Wizerds are broken

Mobot - Lost City

Seriously wizards are the most broken class in the game. Since 5.0 came out i cant go head to head vs anyone with the same lev gear as me and win. Sins either 1 shot me from stealth or kill me in less then 2 seconds. Bms just oc ice and kill me in 2 secs flat, venos bleed me to death in 3 seconds, Barbs oc ice and arma me, archers just hit me 50 times in 2 seconds and i die. Psychics don't take any magic damage from me due to there shields and kill me with 1 or 2 hits. WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS GAME. IM r8 with decent refines and I cant fight anyone with the same Lev gear and win. Just BS.

Wizards no longer have a role in PVP or PVE there is no reason to play a wizard. Way to ruin the game PWI.

BloodyVampie - Heavens Tear

lmao trolling much eh?

or maybe u oracled and hypered to 100?

cmon learn to play ur wiz

wnight

How about to pay attention to your skills? You have 2 perfect "paralize" spells , in addition depends on chosen patch there are skills which recieve an additional stat affection effects.

P.S Physics "anti-magic" reflection pain in buttoms can be easily "tricked" as well before crying that barb Occult Ice you or BM stuns you , my question is who/what avoids you to use genie as well? I DON'T have R8 gear neither my refines surpass +5 i still kill chars of my lvl and even few levels higher b:bye

Evict - Heavens Tear

Classic example of Oracle/Hyper noob.

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

I told this pretty long time ago. You can have super gear perfect gear but if you are constantly stunned, sealed, etc, your gear and weapon is useless. I realize this long time ago. Wizard don't have enough controlling skills comparing with his long time channeling.

Arenaceous - Lost City

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I told this pretty long time ago. You can have super gear perfect gear but if you are constantly stunned, sealed, etc, your gear and weapon is useless. I realize this long time ago. Wizard don't have enough controlling skills comparing with his long time channeling.

Oooor you could just learn how to use your genie skills and how to play your class. Or accept the fact that there is other pvp than one vs one. But yea, od course you quit the game long time ago and just stay to tell everyone how much you hate this game. Way to waste your free time.

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »

Oooor you could just learn how to use your genie skills and how to play your class. Or accept the fact that there is other pvp than one vs one. But yea, od course you quit the game long time ago and just stay to tell everyone how much you hate this game. Way to waste your free time.

wow this is telling me lv.81 wizard.b:chuckle

HarmOwnie - Dreamweaver

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »

wow this is telling me lv.81 wizard.b:chuckle

lvl is just a question of oracles and hypers dont judge people according to it ^^b:chuckle

Minimus_ - Sanctuary

Not always easy to play a wiz but you can still do the most epic dmg on any class. Also on the feared sins. Psychic may be also interesting. Would be boring to be able to squish everyone without having real enemies.

Xegeth - Dreamweaver

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »

wow this is telling me lv.81 wizard.b:chuckle

Beside the fact that my post stands for it's own and has nothing to do with my level - I may be a level 81 wizard on lost city because I rerolled another char for farming, but I have a lot of experience as a wizard. It is also in my Lost City wizards sig, you could have read it before posting.

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

Mobot - Lost City wrote: »

Seriously wizards are the most broken class in the game.

OK, they are the weakest 1 vs 1 classes in the game, yes they are. No doubt about it. But to say you can NEVER beat ANYONE your own level and gear is not really correct. If you are implying that you can't at lvl 81? I might agree with you. But 90+ and certainly 100+, you can do much better. You will still be the weakest, but NEVER beat another class equally geared? Just not true if you know what you are doing.

And what are you doing pk'ing anyway? I have said this (and been flamed for saying this) multiple times: If you want to 1 vs 1 pk, don't play a wiz.

Wizards shouldn't expect to do well in pk outside of TW.

That being said . . . .

wnight wrote: »

How about to pay attention to your skills? You have 2 perfect "paralize" spells.

This is absurd. "Perfect" paralyze spells? You mean the one that allow them to run out of range or the one that dispels as soon as they are hit and only lasts long enough for us to cast gush? Gee whiz, if you call these perfect, I would hate to see what you think are horrible paralyze spells.

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

OK, they are the weakest 1 vs 1 classes in the game, yes they are. No doubt about it. But to say you can NEVER beat ANYONE your own level and gear is not really correct. If you are implying that you can't at lvl 81? I might agree with you. But 90+ and certainly 100+, you can do much better. You will still be the weakest, but NEVER beat another class equally geared? Just not true if you know what you are doing.

And what are you doing pk'ing anyway? I have said this (and been flamed for saying this) multiple times: If you want to 1 vs 1 pk, don't play a wiz.

Wizards shouldn't expect to do well in pk outside of TW.

That being said . . . .



This is absurd. "Perfect" paralyze spells? You mean the one that allow them to run out of range or the one that dispels as soon as they are hit and only lasts long enough for us to cast gush? Gee whiz, if you call these perfect, I would hate to see what you think are horrible paralyze spells.

Exactly. Seal which last 5s? Or 4s sleep with cooldown 1min? b:chuckle
Ok what spells are we mainly using in PVP? Yes they are low channeling spells. Ulitmates requires 2 sparks which take lot of time to get and impossible to get it in pvp fight. If you don't have it before fight you have HUGE disadvantage.
To balance little bit this class they should remove sparks requirement from sutra at least and 1 min cooldown is enough.

Arenaceous - Lost City

Why don't you people just go and watch Adroits PvP videos? You see him beat people with way better gear/refines period. I know the people he kills, nirvana bms etc... With HH99 +10...

(Oh and way to ignore me Mumintroll, lol. You really became the last part of your name, a shame.)

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »

Why don't you people just go and watch Adroits PvP videos? You see him beat people with way better gear/refines period. I know the people he kills, nirvana bms etc... With HH99 +10...

(Oh and way to ignore me Mumintroll, lol. You really became the last part of your name, a shame.)

Why don't YOU go watch them. And not to ooo and awe, but WATCH them critically.

The last one I saw, I saw uncharmed people with less than 5k hp. I'm not saying Adroit is good, or he's not good, or I am better than him or not better than him.

What I AM saying is a fact - those people aren't much of a challenge for someone with his gear.

And note his uber genie, which on my server would cost 30m or more to purchase - IF you could find one.

AND note that for many of those fights, he is not solo but in squad with 2 or 3 other people or more.

In fact I posted THIS after watching it:

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

Don't get me wrong, I love seeing these pk videos (the quality is awesome, edited well too). But I am noticing alot of people without charms, and alot of kills with 5.5k hp or less (one wiz with less than 3800 hp - my no cash lvl 95 wiz on Sanctuary has 4200).

Love watching it, but just from what we see (charm, the omg i want that genie) and what we know (the +10 IHRS), I think he has most people here outgeared and likely out leveled.

Makes me wish they would merge Arch with a PvE server though. Its so dead over here.

To which Adroit replied "You're right". Click the little red dot in the quote and read for yourself.

Again, not an Adroit flame thread, but you should watch the video with a more critical eye and stop merely smelling his jock so much and concluding that wizards are awesome. Or at least do that before you attempt to use it as something to contradict what your betters have said here.

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

Why don't YOU go watch them. And not to ooo and awe, but WATCH them critically.

The last one I saw, I saw uncharmed people with less than 5k hp. I'm not saying Adroit is good, or he's not good, or I am better than him or not better than him.

What I AM saying is a fact - those people aren't much of a challenge for someone with his gear.

And note his uber genie, which on my server would cost 30m or more to purchase - IF you could find one.

AND note that for many of those fights, he is not solo but in squad with 2 or 3 other people or more.

True and another video what I saw was in air which is different from fight on land. In some instances you cannot fly. Also You see her video when she wins. Who knows how many time she died. I would also post my videos where I winning no loosing. I'm not telling she is bad in Pvp just see it with normal eyes.

Arenaceous - Lost City

I was mostly refering to the first video in which he fights Calvin and EliteDeath later on. They have really good gear and are charmed as well. I never said you do not need a well built genie or a charm as wizard - of course you do. And what kind of argument is "in some instances you cannot fly"? Most of the pk on LC happens in the air, it's more the norm than ground fights really. And of course a wizard should use that to his advantage... I'm not gonna fight a bm with all his accelerate skills on the ground...

And what's 30M if you invest in a serious pk char? What do you think aps gear costs the people? My 2.86/4 aps sin carries around gear with a total worth of like ~300M-400M... And the sin has only imacs sharded and no refine higher than +6 (tisha/tienkang). What do you think those bms invested in their gear? Do you think they all use **** genies? Sure the later videos/some group pvp scenes show Adroit go against undergeared and underleveld players. But there are scenes where he really survives 3 on one ganks for a certain amount of time. And his gear is really average among the LC 100+s...

I am not saying a wizard is easy to play, nor am I saying he is the strongest 1 on 1 char or that it wouldn't be good to give him some boosts. I am just annoyed by all the "I cannot kill anything on my wiz, I am sooo underpowered"-bs that i keep hearing. If you really cannot win 1 on 1, go squad up and fight 6 against 6 or something. Of course a wizard performs better in those scenarios.

wnight

"This is absurd. "Perfect" paralyze spells? You mean the one that allow them to run out of range or the one that dispels as soon as they are hit and only lasts long enough for us to cast gush? Gee whiz, if you call these perfect, I would hate to see what you think are horrible paralyze spells."

oh lol do i smell another oracle xOOb ? b:chuckle
The 2 spells i mentioned are "perfect" and if you don't use at least for a little your head nothing will help youb:bye

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »

I was mostly refering to the first video in which he fights Calvin and EliteDeath later on.

You referred to "videos". Now its just one. Ok, fine. So you are saying on one day a wizard did good? Thats far different that saying "look at all Adroits videos where he owns people who have him out geared".

I'll go back and watch the first video tonight and see if there is anything ELSE there that you just aren't noticing, or are knowingly keeping out of these posts to bolster your argument that "wizards own" at end game.

Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »

And what's 30M if you invest in a serious pk char?

Post a screenshot of your 81 lp genie, please.

And my point wasn't that you shouldn't have one, my point is that most don't. And other pk classes don't need to spend that 30m to be competitive in pk. The fact that some do doesn't alter that reality.

Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »

What do you think those bms invested in their gear?

What do I think? Far less than a wizard with far better results. See one of the other posts in this thread even.

Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »

But there are scenes where he really survives 3 on one ganks for a certain amount of time. And his gear is really average among the LC 100+s...

I doubt its AVERAGE. I don't doubt its not the BEST. But I am quite certain there are lots and lots of wizards with genies with 71 lp or less, TT90 green (I assume he has TT99, but who knows), a +10 weapon (although now with Rank 8 EVERY 100 wiz probably has a better weapon than him - but thats a discussion for another thread) and I won't pretend to know what his other gear is.

And a 3 vs 1 gank isn't hard to survive, depending on who they are. 3 vs 1 veno, bm and barb or cleric, bm and barb if you have them outgeared/outleveled? Not hard at all. I did it last night in fact and wiped them out.

3 vs 1 against archer, sin and bm? different story.

Do you even know who he survived against? Without looking back at the video now? Of course you don't. You just ooo'd and awe'd and drooled.

Pay attention to detail. Its the only way you will ever know what you are talking about.

Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »

I am not saying a wizard is easy to play, nor am I saying he is the strongest 1 on 1 char or that it wouldn't be good to give him some boosts. I am just annoyed by all the "I cannot kill anything on my wiz, I am sooo underpowered"-bs that i keep hearing. If you really cannot win 1 on 1, go squad up and fight 6 against 6 or something. Of course a wizard performs better in those scenarios.

I don't think anyone said anything other than this, except possible the OP.

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

wnight wrote: »

oh lol do i smell another oracle xOOb ?

The 2 spells i mentioned are "perfect" and if you don't use at least for a little your head nothing will help youb:bye

Big words from someone posting under an alias. I have 2 lvl 100 wizards on 2 servers. And I have the most pk kills on my server of any wiz.

That doesn't mean I am great. By no means.

But that alone is sufficient to put the burden on you to put up or b:shutup

For all we know, you've never even played a wizard b:surrender And by the way you describe their "perfect" skills, I suspect that is correct.b:bye

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »

I was mostly refering to the first video in which he fights Calvin and EliteDeath later on. They have really good gear and are charmed as well. I never said you do not need a well built genie or a charm as wizard - of course you do. And what kind of argument is "in some instances you cannot fly"? Most of the pk on LC happens in the air, it's more the norm than ground fights really. And of course a wizard should use that to his advantage... I'm not gonna fight a bm with all his accelerate skills on the ground...

And what's 30M if you invest in a serious pk char? What do you think aps gear costs the people? My 2.86/4 aps sin carries around gear with a total worth of like ~300M-400M... And the sin has only imacs sharded and no refine higher than +6 (tisha/tienkang). What do you think those bms invested in their gear? Do you think they all use **** genies? Sure the later videos/some group pvp scenes show Adroit go against undergeared and underleveld players. But there are scenes where he really survives 3 on one ganks for a certain amount of time. And his gear is really average among the LC 100+s...

I am not saying a wizard is easy to play, nor am I saying he is the strongest 1 on 1 char or that it wouldn't be good to give him some boosts. I am just annoyed by all the "I cannot kill anything on my wiz, I am sooo underpowered"-bs that i keep hearing. If you really cannot win 1 on 1, go squad up and fight 6 against 6 or something. Of course a wizard performs better in those scenarios.

Instances where you cannot fly are for example. Dragon temple event but most important is cube. I don't know about other events I think one is also(dont' remember name) the cave beside dreaming port town. In these you have disadvantage of flying.

Arenaceous - Lost City

Ty for deleting my half done post forum, yay... OK, I will make it a bit shorter now..

First of all: No need to get that offensive, my last passage should have made clear that I am not running around telling everyone that "wizards own endgame" but that I am just annoyed by statements like the OPs or Munintrolls (not only in this thread, but in general).

I said "mostly refering", because I know that the second video contains more group pvp... And the interesting one on ones are in the first.

Besides, I can post you a screenshot of my 75/90 lp genie, if it makes u happy. I got it for 10M when it was 73/80, because noone else bid on it after 5 wcs... Was a bit unlucky in only getting 2 lp on 90, but all in all 8 LP at 90 + 100 combined is usually not that hard to get...

I can tell you for sure that the bms invested more. And yea they got better results in pve, which makes it easier for them to get better gear/higher refines. But that is an entirely different topic. I am absolutely of the opinion that wizards get screwed over worst of all classes in pve.

Here is the gear he uses:

http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=f8e86d7788e371e0

taken from his third videos describtion, and I have seen it ingame too. The only expensive thing really is his rings and the refine of his wep. It's not even all 4 sockets. Sorry to say, but this IS average if you only consider those 100+s on LC that pk regularly. And as you pointed out correctly, now every wizard can easily get more fire power... If I took the coin and invested in a sin, I would maybe - if at all - get 2.86 aps sparked - not even enough to get accepted in most nirvana parties these days. As pointed out above, you get far, far better returns farming wise for the sin ofc.

If I remember correctly, one time he gets ganked by some TC sin and someone else when he fights that El33tDeath BM. I don't remember the exact other ganks, granted.

And I am neither drooling, I just respect his pk skills, nor don't I know what I am talking about. I am merely discussing here, bringing arguments, posting his gear, bringing examples etc. So no use insulting me or telling me I'm a blind fanboy...

Arenaceous - Lost City

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Instances where you cannot fly are for example. Dragon temple event but most important is cube. I don't know about other events I think one is also(dont' remember name) the cave beside dreaming port town. In these you have disadvantage of flying.

Yep, that is why rolling a wizard on a PvE server, where those are the only spots you regularly pk, sucks.

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »

First of all: No need to get that offensive . . . .

You basically tell people that probably were playing a lvl 100 wiz before you even downloaded the game to "learn to play your class" and imply that merely watching Adroit's pvp videos show we don't know what we are talking about?

Oh yes, no need to be offended . . . .

Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »

I am not runnign around telling everyoen that "wizards own endgame" but that I am just annoyed by statements like the OPs or Munintroll (not only in this trhead, but in general).

Yes, you are. People that say wizards don't "own endgame" are people that can't play their class and are proven wrong by a video.

Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »

but all in all 8 LP in at 90 + 100 combined is usually not that hard to get...
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=f8e86d7788e371e0

I assume you mean 81+ LP? And if so, that's not a very believable statement in general. Even less believable from someone who doesn't have one.

Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »

I can tell you for sure that the bms invested more.

Well, you can TELL us ANYTHING, can't you? That doesn't make it any more true that anything else you have said here, but you can certainly tell us that.

Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »

The only expensive thing really is his rings and the refine of his wep. It's not even all 4 sockets.

You think 4 sockets matter end game? Aw, thats sooooo cute.

Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »

Sorry to say, but this IS average if you only consider those 100+s on LC that pk regularly.

Ahhh, there's the rub. Recognize, at least, that "average" and "average if you only consider those 100+s on LC that pk regularly".

You limit the pool to people that have spent THOUSANDS on their gear, then generalize that this is AVERAGE on a forum full of wizards from other servers, etc.

I am not even on your server, and I am very comfortable standing on the statement that Adroits gear is not merely AVERAGE for wizards on Lost City, let alone any other server.

Arenaceous - Lost City wrote: »

And I am neither drooling, I just respect his pk skills, nor don't I know what I am talking about. I am merely discussing here, bringing arguments, posting his gear, bringing examples etc. So no use insulting me or telling me I'm a blind fanboy...

That is absolutely NOT "merely" what you are doing here. You are making statements that are untrue to people that don't know any better. And YOU are the one that is insulting people - telling people that know far better than you that they just don't know their class, that average gear is enough, etc. etc. etc.

I have no quarrel with anyone. I do find much fault with people saying things that are untrue to people that don't know any better and allowing them to invest time and money into a class that, had the truth been told to them, they would have never chosen.

Now, if they chose it anyway, so be it. I have tons of fun on my wiz, but its not because I own, its not because we are op at end game or any of the other myths that are perpetuated by people like who read old forum posts from when people never even used fists/claws and repeat them as if they are true today.

Arenaceous - Lost City

I was lvl 100 before Mumintroll on my Dreamweaver wizard, I posted on him earlier in this thread and pointed at my sig, where it says that this wizard is basically Xegeth #2, rerolled on a pvp server. I was one of the first really serious sage wizards, I think like third or fourth sage wizard getting the infamous sage ice dragon (Saitchiko was the first, I think Fizban teh second) on my server (Dreamweaver was pretty new when I started), I pked alot and I TWed a lot, I also trolled the forums a lot. And I was discussing wizard strategies, genies and gear setups endlessly ingame with people like Mizuoni, MageFizban, mytwen, Legacci and later SurferGirl... All pretty well known wizards on Dreamweaver...
Granted, my statement was maybe sounding a bit pissy or arrogant - I hereby apologize if you felt offended, ok? But Mumintroll used to be really cool, was posting a lot in wizard forums - as was I and now he basically only rages about a - in his eyes - dead game that he doesn't even play anymore.

No I meant I got a 73/80 LP genie for 10M, and that it shouldn't be all that heard t0 get a 81/100 genie from a 73/80, that is 4 lp at 90 and 100 average.

Here is my genie as it is now:
http://s1.directupload.net/images/101220/cis6y8sd.jpg

Arenaceous - Lost City

"Well, you can TELL us ANYTHING, can't you? That doesn't make it any more true that anything else you have said here, but you can certainly tell us that."

Do you want me to run through Archosaur til lI find Calvin or El33tDeath and screenshot their gear to believe me? I can certainly do that if you like. Just tell me if you want me to.

"You think 4 sockets matter end game? Aw, thats sooooo cute."

Come down, if you compare 2 all with 4 sockets all on all gear, that is 12 additional slots. 600 more hp if you only shard citrines. If you compare 3 sockets all with 4 sockets all it's still 300 more hp. And that's only for imacs. Of course that matters.


"Ahhh, there's the rub. Recognize, at least, that "average" and "average if you only consider those 100+s on LC that pk regularly".

You limit the pool to people that have spent THOUSANDS on their gear, then generalize that this is AVERAGE on a forum full of wizards from other servers, etc.

I am not even on your server, and I am very comfortable standing on the statement that Adroits gear is not merely AVERAGE for wizards on Lost City, let alone any other server."

First of all. There are a lot of 100+ people that never farmed, only stuck in FC and have absolutely crappy gear. And no I will nto count those, sorry. And I can only speak for the server I play on, but I invite you to come over, fly a blue name to arch and look at the 100+ people's gear.

Considering your last paragraph: If someone comes to me and asks me if it's worth to play a wizard, I will not go to him and say "**** it, wizards suck, roll a sin". Sorry, I just won't. I will tell him that wizards get screwed over in PvE, are useless before endgame and need skill and decent gear endgame. But I will not tell him that wizards are useless and don't stand a chance against noone.

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

I'm sorry I have to tell it again, but I'm still playing wizard, BUT not on PWI just on p.server vendetta. And I'm telling wizards is very good PvP class just NOT here on PWI. I'm playing without Tideborns, without genies on PvP server and I can honestly tell you, the game there is MUCH more balanced in pvp than this PWI. No I don't win every fight, but also I don't loose everytime. I would say I'm winning significantly more times than loosing.(main problem there is ganging)

This game was **** up by dev. and dependable of huge amount of real money to play. Sure you can play for free but you cannot have a fun for free. You will be just killed ~90% of Pvp fights. Is not wizards failure is it dev. FAILURE in huge way. They did this game SO unbalanced and not worth playing for all classes, just for few. Yea there still be some wizards who think they will shine at the end, but they will not. The good times of wizards here are gone.
But if you like play wizard just play. In my opinion this game became so broken for wizards so is not worth play this class anymore. Is not worth of time spending and gathering gear, because at the end you will be beaten anyway.

MageFizban - Lost City

@Mumintroll

Stop trolling. Ever since you first started posting, all you do is QQ about how much you suck. I remember posts from when you were 95 and complaining about how you died to every class and how bad your pdef was. Even after you've quit, you STILL don't have the decency to stop complaining to people who don't care how bad you were/are/will be.

@BLOODMYSTIC

I loved your song lyrics, but let's just set some things straight here.

Adroit's gear is almost under average on LC. Frankly, it's kind of bad. I don't know about Archosaur server, but mats on LC are probably cheaper and more people charge gold. Mobot's gear is probably comparable to Adroit's. He hasn't been 100+ for too long either. I'm pretty sure he sucks at playing wiz as much as I suck at playing psy (a LOT).

Wizzies do fine 1v1. We just do much better in group pvp. TWs

Arganoth - Lost City

Mobot - Lost City wrote: »

Seriously wizards are the most broken class in the game. Since 5.0 came out i cant go head to head vs anyone with the same lev gear as me and win. Sins either 1 shot me from stealth or kill me in less then 2 seconds. Bms just oc ice and kill me in 2 secs flat, venos bleed me to death in 3 seconds, Barbs oc ice and arma me, archers just hit me 50 times in 2 seconds and i die. Psychics don't take any magic damage from me due to there shields and kill me with 1 or 2 hits. WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS GAME. IM r8 with decent refines and I cant fight anyone with the same Lev gear and win. Just BS.

Wizards no longer have a role in PVP or PVE there is no reason to play a wizard. Way to ruin the game PWI.

I refuse to believe you obtained 100 levels this month; ergo, you must be a troll.

Mobot - Lost City

Arganoth - Lost City wrote: »

I refuse to believe you obtained 100 levels this month; ergo, you must be a troll.

Iv been playing this game on and off since it came out. Wiz pwned before they were ruined by the developers. If you think i'm wrong try pking with a wiz. Everything will beat you, even at 100 with R8 gear. If you weren't obsessed with calling people trolls, you would realize that the join date illustrated by the forum applies to the forum alone, and is not indicative of the actual join date for a user in the game.

MageFizban - Lost City

You must really suck if you get rolled by average archers. I remember on my mage, archers with +7 cv bows only hit 3 digits on me when I was just selfbuffed. Archers get oneshot by a gush crit anyway.

Mumintroll - Heavens Tear

MageFizban - Lost City wrote: »

@Mumintroll

Stop trolling. Ever since you first started posting, all you do is QQ about how much you suck. I remember posts from when you were 95 and complaining about how you died to every class and how bad your pdef was. Even after you've quit, you STILL don't have the decency to stop complaining to people who don't care how bad you were/are/will be.

@BLOODMYSTIC

I loved your song lyrics, but let's just set some things straight here.

Adroit's gear is almost under average on LC. Frankly, it's kind of bad. I don't know about Archosaur server, but mats on LC are probably cheaper and more people charge gold. Mobot's gear is probably comparable to Adroit's. He hasn't been 100+ for too long either. I'm pretty sure he sucks at playing wiz as much as I suck at playing psy (a LOT).

Wizzies do fine 1v1. We just do much better in group pvp. TWs

This is BS. I quit just 1 time and forever. I started complain when tideborns came out. And you coward why YOU changed your class? Herob:chuckle Why YOU choose the most powerful class? Idiot.