Lunar Claws or TT100fists

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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    How does HH100 cost twice as much as 2 socket CV claws?

    My Lunar Insignia : Weapon cost me... either 52 or 54 mil, I forget, but it was one of those two. I crafted mine with 2 sockets. = cheaper than TT100 unless you were one of those lucky people who bought Heart of Nature when it first came out of packs for 10m or so.

    I like to think CV claws are just as good as HH100 with end games refines, but last time I checked, 2 socket CV claws cost just as much to make as HH100.

    100 fists are marginally better, but the difference isn't all that much really. They're better for PvE, not as good for PvP, but the difference is small.
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  • pachicho
    pachicho Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    tt100>nirvana>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lunar

    tt100 +12 wiht 2 garnet gems in a sage bm dex=200 rest str vs nirvana+12(G13) 2 garnets same toon

    nirvana wins for only 50 phsy dmg, but the min dmg in tt100 is higher
    so is 4%crit vs hp reduced...i rather 4%crit
    nirvana has vit...who cares..if u can afford a +12 i am sure u have enough hp refining armors.
    tt100 cost around 150m, nirvana around 200mish, better save those 50m and refine

    the only weapon that really out dmg tt100 are g15 nirvana or warsoul. but it sucks it doenst have interval. and to be honest if u doing g15 or warsoul for ur bm, better get the really end game weapon. AXES!!!!!!!!! why?dmg spike zerker, at least for pvp.

    sooo for pvp the best is g15 axes.

    and is not a teory, i remember swordman figthing chezedude and both wiht fists swordman soemtimes lost..sometimes win...but when he got g15 axes it was all for swordman.

    about the look, who cares?????psss dont be noobs. dmg>>>>>>>>look

    tys
  • Wuss - Harshlands
    Wuss - Harshlands Posts: 168 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    pachicho wrote: »
    tt100>nirvana>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lunar

    tt100 +12 wiht 2 garnet gems in a sage bm dex=200 rest str vs nirvana+12(G13) 2 garnets same toon

    nirvana wins for only 50 phsy dmg, but the min dmg in tt100 is higher
    so is 4%crit vs hp reduced...i rather 4%crit
    nirvana has vit...who cares..if u can afford a +12 i am sure u have enough hp refining armors.
    tt100 cost around 150m, nirvana around 200mish, better save those 50m and refine

    the only weapon that really out dmg tt100 are g15 nirvana or warsoul. but it sucks it doenst have interval. and to be honest if u doing g15 or warsoul for ur bm, better get the really end game weapon. AXES!!!!!!!!! why?dmg spike zerker, at least for pvp.

    sooo for pvp the best is g15 axes.

    and is not a teory, i remember swordman figthing chezedude and both wiht fists swordman soemtimes lost..sometimes win...but when he got g15 axes it was all for swordman.

    about the look, who cares?????psss dont be noobs. dmg>>>>>>>>look

    tys

    you say that nirvana dmg is higher but you are wrong unless nirvana is recast because tt100 gives the addition damage bonus beneath the crit nvm my bad you said g15 i have edited after closer review lol

    however if you look in my post just now about nirvana claws somone stated that g15 can get .10
  • Okeano - Harshlands
    Okeano - Harshlands Posts: 4,943 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    G15 can't get "-0.1" as one stat but have the (very very small) possibility of getting -0.05 twice.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Wuss - Harshlands wrote: »
    you say that nirvana dmg is higher but you are wrong unless nirvana is recast because tt100 gives the addition damage bonus beneath the crit nvm my bad you said g15 i have edited after closer review lol

    however if you look in my post just now about nirvana claws somone stated that g15 can get .10

    G13 is slightly better than TT100 at +10 when you consider the proc and better at +12, but it costs more.

    Deicide
    +10 966-1141 avg 1053.5
    +12 1285-1460 avg 1372.5

    TT100
    +10 1044-1253 avg 1148.5
    +12 1318-1527 avg 1422.5

    G13
    +10 1043-1246 avg 1144.5
    +12 1362-1565 avg 1463.5

    G15 claws
    +10 1182-1434 avg 1308
    +12 1501-1753 avg 1627

    G15 fists
    +10 1266-1350 avg 1308
    +12 1585-1669 avg 1627

    This is why I say endgame is either TT100 or G15 Nirvana, DPS at 5.0 is going to be significantly higher with G15. Lunar is still marginally better for solo/small squad TT runs than TT100 but equally refined TT100 will still hold aggro over them.
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  • Fist_Mama - Harshlands
    Fist_Mama - Harshlands Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    ill eventually nirvana my claws so i guess im gonna go wit decidesb:pleased
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Fist_Mama - Harshlands wrote: »
    ill eventually nirvana my claws so i guess im gonna go wit decidesb:pleased

    Waste of money, but if it makes you happy. b:bye
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  • Fist_Mama - Harshlands
    Fist_Mama - Harshlands Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Waste of money, but if it makes you happy. b:bye

    how so?
    TT100=150m and have to be level 100 to use
    decides=50m and lvl 95 to use.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Fist_Mama - Harshlands wrote: »
    how so?
    TT100=150m and have to be level 100 to use
    decides=50m and lvl 95 to use.

    Deicides = 50-70m

    99 Gold = 12-15m

    Why convert Deicides when you can convert 99 Gold and use the money from selling the deicides to refine?
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  • Fist_Mama - Harshlands
    Fist_Mama - Harshlands Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Deicides = 50-70m

    99 Gold = 12-15m

    Why convert Deicides when you can convert 99 Gold and use the money from selling the deicides to refine?

    why da fak would i want 99 gold?

    EDIT: if i nirvana 99 gold theres a chance to get the interval add on im not gonna waste money so i can maybe have the interval i want a 100% garuntee of -10
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Fist_Mama - Harshlands wrote: »
    why da fak would i want 99 gold?

    EDIT: if i nirvana 99 gold theres a chance to get the interval add on im not gonna waste money so i can maybe have the interval i want a 100% garuntee of -10

    OMG, have you not even paid attention to this thread you've even been participating in?

    Geez.

    Never f'n mind.

    Learn 2 read.

    b:bye
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  • Fist_Mama - Harshlands
    Fist_Mama - Harshlands Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    OMG, have you not even paid attention to this thread you've even been participating in?

    Geez.

    Never f'n mind.

    Learn 2 read.

    b:bye

    yes i have been apart of this thread have you?

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25983

    thats the g13 of TT99 fist do you see an interval add on cause i sure dont.
    g13 nirvana claws give the interval add on.
    TT100 fist give the interval add on.
    im not gonna result too your maturity level.
    again i will restate i want a 100% garuntee of an -10 intervall add on.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Fist_Mama - Harshlands wrote: »
    yes i have been apart of this thread have you?

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25983

    thats the g13 of TT99 fist do you see an interval add on cause i sure dont.
    g13 nirvana claws give the interval add on.
    TT100 fist give the interval add on.
    im not gonna result too your maturity level.
    again i will restate i want a 100% garuntee of an -10 intervall add on.

    Maturity level?

    What about stupidity level?

    I answered your own question for you, and even explained it in detail, yet you can't seem to read or understand.

    ....


    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25981
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    LifeHunting - Lost City wrote: »
    I like how the looks of the niravana wep are. And the possible stats of it are very nice.
    LifeHunting - Lost City wrote: »
    And didn't know you could use TT99 weps....o.O...that new? or has it always been there?

    The stats of the G13 recasts are the same no matter what donor piece you use. In other words, you can get -0.1 interval G13 claws with 99 gold fists.

    TT100 goes straight to G15. The only thing you get is that it starts off 2 socket, potentially saving you 20m to socket 99 gold and it only costs 230 Raptures to make G15 instead of 250 with lunar or 99 gold.

    99 gold can be made for under 20m. I occasionally see the crafted unbound 99 gold fists for 13-15m. 99 gold axes are cheap too. I made one of each. Both of them cost together was less than half the price of a lunar weapon.
    Fist_Mama - Harshlands wrote: »
    can you get -10 add ons from nirvaning the TT99 fist?

    Yes.
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Fist_Mama - Harshlands wrote: »
    yes i have been apart of this thread have you?

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25983

    thats the g13 of TT99 fist do you see an interval add on cause i sure dont.
    g13 nirvana claws give the interval add on.
    TT100 fist give the interval add on.
    im not gonna result too your maturity level.
    again i will restate i want a 100% garuntee of an -10 intervall add on.

    You can recast your TT99 gold fist to this: http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25981 yeah, it is G13 claws but yes, you can -0.10 int that way. Which was the point here.
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  • Fist_Mama - Harshlands
    Fist_Mama - Harshlands Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Freaking idiot

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25981







    okey then 10char
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Fist_Mama - Harshlands wrote: »
    only if u get g15 of the ****** 99 fist then its possible to get the add on WHICH IS STILL A CHANCE

    oh

    my

    god



    You are dense.

    That is a GUARANTEED stat.

    /epicfacepalm


    edit: Just stop talking, go to the forges and look for yourself.
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  • Fist_Mama - Harshlands
    Fist_Mama - Harshlands Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    oh

    my

    god



    You are dense.

    That is a GUARANTEED stat.

    /epicfacepalm

    da fak then u mite as will start off with decides
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Fist_Mama - Harshlands wrote: »
    da fak then u mite as will start off with decides

    i tak to u liek baby so u unrdernd

    99 gold fist turn to g13 claw wif -0.1 intarvel



    Since telling you over and over and over doesn't seem to help you understand.... I even went to take this screenshot. And, I'm sitting here trying to SAVE YOU 30 MILLION + COINS. Seriously... wtf.

    http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3705/99goldg13.jpg
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  • Steopie - Heavens Tear
    Steopie - Heavens Tear Posts: 576 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    i tak to u liek baby so u unrdernd

    99 gold fist turn to g13 claw wif -0.1 intarvel



    Since telling you over and over and over doesn't seem to help you understand.... I even went to take this screenshot. And, I'm sitting here trying to SAVE YOU 30 MILLION + COINS. Seriously... wtf.

    http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3705/99goldg13.jpg

    pr0 level 3 blacksmith there. b:shocked
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  • Fist_Mama - Harshlands
    Fist_Mama - Harshlands Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    i tak to u liek baby so u unrdernd

    99 gold fist turn to g13 claw wif -0.1 intarvel



    Since telling you over and over and over doesn't seem to help you understand.... I even went to take this screenshot. And, I'm sitting here trying to SAVE YOU 30 MILLION + COINS. Seriously... wtf.

    http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3705/99goldg13.jpg

    okey now im really confused i went to the forges myself

    decides=60m right
    u can turn 99 fist into g13 claws with the interval but that would cost 100 rapture's and raptures r 2mea so thats 200m+the 99fist=213m.
    so how is it cheaper?
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Steopie - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    pr0 level 3 blacksmith there. b:shocked

    I have level 7 on my cleric... *shrug*


    Fist_Mama - Harshlands wrote: »
    okey now im really confused i went to the forges myself

    decides=60m right
    u can turn 99 fist into g13 claws with the interval but that would cost 100 rapture's and raptures r 2mea so thats 200m+the 99fist=213m.
    so how is it cheaper?

    Wow...

    Do you remember saying this:
    Fist_Mama - Harshlands wrote: »
    ill eventually nirvana my claws so i guess im gonna go wit decidesb:pleased

    Then I said this:
    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Deicides = 50-70m

    99 Gold = 12-15m

    Why convert Deicides when you can convert 99 Gold and use the money from selling the deicides to refine?

    I give up.
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  • SerenityMare - Dreamweaver
    SerenityMare - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,211 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    I have level 7 on my cleric... *shrug*

    Nah, you fail. <3

    My blacksmith level will always be level 1 for OP warrior fists. =D
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    SerenityMare - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Nah, you fail. <3

    My blacksmith level will always be level 1 for OP warrior fists. =D

    You're so mean. I'm gonna torture you on msn >3
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  • Fist_Mama - Harshlands
    Fist_Mama - Harshlands Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    I have level 7 on my cleric... *shrug*





    Wow...

    Do you remember saying this:



    Then I said this:



    I give up.

    i said eventually which will probably turn out to be never. therefore its cheaper for decides
  • SerenityMare - Dreamweaver
    SerenityMare - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,211 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    You're so mean. I'm gonna torture you on msn >3

    *appears offline* =O
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Fist_Mama - Harshlands wrote: »
    i said eventually which will probably turn out to be never. therefore its cheaper for decides

    Deicides + 100 raptures will NEVER be cheaper than 99 gold + 100 raptures. EVER.

    unbelievable.

    EDIT: Wait, I understand why you don't get it...

    1) Get Deicide.

    2) When you're ready to covert to Nirvana, make 99 fists.

    3) Make Nirvana claws with 99 fists.

    4) Sell Deicides for 50-60m.

    5) You now have saved over 30 million coin and have 50-60m coin in your pocket.

    6) Use 50-60m to refine your Nirvana.



    Is that understandable now?
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  • Fist_Mama - Harshlands
    Fist_Mama - Harshlands Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Deicides + 100 raptures will NEVER be cheaper than 99 gold + 100 raptures. EVER.

    unbelievable.

    lol r u seriously slow? ill spell it out for you
    decides THE LEVEL 95 LUNAR WEAPON IS CHEAPER THAN TT99 CACTCUM BERSERKER FIST NIRVANAED. did you get it yet?
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Fist_Mama - Harshlands wrote: »
    lol r u seriously slow? ill spell it out for you
    decides THE LEVEL 95 LUNAR WEAPON IS CHEAPER THAN TT99 CACTCUM BERSERKER FIST NIRVANAED. did you get it yet?

    Wow, you're the biggest idiot I've seen here since Yulk.

    Read my edited post you moron.


    edit: omg there is 2 pages of you just being stupid.
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  • Fist_Mama - Harshlands
    Fist_Mama - Harshlands Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Wow, you're the biggest idiot I've seen here since Yulk.

    Read my edited post you moron.

    how about you think about what you post before you post it so people wount have to go back and reread your whole post AGAIN.
  • SerenityMare - Dreamweaver
    SerenityMare - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,211 Arc User
    edited October 2010
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    Fist_Mama - Harshlands wrote: »
    lol r u seriously slow? ill spell it out for you
    decides THE LEVEL 95 LUNAR WEAPON IS CHEAPER THAN TT99 CACTCUM BERSERKER FIST NIRVANAED. did you get it yet?

    You do realize that's exactly what Michael said in that quote, right? b:surrender
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