Would you like 2x back?

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  • ValenaHaiko - Heavens Tear
    ValenaHaiko - Heavens Tear Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    A big NO.

    See the effect that it has...
    1. Prolonged economy recession.
    2. People are forcing themselves to play during the period, resulting them to get burned-out right after. You can see even west archo is starting to be like a ghost town.... only Cat Shops everywhere, but hardly any active players around.

    Furthermore, during that period, people are only interested in farming materials, or just simply do FF non-stop, like an addict.

    And once they leveled up so fast, they all of a sudden found out that there is not much to do anymore, and many started to lose interest.

    You probably have seen the thread asking "Is there anymore to do after this?"... the 2x is one of the factors that contribute to this.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I've recently had a change of heart.

    Come to think of it I think I might too... I really need to farm a couple dozen +10 orbs and it'll be a lot easier to do with 2x drops.
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  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I enjoy how the lower levels say yes, and higher levels say no.
    :)
  • PequetteV - Lost City
    PequetteV - Lost City Posts: 1,202 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    im high and i say yes and with -20% dq drop i say big yes



    or just raise dq drop and hh drop
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  • Choze - Dreamweaver
    Choze - Dreamweaver Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    My greed says yes, but my common sense says no.

    As previously mentioned, 2x drops are nice once in awhile, but over exposure leads to a very bad economy, and people just plain feeling burnt out. After this last 2x event many people I know either took some time off from the game, or just didn't want to run things like TT's because they tried to get as much as they could during the event. That can really stink for players just reaching the level for quest in those instances.

    I think we've all noticed how out of whack the market for mats/gear became due to 2x event.

    Yes we should have another 2x event in the future, but it's way too soon right now IMO.
  • ValenaHaiko - Heavens Tear
    ValenaHaiko - Heavens Tear Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Choze - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    My greed says yes, but my common sense says no.

    As previously mentioned, 2x drops are nice once in awhile, but over exposure leads to a very bad economy, and people just plain feeling burnt out. After this last 2x event many people I know either took some time off from the game, or just didn't want to run things like TT's because they tried to get as much as they could during the event. That can really stink for players just reaching the level for quest in those instances.

    I think we've all noticed how out of whack the market for mats/gear became due to 2x event.

    Yes we should have another 2x event in the future, but it's way too soon right now IMO.

    Good observation.
  • lost0716
    lost0716 Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I vote to normalize drop rates...like double the DQ mats but cut the price in half...give something better than 90 coins from boss drops...and fix FC so that gears can be forged
  • Born_Again_ - Sanctuary
    Born_Again_ - Sanctuary Posts: 391 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    If they lower DQ prices, i say make the 2x permanent is the only way to go. b:thanks
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  • sleepcat
    sleepcat Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Why settle for x2 when we can get...x4? b:laugh
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  • PequetteV - Lost City
    PequetteV - Lost City Posts: 1,202 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    sleepcat wrote: »
    Why settle for x2 when we can get...x4? b:laugh

    2x is enough some of us want little bit chalenge but not having to waste lot time getting gear.... 2x is good rate
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  • JollyJaguar - Sanctuary
    JollyJaguar - Sanctuary Posts: 431 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    No. Just no.

    They screwed up my income source.. TT2-X mats dont sell anymore..
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  • chelseacraft
    chelseacraft Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Double XP/Spirit/Drops is EXACTLY why PWI is implementing reduced DQ resell prices & having to create more coin drains to the game.

    Does ANYONE who plays this game have a clue about game economy?

    For those ignorant of the facts: Just like in real life, you can't just keep making more money & dumping it into the economy. There has to be a way the money comes back out of the game.

    For those of you who can't wrap your brains around why that is a FACT. Just do what you always do... leave the thinking to those who are capable.

    Thank you.
  • Clercie - Sanctuary
    Clercie - Sanctuary Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    nice grinding parties and more money and exp (:
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  • Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary
    Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary Posts: 914 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I dont even farm TT for money anymore. After spending my time in there during 2x, I got bored of it. It's not just about the money making for me. It's about the entertainment too. About the only boss I still get entertainment out of soloing is Astral Walker in 2-2. But, I hardly ever get drops.
    >.<
  • KingTank - Heavens Tear
    KingTank - Heavens Tear Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    hmm they should go back to the old drop rates when this game opened, they really lowered it quiet bad. They did it prob because they wanted more people to CS lol
  • kerenta
    kerenta Posts: 44
    edited May 2010
    Yes. Even double rates won't help you much at higher lvls when you get 0.03% / kill, but there is a difference and it gives me motivation to grind. Plus the extra drops are good.
  • WingedXepher - Dreamweaver
    WingedXepher - Dreamweaver Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Yes plz, so i can finish with my gear.
  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Born_Again_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    If they lower DQ prices, i say make the 2x permanent is the only way to go. b:thanks

    Uninstall please.
  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    KingTank - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    hmm they should go back to the old drop rates when this game opened, they really lowered it quiet bad. They did it prob because they wanted more people to CS lol

    Yeah... Old drop rates were reasonable
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  • Egaenil - Heavens Tear
    Egaenil - Heavens Tear Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    b:sad plz not 2 x event, make TT mats worth something, so no cser can at least make a living
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  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    131 Yes.
    46 No.
    b:sad
  • OBOY - Sanctuary
    OBOY - Sanctuary Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    having another 2x would be a great idea becuase most of the players would benefit from it, i mean sure a few high levels wont be able to sell AE soul for 19m to lower levels anymore but thats ok at least there would be more ppl who would finally be able to get the mats they need on there own, would be more ppl with updated gears/weapons and would make tw alot more interestingb:laughb:victory
  • Nakhimov - Lost City
    Nakhimov - Lost City Posts: 1,829 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary wrote: »
    131 Yes.
    46 No.
    b:sad

    And people wonder why this game is in the state it is b:surrender
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  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    OBOY - Sanctuary wrote: »
    having another 2x would be a great idea becuase most of the players would benefit from it, i mean sure a few high levels wont be able to sell AE soul for 19m to lower levels anymore but thats ok at least there would be more ppl who would finally be able to get the mats they need on there own, would be more ppl with updated gears/weapons and would make tw alot more interestingb:laughb:victory

    After a level 100 has said this, I kind of want to uninstall even more now...
  • OBOY - Sanctuary
    OBOY - Sanctuary Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary wrote: »
    After a level 100 has said this, I kind of want to uninstall even more now...

    WWWAAAIIIITTTT!!!! umm cani have all your money and items befor you go plsb:bye
  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    OBOY - Sanctuary wrote: »
    WWWAAAIIIITTTT!!!! umm cani have all your money and items befor you go plsb:bye

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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    After this DQ nerf thing, I'm 100% support this. 2x drops would be cool.
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  • Borsuc - Raging Tide
    Borsuc - Raging Tide Posts: 1,526 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    chelseacraft wrote: »
    Double XP/Spirit/Drops is EXACTLY why PWI is implementing reduced DQ resell prices & having to create more coin drains to the game.

    Does ANYONE who plays this game have a clue about game economy?

    For those ignorant of the facts: Just like in real life, you can't just keep making more money & dumping it into the economy. There has to be a way the money comes back out of the game.

    For those of you who can't wrap your brains around why that is a FACT. Just do what you always do... leave the thinking to those who are capable.

    Thank you.
    Hey Einstein explain to me how pumping more money into the GAME economy affects the SKILL prices and NPC prices?

    How does it affect people who farm their gear FOR THEMSELVES, not to SELL it?

    Seems to me you have no clue what you are talking about. Inflation is not bad by any means, because a LOT of things would come off easier -- the static ones -- while the "player trading" ones will simply shift.

    If you get 2x times as much, and everything costs 2x as much from PLAYERS, it's the same right?

    well, if you get 2x the amount of mats in TT and coins from grinding, that would actually MAKE IT EASIER to get your gear and upgrade your skills, both of which are STATIC in numbers.

    Like you said, leave the thinking for those who actually look at the game, not at half-assed analogies.
  • Airyll - Dreamweaver
    Airyll - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,882 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Let's get something clear:

    At this point, 2x EXP/spirit/drops doesn't matter.

    DQ prices have just been nerfed by 20% - meaning that to have a 2x drops event really doesn't matter any more because there's little point grinding to get these drops.

    TT prices are already screwed. Their prices would have slowly lost their value over time, but the recent few 2x weeks have caused their value to drop significantly in a far shorter amount of time. I remember when I first started considering 90 armor in my late 8x levels, GBAs were about 800k. Now you're lucky to sell them if you charge 600k.

    2x drops wouldn't drastically change anything by this point in terms of drops, because it already has.

    If you want x2 EXP/spirit... why not go charge one million coins so you can get six hours worth of x3 or whatever the rates are? I mean, sure it's not free, but that's the company's whole aim. It's not supposed to be free.

    No, I do not want a week, a day or even an hour of 2x anything. It's ruined the game to the point it wouldn't matter, but that doesn't mean that we should cry for it back just because it's already screwed the game and rapidly decreased the value of most things beyond all reason.
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  • _Leiian_ - Heavens Tear
    _Leiian_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 206 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary wrote: »
    After a level 100 has said this, I kind of want to uninstall even more now...

    seems to me a nice thing. U've to know that a lvl 100 bm with a good gear is just a lil bored of killing a lot of noobs in TW. Good tws are that ones lasting at least 1 hour.

    And hum, after all, 2x is good for all "noobs", for lvling faster an alt, for getting a tt gear faster, for helping ppl in the endgame to make their tt99.
    And then, a 2x drops lasting about 1-2 months will cause that a lot of ppl will run tts just for their mats, and not to selling them.
    According to this fact, ur hated venos that wanna make coins from soloing TTs, wont make coins. If everyone has his tt gear, or a chance to do it faster, noone will buy tt mats. ^_^

    If someone's QQing about hyper exp stones+training esoterica+2x exp, uhm, make an alt and use them, too :)
    xD

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