Archers Outdated?

StormHydra - Sanctuary

Menarin - Dreamweaver wrote: »

-->This I can somewhat say "ok" to. Long before the Aps craze I had farmed 150k rep (from doing fb's and quests, old school I know) and had 34mil saved up. So I did what any sane person would do, I blew the rest of my coin on rank gear. Greater survivability = more coin. Now I have enough coin saved from just getting ecstasy cards every day or other day that I don't actually need to farm. Sure its slow, but I have a life. b:cry

But let's not let me rant, because I'm sure nobody cares about this^

-->The main thing I don't understand, is why use claws/fists? Sure you kill things faster, sure its great if you want to solo farm, but if I drop 150k-200k damage 3-4 times in 1 HF and do around 50k-70k normals what need is there for a claw-archer in my squad? You're not being very useful in squad dynamics by using fists, you don't bring anything to the table I cant get better from a sin or a bm. In all honesty I would rather just go get a sin, because that at least makes sense, they have bloodpaint and it will keep the other melee DD's happy. In fact I would rather take a veno over a claw-archer because at least then it adds to my attack damage with amp, and thus I make up for the negligible damage you would have done to slightly kill the boss faster.

-->And before we even go there, I agree, yes MAYBE you take off about 30-40 seconds of boss combat. But hey idc because I'm here to play a game not zoom through it with no intention of enjoyment. And if we're going to use logic in a six-man squad two-aps classes is really all you need (clarcher, clawrcher, clawarcher, claw-archer? wow that looks **** on paper) not being one of my preferences.

-->inb4youcounterwith"whyareyouneededinsquadsyou'reawizard"
I'm replaceable like everyone else, but I can debuff elemental damage and make people resist it. I also tank like no 2morrow. I DD hard as hell. I know the benefits to my class, but this isn't about me, its about YOU. What can YOU a claw-archer do that makes it worthwhile for ME to consider taking YOU along for nirvy/delta/TT?

And before anyone gets mad or rages or misunderstands, I'm sincerely confused as to the long term benefits of claw-archers outside of solo combat, farming, and as replacement aps when there is none, which we all known there will never NOT be.

TL: DR the point of the claw-archer outside of farming is...?

Vindis - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Cloudcharger/LG cape information comes from a friend that purchased both for his BM. Cloucharger 45mil. LG Cape 70mil. Given this was abit ago, but still, LG cape should cost more because it has -int and people love them some -int (ask yourself, for you are pro aps).

Also, if I was gonna spend the coin for a deicide, I would most definitely put it on a BM. Fist mastery+Bell = Winning at solo grinding compared to an archer. As an archer I do want to do the most damage I possible can with a bow, else I wouldve rolled something else.

My main arguement against going full aps on an archer is:

1) High pop of BMs/Sins means alot of melee based DDs that hit harder than you and dps harder than you.

2) Bow kills everything before a melee can hit it. Why bother wasting coin on aps I won't ever use but for a boss? My archer DDs hard enough as is with a bow. Last I checked dps order for phys classes was: Sin, BM, Archer. A Bow will out dps fists for quite a while in that first spark. And its not like afk auto attacking is much different with fists vs a bow. Bow just means I don't need to spend 70mil+ on an LG cape and switch my ornas/tome all the time. Sounds good to me tbh. I swear lol, and people argue that Sage is more expensive than demon...I don't ever want to worry about how much the HA99 ornas cost. The adds aren't even good enough for me to consider >.>

And my logic on the bow thing is sound. A Sage with a bow WILL get aggro from 2.86 BMs (likely a demon too due to demon spark). Crit rate of a 1/3 shots > 2.86. It will happen. 2.86 isn't that much. Crit rate + higher spikes and especially since I am a DPH build sage (EP/Frenzy every spark unless I'm tanking) means I DD hard. Not to mention I am ALWAYS in squad with my wizard brother. Wizard undine strike lowers fire/water/earth resistances. Isnt it nice that I deal both fire and water (frostblade) with my normals? Sage Frost arrow crits for well over 50k with undine. Also, I checked for you. If I were demon and (based on a pool of my faction and my friendslist) Demon with 117 base str for Warsoul of Earth/gear for deicides I would have about 470 more p atk if sage (pwcalc ftw). I can only imagine that margin growing if I restat my extra strength and got higher refines/better shards/r9. Sure it isn't much, but still every little bit helps, thats why archer is THE highest dps ranged DD. Not 3rd best melee dps class...b:chuckle

Yes, fists will DD slightly more on bosses, which is the only useful thing to use fists on. Mobs die before they enter melee range. I pvp with my bow, can't freeze/stunlock someone for 15-16 seconds with fists. Keep in mind I already said that. Pretty much the only fists I would aim for are Gorenox Vanity because we can't get BP like sins/BMs. Yet another reason to roll a sin/bm for farming. More soloing capabilities due to BP. And if I ever did invest in a pair of fists, I would use them only for TANKING melee bosses if no bm/sin was available. 2mil/50mirages/50chips/8subs from BH100 means I make alot of profit doing very little. Use subs to solo TT for mats to sell. Use chips to make molds to craft and sell. Use mirages to refine or to sell (or for Warsong). 2mil is straight up coin lols. In fact my archer can just do the above while my barb continues his way to 100. I honestly don't see the point in doing Nirvy unless its 2x since 3-4 runs averages my squad of 6 about 600-800k each which could have been made in 2 solo TTs.

Another point, why is a level 98 demon archer attempting to lecture me on aps? You don't even have TT99 yet. What are you? 1.33? 1.43? You have no aps. Unless you were stupid enough to waste coin on TT90 gold or (god forbid) TT80gold. Keep in mind I only have r8/99+4/6 having only been 100 less than a month, so I am not well geared myself, but to be lectured on aps by someone who doesn't have it yet (or even have my aps) is well, a bit redundant. You got .87 with a bow yet? You rocking 4.2k p def unbuffed? I have my doubts. GL tanking stuff b:bye

I am commenting on my experience being level 100 pure dex sage with minimum +aps solely from my r8/TT99. I don't need aps to be in squads. I have to tank nearly everything. I form everything. I bring whatever classes I want to bring to Nirvy/FC/BH. Wiz, Psy, Veno, Sin, Cleric? Sure bring it lol. I'm all for helping out the other classes that are actually useful in TW like Psys/Wizzies/Venos/Axe BMs. No one looks at me and says "oh he is a horrible DD because hes sage". The last demon archer that said that to me got 1 shot by a Stormrage crit lols and that was pre-99 (aka pre-good gear, as in gear you don't have yet; also he was demon ^_^).

And again, since you keep neglecting that I've said it (I've said it in other threads too). Demon has great dps and -- >SUPERIOR<-- dps potential. However, if your playstyle is better suited to sage, then by all means roll one. It's not as if 10% more crit means Sage never crits and can't DD. I DD harder with non crit normals, and harder with crit'd normals. Demon hits harder when QS/STA/Stun proc. And hits faster when Demon sparked (obviously). Still, sage is a viable alternative, and both are great for pvp.

Note: Apologies for the essaylike posts lol. Sometimes youre a college student taking tons of english history classes. 8 pages is nothing so these posts are really nothing. b:victory

Vindis - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Fists on an archer doesnt make much logical sense in the fact that if you were so concerned with trying to cut costs you would have just rerolled a sin anyways. Sins can use half of your gear via account stash and are the highest dps class and best for farming. Its not like bows dont DD hard. They were used before the aps craze if Im not mistaken. DPS really matters very little end game unless you are so concerned with farming (I would rather farm IRL tyvm ) If DPS is so important roll a fish or make an LA BM that wears your archer gear as a farming alt.

Cutting costs isnt really justified by getting 2 sets of gear. Str rings/LG cape or I could just save 30mil on the LG cape and get Cloudcharger instead and aim towards a P def neck. You know, things that are actually useful in pvp. Or I could put on some +dex/+p atk rings and get even more dph (I prefer accuracy rings). PvE is still so easy Im not sure why people try 5.0 on an archer. Sure its cheaper than BM. Sure its faster than a bow (marginally and for bosses only; the extra aps above my 2.5 doesn't justify my loss in bow damage or the expenses I would pay, perhaps in the long run, but I'm satisfied as is).

Also, demons really tend to devalue Sage spark. 25% reduction to damage taken and extra chi gaining skills arent meant to be taken lightly(I will have cloud eruption soon too mind you). Have you tanked every boss from 89 down? Mostly because nothing else keeps aggro from you. This includes Pole/Nob and some SoT bosses. Also Sage BoA is pretty nice for solo farming too (Yes, I have it).

Nay, never did I dismiss "so much crit/burst damage potential". I've always said go Demon for dps, but a sage has its benefits too. Its undeniable that QS/STA/Stun are great demon. However, if you fail to see the benefit of a longer stun or 600+ more p atk (which becomes more if Im pure and the Demon is fist build) per arrow then you do not realize that can mean the difference between 1-2 shotting a caster or having them hit back and kill you. 33% crit rate is still pretty nice ijs.

And correct me if Im wrong but a sage builds for defense whereas a demon builds for dps. Im afraid (at least in my view) full garnets (cant afford JoSD/Vit stones atm), a phys cube neck, Wings of Cloudcharger and a warsong ele belt outweigh any other possible ornament combination you could show me bar r9 with similar shards/neck/cape. Refines give enough hp.

And if you truly don't believe Sage archers can DD well, I steal aggro from many things without trying. Demon sparked 2.86 BMs, Barbs, r9+12 Wizards, Hercs and anything else that isnt 3.33 or higher. Under the right conditions Ive hit for a surplus of 145k. I even take from similarly geared sins half the time. Would I want the aps I get from demon spark? Probably not no because I would die much more often. The one time I would value fists for an archer would be to tank melee range bosses so I don't do half damage and the other DDs can go all out, but even then I would rather use my barb or have someone else tank it. Sage and Demon is a different mindset and not really relevant in this thread. Regardless, Demon has more dps (on every class) and sage is more defensive/chi oriented.

_blood_rain - Sanctuary wrote: »

Dude, tl:dr....seriously.

EDIT: came back and read it all cuz i was bored. well, kind of, I skimmed some parts.
First of all, why are you talking about "full aps"? what the hell does that phrase even mean? Anyway, reading this has made 2 things explicitly clear to me
1. you are not a farmer, therefore you would not see the value in equipping an archer to farm.
2. you don't do a whole lot of research around here, because fist mastery actually accounts for a much smaller amount of damage than u probably believe.

And why, why would you assume I'm talking about using fists on regular mobs when i say "5 aps archer", no. that's **** and inefficient. However, it doesn't slightly outdps bows on bosses, it is PERMASPARK 5 HITS A SECOND. If you can't look up the mathematical facts as to why the dps is noticeably higher, try to at least use basic logic.

At this point I am wondering why I am arguing with you, because the simple statement "you have no aps" can probably discredit anything you have ever said on this forum through it's blunt asininity. Same goes for the person who came to the conclusion that you were a horrible DD for being sage( would prolly be better if demon, ijs), and then again back to you for using stormrage(unless it was meant as a joke).

And buddy, ofc you don't need to be 5 aps to be in squads, but if one makes most of their cash spamming tt's/nirvanas/etc, then it is a wise investment to make. And if you aren't up for making an entire new character, and pumping all your precious cash into it just to send it back to the first one who could do the job competently enough if you were to just gear it up in the first place instead of making a second char,......*deep breath* then a 5 aps archer, (who doesn't use fists when inappropriate like some dip****) is an efficient char to farm with.

Vindis - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yes, sins and aps have a higher dps than bow archers/wizards/psys BUT this in no way negates the DDing power of caster types. Pve is painfully easy, and sure random fails that cashshopped to 5aps wont invite you to a nirvy, but any respectable player will. (idk why you ever would spend so much, pve is too easy to need 5aps; pvp needs more defenses lol something HA99 orns wont give you). Lols with the extent of some bms/sins skills in pve Ive started to taking psys and venos instead. Sure there is the rare really good sin, but I have yet to meet a bm that impresses me with skill usage (aside from one poorly geared sage bm in FC long ago)

Also, I know wizard well since I used to have one on HL and I have squadded my brother's wizard for 100 levels. We keep similarly refined gear. He can tank better than me, he has 300ish more p defense and 3x my elemental defense self buffed. Same refines +4/+5 same shards garnets/cits. Difference is Stone Barrier which wizards pwn with. Sure, I get aggro alot easier but that just means I have to manage it more. Do I want to take aggro from the demon sin/bm or barb? Not really but my crit rate/dph will generally do so at some point.

Idk perhaps its just my bias being that there are so few wizards and they tend to be pretty decent players compared to the amount of fails the archer class produces (could be slight bias towards my brother and other famed DW wizards though). If you compare the archer fail ratio to any other class its got to be top 5 if not top 3 ijs. Aps and demon spark deicides doesnt impress me random demon archer. When my barb hits 100, best believe archers will be rare in my squads if they wont use a bow lol. Sage pure dex DD seems pretty superior to Demon fist build (140ish str which so many DW archers have for some terrible reason).

btw I love my archer and wouldnt trade it for another class (cept maybe a wiz if my bro didnt main one) but I really hate fist archers and aps craze. Does 5.0 on your archer make you the best melee DD available? No. 2nd best? No. Bow does nearly as much and more in shorter fights i.e. mobs and pvp (dead before melee range) because bosses are trash lol. Also, wizzies get alot of flak they dont deserve. They are amazing b:victory


tl;dr Fist archer for the fail. Its the equivalent of LA Wizzys. Everyone thinks its a good idea, but its really not. Want LA? roll a sin/archer. Want fists? BM lols. Want dps? Sin sin sin.

No class is outdated. No class is useless. Especially in TW.

Holy ****ing ****.

StormHydra - Sanctuary

Vindis - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Fists on an archer doesnt make much logical sense in the fact that if you were so concerned with trying to cut costs you would have just rerolled a sin anyways. Sins can use half of your gear via account stash and are the highest dps class and best for farming. Its not like bows dont DD hard. They were used before the aps craze if Im not mistaken. DPS really matters very little end game unless you are so concerned with farming (I would rather farm IRL tyvm ) If DPS is so important roll a fish or make an LA BM that wears your archer gear as a farming alt.

Cutting costs isnt really justified by getting 2 sets of gear. Str rings/LG cape or I could just save 30mil on the LG cape and get Cloudcharger instead and aim towards a P def neck. You know, things that are actually useful in pvp. Or I could put on some +dex/+p atk rings and get even more dph (I prefer accuracy rings). PvE is still so easy Im not sure why people try 5.0 on an archer. Sure its cheaper than BM. Sure its faster than a bow (marginally and for bosses only; the extra aps above my 2.5 doesn't justify my loss in bow damage or the expenses I would pay, perhaps in the long run, but I'm satisfied as is).

Also, demons really tend to devalue Sage spark. 25% reduction to damage taken and extra chi gaining skills arent meant to be taken lightly(I will have cloud eruption soon too mind you). Have you tanked every boss from 89 down? Mostly because nothing else keeps aggro from you. This includes Pole/Nob and some SoT bosses. Also Sage BoA is pretty nice for solo farming too (Yes, I have it).

Nay, never did I dismiss "so much crit/burst damage potential". I've always said go Demon for dps, but a sage has its benefits too. Its undeniable that QS/STA/Stun are great demon. However, if you fail to see the benefit of a longer stun or 600+ more p atk (which becomes more if Im pure and the Demon is fist build) per arrow then you do not realize that can mean the difference between 1-2 shotting a caster or having them hit back and kill you. 33% crit rate is still pretty nice ijs.

And correct me if Im wrong but a sage builds for defense whereas a demon builds for dps. Im afraid (at least in my view) full garnets (cant afford JoSD/Vit stones atm), a phys cube neck, Wings of Cloudcharger and a warsong ele belt outweigh any other possible ornament combination you could show me bar r9 with similar shards/neck/cape. Refines give enough hp.

And if you truly don't believe Sage archers can DD well, I steal aggro from many things without trying. Demon sparked 2.86 BMs, Barbs, r9+12 Wizards, Hercs and anything else that isnt 3.33 or higher. Under the right conditions Ive hit for a surplus of 145k. I even take from similarly geared sins half the time. Would I want the aps I get from demon spark? Probably not no because I would die much more often. The one time I would value fists for an archer would be to tank melee range bosses so I don't do half damage and the other DDs can go all out, but even then I would rather use my barb or have someone else tank it. Sage and Demon is a different mindset and not really relevant in this thread. Regardless, Demon has more dps (on every class) and sage is more defensive/chi oriented.

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

That's an opinion, you need to state less opinions and state more facts. Taking off 1/6 of the boss' HP on the first hit is not wasting damage while clawing the boss for a proc is, which is the other difference between the debuffs from STA and Deicides. An archer is no more replaceable than the BM and especially the veno because any three can be replaced by an alt slave. The BM does NOT output much more damage than the archer as shown by the two links posted by Vindis and considering the fact that BMs can no longer CC. Only class that is really much better is sin, and not rolling sin is simply a preference for some people, or perhaps because people don't want to spend another ~100 gold on sin's R8.



You claim that claw users only shorten a fight by 20-30s, which is why I brought up the speculation that you've probably never done any WB or serious endgame instance. Not really fluff because I was just pointing out how ignorant you are of how much more damage output permasparkers are capable of in those posts. You admitted that you were exaggerating which if you were not, would not have led to me bringing up the argument in the first place, so now you just look like you're desperately trying to preserve your E-pride.



Still don't get the joke? It's OK. Now you're just raving.



You seemed to have missed my argument that claw archers are the cheapest permasparkers of all the classes for a player who started out as archer. No where did I say that claw archers are irreplaceable, I just said that they're cheap. That means the extra money that would have otherwise been spent on making permasparkers of other classes can easily be used to fund a better bow, with the possibility of generating more income by farming at higher speeds offered by being able to permaspark. That is the whole point of having claws to farm in the first place. It's not about being the best in PvE.

Vindis - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This argument comes from the Claw is more dps than a bow argument. If claws are more dps why not pick a class that actually has claw mastery and a useful buff or a sin (admit it WoP <<<<<<<<<<<< Bell/BP). I literally don't care about dps in the slightest, I do look at squad dynamics. Overkill isn't necessary, its why I main a sage pure bow archer rofl. I play an archer because the vast majority of them can't competently do their job in squads (Making sure no one ever gets hit except for bosses/pulls and stunlock; not just dps). Things are gonna die no matter what even in a squad with just me and a wizzy as the only "Real" DDs. I can bring an extra cleric to DD and throw TS, or a Psy could benefit from Undine. Theres really so many different ways to create alot of damage. Not just claws. Hell, in a zhen type scenario or Delta a pure bow archer has superior aoe dps. Last I checked, archers are indeed primarily wanted for aoe, much like wizards.
(inb4demonboa;purebowdemonstillhasmoredpsthanclawdemonandsageboastillhasmoresurvivablity).




I can one shot r8+5 9khp BMs with TS. I can 2 shot nearly everything else similarly geared be it HA/LA or AA. I can probably 3-4 shot an 11k hp +10 Demon archer and never get hit since I have a 2 meter deadzone advantage that so many demons neglect (Its called aim low and stepping back lol). See how it doesn't matter that my gear (r8+5) is not that good? If it lets me solo a major threat like a r9 Archer (which Ive done) or stunlock a r9 psy (which Ive also done) then it is certainly enough for me.

And I believe I stated my dislike for melee based classes previously. I play casters and I chose archer for its primary advantage, ranged dph. Idk about you but I dps as a sage with a bow quite fine, especially since no one else I've ever met in game bothers with Frenzy, people really underestimate 20 attack levels, I can't imagine that on a full r9+12 Archer lol though that does bring up something...

If anyone would be bored enough to figure it out, since its established that Demon bow dps is more due to QS/STA/Stun procs what would a r9+12 sage's dps with Nebulous Shooter look like next to a +12 Deicide archer (give them both r9 armors too idc or not if deicides still needs aps gears for 5.0; feel free to do the claw archer demon and sage if it so pleases you)? Remember not to look at just dps since people forget defenses are important as well (Archer is probably the squishiest class until overpowered gears (Wiz have SB, Clerics Plume Shell, Veno Fox form, Sins Deaden/Evasion/Focused Mind; Mystic might be squishier, still rare in my level range)


@Quilue: 3-x doesn't even need an aps user to be successfully DD'd. Example of my last faction run through 3-2: Archer, Seeker, Barb, Veno, Cleric. A Pure bow archer is capable of being the highest DD in the squad in any instance and success is still guaranteed if the squad knows what its doing. And don't even try to say something about the squad not knowing what its doing, if you can't fill a squad with 3-4 from faction or FL by 100 then you are doing it wrong. Also, perhaps Kiyoshi should comment on some of these posts. He does seem to be the one that makes the most sense here (sees the benefits of being sage and pure bow).


@Kiyoshi: Fleuri's comment about Wizards hitting 200-400k in a single cast happens pretty much every spark/HF since rank gives a relatively nice crit rate (remember low level archer crit rates? Good times). Given that archers DD more when its not a 1-2 shot kind of mob/player, but Wizzies DD hard as well and Sage Spark+CE+Sutra only helps their dps compared to other casters. Not to mention they also improve psy and archer dps with Undine. Also, nice job with the pure bow sage thing. b:victory


@Fleuri: Unrelated, but I tried out your Vicious arrow manaburn strategy in duels/TW and it pretty much shuts down non mp charmed BMs/Barbs and slows their reaction time often resulting in an easy kill (seems most people keep a mental track of how much mp they have left before they need to pot and watching a barb attempt to turtle or BM try to stunlock without mp is one of the funniest things). It's probably not practical in the long term as a strategy, but a random wood arrow on an HA thats in combat can contribute to its demise (Ex: Wood Arrow/TS Barb/BM--> Kill Robes). And its probably about the 2nd or 3rd funniest thing you can do as a sage archer aside from Stun-->Full charge Take Aim one shots and EAing sins/clawchers to the dungeon entrance in SoT. b:chuckle

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Kerona - Sanctuary

Never underestimate Archer's ability to proselytize.

_blood_rain - Sanctuary

Apparently, most archers like to write almost as much as they like math. Which is why we should be at page 29 by now

StormHydra - Sanctuary

THIS IS WHY ARCHERS ARE OUTDATED

I have had enough of The archer class! PWI is barking up the wrong tree, and will end up being crushed by it when it falls back upon them. The nub of what I intend to say here is that the justification PWE gave for allowing federally funded research to mushroom into a hypersensitive, grossly inefficient system, hampered by unenlightened, deluded criminal masterminds and the worst classes of churlish four-flushers there are was one of the most noisome justifications I've ever heard. It was so noisome, in fact, that I will not repeat it here. Even without hearing the details you can still see my point quite clearly: From secret-handshake societies meeting at "the usual place" to back-door admissions committees, The archer class's PWIers in charge have always found a way to exploit public sympathy in order to bolster support for The archer class's distasteful imprecations. If you want a better opportunity to get a job, raise a family in a safe neighborhood, have a better chance at a good education, and lower the taxes on the money you earn, then I ask that you help me champion the poor and oppressed against the evil of The archer class. As one commentator put it, if I wanted to brainwash and manipulate a large segment of the population, I would convince them that the cure for evil is more evil. In fact, that's exactly what PWI does as part of his quest to persuade many of his critics to enter into a one-way "dialogue" with him. Maybe it's just me, but don't you think that his accusations are based on some deep-rooted personality disorder? Faddism has long been his lodestar, and I'm not making that up! Assume for a moment that PWI has an oversized ego that is second to none. It therefore follows that The archer class must have some sort of problem with PWI's balance. That's the only explanation I can come up with as to why PWI accuses me of admitting that a plausible excuse is a satisfactory substitute for performance. What I actually said is that I don't expect everyone to agree with me. The mere mention of that fact guarantees that this letter will never get published in any mass-circulation periodical that The archer class has any control over. But that's inconsequential because this is not a question of totalitarianism or teetotalism. Rather, it is a question about how I was entirely gobsmacked the first time I saw The archer class tearing down all theoretical frameworks for addressing the issue. Since then, I've seen him do that so many times that I hardly bat an eyelid when someone tells me that The archer class believes that he has achieved sainthood. Sorry, but I have to call foul on that one. The archer class seems to assume that McCarthyism and absenteeism are identical concepts. This is an assumption of the worst kind because if there's an untold story here, it's that many people have witnessed him terrorize our youngsters. The archer class generally insists that his witnesses are mistaken and blames his nit-picky initiatives on jaundiced, uncompromising psychics. It's like he has no-fault insurance against personal responsibility. What's more, if they could speak, the birds, snakes, and other creatures who are our Earth brothers and Earth sisters would undeniably say that we ought to promote peace, prosperity, and quality of life, both here and abroad. That'll make PWI think once. I would have said "twice" but I don't see any indication that he has previously given any thought to the matter before trying to establish tacit boundaries and ground rules for the permissible spectrum of opinion. I have no problem with the manifestly obvious statement that The archer class hopes to finance a propaganda of intensive deception that induces sane and sober people to empty garbage pails full of the vilest slanders and defamations on the clean garments of honorable people. I have no problem with the idea that I really disagree with his fickle endeavors. And I have no problem with the special privileges occasionally granted to sophomoric, disagreeable mafia dons. What I do have a problem with are his lawless, morally crippled insinuations. The main dissensus between me and The archer class is that I allege that The archer class lusts for a world in which dour turncoats stonewall on issues in which taxpayers see a vital public interest. He, on the other hand, contends that the existence and perpetuation of antidisestablishmentarianism is its own moral justification. You may find it instructive to contrast the things I like with the things that he likes. I like listening to music. The archer class likes guaranteeing the destruction of anything that looks like a vital community. I like kittens and puppies. PWI likes reaping a whirlwind of destroyed marriages, damaged children, and, quite possibly, a globe-wide expression of incurable sexually transmitted diseases. I like spending time with friends. PWI likes threatening anyone who's bold enough to state that he wants me to stop trying to protect our peace, privacy, and safety. Instead, he'd rather I hang myself by the neck until dead. Sorry, but I don't accept defeat that easily. According to PWI, most people believe that human beings should be appraised by the number of things and the amount of money they possess instead of by their internal value and achievements. Really? Does PWI have some sort of mind-reading ability or did he get his information from a less reliable source? PWI doesn't want you to know the answer to that question; he wants to ensure you don't stand together and stand by our principles and be true to them on all occasions, in all places, against all foes, and at whatever cost. When I first heard about his intimations, I didn't know whether to laugh, because his remarks are so corrupt, or cry, because there's a lot of daylight between his views and mine. PWI believes that a book of his writings would be a good addition to the Bible while I warrant that his cringers are quick to point out that because he is hated, persecuted, and repeatedly laughed at, Archer is the real victim here. The truth is that, if anything, Archer is a victim of his own success a success that enables PWI to boss others around. He will do everything in his power to legitimate irresponsibility, laziness, and infidelity. No wonder corruption is endemic to our society; The archer class has a driving need to shrink the so-called marketplace of ideas down to convenience-store size. I'll say that again because I want it to sink in: Whenever I hear someone say that he's a moral exemplar, my upper lip develops an involuntary curl. The archer class wants us to feel sorry for the hotheaded misfits who judge people based solely on hearsay. I profess we should instead feel sorry for their victims, all of whom know full well that if The archer class's ****-and-bull stories were intended as a joke, The archer class forgot to include the punchline. I guess that my take on this is that unless we acquire the input of a representative cross-section of the community in a non-threatening, inclusive environment, no real changes will ever occur. Do I blame society for this? No, I blame The archer class. I'm not a psychiatrist. Sometimes, though, I wish I were, so that I could better understand what makes people like The archer class want to "solve" all our problems by talking them to death. People have pointed out to me that his stooges compress his ethics into brief, highly reductive, definitive-sounding phrases, easily memorized and easily expressed, but I still can't help but think that everyone ought to read my award-winning essay, "The Naked Aggression of The archer class". In it, I chronicle all of The archer class's schemes from the uppity to the ***-crazed and conclude that I never used to be particularly concerned about The archer class's goals. Any ****ed fool, or so I thought, could see that we need to look beyond the most immediate and visible problems with The archer class. We need to look at what is behind these problems and understand that The archer class claims to have turned over a new leaf shortly after getting caught trying to convict me without trial, jury, or reading one complete paragraph of this letter. This claim is an outright lie that is still being circulated by The archer class's accomplices. The truth is that The archer class's mind has limited horizons. It is confined to the immediate and simplistic, with the inevitable consequence that everything is made banal and basic and is then leveled down until it is deprived of all spiritual life. I could tell The archer class that the fallout from his indelicate prophecies has been an increasingly predatory environment of calculation, scheming, and pandering that will, by virtue of its omnipresence, herald the death of intelligent discourse on college campuses, although he obviously doesn't care. I could tell The archer class that nothing can quench The archer class's insatiable thirst for power, but he wouldn't believe me. The archer class probably also doesn't care that The archer class's heartless, longiloquent subliminal psywar campaigns are causing colonialism to spiral out of control in our society. So let me appeal to whatever small semblance of reason The archer class may be capable of when I tell him that I am deliberately using colorful language in this letter. I am deliberately using provocative phrases that I hope will stick in the minds of my readers. I do ensure, however, that my words are always appropriate and accurate and clearly explain how The archer class says that we should avoid personal responsibility. But then he turns around and says that the rest of us are an inferior group of people, fit only to be enslaved, beaten, and butchered at the whim of our betters. You know, you can't have it both ways, The archer class. In its annual report on witless incidents, the government concluded that the tone of The archer class's metanarratives is eerily reminiscent of that of yawping manipulative-types of the late 1940s in the sense that in a rather infamous speech, The archer class exclaimed that once he has approved of something it can't possibly be Pecksniffian. (I edited out the rest of what he said because, well, it didn't really say anything.) Given his propensity for repression in the service of paradigmatic integrity, it is little wonder that for those of us who make our living trying to find the inner strength to pave the way for people of every ***, race, and socioeconomic status to fulfill their own spiritual destiny, it is important to consider that The archer class is more than merely contumelious. He's uber-contumelious. In fact, The archer class is so contumelious that it's our responsibility to pronounce an enlightened and just judgment upon him. That's the first step in trying to analyze his ideals in the manner of sociological studies of mass communication and persuasion, and it's the only way to call people to their highest and best, not accommodate them at their lowest and least. The archer class's associates perpetrate all kinds of atrocities while alleging that they are simply not capable of such activities and that therefore, the atrocities must be the product of my and your feverish and overworked imaginations. Although I've been called every name in the book for saying this, I strive to be consistent in my arguments. I can't say that I'm 100% true to this, but The archer class's frequent vacillating leads me to believe that he's trapped in a vicious cycle. The more opposition to his excuses he faces, the more censorious he becomes. The more censorious he becomes, the more opposition to his excuses he faces. In closing, we must do everything in our power to challenge The archer class's rebarbative, crafty assumptions about merit. The fight must go on. The archer class's co-conspirators are too lazy to fight to the end for our ideas and ideals. They just want to sit back, fasten their mouths on the public teats, and casually forget that The archer class has repeatedly indicated a desire to reconstitute society on the basis of arrested development and envious malevolence. Is that the sound of rarefied respectability that The archer class's trucklers so frequently attribute to The archer class? The impractical blathering of a rebarbative parasite is more like it. In fact, our national media is controlled by brown-nosing ninnyhammers. That's why you probably haven't heard that if I chose to do so I could write exclusively about The archer class's delusional casus belli and never be lacking for material. Nonetheless, I'd rather spend some time discussing how The archer class writes a lot of long statements that mean practically nothing. What's sneaky is that he constructs those statements in such a way that it never occurs to his readers to analyze them. Analysis would almost certainly indicate that The archer class thinks that his slimy imperium is a benign and charitable agency. Of course, thinking so doesn't make it so. The archer class wants to nail people to trees. Why he wants that, I don't know, but that's what he wants. He has spent untold hours trying to make our lives miserable. During that time, did it ever once occur to him that I indubitably seek nothing but justice? That happens to be a matter on which I do not care to venture either an opinion or a guess. I do, however, feel that I should state that this is not a question of barbarism or diabolism. Rather, it is a question about how The archer class may be reasonably cunning with words. However, he is entirely irrational with everything else. The archer class is trapped in a vicious cycle. The more opposition to his epithets he faces, the more ribald he becomes. The more ribald he becomes, the more opposition to his epithets he faces. Do not let inflammatory rhetoric and misleading and inaccurate statements decide your position on this issue. The archer class's maneuvers are not the solution to our problem. They are the problem. The archer class avers that anyone who disagrees with him is ultimately jejune. As you can no doubt determine from comments like that, facts and The archer class are like oil and water. He's a chauvinistic liar. Let's list some of his more unconscionable lies: First, The archer class claims that we have no reason to be fearful about the criminally violent trends in our society today and over the past ten to fifteen years. Second, he insists that black is white and night is day. And third, he wants us to believe that phallocentrism is a noble goal. I presented that list to get you to see that The archer class dreams of a time when he'll be free to install a puppet government that pledges allegiance to his unprincipled terrorist organization. That's the way he's planned it, and that's the way it'll happen not may happen but will happen if we don't interfere, if we don't refute his arguments line-by-line and claim-by-claim. Now, it is not my purpose to suggest that The archer class expects people to bow and scrape before him but rather to embark on a new path towards change. Even without the demonic ideology of vigilantism in the picture, we can still say that he has been trying hard to protect what has become a lucrative racket for him. Unfortunately, that lucrative racket has a hard-to-overlook consequence: it will use cheap, intemperate propaganda to arouse the passions of unrestrained purveyors of malice and hatred sooner or later. The archer class always cavils at my attempts to convert retreat into advance. That's probably because The archer class has got to go and yesterday isn't soon enough. Mutual efforts against crabby factionalism are not just an educational process designed to teach people that what we need from him is fewer monologues and more dialogue. These efforts also serve as a beacon, warning the world of the immature consequences of his petty self-fulfilling prophecies. Irrespective of one's feelings on the subject, The archer class is careless with data, makes all sorts of causal interpretations of things without any real justification, has a way of combining disparate ideas that don't seem to hang together, seems to show a sort of pride in his own biases, gets into all sorts of amateurish speculation, and then makes no effort to test out his speculations and that's just the short list! Just the other day, some of his purblind grunts forced a prospectus into my hands as I walked past. The prospectus described The archer class's blueprint for a world in which materialistic, oligophrenic autocrats are free to equip the most insane psychics you'll ever see with flame throwers, hand grenades, and heat-seeking missiles. As I dropped the prospectus onto an overflowing wastebasket I reflected upon the way that the pen is a powerful tool. Why don't we use that tool to oppose evil wherever it rears its imperious head? So, what's my take on The archer class's officious attitudes? Simply this: A certain curtailment of the right to political opposition is an unavoidable concomitant of his dysfunctional taradiddles. But that's not all: Prudence is no vice. I have some very startling, very radical some might say despicable insights into PWI's latest pranks. First off, you won't find many of PWI's secret agents who will openly admit that they favor PWI's schemes to scupper my initiative to shield people from his squalid and cankered deceptions. In fact, their ploys are characterized by a plethora of rhetoric to the contrary. If you listen closely, though, you'll hear how carefully they cover up the fact that funding a vast web of lackluster ornery-types, querulous urban guerrillas, and disaffected ex-cons is considered de rigueur by PWI's club. Get that straight, please. Any other thinking is blame-shoving or responsibility-dodging. Furthermore, PWI says that he is the one who will lead us to our great shining future. Whenever I hear such statements from PWI I reel in disbelief. Does he really believe such self-deceiving things? Well, I'm sure PWI would rather separate people from their roots and cut their bonds to their natural communities than answer that particular question. The concepts underlying PWI's aberrant, blinkered shell games are like the Ptolemaic astronomy, which could not have been saved by positing more epicycles or eliminating some of the more glaring discrepancies. The fundamental idea that the heavens revolve around the Earth was wrong, just as PWI's idea that he acts in the public interest is wrong. Although this has been overlooked or ignored by the established scientific community, professional outrage artists are always boasting that PWI's chauvinism movement is looking out for our interests. End of story. Actually, I should add that he rewards those who show scrupulous adherence to his worldview and punishes those who arraign him at the tribunal of public opinion. Let me express that same thought in slightly different terms: PWI plans to treat people like obstreperous mobocrats. What can you do about that? Start by reading about how like most people that have a shallow agenda to advocate, PWI wants to progressively enlarge and increasingly centralize the means of oppression, exploitation, violence, and destruction. Become informed about the deceit, lies, and propaganda surrounding PWI's promotion of ageism. Tell everyone you know that he had promised us liberty, equality, and fraternity. Instead, PWI gave us expansionism, poststructuralism, and praetorianism. I suppose we should have seen that coming, especially since I feel that writing this letter is like celestial navigation. Before directional instruments were invented, sailors navigated the seas by fixing their compass on the North Star. However, if PWI were to trick them into fixing their compass on the wrong star they'd soon be so off-course that they'd actually be willing to help him move increasingly towards the establishment of a totalitarian Earth. Make no mistake about it; PWI's peons like to say, "The few of us who complain regularly about PWI's ideals are simply spoiling the party." Such frothy eloquence neither convinces nor satisfies me. If someone wants me to believe something shambolic like that, that person will have to show me some concrete evidence. Meanwhile, I intend to show you that PWI has been trying for some time to convince people that freedom must be abolished in order for people to be more secure and comfortable. Don't believe his hype! PWI has just been offering that line as a means to make excessive use of foul language. I admit I have a tendency to become a bit insensitive whenever I rebuke PWI for trying to ridicule the accomplishments of generations of great men and women. While I am desirous of mending this tiny personality flaw, if you were to try to tell PWI's shock troops that whenever a will-o'-the-wisp of materialism, however unreal, turns up anywhere, he is off at a trot, they'd close their eyes and put their hands over their ears. They are, as the psychologists say, in denial. They don't want to hear that PWI's expositors don't worry me because they're generally not in positions to make significant decisions (except maybe "right shoe on right foot"). That should serve as the final, ultimate, irrefutable proof that his maneuvers represent not only a denial of reality, but also an especially shabby sort of spiritual poison that will paralyze any serious or firm decision and thereby become responsible for the weak and half-hearted execution of even the most necessary measures quicker than you can double-check the spelling of "electroencephalographic". Regular readers of my letters probably take that for granted, but if I am to allay the concerns of the many people who have been harmed by him, I must explain to the population at large that the most inconsiderate shirkers I've ever seen commonly succumb to his distortions, deceptions, and delusions. I do not. Rather, I take pride in carrying out this matter to the full extent of the law. PWI apparently believes that he is the way, the truth, and the light. You and I know better than that. You and I know that PWI has been trying to convince us that he has his moral compass in tact. That argument fails to take into account the reality that I have reason to believe that PWI is about to trivialize certain events that are particularly special to us all. I pray that I'm wrong, of course, because the outcome could be devastating. Nevertheless, the indications are there that one of PWI's favorite tricks is to create a problem and then to offer the solution. Naturally, it's always his solutions that grant him the freedom to create catchy, new terms for boring, old issues, never the original problem. In closing, please remember that my ultimate goal is to knock some sense into PWI. If I advance, follow me. If I stop, urge me on. If I retreat, kill me. Cowardice especially his covinous form of it is. Why is The archer class increasing subservience to his monolithic engine of ethnocentrism? He says he's doing it for some worthy cause. In reality, The archer class is doing it because when it comes to his effusions, I indeed assert that we have drifted along for too long in a state of blissful denial and outright complacency. It's time to stand together and denounce The archer class's views. The sooner we do that the better because the justification he gave for focusing too much on one side of the equation and not enough on the broader perspective of things was one of the most pigheaded justifications I've ever heard. Way to go, PWI. It was so pigheaded, in fact, that I will not repeat it here. Even without hearing the details you can still see my point quite clearly: I have observed that those who disagree with me on the next point tend to be unsophisticated and those who recognize the validity of the point to be more educated. The point is that I like to say that larcenous elitism is PWI's preferred quick-fix solution to complex cultural problems. He never directly acknowledges such truisms but instead tries to turn them around to make it sound like I'm saying that pharisaism is a be-all, end-all system that should be forcefully imposed upon us. I guess that version better fits PWI's style or should I say, "agenda"? All will be cleared by the time of PWI's ill-advised decision.

Anfisa - Lost City

StormHydra - Sanctuary wrote: »

Bunch of text no one will read

This is just a copy paste of your sin bs thread

StormHydra - Sanctuary

Anfisa - Lost City wrote: »

This is just a copy paste of your sin bs thread

So you actually read it?

Anfisa - Lost City

StormHydra - Sanctuary wrote: »

So you actually read it?

No. Replaced archer with sin, and compared the two strings.

_blood_rain - Sanctuary

StormHydra - Sanctuary wrote: »

THIS IS WHY ARCHERS ARE OUTDATED

I have had enough of The archer class! PWI is barking up the wrong tree, and will end up being crushed by it when it falls back upon them. The nub of what I intend to say here is that the justification PWE gave for allowing federally funded research to mushroom into a hypersensitive, grossly inefficient system, hampered by unenlightened, deluded criminal masterminds and the worst classes of churlish four-flushers there are was one of the most noisome justifications I've ever heard. It was so noisome, in fact, that I will not repeat it here. Even without hearing the details you can still see my point quite clearly: From secret-handshake societies meeting at "the usual place" to back-door admissions committees, The archer class's PWIers in charge have always found a way to exploit public sympathy in order to bolster support for The archer class's distasteful imprecations. If you want a better opportunity to get a job, raise a family in a safe neighborhood, have a better chance at a good education, and lower the taxes on the money you earn, then I ask that you help me champion the poor and oppressed against the evil of The archer class. As one commentator put it, if I wanted to brainwash and manipulate a large segment of the population, I would convince them that the cure for evil is more evil. In fact, that's exactly what PWI does as part of his quest to persuade many of his critics to enter into a one-way "dialogue" with him. Maybe it's just me, but don't you think that his accusations are based on some deep-rooted personality disorder? Faddism has long been his lodestar, and I'm not making that up! Assume for a moment that PWI has an oversized ego that is second to none. It therefore follows that The archer class must have some sort of problem with PWI's balance. That's the only explanation I can come up with as to why PWI accuses me of admitting that a plausible excuse is a satisfactory substitute for performance. What I actually said is that I don't expect everyone to agree with me. The mere mention of that fact guarantees that this letter will never get published in any mass-circulation periodical that The archer class has any control over. But that's inconsequential because this is not a question of totalitarianism or teetotalism. Rather, it is a question about how I was entirely gobsmacked the first time I saw The archer class tearing down all theoretical frameworks for addressing the issue. Since then, I've seen him do that so many times that I hardly bat an eyelid when someone tells me that The archer class believes that he has achieved sainthood. Sorry, but I have to call foul on that one. The archer class seems to assume that McCarthyism and absenteeism are identical concepts. This is an assumption of the worst kind because if there's an untold story here, it's that many people have witnessed him terrorize our youngsters. The archer class generally insists that his witnesses are mistaken and blames his nit-picky initiatives on jaundiced, uncompromising psychics. It's like he has no-fault insurance against personal responsibility. What's more, if they could speak, the birds, snakes, and other creatures who are our Earth brothers and Earth sisters would undeniably say that we ought to promote peace, prosperity, and quality of life, both here and abroad. That'll make PWI think once. I would have said "twice" but I don't see any indication that he has previously given any thought to the matter before trying to establish tacit boundaries and ground rules for the permissible spectrum of opinion. I have no problem with the manifestly obvious statement that The archer class hopes to finance a propaganda of intensive deception that induces sane and sober people to empty garbage pails full of the vilest slanders and defamations on the clean garments of honorable people. I have no problem with the idea that I really disagree with his fickle endeavors. And I have no problem with the special privileges occasionally granted to sophomoric, disagreeable mafia dons. What I do have a problem with are his lawless, morally crippled insinuations. The main dissensus between me and The archer class is that I allege that The archer class lusts for a world in which dour turncoats stonewall on issues in which taxpayers see a vital public interest. He, on the other hand, contends that the existence and perpetuation of antidisestablishmentarianism is its own moral justification. You may find it instructive to contrast the things I like with the things that he likes. I like listening to music. The archer class likes guaranteeing the destruction of anything that looks like a vital community. I like kittens and puppies. PWI likes reaping a whirlwind of destroyed marriages, damaged children, and, quite possibly, a globe-wide expression of incurable sexually transmitted diseases. I like spending time with friends. PWI likes threatening anyone who's bold enough to state that he wants me to stop trying to protect our peace, privacy, and safety. Instead, he'd rather I hang myself by the neck until dead. Sorry, but I don't accept defeat that easily. According to PWI, most people believe that human beings should be appraised by the number of things and the amount of money they possess instead of by their internal value and achievements. Really? Does PWI have some sort of mind-reading ability or did he get his information from a less reliable source? PWI doesn't want you to know the answer to that question; he wants to ensure you don't stand together and stand by our principles and be true to them on all occasions, in all places, against all foes, and at whatever cost. When I first heard about his intimations, I didn't know whether to laugh, because his remarks are so corrupt, or cry, because there's a lot of daylight between his views and mine. PWI believes that a book of his writings would be a good addition to the Bible while I warrant that his cringers are quick to point out that because he is hated, persecuted, and repeatedly laughed at, Archer is the real victim here. The truth is that, if anything, Archer is a victim of his own success a success that enables PWI to boss others around. He will do everything in his power to legitimate irresponsibility, laziness, and infidelity. No wonder corruption is endemic to our society; The archer class has a driving need to shrink the so-called marketplace of ideas down to convenience-store size. I'll say that again because I want it to sink in: Whenever I hear someone say that he's a moral exemplar, my upper lip develops an involuntary curl. The archer class wants us to feel sorry for the hotheaded misfits who judge people based solely on hearsay. I profess we should instead feel sorry for their victims, all of whom know full well that if The archer class's ****-and-bull stories were intended as a joke, The archer class forgot to include the punchline. I guess that my take on this is that unless we acquire the input of a representative cross-section of the community in a non-threatening, inclusive environment, no real changes will ever occur. Do I blame society for this? No, I blame The archer class. I'm not a psychiatrist. Sometimes, though, I wish I were, so that I could better understand what makes people like The archer class want to "solve" all our problems by talking them to death. People have pointed out to me that his stooges compress his ethics into brief, highly reductive, definitive-sounding phrases, easily memorized and easily expressed, but I still can't help but think that everyone ought to read my award-winning essay, "The Naked Aggression of The archer class". In it, I chronicle all of The archer class's schemes from the uppity to the ***-crazed and conclude that I never used to be particularly concerned about The archer class's goals. Any ****ed fool, or so I thought, could see that we need to look beyond the most immediate and visible problems with The archer class. We need to look at what is behind these problems and understand that The archer class claims to have turned over a new leaf shortly after getting caught trying to convict me without trial, jury, or reading one complete paragraph of this letter. This claim is an outright lie that is still being circulated by The archer class's accomplices. The truth is that The archer class's mind has limited horizons. It is confined to the immediate and simplistic, with the inevitable consequence that everything is made banal and basic and is then leveled down until it is deprived of all spiritual life. I could tell The archer class that the fallout from his indelicate prophecies has been an increasingly predatory environment of calculation, scheming, and pandering that will, by virtue of its omnipresence, herald the death of intelligent discourse on college campuses, although he obviously doesn't care. I could tell The archer class that nothing can quench The archer class's insatiable thirst for power, but he wouldn't believe me. The archer class probably also doesn't care that The archer class's heartless, longiloquent subliminal psywar campaigns are causing colonialism to spiral out of control in our society. So let me appeal to whatever small semblance of reason The archer class may be capable of when I tell him that I am deliberately using colorful language in this letter. I am deliberately using provocative phrases that I hope will stick in the minds of my readers. I do ensure, however, that my words are always appropriate and accurate and clearly explain how The archer class says that we should avoid personal responsibility. But then he turns around and says that the rest of us are an inferior group of people, fit only to be enslaved, beaten, and butchered at the whim of our betters. You know, you can't have it both ways, The archer class. In its annual report on witless incidents, the government concluded that the tone of The archer class's metanarratives is eerily reminiscent of that of yawping manipulative-types of the late 1940s in the sense that in a rather infamous speech, The archer class exclaimed that once he has approved of something it can't possibly be Pecksniffian. (I edited out the rest of what he said because, well, it didn't really say anything.) Given his propensity for repression in the service of paradigmatic integrity, it is little wonder that for those of us who make our living trying to find the inner strength to pave the way for people of every ***, race, and socioeconomic status to fulfill their own spiritual destiny, it is important to consider that The archer class is more than merely contumelious. He's uber-contumelious. In fact, The archer class is so contumelious that it's our responsibility to pronounce an enlightened and just judgment upon him. That's the first step in trying to analyze his ideals in the manner of sociological studies of mass communication and persuasion, and it's the only way to call people to their highest and best, not accommodate them at their lowest and least. The archer class's associates perpetrate all kinds of atrocities while alleging that they are simply not capable of such activities and that therefore, the atrocities must be the product of my and your feverish and overworked imaginations. Although I've been called every name in the book for saying this, I strive to be consistent in my arguments. I can't say that I'm 100% true to this, but The archer class's frequent vacillating leads me to believe that he's trapped in a vicious cycle. The more opposition to his excuses he faces, the more censorious he becomes. The more censorious he becomes, the more opposition to his excuses he faces. In closing, we must do everything in our power to challenge The archer class's rebarbative, crafty assumptions about merit. The fight must go on. The archer class's co-conspirators are too lazy to fight to the end for our ideas and ideals. They just want to sit back, fasten their mouths on the public teats, and casually forget that The archer class has repeatedly indicated a desire to reconstitute society on the basis of arrested development and envious malevolence. Is that the sound of rarefied respectability that The archer class's trucklers so frequently attribute to The archer class? The impractical blathering of a rebarbative parasite is more like it. In fact, our national media is controlled by brown-nosing ninnyhammers. That's why you probably haven't heard that if I chose to do so I could write exclusively about The archer class's delusional casus belli and never be lacking for material. Nonetheless, I'd rather spend some time discussing how The archer class writes a lot of long statements that mean practically nothing. What's sneaky is that he constructs those statements in such a way that it never occurs to his readers to analyze them. Analysis would almost certainly indicate that The archer class thinks that his slimy imperium is a benign and charitable agency. Of course, thinking so doesn't make it so. The archer class wants to nail people to trees. Why he wants that, I don't know, but that's what he wants. He has spent untold hours trying to make our lives miserable. During that time, did it ever once occur to him that I indubitably seek nothing but justice? That happens to be a matter on which I do not care to venture either an opinion or a guess. I do, however, feel that I should state that this is not a question of barbarism or diabolism. Rather, it is a question about how The archer class may be reasonably cunning with words. However, he is entirely irrational with everything else. The archer class is trapped in a vicious cycle. The more opposition to his epithets he faces, the more ribald he becomes. The more ribald he becomes, the more opposition to his epithets he faces. Do not let inflammatory rhetoric and misleading and inaccurate statements decide your position on this issue. The archer class's maneuvers are not the solution to our problem. They are the problem. The archer class avers that anyone who disagrees with him is ultimately jejune. As you can no doubt determine from comments like that, facts and The archer class are like oil and water. He's a chauvinistic liar. Let's list some of his more unconscionable lies: First, The archer class claims that we have no reason to be fearful about the criminally violent trends in our society today and over the past ten to fifteen years. Second, he insists that black is white and night is day. And third, he wants us to believe that phallocentrism is a noble goal. I presented that list to get you to see that The archer class dreams of a time when he'll be free to install a puppet government that pledges allegiance to his unprincipled terrorist organization. That's the way he's planned it, and that's the way it'll happen not may happen but will happen if we don't interfere, if we don't refute his arguments line-by-line and claim-by-claim. Now, it is not my purpose to suggest that The archer class expects people to bow and scrape before him but rather to embark on a new path towards change. Even without the demonic ideology of vigilantism in the picture, we can still say that he has been trying hard to protect what has become a lucrative racket for him. Unfortunately, that lucrative racket has a hard-to-overlook consequence: it will use cheap, intemperate propaganda to arouse the passions of unrestrained purveyors of malice and hatred sooner or later. The archer class always cavils at my attempts to convert retreat into advance. That's probably because The archer class has got to go and yesterday isn't soon enough. Mutual efforts against crabby factionalism are not just an educational process designed to teach people that what we need from him is fewer monologues and more dialogue. These efforts also serve as a beacon, warning the world of the immature consequences of his petty self-fulfilling prophecies. Irrespective of one's feelings on the subject, The archer class is careless with data, makes all sorts of causal interpretations of things without any real justification, has a way of combining disparate ideas that don't seem to hang together, seems to show a sort of pride in his own biases, gets into all sorts of amateurish speculation, and then makes no effort to test out his speculations and that's just the short list! Just the other day, some of his purblind grunts forced a prospectus into my hands as I walked past. The prospectus described The archer class's blueprint for a world in which materialistic, oligophrenic autocrats are free to equip the most insane psychics you'll ever see with flame throwers, hand grenades, and heat-seeking missiles. As I dropped the prospectus onto an overflowing wastebasket I reflected upon the way that the pen is a powerful tool. Why don't we use that tool to oppose evil wherever it rears its imperious head? So, what's my take on The archer class's officious attitudes? Simply this: A certain curtailment of the right to political opposition is an unavoidable concomitant of his dysfunctional taradiddles. But that's not all: Prudence is no vice. I have some very startling, very radical some might say despicable insights into PWI's latest pranks. First off, you won't find many of PWI's secret agents who will openly admit that they favor PWI's schemes to scupper my initiative to shield people from his squalid and cankered deceptions. In fact, their ploys are characterized by a plethora of rhetoric to the contrary. If you listen closely, though, you'll hear how carefully they cover up the fact that funding a vast web of lackluster ornery-types, querulous urban guerrillas, and disaffected ex-cons is considered de rigueur by PWI's club. Get that straight, please. Any other thinking is blame-shoving or responsibility-dodging. Furthermore, PWI says that he is the one who will lead us to our great shining future. Whenever I hear such statements from PWI I reel in disbelief. Does he really believe such self-deceiving things? Well, I'm sure PWI would rather separate people from their roots and cut their bonds to their natural communities than answer that particular question. The concepts underlying PWI's aberrant, blinkered shell games are like the Ptolemaic astronomy, which could not have been saved by positing more epicycles or eliminating some of the more glaring discrepancies. The fundamental idea that the heavens revolve around the Earth was wrong, just as PWI's idea that he acts in the public interest is wrong. Although this has been overlooked or ignored by the established scientific community, professional outrage artists are always boasting that PWI's chauvinism movement is looking out for our interests. End of story. Actually, I should add that he rewards those who show scrupulous adherence to his worldview and punishes those who arraign him at the tribunal of public opinion. Let me express that same thought in slightly different terms: PWI plans to treat people like obstreperous mobocrats. What can you do about that? Start by reading about how like most people that have a shallow agenda to advocate, PWI wants to progressively enlarge and increasingly centralize the means of oppression, exploitation, violence, and destruction. Become informed about the deceit, lies, and propaganda surrounding PWI's promotion of ageism. Tell everyone you know that he had promised us liberty, equality, and fraternity. Instead, PWI gave us expansionism, poststructuralism, and praetorianism. I suppose we should have seen that coming, especially since I feel that writing this letter is like celestial navigation. Before directional instruments were invented, sailors navigated the seas by fixing their compass on the North Star. However, if PWI were to trick them into fixing their compass on the wrong star they'd soon be so off-course that they'd actually be willing to help him move increasingly towards the establishment of a totalitarian Earth. Make no mistake about it; PWI's peons like to say, "The few of us who complain regularly about PWI's ideals are simply spoiling the party." Such frothy eloquence neither convinces nor satisfies me. If someone wants me to believe something shambolic like that, that person will have to show me some concrete evidence. Meanwhile, I intend to show you that PWI has been trying for some time to convince people that freedom must be abolished in order for people to be more secure and comfortable. Don't believe his hype! PWI has just been offering that line as a means to make excessive use of foul language. I admit I have a tendency to become a bit insensitive whenever I rebuke PWI for trying to ridicule the accomplishments of generations of great men and women. While I am desirous of mending this tiny personality flaw, if you were to try to tell PWI's shock troops that whenever a will-o'-the-wisp of materialism, however unreal, turns up anywhere, he is off at a trot, they'd close their eyes and put their hands over their ears. They are, as the psychologists say, in denial. They don't want to hear that PWI's expositors don't worry me because they're generally not in positions to make significant decisions (except maybe "right shoe on right foot"). That should serve as the final, ultimate, irrefutable proof that his maneuvers represent not only a denial of reality, but also an especially shabby sort of spiritual poison that will paralyze any serious or firm decision and thereby become responsible for the weak and half-hearted execution of even the most necessary measures quicker than you can double-check the spelling of "electroencephalographic". Regular readers of my letters probably take that for granted, but if I am to allay the concerns of the many people who have been harmed by him, I must explain to the population at large that the most inconsiderate shirkers I've ever seen commonly succumb to his distortions, deceptions, and delusions. I do not. Rather, I take pride in carrying out this matter to the full extent of the law. PWI apparently believes that he is the way, the truth, and the light. You and I know better than that. You and I know that PWI has been trying to convince us that he has his moral compass in tact. That argument fails to take into account the reality that I have reason to believe that PWI is about to trivialize certain events that are particularly special to us all. I pray that I'm wrong, of course, because the outcome could be devastating. Nevertheless, the indications are there that one of PWI's favorite tricks is to create a problem and then to offer the solution. Naturally, it's always his solutions that grant him the freedom to create catchy, new terms for boring, old issues, never the original problem. In closing, please remember that my ultimate goal is to knock some sense into PWI. If I advance, follow me. If I stop, urge me on. If I retreat, kill me. Cowardice especially his covinous form of it is. Why is The archer class increasing subservience to his monolithic engine of ethnocentrism? He says he's doing it for some worthy cause. In reality, The archer class is doing it because when it comes to his effusions, I indeed assert that we have drifted along for too long in a state of blissful denial and outright complacency. It's time to stand together and denounce The archer class's views. The sooner we do that the better because the justification he gave for focusing too much on one side of the equation and not enough on the broader perspective of things was one of the most pigheaded justifications I've ever heard. Way to go, PWI. It was so pigheaded, in fact, that I will not repeat it here. Even without hearing the details you can still see my point quite clearly: I have observed that those who disagree with me on the next point tend to be unsophisticated and those who recognize the validity of the point to be more educated. The point is that I like to say that larcenous elitism is PWI's preferred quick-fix solution to complex cultural problems. He never directly acknowledges such truisms but instead tries to turn them around to make it sound like I'm saying that pharisaism is a be-all, end-all system that should be forcefully imposed upon us. I guess that version better fits PWI's style or should I say, "agenda"? All will be cleared by the time of PWI's ill-advised decision.

I can not read this

devotion

Would probably be best if you guys snipped the walls you are quoting.

_blood_rain - Sanctuary

devotion wrote: »

Would probably be best if you guys snipped the walls you are quoting.

We are mostly just quoting them to be annoying

Aesthor - Heavens Tear

StormHydra - Sanctuary wrote: »

THIS IS WHY ARCHERS ARE OUTDATED

I have had enough of The archer class! PWI is barking up the wrong tree, and will end up being crushed by it when it falls back upon them. The nub of what I intend to say here is that the justification PWE gave for allowing federally funded research to mushroom into a hypersensitive, grossly inefficient system, hampered by unenlightened, deluded criminal masterminds and the worst classes of churlish four-flushers there are was one of the most noisome justifications I've ever heard. It was so noisome, in fact, that I will not repeat it here. Even without hearing the details you can still see my point quite clearly: From secret-handshake societies meeting at "the usual place" to back-door admissions committees, The archer class's PWIers in charge have always found a way to exploit public sympathy in order to bolster support for The archer class's distasteful imprecations. If you want a better opportunity to get a job, raise a family in a safe neighborhood, have a better chance at a good education, and lower the taxes on the money you earn, then I ask that you help me champion the poor and oppressed against the evil of The archer class. As one commentator put it, if I wanted to brainwash and manipulate a large segment of the population, I would convince them that the cure for evil is more evil. In fact, that's exactly what PWI does as part of his quest to persuade many of his critics to enter into a one-way "dialogue" with him. Maybe it's just me, but don't you think that his accusations are based on some deep-rooted personality disorder? Faddism has long been his lodestar, and I'm not making that up! Assume for a moment that PWI has an oversized ego that is second to none. It therefore follows that The archer class must have some sort of problem with PWI's balance. That's the only explanation I can come up with as to why PWI accuses me of admitting that a plausible excuse is a satisfactory substitute for performance. What I actually said is that I don't expect everyone to agree with me. The mere mention of that fact guarantees that this letter will never get published in any mass-circulation periodical that The archer class has any control over. But that's inconsequential because this is not a question of totalitarianism or teetotalism. Rather, it is a question about how I was entirely gobsmacked the first time I saw The archer class tearing down all theoretical frameworks for addressing the issue. Since then, I've seen him do that so many times that I hardly bat an eyelid when someone tells me that The archer class believes that he has achieved sainthood. Sorry, but I have to call foul on that one. The archer class seems to assume that McCarthyism and absenteeism are identical concepts. This is an assumption of the worst kind because if there's an untold story here, it's that many people have witnessed him terrorize our youngsters. The archer class generally insists that his witnesses are mistaken and blames his nit-picky initiatives on jaundiced, uncompromising psychics. It's like he has no-fault insurance against personal responsibility. What's more, if they could speak, the birds, snakes, and other creatures who are our Earth brothers and Earth sisters would undeniably say that we ought to promote peace, prosperity, and quality of life, both here and abroad. That'll make PWI think once. I would have said "twice" but I don't see any indication that he has previously given any thought to the matter before trying to establish tacit boundaries and ground rules for the permissible spectrum of opinion. I have no problem with the manifestly obvious statement that The archer class hopes to finance a propaganda of intensive deception that induces sane and sober people to empty garbage pails full of the vilest slanders and defamations on the clean garments of honorable people. I have no problem with the idea that I really disagree with his fickle endeavors. And I have no problem with the special privileges occasionally granted to sophomoric, disagreeable mafia dons. What I do have a problem with are his lawless, morally crippled insinuations. The main dissensus between me and The archer class is that I allege that The archer class lusts for a world in which dour turncoats stonewall on issues in which taxpayers see a vital public interest. He, on the other hand, contends that the existence and perpetuation of antidisestablishmentarianism is its own moral justification. You may find it instructive to contrast the things I like with the things that he likes. I like listening to music. The archer class likes guaranteeing the destruction of anything that looks like a vital community. I like kittens and puppies. PWI likes reaping a whirlwind of destroyed marriages, damaged children, and, quite possibly, a globe-wide expression of incurable sexually transmitted diseases. I like spending time with friends. PWI likes threatening anyone who's bold enough to state that he wants me to stop trying to protect our peace, privacy, and safety. Instead, he'd rather I hang myself by the neck until dead. Sorry, but I don't accept defeat that easily. According to PWI, most people believe that human beings should be appraised by the number of things and the amount of money they possess instead of by their internal value and achievements. Really? Does PWI have some sort of mind-reading ability or did he get his information from a less reliable source? PWI doesn't want you to know the answer to that question; he wants to ensure you don't stand together and stand by our principles and be true to them on all occasions, in all places, against all foes, and at whatever cost. When I first heard about his intimations, I didn't know whether to laugh, because his remarks are so corrupt, or cry, because there's a lot of daylight between his views and mine. PWI believes that a book of his writings would be a good addition to the Bible while I warrant that his cringers are quick to point out that because he is hated, persecuted, and repeatedly laughed at, Archer is the real victim here. The truth is that, if anything, Archer is a victim of his own success a success that enables PWI to boss others around. He will do everything in his power to legitimate irresponsibility, laziness, and infidelity. No wonder corruption is endemic to our society; The archer class has a driving need to shrink the so-called marketplace of ideas down to convenience-store size. I'll say that again because I want it to sink in: Whenever I hear someone say that he's a moral exemplar, my upper lip develops an involuntary curl. The archer class wants us to feel sorry for the hotheaded misfits who judge people based solely on hearsay. I profess we should instead feel sorry for their victims, all of whom know full well that if The archer class's ****-and-bull stories were intended as a joke, The archer class forgot to include the punchline. I guess that my take on this is that unless we acquire the input of a representative cross-section of the community in a non-threatening, inclusive environment, no real changes will ever occur. Do I blame society for this? No, I blame The archer class. I'm not a psychiatrist. Sometimes, though, I wish I were, so that I could better understand what makes people like The archer class want to "solve" all our problems by talking them to death. People have pointed out to me that his stooges compress his ethics into brief, highly reductive, definitive-sounding phrases, easily memorized and easily expressed, but I still can't help but think that everyone ought to read my award-winning essay, "The Naked Aggression of The archer class". In it, I chronicle all of The archer class's schemes from the uppity to the ***-crazed and conclude that I never used to be particularly concerned about The archer class's goals. Any ****ed fool, or so I thought, could see that we need to look beyond the most immediate and visible problems with The archer class. We need to look at what is behind these problems and understand that The archer class claims to have turned over a new leaf shortly after getting caught trying to convict me without trial, jury, or reading one complete paragraph of this letter. This claim is an outright lie that is still being circulated by The archer class's accomplices. The truth is that The archer class's mind has limited horizons. It is confined to the immediate and simplistic, with the inevitable consequence that everything is made banal and basic and is then leveled down until it is deprived of all spiritual life. I could tell The archer class that the fallout from his indelicate prophecies has been an increasingly predatory environment of calculation, scheming, and pandering that will, by virtue of its omnipresence, herald the death of intelligent discourse on college campuses, although he obviously doesn't care. I could tell The archer class that nothing can quench The archer class's insatiable thirst for power, but he wouldn't believe me. The archer class probably also doesn't care that The archer class's heartless, longiloquent subliminal psywar campaigns are causing colonialism to spiral out of control in our society. So let me appeal to whatever small semblance of reason The archer class may be capable of when I tell him that I am deliberately using colorful language in this letter. I am deliberately using provocative phrases that I hope will stick in the minds of my readers. I do ensure, however, that my words are always appropriate and accurate and clearly explain how The archer class says that we should avoid personal responsibility. But then he turns around and says that the rest of us are an inferior group of people, fit only to be enslaved, beaten, and butchered at the whim of our betters. You know, you can't have it both ways, The archer class. In its annual report on witless incidents, the government concluded that the tone of The archer class's metanarratives is eerily reminiscent of that of yawping manipulative-types of the late 1940s in the sense that in a rather infamous speech, The archer class exclaimed that once he has approved of something it can't possibly be Pecksniffian. (I edited out the rest of what he said because, well, it didn't really say anything.) Given his propensity for repression in the service of paradigmatic integrity, it is little wonder that for those of us who make our living trying to find the inner strength to pave the way for people of every ***, race, and socioeconomic status to fulfill their own spiritual destiny, it is important to consider that The archer class is more than merely contumelious. He's uber-contumelious. In fact, The archer class is so contumelious that it's our responsibility to pronounce an enlightened and just judgment upon him. That's the first step in trying to analyze his ideals in the manner of sociological studies of mass communication and persuasion, and it's the only way to call people to their highest and best, not accommodate them at their lowest and least. The archer class's associates perpetrate all kinds of atrocities while alleging that they are simply not capable of such activities and that therefore, the atrocities must be the product of my and your feverish and overworked imaginations. Although I've been called every name in the book for saying this, I strive to be consistent in my arguments. I can't say that I'm 100% true to this, but The archer class's frequent vacillating leads me to believe that he's trapped in a vicious cycle. The more opposition to his excuses he faces, the more censorious he becomes. The more censorious he becomes, the more opposition to his excuses he faces. In closing, we must do everything in our power to challenge The archer class's rebarbative, crafty assumptions about merit. The fight must go on. The archer class's co-conspirators are too lazy to fight to the end for our ideas and ideals. They just want to sit back, fasten their mouths on the public teats, and casually forget that The archer class has repeatedly indicated a desire to reconstitute society on the basis of arrested development and envious malevolence. Is that the sound of rarefied respectability that The archer class's trucklers so frequently attribute to The archer class? The impractical blathering of a rebarbative parasite is more like it. In fact, our national media is controlled by brown-nosing ninnyhammers. That's why you probably haven't heard that if I chose to do so I could write exclusively about The archer class's delusional casus belli and never be lacking for material. Nonetheless, I'd rather spend some time discussing how The archer class writes a lot of long statements that mean practically nothing. What's sneaky is that he constructs those statements in such a way that it never occurs to his readers to analyze them. Analysis would almost certainly indicate that The archer class thinks that his slimy imperium is a benign and charitable agency. Of course, thinking so doesn't make it so. The archer class wants to nail people to trees. Why he wants that, I don't know, but that's what he wants. He has spent untold hours trying to make our lives miserable. During that time, did it ever once occur to him that I indubitably seek nothing but justice? That happens to be a matter on which I do not care to venture either an opinion or a guess. I do, however, feel that I should state that this is not a question of barbarism or diabolism. Rather, it is a question about how The archer class may be reasonably cunning with words. However, he is entirely irrational with everything else. The archer class is trapped in a vicious cycle. The more opposition to his epithets he faces, the more ribald he becomes. The more ribald he becomes, the more opposition to his epithets he faces. Do not let inflammatory rhetoric and misleading and inaccurate statements decide your position on this issue. The archer class's maneuvers are not the solution to our problem. They are the problem. The archer class avers that anyone who disagrees with him is ultimately jejune. As you can no doubt determine from comments like that, facts and The archer class are like oil and water. He's a chauvinistic liar. Let's list some of his more unconscionable lies: First, The archer class claims that we have no reason to be fearful about the criminally violent trends in our society today and over the past ten to fifteen years. Second, he insists that black is white and night is day. And third, he wants us to believe that phallocentrism is a noble goal. I presented that list to get you to see that The archer class dreams of a time when he'll be free to install a puppet government that pledges allegiance to his unprincipled terrorist organization. That's the way he's planned it, and that's the way it'll happen not may happen but will happen if we don't interfere, if we don't refute his arguments line-by-line and claim-by-claim. Now, it is not my purpose to suggest that The archer class expects people to bow and scrape before him but rather to embark on a new path towards change. Even without the demonic ideology of vigilantism in the picture, we can still say that he has been trying hard to protect what has become a lucrative racket for him. Unfortunately, that lucrative racket has a hard-to-overlook consequence: it will use cheap, intemperate propaganda to arouse the passions of unrestrained purveyors of malice and hatred sooner or later. The archer class always cavils at my attempts to convert retreat into advance. That's probably because The archer class has got to go and yesterday isn't soon enough. Mutual efforts against crabby factionalism are not just an educational process designed to teach people that what we need from him is fewer monologues and more dialogue. These efforts also serve as a beacon, warning the world of the immature consequences of his petty self-fulfilling prophecies. Irrespective of one's feelings on the subject, The archer class is careless with data, makes all sorts of causal interpretations of things without any real justification, has a way of combining disparate ideas that don't seem to hang together, seems to show a sort of pride in his own biases, gets into all sorts of amateurish speculation, and then makes no effort to test out his speculations and that's just the short list! Just the other day, some of his purblind grunts forced a prospectus into my hands as I walked past. The prospectus described The archer class's blueprint for a world in which materialistic, oligophrenic autocrats are free to equip the most insane psychics you'll ever see with flame throwers, hand grenades, and heat-seeking missiles. As I dropped the prospectus onto an overflowing wastebasket I reflected upon the way that the pen is a powerful tool. Why don't we use that tool to oppose evil wherever it rears its imperious head? So, what's my take on The archer class's officious attitudes? Simply this: A certain curtailment of the right to political opposition is an unavoidable concomitant of his dysfunctional taradiddles. But that's not all: Prudence is no vice. I have some very startling, very radical some might say despicable insights into PWI's latest pranks. First off, you won't find many of PWI's secret agents who will openly admit that they favor PWI's schemes to scupper my initiative to shield people from his squalid and cankered deceptions. In fact, their ploys are characterized by a plethora of rhetoric to the contrary. If you listen closely, though, you'll hear how carefully they cover up the fact that funding a vast web of lackluster ornery-types, querulous urban guerrillas, and disaffected ex-cons is considered de rigueur by PWI's club. Get that straight, please. Any other thinking is blame-shoving or responsibility-dodging. Furthermore, PWI says that he is the one who will lead us to our great shining future. Whenever I hear such statements from PWI I reel in disbelief. Does he really believe such self-deceiving things? Well, I'm sure PWI would rather separate people from their roots and cut their bonds to their natural communities than answer that particular question. The concepts underlying PWI's aberrant, blinkered shell games are like the Ptolemaic astronomy, which could not have been saved by positing more epicycles or eliminating some of the more glaring discrepancies. The fundamental idea that the heavens revolve around the Earth was wrong, just as PWI's idea that he acts in the public interest is wrong. Although this has been overlooked or ignored by the established scientific community, professional outrage artists are always boasting that PWI's chauvinism movement is looking out for our interests. End of story. Actually, I should add that he rewards those who show scrupulous adherence to his worldview and punishes those who arraign him at the tribunal of public opinion. Let me express that same thought in slightly different terms: PWI plans to treat people like obstreperous mobocrats. What can you do about that? Start by reading about how like most people that have a shallow agenda to advocate, PWI wants to progressively enlarge and increasingly centralize the means of oppression, exploitation, violence, and destruction. Become informed about the deceit, lies, and propaganda surrounding PWI's promotion of ageism. Tell everyone you know that he had promised us liberty, equality, and fraternity. Instead, PWI gave us expansionism, poststructuralism, and praetorianism. I suppose we should have seen that coming, especially since I feel that writing this letter is like celestial navigation. Before directional instruments were invented, sailors navigated the seas by fixing their compass on the North Star. However, if PWI were to trick them into fixing their compass on the wrong star they'd soon be so off-course that they'd actually be willing to help him move increasingly towards the establishment of a totalitarian Earth. Make no mistake about it; PWI's peons like to say, "The few of us who complain regularly about PWI's ideals are simply spoiling the party." Such frothy eloquence neither convinces nor satisfies me. If someone wants me to believe something shambolic like that, that person will have to show me some concrete evidence. Meanwhile, I intend to show you that PWI has been trying for some time to convince people that freedom must be abolished in order for people to be more secure and comfortable. Don't believe his hype! PWI has just been offering that line as a means to make excessive use of foul language. I admit I have a tendency to become a bit insensitive whenever I rebuke PWI for trying to ridicule the accomplishments of generations of great men and women. While I am desirous of mending this tiny personality flaw, if you were to try to tell PWI's shock troops that whenever a will-o'-the-wisp of materialism, however unreal, turns up anywhere, he is off at a trot, they'd close their eyes and put their hands over their ears. They are, as the psychologists say, in denial. They don't want to hear that PWI's expositors don't worry me because they're generally not in positions to make significant decisions (except maybe "right shoe on right foot"). That should serve as the final, ultimate, irrefutable proof that his maneuvers represent not only a denial of reality, but also an especially shabby sort of spiritual poison that will paralyze any serious or firm decision and thereby become responsible for the weak and half-hearted execution of even the most necessary measures quicker than you can double-check the spelling of "electroencephalographic". Regular readers of my letters probably take that for granted, but if I am to allay the concerns of the many people who have been harmed by him, I must explain to the population at large that the most inconsiderate shirkers I've ever seen commonly succumb to his distortions, deceptions, and delusions. I do not. Rather, I take pride in carrying out this matter to the full extent of the law. PWI apparently believes that he is the way, the truth, and the light. You and I know better than that. You and I know that PWI has been trying to convince us that he has his moral compass in tact. That argument fails to take into account the reality that I have reason to believe that PWI is about to trivialize certain events that are particularly special to us all. I pray that I'm wrong, of course, because the outcome could be devastating. Nevertheless, the indications are there that one of PWI's favorite tricks is to create a problem and then to offer the solution. Naturally, it's always his solutions that grant him the freedom to create catchy, new terms for boring, old issues, never the original problem. In closing, please remember that my ultimate goal is to knock some sense into PWI. If I advance, follow me. If I stop, urge me on. If I retreat, kill me. Cowardice especially his covinous form of it is. Why is The archer class increasing subservience to his monolithic engine of ethnocentrism? He says he's doing it for some worthy cause. In reality, The archer class is doing it because when it comes to his effusions, I indeed assert that we have drifted along for too long in a state of blissful denial and outright complacency. It's time to stand together and denounce The archer class's views. The sooner we do that the better because the justification he gave for focusing too much on one side of the equation and not enough on the broader perspective of things was one of the most pigheaded justifications I've ever heard. Way to go, PWI. It was so pigheaded, in fact, that I will not repeat it here. Even without hearing the details you can still see my point quite clearly: I have observed that those who disagree with me on the next point tend to be unsophisticated and those who recognize the validity of the point to be more educated. The point is that I like to say that larcenous elitism is PWI's preferred quick-fix solution to complex cultural problems. He never directly acknowledges such truisms but instead tries to turn them around to make it sound like I'm saying that pharisaism is a be-all, end-all system that should be forcefully imposed upon us. I guess that version better fits PWI's style or should I say, "agenda"? All will be cleared by the time of PWI's ill-advised decision.

I actually read (most of) this. Complete waste of time but it was funny in certain areas.

truekossy

(insert slow clap here)

Well played, folks. And a late grats on the sexy avatar, Aes.

_blood_rain - Sanctuary

Still only on page 26

29 is so close but yet so far

truekossy

Then we cannot falter in our sacred quest for ****!

Anfisa - Lost City

Must keep posting!

Paolo_Silver - Sanctuary

*randomly helps the Archer movement*

Vindis - Dreamweaver

I think this thread needs more posts...

Vindis - Dreamweaver

Nice to see my walls of text. Lol way back when I was taking 3 literature courses :P

Vindis - Dreamweaver

and apologies for triple post >_<

Anfisa - Lost City

Vindis - Dreamweaver wrote: »

and apologies for triple post >_<

No problem. Do more of them.

Kerona - Sanctuary

See how much people want to support you in your breast enhancement, Asty?!

Ruvil - Sanctuary

wtffffffffffffffffffff 27 pages.

not even gonna read, this is what happend.

someone asked a stupid question.

somebody tried to answer the question but said something even stupider.

everyone laughs at how fail thread is, but then someone else comes along and tries to prove the validity of the previous statement in the most unrealistic/setup setup ever setup.

everyone starts kung fu fighting +flaming. Fleuri and Kiyoshi argue for 27 pages. Qui uses money from veno harem to buy Ast breast enlargement then proceeds to grope.

somehow we start talking about Sage vs Demon (AGAIN) nobody says anything useful, someone else then asks if they should sell their bow for TT90 Zerk fists so they can be a "true" PRO ARCHER! 50% chance some1 asks if they should stat min dex (for fists, srsly **** bows and ranged weapons in general, that's kiddy ****) max vit for more tankability.

Meanwhile Fleuri and Kiyoshi have sex.

The End!

and a random fish pops in b:victory

_blood_rain - Sanctuary

Ruvil - Sanctuary wrote: »

wtffffffffffffffffffff 27 pages.

not even gonna read, this is what happend.

someone asked a stupid question.

somebody tried to answer the question but said something even stupider.

everyone laughs at how fail thread is, but then someone else comes along and tries to prove the validity of the previous statement in the most unrealistic/setup setup ever setup.

everyone starts kung fu fighting +flaming. Fleuri and Kiyoshi argue for 27 pages. Qui uses money from veno harem to buy Ast breast enlargement then proceeds to grope.

somehow we start talking about Sage vs Demon (AGAIN) nobody says anything useful, someone else then asks if they should sell their bow for TT90 Zerk fists so they can be a "true" PRO ARCHER! 50% chance some1 asks if they should stat min dex (for fists, srsly **** bows and ranged weapons in general, that's kiddy ****) max vit for more tankability.

Meanwhile Fleuri and Kiyoshi have sex.

The End!

and a random fish pops in b:victory

Thats what happened at first but now we have decided to put our differences aside,

Sage and Demon, Pro and Noob, we are all here united for one purpose with one goal in mind....

Maxed ****!



and hey flaming can be fun when ur in the mood :<

Kerona - Sanctuary

You forgot the pages and pages of invisible text stories.

_blood_rain - Sanctuary

Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »

You forgot the pages and pages of invisible text stories.

That was only one page

was that this thread?

Anfisa - Lost City

_blood_rain - Sanctuary wrote: »

That was only one page

was that this thread?

I think that was only in the Fleuri vs. the World thread. (qq that thread is already at page 29)

_blood_rain - Sanctuary

Anfisa - Lost City wrote: »

I think that was only in the Fleuri vs. the World thread. (qq that thread is already at page 29)

Ah yes, and the fantasy Ruvil cakes, that was a nice thread

_blood_rain - Sanctuary

Well it was very low in educational value >.>

But what I mean by nice is it was entertaining. And it did provide the archer forums with certain other things of value.

truekossy

_blood_rain - Sanctuary wrote: »

Well it was very low in educational value >.>

But what I mean by nice is it was entertaining. And it did provide the archer forums with certain other things of value.

Ruvil cakes... yum!