TW? Who Cares?

Strife_son - Sanctuary

I'm inclined to disagree Ash. Sadly all I see BM's doing is Heaven's Flame and Bramble Rage. Not exactly the quality pk'rs like there once was before genies and insane gear. I never said there weren't any good BM's left... just quality has declined quite a bit in my eyes =3

TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide

Strife_son - Sanctuary wrote: »

I'm inclined to disagree Ash. Sadly all I see BM's doing is Heaven's Flame and Bramble Rage. Not exactly the quality pk'rs like there once was before genies and insane gear. I never said there weren't any good BM's left... just quality has declined quite a bit in my eyes =3

It's so stupid > I mean why nerf an OP genie skill ( TS ) only to get an even more OP one ( bramble rage) that's aoe too .

ZzzKyantezzz - Sanctuary

This is why I used to be a support bm b:victory

Strife_son - Sanctuary

TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide wrote: »

It's so stupid > I mean why nerf an OP genie skill ( TS ) only to get an even more OP one ( bramble rage) that's aoe too .

Apparently BR was always pretty OP... it only got more so when they changed genies to make adding dex and str worth something. Wouldn't know, never used bramble rage on any genie of mine =o

TS was fun for killing people who ran away in TW. I remember killing venos with it in Nef TW's. LOLlightningbolt bzbzbzbbzzzz

Tsumama - Sanctuary

what was the topic again o.o

Legend - Raging Tide

Is thedan's fail faction still alive?

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Legend - Raging Tide wrote: »

Is thedan's fail faction still alive?

so far hes holding record for longest active leader of an active faction out of all the quitters on our server so id say yes

Legend - Raging Tide

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

so far hes holding record for longest active leader of an active faction out of all the quitters on our server so id say yes

axe hp bms still fail b:lipcurl

Accel - Raging Tide

Legend - Raging Tide wrote: »

axe hp bms still fail b:lipcurl

Kalza you fail! Though the new fad is interval fist/claw bm.. Since every BM on this server is running around with Deicide claws.. even sage BMs.. b:chuckle

Asbella - Sanctuary

I started playing this back in nov 08 under a alt called Kassina and i would like to say I had a lot of fun reading ur post and seeing all the old names that I used to see in wc the comments and arguments still make me smile.. unlike the childish 1s I get to read in wc now.

Shandelzare - Sanctuary

Strife_son - Sanctuary wrote: »

I'm inclined to disagree Ash. Sadly all I see BM's doing is Heaven's Flame and Bramble Rage. Not exactly the quality pk'rs like there once was before genies and insane gear. I never said there weren't any good BM's left... just quality has declined quite a bit in my eyes =3

Skill died when genies were introduced. The flooded market doesn't help either.

Quilue - Sanctuary

i do believe dan has restated to use claws

Thelas_Carr - Sanctuary

I thought it might be amusing to bring this back to the OP, although I admit that drifitng topics are amusing in and of themselves at times! ^_^

Darkette - Sanctuary wrote: »

In Sanctuary, TWs have become irrelevant.

PWI has decided to do a switcheroo on the rules. Supposedly, no single faction should hold more than one major territory, but that rule has never been enforced. Thus, Nefarious is free to game the system; whereby, they can allow a few meager territories to be held by other factions and avoid resetting the map.

For the vast majority of us, TW is indeed irrelevant because PWI has circumvented its own rules; thus, a significant component of the game has been eliminated.

The rules for territory wars are posted by PWI here. No where is it stated that a single faction is limitd to holding only 1 major territory. The closest rule to what you're claiming is Rule #1 under Declarinign War: 1. Your guild can only attack one territory per week. That's attack, not hold/defend. There is no mention anywhere of a map reset should one faction acquire all the territories of the map--that's some mythical rumor, not a rule.

Darkette - Sanctuary wrote: »

My question is why would PWI purposely sabotage its own game?

As noted above, there's no sabotage... the few rules that are stated are actually in place.

Darkette - Sanctuary wrote: »

How many players have quit because their interest in TWs was completely thwarted?

The QQers who quit do not outweigh those who suport the game through purchases of Zen or the marketing team would be working with the devs to ensure continued profitability. If you quit, but you were not a big buyer of Zen, why would PWI care?

Darkette - Sanctuary wrote: »

How much revenue has PWI lost?

PWE is never likely to disclose this to you, but as noted above, the bottom line is profitability and that means people who buy Zen to get gold which in turn allows them to acquire +10 armor and +12 weapons of grade 12 (or higher?). A dragon orb ocean, which only ensures success for a +10 refine costs 75 gold = $75 USD... Given the amount of +10 or higher gear I see on Nef players, I'd think PWI is doing just fine with revenue with respect to TW, which in turn is a very small component of the game. For other factions to have ANY chance of competing against Nef, they too must have the majority of their forces invest lots of Zen so that they have comparable gear. Without that investment, they have no chance as noted in post #65 of this thread.

Darkette - Sanctuary wrote: »

I'd really like a response from PWI.

Why would they bother to answer you when you don't have a technical problem or a customer service issue (and if you did have either of those issues you'd submit a support ticket)? Engaging end-users in open discussion is probably against company policy because there's no added-value to profitability and can only make them look bad unless it was a premeditated response, approved by the higher ups.

avalon2008

There definetely should be a limit of territories one faction can own.

Strife_son - Sanctuary

Nah it should just be like other games where the land holding faction has to defend their land more than once a week. In another game fortress battles would happen 2-3 times a day, and while a monopoly was possible, it was definitely a challenge.

The way TW is set-up in this game basically encourages the people who can spend the most money to gather into a group and hold the map, granting them another major source of revenue. The dynamics of TW is already fairly limited. Three static paths yada yada. TW today is basically about who can steam-roll the other the fastest, with almost no real need for an actual strategy; unless the opponent is on somewhat more even footing.

Simply stated, this game is too easy. Nef doesn't really have to do anything other than show up to defend any single land on the weekends only. I highly doubt 150+ people in Nef would bother to show up to defend lands everyday. Not to mention the financial strain this would actually put on them to maintain supremacy. Since a majority of them only care about maximizing profit over minimal time input, it would probably be a waste for some to show up to defend more than a couple times a week.

__Undertaker - Sanctuary

I agree a change in TW system is definitely in order. There should be no 5 mins TWs.

Quilue - Sanctuary

Weekly attacks from wraiths as suggested by someone in suggestion discussion a long time ago might be interesting. Make it so that super-hard mob would only attack a territory not bid on, randomly attack multiple times a weekend and can share timeslots with 3 other attackers.

You would presumably get some sort of monetary reward in the end, but it would mean that you'd have to devote a squad or two to the wraith attack or lose your territory. once taken over by wraiths, the land is up for grabs by any faction in a PvE TW. the wraiths...well...just use FCC and TT bosses or something. lol...

SUPER!
AWESOME!
WHIRLING!
SLASH!

combined with

Reign of Frost!

and

Hatred is like a cloud in the sky (whatever that means)

and how can we forget about

Nice...Fresh blood!

b:chuckle

Joshcja - Sanctuary

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

Weekly attacks from wraiths as suggested by someone in suggestion discussion a long time ago might be interesting. Make it so that super-hard mob would only attack a territory not bid on, randomly attack multiple times a weekend and can share timeslots with 3 other attackers.

You would presumably get some sort of monetary reward in the end, but it would mean that you'd have to devote a squad or two to the wraith attack or lose your territory. once taken over by wraiths, the land is up for grabs by any faction in a PvE TW. the wraiths...well...just use FCC and TT bosses or something. lol...

SUPER!
AWESOME!
WHIRLING!
SLASH!

combined with

Reign of Frost!

and

Hatred is like a cloud in the sky (whatever that means)

and how can we forget about

Nice...Fresh blood!

b:chuckle

that would be so much winb:thanks

Spinna - Sanctuary

A wraith attack that attack a random territory every week on any of the seven days of the week.

For now it would most likely be Nef.

Nefarious deciding TW team leaders could let this fight go if it happens at the same time has a three attacking faction day. Then the week after they attack the land they loss and keep steam rolling factions that attack them. The one land attack by a wraith they let it go. Sure they won't have domination of the land but they'll get all others but one !

Now, what if the land attacked by that "uber" mobs isn't in Nefarious possession. people will be pissed, because they don't have as manylands as Nefarious does. Yet the PWI Dev Team can't be arbitrary on their decision and make it attack only Nef, that would be unfair and disrespectful. Game has to be equal for everyone.

And it is equal, you all have the opportunity to ruin yourself in real life on the boutique for a game and you all have the opportunity to cease having a real life to spend it on a game that will disappear one day. And you'll still be talking about it with your geek friends. While the rest of the planet made reality as it would be then.

And if you need a super-ultra-mega whatever mobs/boss to do the work that should be yours to complete then perhaps you're not made for a competition game...

How does it feel to see your idea being destroyed in a few lines ?

Lycanthar - Sanctuary

boo this thread was dead for 10 days, how dare you necro! b:shockedb:laugh

Spinna - Sanctuary

Lycanthar - Sanctuary wrote: »

boo this thread was dead for 10 days, how dare you necro! b:shockedb:laugh

Can't let people live in the dark, with fake hope and unrealistic options now can we ?