should the fish be nerfed to make pvp fair?

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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Kaidosan - Harshlands wrote: »
    listen sir. im not displaying absent remarks.
    i state the truth. i have a question, how many times r u on the forums? do u talk to people ingame?
    answer those 2 questions and get back to me when something of importance truly dawns on u.

    O.O
    That donuts be delicious.
    :o
    Also yep sins be OP.
    We has already proven the numbers, spoken from common sense, and through experience from other games with stealth.
    b:avoid

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  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    I live on the forums when I am at work b:victory

    I run two PC's for PWI so I am on double the time and talking to double the amount of toons. b:victory

    You never answered my question from before. b:shutup
    tatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
    frankieraye:All right, I admit it, it's a bit retro. lol.
  • Oneji - Heavens Tear
    Oneji - Heavens Tear Posts: 310 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    They should nerf wizards because they can 1 shot me when 3 sparked.

    They should nerf venomancers because they can have pets that can hurt me.

    They should nerf blade masters because they can use so many different weapons

    They Should nerf psychics because they are like wizards except fishes

    The should nerf barbs because they can reach 30k HP and be their own world boss

    Assassins should be nerfed because I am to lazy to level apothecary and make anti stun pots, and immunity pots, they should also be nerfed because I am to lazy to make a genie with absolute domain. And finally they should be nerfed because they can kite like a wizard and psychic except I cant see them b:shutup.

    I think you all are beginning to see my pointb:chuckle. Assassins are not over powered in anyway at all. I believe it is just the players pure laziness that says "omg they went invis I lose the fight". Instead of simply just using resources around them to make the fight much easier and much faster(I have no problem beating assassins on my level on my psychic even if I dont use immunity pots). Although if you come across a well geared smart assassin(player) in PvP, I would strongly suggest immunity pots.
  • Kaidosan - Harshlands
    Kaidosan - Harshlands Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    what question, i don't see ur question maybe u can direct me to it and be polite about it instead of trolling behind a fail of a toon that ur on now. and don't even bother calling me a fail because i don't cash shop like u. u TROLL.
  • Over_Kill - Lost City
    Over_Kill - Lost City Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Tatuaje go increase your post count some where else. b:bye If someone wants to voice their opinion why do you care. Hamsta is a good troll, you just suck.
  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Tatuaje - Lost City wrote: »
    I live on the forums when I am at work b:victory

    I run two PC's for PWI so I am on double the time and talking to double the amount of toons. b:victory

    You never answered my question from before. b:shutup

    Nuuuu! One Hamsta is enough b:cry
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Oneji - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    They should nerf wizards because they can 1 shot me when 3 sparked.

    Me stopped reading right here....
    Oneji is a horribly fail sin.
    He doesn't even has deaden nerve.
    xD
    Dralighte - Harshlands wrote: »
    Nuuuu! One Hamsta is enough b:cry

    .-.
    Okie clones, you guys can go back into storage.
    ._."

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  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Tatuaje - Lost City wrote: »
    b:chuckle

    Its been a while since the forums have been graced with such a butt hurt individual.

    And your assesment can't be any more wrong with me.

    But continue your QQ fail rant. Noone cares what your opinion is considering how you think you can talk to others.

    Oh noes, CS SIN is so over-powered. PWI change now so my CS-less WIZ can own him b:cry

    fish pops out of stealth wihth maze steps so sleep and MS are useless

    only shot for a CS wiz vs a CS sin who's useing 2 spark and wind sheild from stealthgank 5 aps would be

    AD>blink>sutra>seal>kill

    smart sin will have resist skill up so 33% of the time seal misses and you die

    you only get time for 4 spells after sutra and 1 before you blink while abuseing AD's damage imune so you need to be able to 2 shot the sin since 1st ticks charm 2nd 2 disable nerves 4th or 5th kill depending on refinement

    sage/demon evade skills considered this combo works almost 45% of the time

    depending on server lag sin will restealth before 4th spell hits and then kill you while you run for SZ or just tele stun lock you for a while then kill beforre your geni can charge for badge

    awareness pots give +30 detection demon stealth = 31 stealth

    however since wizzies have the highest gear cap in game they CAN spend 2-3x more than the sin hit intant chan under hell spark and win almost 45% of the time (assumeing ideal conditions)

    any class vs sin is about screwed if the fish is on par gear with gear and skillb:surrender
    Gifs are hard to make work here
  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    Me stopped reading right here....
    Oneji is a horribly fail sin.
    He doesn't even has deaden nerve.
    xD



    .-.
    Okie clones, you guys can go back into storage.
    ._."

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    Nonononononono
    I said, 1 Hamsta is enough. Destroy them! b:angry
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Dralighte - Harshlands wrote: »
    Nonononononono
    I said, 1 Hamsta is enough. Destroy them! b:angry

    Even clones has feelings.
    b:sad
    Besides, me can't.
    They be used for as biological containment units and also to provide occasional input.
    .-.
    Would ruin years of work.
    (>.<)'

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    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
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  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Joshcja - Sanctuary wrote: »
    fish pops out of stealth wihth maze steps so sleep and MS are useless

    only shot for a CS wiz vs a CS sin who's useing 2 spark and wind sheild from stealthgank 5 aps would be

    AD>blink>sutra>seal>kill

    smart sin will have resist skill up so 33% of the time seal misses and you die

    you only get time for 4 spells after sutra and 1 before you blink while abuseing AD's damage imune so you need to be able to 2 shot the sin since 1st ticks charm 2nd 2 disable nerves 4th or 5th kill depending on refinement

    sage/demon evade skills considered this combo works almost 45% of the time

    depending on server lag sin will restealth before 4th spell hits and then kill you while you run for SZ or just tele stun lock you for a while then kill beforre your geni can charge for badge

    awareness pots give +30 detection demon stealth = 31 stealth

    however since wizzies have the highest gear cap in game they CAN spend 2-3x more than the sin hit intant chan under hell spark and win almost 45% of the time (assumeing ideal conditions)

    any class vs sin is about screwed if the fish is on par gear with gear and skillb:surrender

    Exemple: ShojoS-> She pked an Op barb in 4 sec b:surrender
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  • Kaidosan - Harshlands
    Kaidosan - Harshlands Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    these people know what the heck they're talking about unlike that fail of a veno cash shopper saying he can kill sins his lvl. meh. that loser hasn't even gotten their 3rd spark and they're flaming me from the countless QQ threads i read and people i speak with ingame. and these r HIGH lvls DX
  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    Even clones has feelings.
    b:sad

    o.o

    What is the problem?
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    Incoming response from Tatuaje.
    o.O
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    Incoming response from Joshcja.
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    Incoming response from Dralighte.
    Dralighte - Harshlands wrote: »
    o.o

    What is the problem?

    (O.o)'
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    Even clones has feelings.
    b:sad
    Besides, me can't.
    They be used for as biological containment units and also to provide occasional input.
    .-.
    Would ruin years of work.
    (>.<)'

    O darn....
    me think me bent time.
    .-.
    again.
    (>.<)'
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
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    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
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    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
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  • Oneji - Heavens Tear
    Oneji - Heavens Tear Posts: 310 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    Me stopped reading right here....
    Oneji is a horribly fail sin.
    He doesn't even has deaden nerve.
    xD



    .-.
    Okie clones, you guys can go back into storage.
    ._."

    Incoming response from Joshcja.

    Congratulations on using your reading skills ineffectively. If you had continued reading you would have realized my post was joke to show that people QQ about every single class(Assassins are new so they are receiving their turnb:cry). Anyway Hamster I really thought even you would have realized it, but what cant I expect from some with the IQ of a hamsterb:bye(dont take this personalb:laugh).
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Oneji - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Congratulations on using your reading skills ineffectively. If you had continued reading you would have realized my post was joke to show that people QQ about every single class(Assassins are new so they are receiving their turnb:cry). Anyway Hamster I really thought even you would have realized it, but what cant I expect from some with the IQ of a hamsterb:bye(dont take this personalb:laugh).

    Me know you were joking, even fail sins get deaden nerve.
    (>.<)'
    Me suspect you didn't pick up on me sarcasm.
    b:surrender

    And it's okie.
    Me consider the IQ bit a compliment. (Humans can't even measure it accurately or correctly. lol)
    ^.^
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Oneji - Heavens Tear
    Oneji - Heavens Tear Posts: 310 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    Me know you were joking, even fail sins get deaden nerve.
    (>.<)'
    Me suspect you didn't pick up on me sarcasm.
    b:surrender

    And it's okie.
    Me consider the IQ bit a compliment.
    ^.^

    I dont believe that for one second b:surrender.

    Anyway if you really think I am a fail assassin well thats your opinion.I believe my skills surpass that of many assassins on my server. Yes I don't have uber gears and 5aps like most. But I still use my skills effectively to take out a target. I believe if I could beat 1xx barbs at level 85 then I am doing a good job learning my class.
  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Looks like Harshalnd is filled with many butthurt pvpers.

    Hey Hamsta b:victory You know noone can fill your void on the forums.

    There is always something for people to complain about when they can't be the winner all the time.

    /looks into wallet

    Yah, I'm poor and not much of a cash shopper. Where do people come up with this??? b:sad
    tatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
    frankieraye:All right, I admit it, it's a bit retro. lol.
  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    (O.o)'



    O darn....
    me think me bent time.
    .-.
    again.
    (>.<)'

    I am not your clone
    (>.<)''
    To much smexy for you D:
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Kylin: thrashtalk everyone, win TWs, serious faction -Dralighte
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Oneji - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I dont believe that for one second b:surrender.

    Anyway if you really think I am a fail assassin well thats your opinion.I believe my skills surpass that of many assassins on my server. Yes I don't have uber gears and 5aps like most. But I still use my skills effectively to take out a target. I believe if I could beat 1xx barbs at level 85 then I am doing a good job learning my class.

    You lies, me sensed belief for 2.334 seconds followed by thought for 4-8 seconds.
    b:avoid
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Oneji - Heavens Tear
    Oneji - Heavens Tear Posts: 310 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Tatuaje - Lost City wrote: »
    Looks like Harshalnd is filled with many butthurt pvpers.

    Hey Hamsta b:victory You know noone can fill your void on the forums.

    There is always something for people to complain about when they can't be the winner all the time.

    /looks into wallet

    Yah, I'm poor and not much of a cash shopper. Where do people come up with this??? b:sad

    And that is pretty much what I wanted to say in less wordsb:bye.
  • Kaidosan - Harshlands
    Kaidosan - Harshlands Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    i read what others say Tat. unlike u im not ignorant in that regard. and a poor assassin owns everyone who is poor. this is not "made up" as u put it. an assassin has more damage output per second than most classes and can expel, sleep, force stealth, immobilize etc. etc. ur main is a probably a sin because u obviously don't seem to mind how OP they r in pvp. ~exclusively one v one.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Kaidosan - Harshlands wrote: »
    i read what others say Tat. unlike u im not ignorant in that regard. and a poor assassin owns everyone who is poor. this is not "made up" as u put it. an assassin has more damage output per second than most classes and can expel, sleep, force stealth, immobilize etc. etc. ur main is a probably a sin because u obviously don't seem to mind how OP they r in pvp. ~exclusively one v one.

    Even in groups they be OP.
    Just pop out kill off a wiz, archer, cleric, psy, etc, then force stealth.
    b:surrender

    Stealth is virtually god mode in this game since there be no true aoe and everything requires a target.
    b:sweat
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    Even in groups they be OP.
    Just pop out kill off a wiz, archer, cleric, psy, etc, then force stealth.
    b:surrender

    Squishyyyyyyyyyy b:bye

    No...I mean.... Unbalanced b:chuckle

    My Clone gona speak
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Dralighte - Harshlands wrote: »
    Squishyyyyyyyyyy b:bye

    No...I mean.... Unbalanced b:chuckle

    b:chuckle
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Kaidosan - Harshlands
    Kaidosan - Harshlands Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    @Hamsta

    b:cry that's what im trying to get across and these people just don't want to hear the truth!b:sad
  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    b:chuckle

    b:victoryb:laugh (Look up)
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Kaidosan - Harshlands wrote: »
    @Hamsta

    b:cry that's what im trying to get across and these people just don't want to hear the truth!b:sad

    Lalalalala~


    Teh truth
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    They made fish OP so people would spend thousands rerolling a sin.

    Thats what ive been thinking to lol. Their plan worked as well. Everyone rerolled sin, specially the biggest cash shoppers on each server.

    They wont make sins balanced until they sucked enough coins out of all people (specially cash shop archers) re-rolling. Than i bet the will go and make stealth useless, nerf the dps on daggers and remove all crit buffs and laugh at us.
  • Oneji - Heavens Tear
    Oneji - Heavens Tear Posts: 310 Arc User
    edited September 2010
    Kaidosan - Harshlands wrote: »
    i read what others say Tat. unlike u im not ignorant in that regard. and a poor assassin owns everyone who is poor. this is not "made up" as u put it. an assassin has more damage output per second than most classes and can expel, sleep, force stealth, immobilize etc. etc. ur main is a probably a sin because u obviously don't seem to mind how OP they r in pvp. ~exclusively one v one.

    I dont know who this is toward but ok...

    Even if someones main is an assassin, it does not mean that they automatically will think "assassins are not OP because I am an assassin so I side with them". I believe people would still be unhappy even if they took assassins stealth away, because then next would come "Omg they stun lock me!!! take them away!!", well that makes the general assassin a light armored BM correct? And as for assassins being OP-OP is in the eye of the beholder in my opinion.
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