Would you like 2x back?

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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    2x?

    No.

    Why?
    Cause everyone wants it easy nowadays. You give them something special and they expect it and more. Next thing youll know theyll want 3x cause PW Japan is having it now.
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  • _Pale - Sanctuary
    _Pale - Sanctuary Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    sure 2x drops is nice.
    Economy doesn't crash, it just changes for the people who play merchant right now.
    PWI doesn't make money from the drops.
    But, if there are people buying stuff in auction, there will also be other people buying gold to buy boutique stuff. And some of this stuff will be bought because people know they can sell it later

    2x drops in the end isn't that bad for PWI, nor for the players, just bad for players who try to play merchant in-game and for whom this is their main source of income.
    When you got a lot to lose, you don't like change very much. It means you have a lot, or profit from the situation as it is now, you become conservative. So maybe they could count their blessings, be happy the gravy train ran as long as it did, and find something new.
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  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Bummer that this was moved, because it wasn't a suggestion. It was simply a poll to see who wanted it back or not.
    >_>
  • KomamuraSaji - Heavens Tear
    KomamuraSaji - Heavens Tear Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Ophida - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    No.

    2x exp - easy enough to level with dailies and FC runs etc. Why does it need to be made easier?
    2x drops - prolonged periods crashes economy.


    U dare to call this Economy ? 400-500k for 1 darn gold?
    i say yes for that. it drops mat prices and ppl who cant spend rl money in. can get those mats via drops bit faster. this ur called economy is corrupted allready. 2x drops only helps non cashshoppers.
  • _Luna_Shadow - Sanctuary
    _Luna_Shadow - Sanctuary Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    see thats exactly why they SHOULD add 2x and keep hypers in there would make it easier for the more...lazier people of PWI because i really cant be bothered doing boring quests or really long FCC runs or boring stuff like that to get like...0.1% exp all the time....2x ftw
  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Going to bump this since Frankie mistakingly moved it thinking it was a suggestion.
    I still want to see more opinions please.
    ^^
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Double drops can be great events, but it's supposed to be done sparingly and for short periods of times.


    A x2 drop rate for a weekend once every few months doesn't have too bad of an impact on the economy and can be quite nice.

    But when it's done as frequently as ours are, and lasting as long as ours do, that's when the problems begin.



    I vote no, it's been to recent since our last one.
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  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Double drops can be great events, but it's supposed to be done sparingly and for short periods of times.


    A x2 drop rate for a weekend once every few months doesn't have too bad of an impact on the economy and can be quite nice.

    But when it's done as frequently as ours are, and lasting as long as ours do, that's when the problems begin.



    I vote no, it's been to recent since our last one.

    Very well put.
    If it were every other month for a weekend, that'd probably be perfectly fine.
    But like you said, we've gotten several within a few months.
  • Jenovadeath - Lost City
    Jenovadeath - Lost City Posts: 217 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    KonariRaiden wrote: »
    I voted yes, but only on the condition that it applies to world map normal mobs only (+ Heaven/Hell)

    I b:heart grinding. b:dirty

    b:victory couldnt have said it better myself
  • ValenaHaiko - Heavens Tear
    ValenaHaiko - Heavens Tear Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Jenovadeath - Lost City wrote: »
    b:victory couldnt have said it better myself

    I agree on this one. Promote grinding.
  • Thelas_Carr - Sanctuary
    Thelas_Carr - Sanctuary Posts: 448 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Voted no... I'm a regular (but small-time) cash-shopper, so drop-rates don't really affect me one way or the other, but many of my guild mates do not cash-shop at all. They depend on being able to sell their DQ drops to NPC merchants and sell their TT mats and Legendary molds to other players. What I observed from the extedned 2-week period of double-drops after the Facebook contest was that the price for TT mats and Legendary molds dropped to levels I'd never seen before (been playing for 11 months now). That's great as a buyer but doube-drops have been over for a good while now and item prices have not really recovered which is brutal on sellers.

    Double-drops lowers the price of items for a much longer period of time than the event itself. This is bad for those who do not cash-shop and must grind to earn their coins (i.e., the sellers of TT mats and Leg molds). The only way it would be good is if the drop rates were permanently doubled, which would still result in depressed prices but at least a new equilibrium might be achieved sooner instead of boom & bust economic cycles that temporary 2x events inject into the game.

    So no on double-drops... Definite no on double EXP and double Spirit--as others have said it's already too easy to get those through daily BH/CS/WQ.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Double exp and coin rewards from actual quests. Make people grind for it. lol
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  • Caeria - Heavens Tear
    Caeria - Heavens Tear Posts: 294 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    No more 2x for anything for the next 6 months or so would be nice.

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  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    -Sighs-
    Moved again....
  • Hhlolz - Harshlands
    Hhlolz - Harshlands Posts: 574 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    No, however almost all drop rates need adjustment.

    TT droprate is right on target.

    FF droprate is about 1/10th of what it should be

    Lunar droprate is about 1/2 of what it should be

    Nirvana droprate is about 1/4 of what it should be

    World map mobs droprate varies from on target from level 1-90 to way low on 90+

    Worldboss droprate is about 1/3 of what it should be

    Heaven/Hell droprate is about 1/3 what it should be

    OHT droprate is about 1/2 what it should be

    Unicorn Forest droprate is about 1/3 to 1/4 of what it should be

    Valley of the Scarred droprate is about 3x what it should be

    Moonshade Desert Droprate is about 1/5 of what it should be

    FB droprate is about 3/4 of what it should be for most and 1/5 what it should be for book drops on the last bosses of Abaddon and Seat of Torment

    Did I miss any regions?

    But if they adjust nothing, yaay as well.

    Oops, forgot the exp factor: No, exp rates on many things should be reduced... I still want a basic server. http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=7919192&postcount=28

    You seem to be new to this game, and you never been in 3-x.
    Drop rates there are like 1/2 - 1/3 of what it should be tbh.
    Please remember that non-cser want to get hh99 gold as well, which means way higher drop rate of gold mats, cuz first of all; greens arent worth anything so if u dont get gold u wasted all of ur time, and second; 3-3 takes too long to go with 3-4 people so you need a full squad, which means if 1 or 2 lucky golds drop you still wont get a chance to have it.
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  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    One way to make it less of a grindfest while still gaining decent coin would be to add a coin daily, instead of just exp/spirit dailies. Or a repeatable quest like Public Quest or whatever. They shouldn't be necessarily "fast", i.e should require time to spend, but they should be worth more than grinding for the equivalent time coin-wise, not gimped. Would make people focus on those instead of grinding, making the game more fun, more challenging (grinding is a piece of absolute boredom cake) and with a purpose other than just killing random mobs who respawn.

    All repeatable/daily quests are absolutely gimped coin-wise in rewards.

    Normal quests are not enough because they cannot be repeated.
  • Erratic - Lost City
    Erratic - Lost City Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    ^ agreed :)
  • Kotecek - Lost City
    Kotecek - Lost City Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Hell YES!

    But only for 2x drop rate, no need really 2x exp

    2x drop rate because of -20% of DQs price and lower drop rate at higher lvls.

    Really, GMs should do from time to time 2x drop rate. Idk, maybe 1 day in week or somethng o.O
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  • Orlin - Dreamweaver
    Orlin - Dreamweaver Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I think they should increase just the drop rate on the world map because i could grind for an hour and only get bout 30k worth of drops. That is really bad when you are a high level with bad gear and bad skills cause i cant afford to get new stuff.
  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Thank you Frankie for moving this back (Again)
    Going to bump this (Again) since I still wanna see peoples thoughts.

    PS: THIS IS NOT A SUGGESTION. PLEASE STOP MOVING IT.
  • FoxRunning - Heavens Tear
    FoxRunning - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    YES! now that would really be something to get me back in the game, seriously working on leveling.
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  • Cy_clone - Heavens Tear
    Cy_clone - Heavens Tear Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Voted No too but i doubt this poll will have much effect on the outcome.
    The devs promised something to "compensate for the DQ price drop" so this will surely happen.
  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Cy_clone - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Voted No too but i doubt this poll will have much effect on the outcome.
    The devs promised something to "compensate for the DQ price drop" so this will surely happen.

    Glad to see a lower level person said no.
  • FateMakerr - Heavens Tear
    FateMakerr - Heavens Tear Posts: 953 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Glad to see a lower level person said no.

    You never know! May be forum mind tricks!!D:
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  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    FateMakerr - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You never know! May be forum mind tricks!!D:

    That'd quite upset me.
    But still.
    I'm sure a huge majority of the votes on the poll are from lower level people.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    2x drops, only in 3-3 kthx b:pleased
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  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    2x drops, only in 3-3 kthx b:pleased

    Nirvana 2x drops?
    :o
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Nirvana 2x drops?
    :o
    you want more 100s to pwn you?? >_>;
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Honestly I think we shouldn't have it, some people will practically live off of it.


    today I heard someone that just hit 90 say they were going to wait for double drops to farm their gear. All the time I hear "wanna do a TT?" "nah, I'm just gonna wait for x2 drops"

    some people these days are so lazy they practically rely on x2 drops.
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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Honestly I think we shouldn't have it, some people will practically live off of it.

    some people these days are so lazy they practically rely on x2 drops.

    EXACTLY!

    People are just getting lazy to help. >:/
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