State of the Game - DQ Price

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  • _Thoren_ - Harshlands
    _Thoren_ - Harshlands Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Bump.Keepin it at the top. b:victory
  • Torsay - Sanctuary
    Torsay - Sanctuary Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    You gotta be patient with people that are lazy to type.
  • _Thoren_ - Harshlands
    _Thoren_ - Harshlands Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Must not leave first page!Bump.
  • Altros - Sanctuary
    Altros - Sanctuary Posts: 408 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    *fires bump of justice rocket*

    *bump of justice inbound*

    *rocket explodes bumping thread to top*
    "No matter how dark the world is,
    light shall exist somewhere,
    even if only a small sliver,
    a light found among darkness,
    shines all the brighter." -unknown
  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    So... I'm browsing down on my alt to my favourite grind spot at the foxwings near city of lost. And what do I see? Three freaking veno's, buzzing about with sawflies and broken weapons on macro's and not responding to anything. And I grinded there a few times and over the course of 4 days, they were there 24/7. Of course the "report ****" button did nothing.

    And same thing at towerlings. There seems to be an afk veno or someone doing a macro on that ring of them almost permanently. A year ago, a bot was a very rare thing and I hardly saw any.

    To put it short, your bot problem is FAR worse and your cut on DQ prices has done absolutely NOTHING besides irritating the community. The most likely reason bots exist in the first place is because it's impossible to make money without the cash shop and people resort to rubbish like that. PWI's greed created this issue, the players should not be made to suffer for it.
  • Roseary - Sanctuary
    Roseary - Sanctuary Posts: 978 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    the players should not be made to suffer for it.

    Then why else are we here?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • MilliaEmblem - Sanctuary
    MilliaEmblem - Sanctuary Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So... I'm browsing down on my alt to my favourite grind spot at the foxwings near city of lost. And what do I see? Three freaking veno's, buzzing about with sawflies and broken weapons on macro's and not responding to anything. And I grinded there a few times and over the course of 4 days, they were there 24/7. Of course the "report ****" button did nothing.

    And same thing at towerlings. There seems to be an afk veno or someone doing a macro on that ring of them almost permanently. A year ago, a bot was a very rare thing and I hardly saw any.

    To put it short, your bot problem is FAR worse and your cut on DQ prices has done absolutely NOTHING besides irritating the community. The most likely reason bots exist in the first place is because it's impossible to make money without the cash shop and people resort to rubbish like that. PWI's greed created this issue, the players should not be made to suffer for it.

    If you have experiences in MMORPGs, specifically F2P ones, you'll notice that they follow a similar cycle - Bait, Cash & Condemn.

    Bait - Lure a large player base with initial support in all department,

    Cash - Squeeze as much Item Mall stuffs as possible and slowly alter the game so that it is hard not to cash shop.

    Condemn - By now they'll have alot of fanbois to defend them, thus they can actively throw all sort of **** towards the player base, e.g lack of contents & communication in forum or once in a blue moon replies, lack of bug fixes and "we are working on it" excuses etc.

    I don't have a problem with cash shopping to show support but when things don't get done,
    it is like a slap in the face. Sure if i don't like it i could GTFO but since people have the right to keep playing this degrading game, i too have the right to want(or hope) its quality improve upon.

    The botting issue you have stated just shows how great PWE were in coming out with solutions. Anyone now have confidence in their up coming announcement for DQ compensation?

    Bumpity Bump~
  • Tjikkie - Raging Tide
    Tjikkie - Raging Tide Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Miugre - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Much appreciated, Kanto.

    You see? Even if you guys post a "we're working on it," we reply warmly. As I told Frankie... more communication calms everyone down and does the community good. Less communication just gets you soundbitten when you do communicate.

    ^^This

    and offcourse the bump
  • Born_Free - Harshlands
    Born_Free - Harshlands Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Psychic casts revive on topic.

    Bumpish. b:bye
  • Segreta - Sanctuary
    Segreta - Sanctuary Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    My daily Bump b:bye
    Iam Segreta,Queen of the Chicken Kingdom,proud owner of the legendary Blue Chicken,BEHOLD Mortals o,o^
    Current # Chickens:
    ^,^ <- My Cleric <3
    o,o <- My Veno
    n_n <- My Bm
    =,= <- My Barb *Used as Mount*
    >,o <- My Sin(Stealth all the time for no reason)
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    MilliaEmblem - Sanctuary wrote: »
    If you have experiences in MMORPGs, specifically F2P ones, you'll notice that they follow a similar cycle - Bait, Cash & Condemn.

    Bait - Lure a large player base with initial support in all department,

    Cash - Squeeze as much Item Mall stuffs as possible and slowly alter the game so that it is hard not to cash shop.

    Condemn - By now they'll have alot of fanbois to defend them, thus they can actively throw all sort of **** towards the player base, e.g lack of contents & communication in forum or once in a blue moon replies, lack of bug fixes and "we are working on it" excuses etc.

    I don't have a problem with cash shopping to show support but when things don't get done,
    it is like a slap in the face. Sure if i don't like it i could GTFO but since people have the right to keep playing this degrading game, i too have the right to want(or hope) its quality improve upon.

    The botting issue you have stated just shows how great PWE were in coming out with solutions. Anyone now have confidence in their up coming announcement for DQ compensation?

    Bumpity Bump~

    Wow. This is SO TRUE.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • RazorTank - Lost City
    RazorTank - Lost City Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Super bump of justice!
  • Yishuin - Sanctuary
    Yishuin - Sanctuary Posts: 153 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    bump for not leaving first page

    and thx Kanto for the post :)
  • estehector
    estehector Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I heard you ppl were bumping this thread
  • MilliaEmblem - Sanctuary
    MilliaEmblem - Sanctuary Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Trollish Bumpity bump for hope~
  • Tjikkie - Raging Tide
    Tjikkie - Raging Tide Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    In a few days we wll know what the compensation will be (or we will be told that we wont get any)

    bumps away
  • MilliaEmblem - Sanctuary
    MilliaEmblem - Sanctuary Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    cast Landslide to knock back thread to the top*
  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    When I check this thread and see it has gotten 10+ pages of posts in one night I know frankie has told us what is going to happen. b:chuckle

    I guess we will see that next week though?
    100% F2P player. Started PW: March 2007, Quit PW: March 2011.
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  • Blancheneige - Heavens Tear
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,494 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Tjikkie - Raging Tide wrote: »
    In a few days

    In PWI's language, "a few days" means a couple of months.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Thanks Brit for the sig b:laugh
  • haybails
    haybails Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    MilliaEmblem - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The botting issue you have stated just shows how great PWE were in coming out with solutions. Anyone now have confidence in their up coming announcement for DQ compensation?

    It's the parent company (PW-Beijing), the ones with the dev's that decided on the solution of reducing DQ values to npc. The solution they came up with and thus lumped on the team here and ourselves wasn't well considered. Botting here hasn't been rife. That doesn't mean that there aren't any yet I've only seen a handful at best in my 2 years here.

    If the problem is that bad in the parent version, they should have looked at ways of testing/detecting botting activity. This kind of thing has been tried on other games, a player reports (like with the hacking tab) and a retrospective test can be undertaken on the accused. This other game, out of 100 that were tested, about 92% of suspects did indeed fail and were banned. With in-game macro ability as we have, it's not so straight forward but could be achievable.

    It could easily be suggested that those in the positions of ultimate decision making in China (and the dev's), took what they saw as the easiest or safest programming option. Bearing this in mind, it really depends what Frankie and the team present as to the response. I suspect it will be a big fat no regardless but we cannot hold Frankie or any of the PWE GM's/staff here as being responsible for that.

    Frankie will keep us up to speed. Trust.
  • MilliaEmblem - Sanctuary
    MilliaEmblem - Sanctuary Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    *removed*
  • Torsay - Sanctuary
    Torsay - Sanctuary Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Yeap, interesting to see how they keep on going with this lie about compensation.
  • Promivius - Dreamweaver
    Promivius - Dreamweaver Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Well,

    I wonder which of the GM will come next telling us the same thing b:chuckle.
    You know: Soon we will inform you about the compensation etc etc.

    We had Frankie now Kanto gamble away their credibility about this issue...

    Wonder when the next GM steps up to gamble his/hers away too.

    Ooh yeah.. Bump!
    I speak for myself. My opinions are my own.
    Assuming I speak for others is therefor void.
  • Segreta - Sanctuary
    Segreta - Sanctuary Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    My daily bump
    b:bye
    Iam Segreta,Queen of the Chicken Kingdom,proud owner of the legendary Blue Chicken,BEHOLD Mortals o,o^
    Current # Chickens:
    ^,^ <- My Cleric <3
    o,o <- My Veno
    n_n <- My Bm
    =,= <- My Barb *Used as Mount*
    >,o <- My Sin(Stealth all the time for no reason)
  • _Roflcopterz - Sanctuary
    _Roflcopterz - Sanctuary Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    MilliaEmblem - Sanctuary wrote: »
    *removed*

    Interesting, an edit by frankie. So you guys are definitely reading all of this.

    A good compensation would be to return the prices to normal. I can guarantee if you guys researched into it, you'd find the amount of botting hasn't diminished in the slightest. I see (and report) bots almost daily at certain areas.

    PWI's plan failed. Tough luck, sorry. Now put it back please? =/
  • frankieraye
    frankieraye Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    _Roflcopterz - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Interesting, an edit by frankie. So you guys are definitely reading all of this.

    A good compensation would be to return the prices to normal. I can guarantee if you guys researched into it, you'd find the amount of botting hasn't diminished in the slightest. I see (and report) bots almost daily at certain areas.

    PWI's plan failed. Tough luck, sorry. Now put it back please? =/


    As stated in the original news post, the change was made for the PW-CN version, not ours. We freely admit that the change wasn't fair to you guys as there was no real botting problem to fix here. This was the reasoning behind promising compensation, and why we continue to work toward it right now.
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    ^That is good to hear i hope something come out of all this.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • RazorTank - Lost City
    RazorTank - Lost City Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Senior bump
  • MilliaEmblem - Sanctuary
    MilliaEmblem - Sanctuary Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    MilliaEmblem - Sanctuary wrote: »
    *removed*


    oh nuu i'm being muted b:chuckle Bumpity Bump~
  • Segreta - Sanctuary
    Segreta - Sanctuary Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    My Daily Bump
    b:bye
    Iam Segreta,Queen of the Chicken Kingdom,proud owner of the legendary Blue Chicken,BEHOLD Mortals o,o^
    Current # Chickens:
    ^,^ <- My Cleric <3
    o,o <- My Veno
    n_n <- My Bm
    =,= <- My Barb *Used as Mount*
    >,o <- My Sin(Stealth all the time for no reason)

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