Tideborn - Tale of Mermaid news

Cernunnosx - Heavens Tear

What would be nice but I cant in this World see it happening is :

In the video the Tideborn seem to have been tainted, one skill states they can control Wraith mobs (maybe), so maybe they will be unable to squad with current classes and its more of a us V them update and PW takes its first baby steps into RvR

Be nice but sadly like I said cant see it happening b:cry

Korren - Lost City

Removed all skills that were proved to be wrong.
Added all skill names that can be found in the update patch.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

XHappyBunnyx - Sanctuary

wow.. the sin is so unoriginal.

Quilue - Sanctuary

mm...i trust that it'll be balanced by the time the expansion comes upon us. after all, ppl were like BAWW while looking at genies preview but now it's kind of alright...

bawksy

Korren - Lost City wrote: »

Removed all skills that were proved to be wrong.
Added all skill names that can be found in the update patch.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

booo I like the unedited version better gave us reasons to QQ about b:cry

MagicHamsta - Lost City

Cant - Dreamweaver wrote: »

i'm finding it hard to beleive that you can still see the name.. unless they are in the same squad.

my favorite sin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNjKwANKa_Y

Agreed.
Thats why I found the other post strange.
b:chuckle

LOL RAPPELZ I used to play that game!
xD

AkioHikaru - Sanctuary

I'll defiantly play both classes, primarily Psychic.

Those thinking the Assassin will OP most likely are setting themselves up for a serious let down. I'm thinking it will be like this:

Assassin will select a target and turn invisibility on. He/she sneaks up to said target expecting to get easy kill. Target has invisibility mod and easily kills the assassin.

Sadly, nearly every game I've played has had these mods (undetected by game guard) and ruined the assassin type classes.

Hopefully PWI will be active and making sure this doesn't happen. Then again half of the cat shops in Arch are multi-clients.

I'm not sure if this can be prevented by making it server sided..I'm thinking it will be client sided (as in most games)

Any developers reading this would be best to look into this possible situation now than later..or else you'll have lots of pissed off players.

natedog97

Well I am more interested in psychic so here is my take on the skills based on their name.

life bubble - Minor heal (faster than wiz but not as good as cleric)

freeze - Locks enemies in place (similar to archers aim low)

amplify damage - Name pretty much says it all. Will prob be one of the better skills for the class.

regeneration suppress - Trades all HP/MP regeneration for boost in a stat (maybe def)

earth spirit - Attacking spell, summons "spirit" to do attack.

earth collapse - Attacking spell... sounds similar to mt. seige

increase atk reduce def

increase def reduce atk

both of those are self explanitory

soul of vengeance - reflect/seal/interrupt (stolen from Korren's translations)

sand blow - another earth attack

enemy's tactics - replecates next enemy's skill (only pvp)

will of psychic - not too sure on this one.... maybe control wraith creatures for a time or all element/ physical attack or a purge type skill

riptide - Water based attack

waterfall - Water based attack

magic impact - debuff that

bramble aura - reflection skill

magical shield - use magic powers to absorb dmg.

sacrifice - kill yourself to rez another great to save a party if the cleric goes down.

Thanks Korren for all the translations!

MagicHamsta - Lost City

"sacrifice - kill yourself to rez another great to save a party if the cleric goes down."

does that mean you lose exp instead of them? b:shocked

lol psychic sounds more like a cross between a wizard and a cleric.
xD

Alexeno - Sanctuary

AkioHikaru - Sanctuary wrote: »

I'll defiantly play both classes, primarily Psychic.

Those thinking the Assassin will OP most likely are setting themselves up for a serious let down. I'm thinking it will be like this:

Assassin will select a target and turn invisibility on. He/she sneaks up to said target expecting to get easy kill. Target has invisibility mod and easily kills the assassin.

Sadly, nearly every game I've played has had these mods (undetected by game guard) and ruined the assassin type classes.

Hopefully PWI will be active and making sure this doesn't happen. Then again half of the cat shops in Arch are multi-clients.

I'm not sure if this can be prevented by making it server sided..I'm thinking it will be client sided (as in most games)

Any developers reading this would be best to look into this possible situation now than later..or else you'll have lots of pissed off players.

honestly, i could care less if people use anti-cloak mods. i don't really pvp, so wouldn't affect me much (even tho i'm a TW fanatic, i still really wouldn't care lol) i like the cloaking for the PvE aspect... especially if it would allow me to just casually walk past mobs XD

another thing i realized: for the cloaking. will most likely FORCE walking mode (you naturally start in running mode, but can switch to walking mode by pressing "E" then clicking "Walk/Run"). forcing walk mode and debuffing speed would mean even with speed buffs, would still move slow. would definitely help balance the fact that you're invisible

natedog97 wrote: »

Well I am more interested in psychic so here is my take on the skills based on their name.

life bubble - Minor heal (faster than wiz but not as good as cleric)

freeze - Locks enemies in place (similar to archers aim low)

amplify damage - Name pretty much says it all. Will prob be one of the better skills for the class.

regeneration suppress - Trades all HP/MP regeneration for boost in a stat (maybe def)

earth spirit - Attacking spell, summons "spirit" to do attack.

earth collapse - Attacking spell... sounds similar to mt. seige

increase atk reduce def

increase def reduce atk

both of those are self explanitory

soul of vengeance - reflect/seal/interrupt (stolen from Korren's translations)

sand blow - another earth attack

enemy's tactics - replecates next enemy's skill (only pvp)

will of psychic - not too sure on this one.... maybe control wraith creatures for a time or all element/ physical attack or a purge type skill

riptide - Water based attack

waterfall - Water based attack

magic impact - debuff that

bramble aura - reflection skill

magical shield - use magic powers to absorb dmg.

sacrifice - kill yourself to rez another great to save a party if the cleric goes down.

Thanks Korren for all the translations!

thanks for giving your ideas, i gotta say, i see how they fit. if they give psy's the sacrifice and mob control skills as you and others predict, i'm rolling a psychic, period b:victory

natedog97

MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »

"sacrifice - kill yourself to rez another great to save a party if the cleric goes down."

does that mean you lose exp instead of them? b:shocked

lol psychic sounds more like a cross between a wizard and a cleric.
xD

Maybe upgrading the skill would give you less xp loss..

that coupled with a cleric rez = almost next to no xp loss.

Honestly after seeing all the skill names they sound like more of a cross between all the classes in certian aspects. Which is why if even half of the speculation is true... I will be rolling a psychic.

Aadi - Lost City

Alexeno - Sanctuary wrote: »

plus, dont forget, while cloaked, they have a speed debuff

meh, i think i've said enough for now

What worried me about that was that the invisibility skill said "-50% speed, -50% attack"

The next two skills raised movement speed and attack while invisible...b:surrender

But I doubt a lot of those were real anyway.

Centetric - Lost City

no aadi it said -50% speed, +50% attck LAWL

Aadi - Lost City

Centetric - Lost City wrote: »

no aadi it said -50% speed, +50% LAWL

Oh my. Well, that changes everything. b:chuckle

Regardless, I still trust the descriptions about as much as I trusted the speculation on our forums.

Alexeno - Sanctuary

natedog97 wrote: »

Maybe upgrading the skill would give you less xp loss..

that coupled with a cleric rez = almost next to no xp loss.

Honestly after seeing all the skill names they sound like more of a cross between all the classes in certian aspects. Which is why if even half of the speculation is true... I will be rolling a psychic.

sage/demon (lvl 11) cleric rez = 100% protection against exp loss b:cute

Aadi - Lost City wrote: »

What worried me about that was that the invisibility skill said "-50% speed, -50% attack"

The next two skills raised movement speed and attack while invisible...b:surrender

But I doubt a lot of those were real anyway.

i wouldn't doubt if they were all real. i also wouldnt doubt that the invisible move/atk buff only lasts a few seconds lol

another thing i wouldn't be suprised about is if they make the tideborn only available to players who have a character from the original three races that's over level X. like DKs (lvl 75[?] unlocks) or maniacs (lvl 100 unlocks)... not going to say which games those come from lol

both those lvlreq classes are hellishly OP, but the fact they require another character of uberlvl to unlock = less complaints (because they actually EARNED the right to play the OP class)

Coraline - Lost City

Alexeno - Sanctuary wrote: »

sage/demon (lvl 11) cleric rez = 100% protection against exp loss b:cute



i wouldn't doubt if they were all real. i also wouldnt doubt that the invisible move/atk buff only lasts a few seconds lol

another thing i wouldn't be suprised about is if they make the tideborn only available to players who have a character from the original three races that's over level X. like DKs (lvl 75[?] unlocks) or maniacs (lvl 100 unlocks)... not going to say which games those come from lol

both those lvlreq classes are hellishly OP, but the fact they require another character of uberlvl to unlock = less complaints (because they actually EARNED the right to play the OP class)

That would be a very good idea..I like it a lot, but way too many people will qq about it.

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear

Coraline - Lost City wrote: »

That would be a very good idea..I like it a lot, but way too many people will qq about it.

Well it would certainly reduce the inevitable KSing and infiQQ at the tideborn starting areas.

Centetric - Lost City

i LUV that idea but i need to lvl a but QQ

Alexeno - Sanctuary

Coraline - Lost City wrote: »

That would be a very good idea..I like it a lot, but way too many people will qq about it.

of course they will... this wouldnt be pwi if the nubs didn't expect everything to be handed to them XP

but in all seriousness, i really hope the psys get to use pets and also get that skill to sac themselves to rez another...

natedog97

they cant really have it be an unlockable class...

nor would I want it to be.

I have high lvl alts on different accounts and servers. soooo how am I going to "verify" that I can unlock them.

And honestly I really doubt that they will be as OP as some people think it will be.

Another assumption I have from reading everything.

Assassins: Melee Archer which means no kiting ability same shatty defense... Sure they go invis but, if they don't one shot you they are dead. If you catch them off guard they are dead.

Psychics: Dark Wizard which means *more than likely* they will be weak as hell and hard to play at low lvls, but at high lvls be very powerful.

Both of the classes are, more or less already in the game. If the balance is off the devs will weaken or strengthen to balance them out.

I find if funny with all of the people QQing about how bad the balance is already. With ANY class you can kill ANY other class if you use strategy and tactics...

To that I say...

Less QQ more pew pew

Alexeno - Sanctuary

natedog97 wrote: »

they cant really have it be an unlockable class...

nor would I want it to be.

I have high lvl alts on different accounts and servers. soooo how am I going to "verify" that I can unlock them.

its not hard... lots of MMOs have classes that are unlocked by certain lvl milestones on your other characters

Edeakyria - Sanctuary

Why don't we wait until the skill descriptions are actually released? I'm just excited about turning into a mermaid, that's really all I care about. Everyone's whining about them being overpowered but you don't even know what they're going to be like yet. Just cool your jets b:laugh

natedog97

The issue is the fact that I have different accounts for all of my mains so i can keep track of the amount of cash I dump into them.

The different accounts would be the issue. Not going server to server on the same account.

and as I explained I really doubt they will be strong enough to really make them a "goal" to unlock. If they decide to do that I will just roll a wizard and keep that as my main.

Edeakyria - Sanctuary

Honestly, making them unlockable would put a lot of people off (myself included) and is a terrible idea. Good thing it's most likely not going to happen!

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear

I believe I have found a leaked screenshot containing a TideBorn character!

natedog97

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I believe I have found a leaked screenshot containing a TideBorn character!

If that is true...

The class is no doubt way too strong!!!

rexberry

Hi guys.
Just my 2 cents~

I think people are being overly optimistic about the insta-kill assassin skill. If you just use a little logic, it's easy to see that the skill most likely wont work in pvp.
For example, if even stunning Qingzi isn't allowed, then I really doubt they would allow a skill that single-shots him. The idea of killing a lv 100 with this skill while you're level 30 is just way too far-fetched.

The whole invisibility aspect is interesting, but I wonder - do you guys think the assassin player's name will still be displayed above their character for other players? And what about on other players' radars?

Lastly, I think there's something on this list that really deserves some discussion but no one seems to be talking about it - Vampiric Aura? If anyone else here has played D2, you already know how powerful & important life leech is.

Isala - Sanctuary

No, we've already confirmed they look like this...

natedog97

b:laughb:laughb:chuckleb:chuckle

If only... if only!!

Dominatiger - Sanctuary

LOL

assassins wont have the 5% one-shot in pvp or against bosses that is obvious!!!

Assassins will be fast killed when not invisible, HA will kill assassins since sins are LA.
Assassins have been created to kill Venos, clerics, wizards, and maybe physics.

Archers, BMs and Barbs kill assassins prety easy.

Sorry guys... assassins wont be so OP (one-shot every class) like you guys were thinking.

One major fail I spot in the first pages:

level 30 assassins can one-shot level 100 players

/doublefacepalm^^