from the screen and GO OUTSIDE!

Seriously.

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

Amatsu_hime - Sanctuary wrote: »

LOL you really can't distinguish between reality and a VIDEO GAME?!

Wow... you really need to step away from the screen and GO OUTSIDE!

Seriously.

You would be surprised how much similarity they have. It's psychological thing. You don't do thing against the law in RL, because there is real punishment and NOT because you don't want to. In game you doing things against the law, because here is no real punishment. Game beautifully show you, how you really is how your character really is.

Tremblewith - Heavens Tear

frankieraye wrote: »

We'll have an update on this issue soon; don't worry, it hasn't been forgotten.

Thanks for finally giving a response after 28 days of daily bumps, lol. I'll keep bumping the thread however, until this "update to an update to an update" is told. :P

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

Tremblewith - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Thanks for finally giving a response after 28 days of daily bumps, lol. I'll keep bumping the thread however, until this "update to an update to an update" is told. :P

Maybe his next response will be after another 1/2 year. I wouldn't believe him so easy after all.

Knownase - Heavens Tear

Ah yes, the infamous term "soon."

Gotta love it.

MyuMyu - Harshlands

It's entertaining to watch some people really got all hyped & stressed out over a game. b:laugh

At least it brings some life to the forum, keep it going until page #100 guys! xoxo

Tsukyini - Raging Tide

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

.

Why wasn't there outrage over Hyper use in FCC? Isn't it a bit off...just a bit off, that a significant number of lv 100s were springing up in a matter of weeks? That 10x toons were living in 7x - 8x instances? Now you think you're being punished because Goon exp got nerfed. NO! You're not being punished, you're all being let off easy. Hypers were not meant to be used in FCC.

Until PW-CN puts Hypers in FCC on their servers, then you can claim otherwise. Why haven't all these Hyper exploiters been banned? Because it's PWI's own fault that Hypers can be used in FCC. Same reason why goon glitchers have not been banned - because it's PWI's own fault that Hypers can be used in FCC.

Are you saying that hypers being allowed in FCC is something that happened unexpectedly and that PWE just chose never to fix it?b:question

Also, lol @ "soon". I'm starting to think the PWE staff is making a drinking game out of the threads on the topic of the goon glitch. b:chuckle

PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver

Jadsia - Lost City wrote: »

As for Communism goes, I'm 42. I was around during the cold war. I was around during the Vietnam war, I was around during the fall of the Soviet Union. I was around when the Berlin Wall fell.

somehow, I find hard to believe that living during an event as a 15yo, especially considering the high probability of propaganda from both sides, add a lot of extra credibility to one's opinion as to what really happened (And even less if the individual in question did not live near the events), let alone his ability to judge whether a certain political system of one country now fullfills the criteria required to fit a characterization.

note that I am not saying that your views are right or wrong, just that, imo, your argument will be better supported if you said that you had a degree in a related field instead of "I was 15 when the berlin wall fell (and definetely not brainwashed by propaganda)" -not that any of those are not fallacies

WnbTank - Archosaur

Jadsia - Lost City wrote: »

As far as you know, which is next to nothing really. I've seen people banned for abusing glitches. Not only that I've seen their illicit gains from glitching confiscated. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

As for Communism goes, I'm 42. I was around during the cold war. I was around during the Vietnam war, I was around during the fall of the Soviet Union. I was around when the Berlin Wall fell. I know what communism is and I know in order to have communism a totalitarian government is required to supress the natural free will expressed by the people a communist government reigns over.

Needless to say I was also around when the Chinese government used tanks against unarmed pro-democracy protesters in Tiananmen Square, grinding human beings into hamburger with tank treads. The totalitarian methods that the Chinese government uses to control its people is not a secret. Neither is the suppression of free speech, free religion, free press - all of which is controlled by the gonvernment. Dissent against the Chinese government is not tolerated - dissenters are jailed sometimes indefinetely or sometimes executed. The Chinese economy is heavily subsidized by the government - an element required for a communist system. Sure, it has psuedo-capitalist structure in it but it has to in order to trade on our world market system but the Chinese Communist ruling party controls everything within its borders.

Thanks for proving me right. What you know is what you heard from news. Have you ever read the Philosophy behind it. Or even thought bout it? I admit there are few reasons why strict control from government is more likely to happen in Communist country than a capitalist but it`s not what Communism is bout. To certain extent it`s equality, in giving what you can to society and that being fine. We should remember that when Communism was found - World was quite a different place with little if any human rights among common folk.

I see China as elitist oligarchy with maybe minor shades of Communism if you really want to see them but then again, you can see whatever if you really want to. It`s just a lot easier to gather support for Communism than it is for the rule of the few. A lot of things you described are actually signs on Dictatorship, which is quite different from Communism on ideal level. Granted Communism is linked to dictatorship in human history but even then they are not the same thing.

Ps. Kitty eagerly waiting what actions is PWE taking to fix this injustice.

XXZeonXx - Harshlands

ZoracGallant - Raging Tide wrote: »

errrr did you forget to take your meds?

I find it funny you say you can 2 hit people that goon glitched to 100+ and then say they lvled so fast cause they could handle 50 goons at a time. Sorry but that doesn't add up, 50 at a time would be way too many for anyone that isn't very well geared.

Grow up, move on, play your own game and then maybe you'll remember it's a game and have fun

I'm almost sure a good 9x squad with a non-idiot Seeker who had expel on his genie could take 50, considering that's not far from the number of mobs in the actual EXP room, and some 9x squads can do that without a cleric.

Oh, and lol @ people quoting wikipedia and trying to use it as a reliable primary source, as well as being completely oblivious to the influence of media, propaganda and the internet.

Also, I'd like 105 so that I could see all Sins when I got my stealth detection skill in a few weeks, and so that anyone who was below level 102 would hit me for 10% less damage than normal. Genie level and extra stat points are a bonus too, I suppose.

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

XXZeonXx - Harshlands wrote: »

I'm almost sure a good 9x squad with a non-idiot Seeker who had expel on his genie could take 50, considering that's not far from the number of mobs in the actual EXP room, and some 9x squads can do that without a cleric.

Oh, and lol @ people quoting wikipedia and trying to use it as a reliable primary source, as well as being completely oblivious to the influence of media, propaganda and the internet.

Also, I'd like 105 so that I could see all Sins when I got my stealth detection skill in a few weeks, and so that anyone who was below level 102 would hit me for 10% less damage than normal. Genie level and extra stat points are a bonus too, I suppose.

Exactly. Me as psy with +10 R8 weapon can take for instance 1M goons at ones, due to my 10s physical immunity(+AOEs) and till this immunity wear off, the goons are dead, because they are not magic resistance, to kill them is easy and with seeker would be piece of cake. Some1 with R9 psy +10 would kill goons with blink of eye.

_Nerox_ - Dreamweaver

Jadsia - Lost City wrote: »

Then GTFO. Why torture yourself with it. Are you a self-hating **** hell-bent on causing yourself frustration, pain and grief?

Get some IRL friends, I doubt u have anyb:bye

_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary

Guys.....

They are NOT going to be banned...


WHY?

Because the "Worst offenders" are HUGE cs scrubs who dump money on this game.

Would you get a restraining order against a slightly annoying person that gave you money for nothing?
Especially if you almost NEVER have to even see or talk to them?


NO

I seriously wonder what is so GOD DAMN hard to understand about this?
Why can't you idiots get it already?
They wont ban people who give them money, and they are NOT going to seriously ban anyone for this. Frankie has already vaguely said that they do not even want to ban these people because its "PWE's fault" for letting it happen....




http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1263641

Tsukyini - Raging Tide

Jadsia - Lost City wrote: »

Then GTFO. Why torture yourself with it. Are you a self-hating **** hell-bent on causing yourself frustration, pain and grief?

Pssst. I think the word you're looking for is "****". b:chuckle

WnbTank - Archosaur

_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

Guys.....

They are NOT going to be banned...


WHY?

Because the "Worst offenders" are HUGE cs scrubs who dump money on this game.

Would you get a restraining order against a slightly annoying person that gave you money for nothing?
Especially if you almost NEVER have to even see or talk to them?


NO

I seriously wonder what is so GOD DAMN hard to understand about this?
Why can't you idiots get it already?
They wont ban people who give them money.



http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1263641

Which is why kitty been promoting idea of either super hypers or button to 105 after hitting 100/101. Make it easier than it was for glitchers, that`s the only way PWE can approach this matter due how high amount of big time CSers gooned. They cant punish them by banning them, what they can do is make their glitching become irrelevant and in sense, wasted effort.

_Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary

WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »

Which is why kitty been promoting idea of either super hypers or button to 105 after hitting 100/101. Make it easier than it was for glitchers, that`s the only way PWE can approach this matter due how high amount of big time CSers gooned. They cant punish them by banning them, what they can do is make their glitching become irrelevant and in sense, wasted effort.

They really should just put the fkn glitch back in. That way everyone can be noobs together.

_Nerox_ - Dreamweaver

Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »

Pssst. I think the word you're looking for is "****". b:chuckle

I cut myself to sleep every night b:cool

Ironyb:chuckle

Quilue - Sanctuary

Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »

Are you saying that hypers being allowed in FCC is something that happened unexpectedly and that PWE just chose never to fix it?b:question

Also, lol @ "soon". I'm starting to think the PWE staff is making a drinking game out of the threads on the topic of the goon glitch. b:chuckle

I'm saying PWI let it happen.

PWI willfully opened this can of worms, and now they have to deal with the state of their game. They now have to deal with their PvP servers being empty because everyone is in instances, their players constantly complaining about the quality of high level players, their players ******** over a goon glitch and not being satisfied with the "fix" etc etc.

This is why GMs were bumbling over a simple reply right from the start of the Goon glitch. They know PWI ****ed up hard and the devs are just going to ignore them. Hypers in FCC is ****ed up and ****ed up the game. There is really no need to beat the dead horse by talking about how much damage Goons did blah blah blah.

_Nerox_ - Dreamweaver

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

I'm saying PWI let it happen.

PWI willfully opened this can of worms, and now they have to deal with the state of their game. They now have to deal with their PvP servers being empty because everyone is in instances, their players constantly complaining about the quality of high level players, their players ******** over a goon glitch and not being satisfied with the "fix" etc etc.

This is why GMs are bumbling over a simple reply. They know PWI ****ed up hard.

Its dyingb:sad