Anyone remember the old days

VenusFox - Sanctuary

Mothergoose - Sanctuary wrote: »

*waits for map reset*b:chuckle

You're living in a fairytale.. Keep waiting bc reset will never happen... b:victory

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

VenusFox - Sanctuary wrote: »

You're living in a fairytale.. Keep waiting bc reset will never happen... b:victory

Oblivious pple will eat their words lol. You would be surprised how many pple have speculated new changes and have for the upcoming ones. Hope you keep your sig as is in the next half year b:victory

TheHunter_ - Sanctuary

i wud luuuuuuuuv to see map resettin' b:pleased

Shandelzare - Sanctuary

Map reset really won't make a difference...

TheHunter_ - Sanctuary

Shandelzare - Sanctuary wrote: »

Map reset really won't make a difference...

maybe true...and very unlikely it wud even happen! but still..i wud luuuuuuuuuuuuv it!b:pleased

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Shandelzare - Sanctuary wrote: »

Map reset really won't make a difference...

I think most of us are just looking forward to pple dispersing like flies on a b:fatb from facs b:chuckle purely amusement

Miriade - Sanctuary

I would rather see new lands and places available than a map reset. Because map reset would make many ppl stop playing, what is not the objective of PWI.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Miriade - Sanctuary wrote: »

I would rather see new lands and places available than a map reset. Because map reset would make many ppl stop playing, what is not the objective of PWI.

translation: I want MOAR land. I dont want pple to leave my faction.


personally I dont mind either way reset or not. Change eventually happens in time anyway with outside help or no help, just a matter of how fast or not.

AndromedaB - Sanctuary

i want PVE tws agian except with the mobs a uber high level

Herne_Hunter - Sanctuary

Miriade - Sanctuary wrote: »

Oh yeah... It was a very good time! b:chuckle

where u even there then ??

RisenPhoenix - Sanctuary

Miriade - Sanctuary wrote: »

I would rather see new lands and places so my faction can dominate them all before you weaklings can even attempt to grab hold of it.. Because map reset would make many Nefarious members stop playing, what is not the objective of PWI.

I think thats what you meant to say

Your faction has enough money. If you can slam a 200mil bid on a ****ty piece of land and afford to +4 your members weapons, you can afford to lose all your land and start from scratch and actually earn your title as Dominating Faction, like the old Nefarious did before you nubs came in and took over.

Xiitharra - Sanctuary

I remember back when no lands were taken. I was in nef, nwo, epic, shockwave, ledgendary, and outlaw. I helped in many TWs.

Btw what ever happened to outlaw? They disband?

The way it is now its kinda boring...even for those in nef and ledgendary.

Maybe they should have high level npcs do multiple attacks on large land owners as a way for them to lose some of there land so that other guilds have a chance to own something. Would sure make it interesting and return the map back to it's golden era.

Sure though nef and ledgendary wouldn't like it, but meh this way...TW's are dead...just boring, no fun to watch, and no way for anyone to participate. I'm surprised they never developed any system to keep TW's alive and kicking the way it used to be.

Hummm, just had an idea, and its very simple....reset the map and only allow five lands max be owned.

Anyway, its an idea for you guys, as for me I quit ths game back in the golden age when I was level 73...popped in because I am waiting for Aions open beta so either way I don't care, but for you guys it would bring the golden age back and it would always be golden...you all sure missed a lotta fun...my idea would work easily...pass it on to those who matter.

ciao
aka ZombifiedCat

Saveless - Harshlands

I remember when it was rare to see someone with 89 fairy. I can't really remember shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit tbh.

Alyyy - Sanctuary

i remember when i flew around in my noob days and was like Outlaw....blablabla....Nef....blablabla...Leg.....blablabla....

Miriade - Sanctuary

Herne_Hunter - Sanctuary wrote: »

where u even there then ??

Sorry? What do you mean? I can't understand your english at all.

RisenPhoenix - Sanctuary wrote: »

I think thats what you meant to say

Your faction has enough money. If you can slam a 200mil bid on a ****ty piece of land and afford to +4 your members weapons, you can afford to lose all your land and start from scratch and actually earn your title as Dominating Faction, like the old Nefarious did before you nubs came in and took over.

Risen... Honestly, this jealous behaviour is kinda ridiculous. No, nor NEF or LEG got their lands because GM's decided to be nice and chosed 2 factions to give lands. THEY WORKED VERY VERY HARD! And I worked also for some lands that we have now.

At all, ppl just blame Nef and Leg too much because they would like to be in the same place. ANY FACTION THAT WAS IN OUR PLACE OR LEGENDARY PLACE WOULD DO THE SAME AND WOULD BE BLAMED IN THE SAME WAY!


This is like politic! Any leadership will be blamed at all for every little and stupid thing! But, once they opposition get the power, THEY WILL DO THE SAME AND BE BLAMED IN THE SAME WAY!

So....

FLUFFY!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS BS!

b:angryb:angryb:angryb:angry

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Miriade - Sanctuary wrote: »

Sorry? What do you mean? I can't understand your english at all.

Risen... Honestly, this jealous behaviour is kinda ridiculous. No, nor NEF or LEG got their lands because GM's decided to be nice and chosed 2 factions to give lands. THEY WORKED VERY VERY HARD! And I worked also for some lands that we have now.

At all, ppl just blame Nef and Leg too much because they would like to be in the same place. ANY FACTION THAT WAS IN OUR PLACE OR LEGENDARY PLACE WOULD DO THE SAME AND WOULD BE BLAMED IN THE SAME WAY!

This is like politic! Any leadership will be blamed at all for every little and stupid thing! But, once they opposition get the power, THEY WILL DO THE SAME AND BE BLAMED IN THE SAME WAY!

So....

FLUFFY!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS BS!

b:angryb:angryb:angryb:angry

What hes saying is that it was more of the 1st generation original nef members that worked their **** off to get the faction bigger and right now, most members are 2nd, 3rd generation pple who just joined AFTER nef got bigger. The first generation are nearly gone or quit, they worked the hardest. 2nd generation nef, they put in some work too but not as much as the original pple. 3rd generation will most likely leave the moment you guys loose 3 lands in a row.


In this case "THEY WORKED VERY VERY HARD!". Most of THEY are gone. WORKED does not mean continuing to ride a already big boat(faction) that somebody else left for you. If nef is as hard working as you say it is, then the new members should be able to do what the original nef members did. Start from nothing and be top again. (but currently there is no map reset so that is not possible)

Saveless - Harshlands

Who's Miriade? Lol.

Protanganist - Sanctuary

Saveless - Harshlands wrote: »

Who's Miriade? Lol.

She/he/it is the in-game wife of the Nef leader, pretends to be some Nef queen, and very defensive of she/he/it's kingdom of red.

XAsch - Sanctuary

Miriade - Sanctuary wrote: »

Risen... Honestly, this jealous behaviour is kinda ridiculous. No, nor NEF or LEG got their lands because GM's decided to be nice and chosed 2 factions to give lands. THEY WORKED VERY VERY HARD! And I worked also for some lands that we have now.

At all, ppl just blame Nef and Leg too much because they would like to be in the same place. ANY FACTION THAT WAS IN OUR PLACE OR LEGENDARY PLACE WOULD DO THE SAME AND WOULD BE BLAMED IN THE SAME WAY!


This is like politic! Any leadership will be blamed at all for every little and stupid thing! But, once they opposition get the power, THEY WILL DO THE SAME AND BE BLAMED IN THE SAME WAY!

So....

FLUFFY!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS BS!

Sorry? What do you mean? I can't understand your english at all. b:chuckle

RisenPhoenix - Sanctuary

Miriade - Sanctuary wrote: »

Risen... Honestly, this jealous behaviour is kinda ridiculous. No, nor NEF or LEG got their lands because GM's decided to be nice and chosed 2 factions to give lands. THEY WORKED VERY VERY HARD! And I worked also for some lands that we have now.

At all, ppl just blame Nef and Leg too much because they would like to be in the same place. ANY FACTION THAT WAS IN OUR PLACE OR LEGENDARY PLACE WOULD DO THE SAME AND WOULD BE BLAMED IN THE SAME WAY!


This is like politic! Any leadership will be blamed at all for every little and stupid thing! But, once they opposition get the power, THEY WILL DO THE SAME AND BE BLAMED IN THE SAME WAY!

So....

FLUFFY!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS BS!

b:angryb:angryb:angryb:angry

Well, I see I finally ticked one of your nerves.

Trust me, it is far from jealousy. I was simply pointing out that if Nef and Leg love TW -so- much, they wouldnt mind a map reset. Hell, a lot of them would be able to enjoy PvE TW's again.

1st Generation of Nef and Leg are essentially gone, with a few remaining. 2nd Generation Nef and Leg....well, they are there, but they are only absorbing each other, not much experience there really. And 3rd gen? they are the ones who are joining to get a slice of that nice paycheck, when people leave for whatever reasons.

Come on now, I doubt very many non-Nef, and non-Leg would leave this server if there was a map reset.

I dont care if the faction worked hard for it. So? Work hard for it again. No biggie.

Trust me, youll get bored eventually.

Miriade - Sanctuary

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

What hes saying is that it was more of the 1st generation original nef members that worked their **** off to get the faction bigger and right now, most members are 2nd, 3rd generation pple who just joined AFTER nef got bigger. The first generation are nearly gone or quit, they worked the hardest. 2nd generation nef, they put in some work too but not as much as the original pple. 3rd generation will most likely leave the moment you guys loose 3 lands in a row.


In this case "THEY WORKED VERY VERY HARD!". Most of THEY are gone. WORKED does not mean continuing to ride a already big boat(faction) that somebody else left for you. If nef is as hard working as you say it is, then the new members should be able to do what the original nef members did. Start from nothing and be top again. (but currently there is no map reset so that is not possible)

Ok... So, let's bring it for a real life situation that would make my idea much clear.

In many countries in this world we had wars for territories also (btw, we still having it). Many ppl worked very hard, many ppl lost theis lives, to get the territories for theis nations or also, to be independent from any other nation. It happened a long time ago in many countries and many of the ppl that fought in these wars are already dead. Then, well, the time goes on and between the population you have the young ones, that was born after all these conflicts. You have also the ones who came from another countries, looking for a different life or just enjoying an opportunity that hey have.

These ppl, that didn't fought, are also building and improving the nation.


So, just because they didn't fight for the territory they don't desearve to be there? Even if they are working hard and helping their nation to grow up?

I know the system is different but... It is the same idea...

In Nefarious we have many sort of ppl. We have the ones who fought in that time and work to keep the faction a good place to be in; the old ones that was in that time and didn't do nothing to help faction; the new ones that are that are fighting and supporting the guild and the ones that just are there to get the money.

So just because some ppl joined later they don't desearve the territories? Do you fought for the place where you leave, btw?

Ppl is like this in every single place in world and in every single faction. You always will have the ones that are faithfull and the ones that are **** and dirty.

This is the human being and even if this thing is a game, you have human beins behing the computers.

Miriade - Sanctuary

RisenPhoenix - Sanctuary wrote: »

Well, I see I finally ticked one of your nerves.

hahahahahaha

Are you happy because of it?

You just got me in a bad day...

AkioHikaru - Sanctuary

Miriade - Sanctuary wrote: »

Ok... So, let's bring it for a real life situation that would make my idea much clear.

In many countries in this world we had wars for territories also (btw, we still having it). Many ppl worked very hard, many ppl lost theis lives, to get the territories for theis nations or also, to be independent from any other nation. It happened a long time ago in many countries and many of the ppl that fought in these wars are already dead. Then, well, the time goes on and between the population you have the young ones, that was born after all these conflicts. You have also the ones who came from another countries, looking for a different life or just enjoying an opportunity that hey have.

You make some valid points in comparison to real life. However, laws, customs and regulations set by the previous generations must be adhered to keep things running smoothly. Certainly some of those change over time. I think this thread regarding "The Old Days" about Nef, and this certainly isn't a Nef only thread, is about the standards that used be required to be in Nef.

These ppl, that didn't fought, are also building and improving the nation.


So, just because they didn't fight for the territory they don't desearve to be there? Even if they are working hard and helping their nation to grow up?

I know the system is different but... It is the same idea...

In Nefarious we have many sort of ppl. We have the ones who fought in that time and work to keep the faction a good place to be in; the old ones that was in that time and didn't do nothing to help faction; the new ones that are that are fighting and supporting the guild and the ones that just are there to get the money.

You need to be clear and specific on "the old ones that didn't do nothing to help the faction. Worded like that it makes it seem the old players weren't responsible for the success that you Nef youngsters enjoy today.

So just because some ppl joined later they don't desearve the territories? Do you fought for the place where you leave, btw?

Ppl is like this in every single place in world and in every single faction. You always will have the ones that are faithfull and the ones that are **** and dirty.

This is the human being and even if this thing is a game, you have human beins behing the computers.

I came from other mmo's that were full of drama, server wide wars, scandals and mayhem. When I started this server I remember NWO, Sepp, Nef, Leg and many others fighting each other for land. That's why I continued to play this. It was fun drama. The 1v1 pvp is lame, but what makes this game shine is the group pvp. Now..its just stale.

I just hope that one day, as all these new players pass lvl 90, this server will get interesting again. I don't believe in a map reset, that's taking the easy way out. What we need is less people being sell outs waiting for a spot in the big two, be willing to merge factions and participate in group actives such as TW.

riddiculus

Miriade - Sanctuary wrote: »

Ok... So, let's bring it for a real life situation that would make my idea much clear.

In many countries in this world we had wars for territories also (btw, we still having it). Many ppl worked very hard, many ppl lost theis lives, to get the territories for theis nations or also, to be independent from any other nation. It happened a long time ago in many countries and many of the ppl that fought in these wars are already dead. Then, well, the time goes on and between the population you have the young ones, that was born after all these conflicts. You have also the ones who came from another countries, looking for a different life or just enjoying an opportunity that hey have.

These ppl, that didn't fought, are also building and improving the nation.


So, just because they didn't fight for the territory they don't desearve to be there? Even if they are working hard and helping their nation to grow up?

I know the system is different but... It is the same idea...

In Nefarious we have many sort of ppl. We have the ones who fought in that time and work to keep the faction a good place to be in; the old ones that was in that time and didn't do nothing to help faction; the new ones that are that are fighting and supporting the guild and the ones that just are there to get the money.

So just because some ppl joined later they don't desearve the territories? Do you fought for the place where you leave, btw?

Ppl is like this in every single place in world and in every single faction. You always will have the ones that are faithfull and the ones that are **** and dirty.

This is the human being and even if this thing is a game, you have human beins behing the computers.

Ok so im not against nef or anything.. but I just dont like the fact that everytime you guys win TW u go around boasting like you are the makers of the world... N u sed it urself.. u know theres conflict and some would not like you.. so wouldnt boasting around just create more hatred?? think about it
Human being behind computers have feelings and you should respect that too ya know..

I also hear rumors of small factions being paid to **** up time slot... I would deny it till proven but I guess the only one who knows is Nef themselves so IF and only IF you're doing that... its uncool and shuld b stopped... it is bannable after all...

BUT

I do think sme credit must go to nef... they can defend week in week out against so many factions at so many different time... so in a way you guys do deserve it too...

Summary: A little less 'conversation' a little more 'action'

Saveless - Harshlands

Let's stop with the color coding text pl0x.

RRARRRRGGHHH - Sanctuary

Ok im too lazy to read the past whatever long of pointless argument so...

I remember when my first real faction rebel, owned timberfield, and then a few weeks later got owned by legendary and lost it. Nothin like old time tw...was scared to be in that one cus i thought i sucked at like level 50 something, so i sat out. Soon after that tons of people left faction...most of them went to nefarious and are still there to this day. I ended up in legendary and am happy there b:victory...as did some other rebel members (tho this was over 6 months..i actually forget how long.. later).

Then I remember when like TT 60 was bad ****...like seriously tt 1-2 was like impossible...remember my faction leader bm gettin 1 shot by drum LOL.
Good times...

Damn I feel old b:shocked

Evga - Sanctuary

i wonder, what generation of nef would i be? if i said i join them late December :P 1st or 2nd? i wonder b:laugh

btw, resetting the map won't make much of a difference in my opinion. Nef members would still stay in faction, the same reason as leg members would stay in leg and that is because nef and leg will represent the best opportunity to control the most land. and since, nef and leg have banks where we keep extra money, i'm sure we will win any bid that goes against us (remember, you get back 90% if you win)

and AkioHikaru is right, the only way nef or leg will lose land to a third faction is if a new faction could gather enough high lvl players.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

Miriade - Sanctuary wrote: »

Ok... So, let's bring it for a real life situation that would make my idea much clear.

In many countries in this world we had wars for territories also (btw, we still having it). Many ppl worked very hard, many ppl lost theis lives, to get the territories for theis nations or also, to be independent from any other nation. It happened a long time ago in many countries and many of the ppl that fought in these wars are already dead. Then, well, the time goes on and between the population you have the young ones, that was born after all these conflicts. You have also the ones who came from another countries, looking for a different life or just enjoying an opportunity that hey have.

I think the big thing and the most important thing you missed by referring to real life is that in real life, you cannot switch your country/ethnicity or group that easily. Thats what makes things in the real world worth every bit fighting for. Because you stuck with it, live with it, and believe in it.

On PWI? Ho man... fac jumper FTW lol
Imagine how light words and beleifs would be if pple jumped their countries and ethnic backgrounds in RL.

Evga - Sanctuary

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

I think the big thing and the most important thing you missed by referring to real life is that in real life, you cannot switch your country/ethnicity or group that easily. Thats what makes things in the real world worth every bit fighting for. Because you stuck with it, live with it, and believe in it.

On PWI? Ho man... fac jumper FTW lol
Imagine how light words and beleifs would be if pple jumped their countries and ethnic backgrounds in RL.

what bs... you can switch country easily as long as you have something to offer... skill wise. like pwi, if you have the level you can jump to almost any faction you like. the same goes to real life. if you wanted to migrate say to the UK, and you are excellent engineer, a company would gladly get you a working visa and with that you are on your way to becoming a permanent citizen.

i just honestly can't believe how there is so many stupid and ignorant people in pwi are...

Urban_Ninja - Sanctuary

Stop this QQ and remember the old days b:shockedb:shockedb:shocked