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Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »they could start by chillaxing with the sales.. did gold prices not go down to like 300-350k when they first took out packs?
but what did pwi do? they put it back, and then gold jumped up again..
PWI is not a charity, that is why. Current gold prices are not that bad. You could get a part time job at minimun wage, and after taxes you could still buy 6 gold per hour. At current gold prices that translates to 2.4million in-game coins. It is really not that much coin, bth.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »sure as hell better than it is currently, Id be happy if the devs at least TRY to help.. instead of ignore the problem
edit: going home toodles
It will level out...these boxes will be here till January.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!
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IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »PWI is not a charity, that is why. Current gold prices are not that bad. You could get a part time job at minimun wage, and after taxes you could still buy 6 gold per hour. At current gold prices that translates to 2.4million in-game coins. It is really not that much coin, bth.
example: washington's is 8.55 USD/hr
wyoming is 5.15
tenessee follows federal lol.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
advice to fledgling archers:
Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.0 -
It's easier to make a +10 weapon from a 9, big woop. You still have to make a +9, +8, and so on to get there. Funny how a huge sale like this, which most people would never get anyways, would turn into a QQfest about gold prices. We need a facepalm emoticon.0
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WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »you should check what state youre in before giving numbers, minimum is a state decided thing if it wants to be higher or lower than federal rate
example: washington's is 8.55 USD/hr
wyoming is 5.15
tenessee follows federal lol.
That helps my case even more. If they were making 5.15 per hour, once you remove taxes, social security, etc, than they would be able to buy 3-4 gold. At current gold prices, that would mean they could get 1.2mil-1.6mil coins. So one hour of RL work would not even pay for one GBA...... That is hardly what I would call overpriced gold.... With gold at last year's rate, they would get 300k-400k for one hour of RL work... heck I can grind more than than in that hour....Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »That helps my case even more. If they were making 5.15 per hour, once you remove taxes, social security, etc, than they would be able to buy 3-4 gold. At current gold prices, that would mean they could get 1.2mil-1.6mil coins. So one hour of RL work would not even pay for one GBA...... That is hardly what I would call overpriced gold.... With gold at last year's rate, they would get 300k-400k for one hour of RL work... heck I can grind more than than in that hour....
you could always hunt them, or farm for $. leveling = $__$[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
advice to fledgling archers:
Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.0 -
WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »sucks for your server ]: gba are like easily found for 1-1.2 here.
you could always hunt them, or farm for $. leveling = $__$
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Lost me[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!
"Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous0 -
WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »sucks for your server ]: gba are like easily found for 1-1.2 here.
you could always hunt them, or farm for $. leveling = $__$
1-1.2mil is not what I would call cheap either for a green mat lolToo often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
money eyes :P
like those dumb o__o kinds of faces people make. $___$[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
advice to fledgling archers:
Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.0 -
RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »There really is nothing that they can do about the Gold prices anyways...
As long as people are buying, the price will stay where it is at.
I agree. Players determine the price of gold and "Game masters" are not justified to take any any action about it. They cannot force a player to change prices and control what other players do.IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »They could start banning all those free-players that use coin to buy gold at high prices, short of that, I am not sure what else they could do.
That's awesome lol. I digress, Unfortunately banning people can be a legal situation fast, which is why it takes divine intervention for someone to get banned :<Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »they could start by chillaxing with the sales.. did gold prices not go down to like 300-350k when they first took out packs? but what did pwi do? they put it back, and then gold jumped up again..IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »PWI is not a charity, that is why. Current gold prices are not that bad. You could get a part time job at minimun wage, and after taxes you could still buy 6 gold per hour. At current gold prices that translates to 2.4million in-game coins. It is really not that much coin, bth.
No sales, No interest, No buyers, No money = no game eventually. They have to keep the game interesting and they have to make money. They can't chillax with sales the same way fast food companies can't chillax with making burgers.
Ah thank you so much everyone for your intelligence on these matters and your communion as well. Part of the reason I continue to play PWI is to enjoy the forums and discuss some game issues and share PWI media with people on Youtube. I believe if someone read all my posts about these issues, I have established a concrete foundation for which I feel my viewpoint has been expressed and galvanized. I will not continue to watch this thread.
Again thank you all so much, This has been an enriching thread for me. I hope to party with sanctuary users and best wishes to other players within the other servers.
Regards
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IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »PWI is not a charity, that is why. Current gold prices are not that bad. You could get a part time job at minimun wage, and after taxes you could still buy 6 gold per hour. At current gold prices that translates to 2.4million in-game coins. It is really not that much coin, bth.
6 GOLD per HOUR ?
well...
thinking to work to support the berserk purchasing is just...b:surrenderb:cold
guys, live your lives, this is just a game, and tbh we're getting fooled once again...i earned my money during summer, and even if im just 20yr is find ridiculus just to thought that way....
CMON b:shocked[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
...i guarantee you, YOUR CHILDREN WILL NOT SEE THE DAY OF YOUR WHITE HAIRS...GOODBYE BLUE SKY (and PW too)
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GohRaL - Sanctuary wrote: »guys, live your lives, this is just a game, and tbh we're getting fooled once again...i earned my money during summer, and even if im just 20yr is find ridiculus just to thought that way....
CMON b:shocked
We know it is a game...
How are we being fooled?
Good for you for making $$ over the summer...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!
"Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous0 -
GohRaL - Sanctuary wrote: »6 GOLD per HOUR
well...
thinking to work to support the berserk purchasing is just...b:surrenderb:cold
b:shocked
I was just trying to illustrate that the amount of coin you pay in-game for gold is not that much, when you take into consideration how much it takes to make the money in RL. I used minimun wage, since, that would be the amount someone that never had a job before would be making (most likely).
When you think that 1 hour of RL sucky job (since not many minimun wage jobs are not sucky) only gets you between 1.2million coins and 2.4million coins of in-game money (depending if you get $5 per hour or $8), it is hard to say that gold is very overpriced.
Now keep in mind that in order to work that one hour, the person needs to get ready for work, get to work, etc, so you really "work" far more than one hour to get paid for one hour.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
Foltern - Sanctuary wrote: »
No sales, No interest, No buyers, No money = no game eventually. They have to keep the game interesting and they have to make money. They can't chillax with sales the same way fast food companies can't chillax with making burgers.
well the funny thing is.. based on pwi's stock, the game was doing just fine back when gold was still 100k a pop... but they are getting greedy, They are losing what used to be loyal players, for new cash shoppers. But what is going to happen to the game when there is no one left but these heavy cash shoppers? Boring game = no game.
and to jazmin about the whole job thing.. i make a little less than 15$ an hour, i have bills to pay, food to buy, gas to put in my car, car insurance.. all that ****. And with the economy the way it is.. meh im not sure why im even trying to explain my views to close-minded people <_<0 -
Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »well the funny thing is.. basted on pwi's stock, the game was doing just fine back when gold was still 100k a pop... but they are getting greedy, They are losing what used to be loyal players, for new cash shoppers. But what is going to happen to the game when there is no one left but these heavy cash shoppers? Boring game = no game.
Bob, their stock went from $8 dollar a share when gold was 100k to over $45 a share in September with the Anni Packs. Since that time it has stayed at $40+
The company may have been doing "fine", but they are doing 5 times better now....
Most of us work hard in RL and have bills to pay and stuff. However, when you look at the fact that someone not as lucky as you or me, and making minimun wage of $5.15 per hour would translate that they are working to make the equivalent of 1.2million coins per hour, you really cannot say that is over priced gold. People should be able to get more than equivalent to 1.2million coins for one hour of RL work at minimun wage, and when you use your 100k gold price, than those people would only be getting 300k coins per hour of RL work.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »Bob, their stock went from $8 dollar a share when gold was 100k to over $45 a share in September with the Anni Packs. Since that time it has stayed at $40+
They company may have been doing "fine", but they are doing 5 times better now....
well of course they are doing better now, but the person i quoted made it sound like they were in the brink of losing everything... which was not the case.0 -
Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »well of course they are doing better now, but the person i quoted made it sound like they were in the brink of losing everything... which was not the case.
My bad than, I missunderstood what you meant to say.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
Miss_Tika - Lost City wrote: »RedsRose this is ridiculous.
And all those people who refined to +10 with the Orb sale are still losing out on like... ~$170 or so.
I'm seriously shocked.
I needed my heart defib'ed .... when i saw that, i was thinking....well still in shock over how much it would cost just to get a +10 with out high skill of luck..
!~ Da Sheets0 -
Sheets - Sanctuary wrote: »I needed my heart defib'ed .... when i saw that, i was thinking....well still in shock over how much it would cost just to get a +10 with out high skill of luck..
!~ Da Sheets
Most of us prob had the same feeling once we did the math b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!
"Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous0 -
RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »We know it is a game...
How are we being fooled?
you are being fooled by PWE like this:
they call ANNIVERSARY PACK that box that should stay in CS just for the month of September >>> 3 month and those are still there
in this 3months ppl have been QQed over for like 200+ pages of forum, and the response from the devs, when those finally expired, were >>> back by popular demand
dunno if u havent noticed, but after the add of the resources into CS >>> the maps in PWdatabase that were so usefull for mining just disappeared
a game that cover the need of the player (BUG FIXING, GM influence, interesting event) with the alibi of creating a new expansion while still developing Cash Shop EVENT to exploit at max from us...
HELL YEAH IM FEELING FOOLED, once again b:surrenderRedsRose - Lost City wrote: »Good for you for making $$ over the summer...
fk, we are in a slump (im talking of REAL ECONOMY) we have financial crisis, and u think "w0w today i made 50gold, im gonna charge em asa i get home"
i just find absurd that some1 could event THINK to translate his weige into in-game GOLD
btw, if u can afford that, why NOT ?
right ?
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...right ?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
...i guarantee you, YOUR CHILDREN WILL NOT SEE THE DAY OF YOUR WHITE HAIRS...GOODBYE BLUE SKY (and PW too)
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1) I don't feel fooled....more in shock but not 100% surprised. I knew there were other "boxes" but was not sure how they were going to handle releasing them and when. Also, there are more boxes they have yet to release.
2) I am not opposed to people charging...I have too. But I am also not one to charge 100's or even 1000's on a free to play game. That is up to the individual...but I also maintain that these "uber" gears and ranks DO NOT make for good players....[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!
"Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous0 -
RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »^
1) I don't feel fooled....more in shock but not 100% surprised. I knew there were other "boxes" but was not sure how they were going to handle releasing them and when. Also, there are more boxes they have yet to release.
2) I am not opposed to people charging...I have too. But I am also not one to charge 100's or even 1000's on a free to play game. That is up to the individual...but I also maintain that these "uber" gears and ranks DO NOT make for good players....
im not talking of packs or what there is into the packs
im talking of comunication, they tell us in a way and make other...
they release a thing, but is double edged (do i have to make the ex. of 10*ORB into the ORB THREAD ?)
and dont think i didnt tried the anni packs...
during september, when they 1st came out i purchased for my 1st time in a MMO...it was the first time cuz i never tried a game that was worth to waste money on...
now i feel fooled for just have purchase those ZEN, cuz this game is getting the greed expansion soon and it will go down...b:bye[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
...i guarantee you, YOUR CHILDREN WILL NOT SEE THE DAY OF YOUR WHITE HAIRS...GOODBYE BLUE SKY (and PW too)
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^ Sorry you feel fooled....I don't.
YOU make the choice to charge/spend irl $$ on this game....this is no matter what sales/expansions/etc they come out with.
As far as communication....blame it on the Dev's....I am sure the GM's would love to know more then they are telling us, but I am 100% they know VERY little more then what we do and what they are telling us.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!
"Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous0 -
RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »^ Sorry you feel fooled....I don't.
As far as communication....blame it on the Dev's....I am sure the GM's would love to know more then they are telling us, but I am 100% they know VERY little more then what we do and what they are telling us.
right...u dont feel fooled
ur more in shock...b:cuteRedsRose - Lost City wrote: »YOU make the choice to charge/spend irl $$ on this game....this is no matter what sales/expansions/etc they come out with.
yeah, this for sure...
but besides those who already have spent half fort knox's gold into this game,
i think that the people willing to spend money from the start are getting real low...
btw ill continue playing until i can have FUN...
cuz, i dunno why u play this game for, but im looking for FUN[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
...i guarantee you, YOUR CHILDREN WILL NOT SEE THE DAY OF YOUR WHITE HAIRS...GOODBYE BLUE SKY (and PW too)
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GohRaL - Sanctuary wrote: »im sorry, but u have misunderstood me...
im not talking of packs or what there is into the packs
im talking of comunication, they tell us in a way and make other...
they release a thing, but is double edged (do i have to make the ex. of 10*ORB into the ORB THREAD ?)
and dont think i didnt tried the anni packs...
during september, when they 1st came out i purchased for my 1st time in a MMO...it was the first time cuz i never tried a game that was worth to waste money on...
now i feel fooled for just have purchase those ZEN, cuz this game is getting the greed expansion soon and it will go down...b:bye
The majority of the QQers here live in some fantasy world when it comes to goods/services. Firstly, they want the company only to sell things in the fashion they want them to sell it, i.e. they can't bring back anniversary packs if they so choose, despite the fact that nobody has to buy them, and it was never iterated they wouldn't come back. Secondly, they can't allow people to buy mounts or items that others spent a ton of money on long ago, for a cheaper price now. Thirdly, they can't allow people to buy mounts or items that others worked their **** off to get, but for a cost, while the others got it for free.
When people QQ about the bugs not being fixed, that is more than justified. A game you can't play without crashing on your as all the time is not a game worth playing, never mind spending money on. However, for optional items such as this, the QQing, particularly the people who keep going on and on about the same ****, is beyond ridiculous, and also hilarious -- full of misguided/uneducated anger.GohRaL - Sanctuary wrote: »right...u dont feel fooled
ur more in shock...b:cute
yeah, this for sure...
but besides those who already have spent half fort knox's gold into this game,
i think that the people willing to spend money from the start are getting real low...
btw ill continue playing until i can have FUN...
cuz, i dunno why u play this game for, but im looking for FUN0 -
Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »Yea, yesterday I realized something. I got bored with the game!!!b:shocked
Personally, now I just wanna build money in game, and farm mats now. Other than Dailies, I'm done due to boredom. I do wanna hit lvl 100, but its like im getting "seniorititis" for PWi. lol
Getting so lazy, I dont wanna play :P
The 2x EXP event is nice, but now its getting easier to hit 100. I saw 100 has a grand achievement of hard work. But now you have oralces, BHs, 2x EXP weekends.
On Topic: I dont think I'm refining past +5 lol
>.>
lmfao haha im not even past 2 on mine hahahha0 -
JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »LOL. Yeah, cuz it's PWI's fault that you're playing if you don't have fun. /wrists
sry but...WHAT THE F**K R U SAYING ?
if im not having fun, i wont play > as simple as that b:bye
and for the marketing fact:
this is not like the car spots
where they show u all the features of it with chromatic rim and screen into the seats and said that u can buy the car from 10k...
u'd think that for that 10k u get all that stuff, but is not...u get just the wheels and the body
they can do this cuz is right...they put * at the end of the commercial and is legal
-if an OFFICIAL STATEMENT say that one thing is into CS from day 1 to day 30
ud expect that at day 30 that thing will be removed...
-if an OFFICIAL STATEMENT tells that one thing is back by popular demand
ud expect that player liked em, but the fact is that was NOT...
popular demand is the majority...and the majority didnt want em back[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
...i guarantee you, YOUR CHILDREN WILL NOT SEE THE DAY OF YOUR WHITE HAIRS...GOODBYE BLUE SKY (and PW too)
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GohRaL - Sanctuary wrote: »sry but...WHAT THE F**K R U SAYING ?
if im not having fun, i wont play > as simple as that b:bye
and for the marketing fact:
this is not like the car spots
where they show u all the features of it with chromatic rim and screen into the seats and said that u can buy the car from 10k...
u'd think that for that 10k u get all that stuff, but is not...u get just the wheels and the body
they can do this cuz is right...they put * at the end of the commercial and is legal
-if an OFFICIAL STATEMENT say that one thing is into CS from day 1 to day 30
ud expect that at day 30 that thing will be removed...
-if an OFFICIAL STATEMENT tells that one thing is back by popular demand
ud expect that player liked em, but the fact is that was NOT...
popular demand is the majority...and the majority didnt want em back0 -
GohRaL - Sanctuary wrote: »-if an OFFICIAL STATEMENT tells that one thing is back by popular demand
ud expect that player liked em, but the fact is that was NOT...
popular demand is the majority...and the majority didnt want em back
How do you know that majority does not like them? Are you talking about the long post in the forums? Those represent less than 5% of the PW playerbase.. and that is not even taking into account that people posted more than once.... Don't you think that if the packs did not sell well PW would not had bothered to put them back and instead would had found something else to sell?
The only fact we have is that for the month of September, PWI reported record profits, and the packs were the most successful sale event in PW history, so much so that PW stock went up 500%.
If a sale event that sets a sale record is not a popular one......
You can say you hate the packs, but you sure cannot say "the majority does not like them", since, tbh, you have no idea if that is a true statement or not.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »How do you know that majority does not like them? Are you talking about the long post in teh forums? Don't you think that if the packs did not sell well PW would not had bothered to put them back and instead would had found something else to sell?
The only fact we have is that for the month of September, PWI reported record profits, and the packs were the most successful sale event in PW history, so much so that PW stock went up 500%.
If a sale event that sets a sale record is not a popular one......
You can say you hate the packs, but you sure cannot say "the majority does not like them", since, tbh, you have no idea if that is a true statement or not.
oh...LOLb:chuckle
I can agree with you that those pack made a record sale IN THE FIRST MONTH (in the official time)
hell...i purchase some too...
i bought a drake mount for 25gold and the rest i got anni packs
but then...AFTER the end of the event the packs were still there...
the ppl were starting to complain about this and there was NO response from the company...
i know there are some addicts (i know some from my server cuz i remembered duke spam all the time with that 4names cycling) that may have kept the sell up...
but when u have a referendum-like thread in the forum that has ALMOST all negative post (negative is not QQ), i think that is popular demand[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
...i guarantee you, YOUR CHILDREN WILL NOT SEE THE DAY OF YOUR WHITE HAIRS...GOODBYE BLUE SKY (and PW too)
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