Rate a Character thread. Hot or Not.

_Perses_ - Lost City

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »

@DimThought

the look actually kind works for your char, although I do miss the bolder looks from before. 4/5


@littletiger

The eyeshadow makes it look like someone is shining a light in her eyes. o.o The fashion works well although I'd give her a tan to go with that beach fashion of hers. I don't mind the yellow hair, it works for her. 3.5

Okay this entry is just for laughs, so need to rate it too seriously XD

∞/5 for THAT image b:dirty

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver

alittletiger wrote: »

Thank u for ur opinion.

@VenusArmani

I like ur "Screenshots and Words" ... Great Thread.

Why Thank you b:cute

KuiXing - Harshlands

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Okay this entry is just for laughs, so need to rate it too seriously XD

Love that heart on your bum Venus b:mischievous

Accalica - Heavens Tear

Time to rate some nice pixels again so be ready for a wall of text b:chuckle

Baby_pho - I'm not too sure about this one, to me her eyes are kind of giving me the impression of an owl and she looks a little bit tiny on the arms and torso. Otherwise I like the colors you've chosen but reckon she would have more depth to her face with a darker eyecolor, it would also take away a little bit of the "owl" look since they become more deep n less flat looking. 2.5/5

X$exyFox - I feel that your veno can use a bit of work on her to refine her edges...she's a bit sharp and the colors are very strong aswell making her a little bit harsh to look at..I think she'd look better with a darker eyeshadow to flatter her lip color, and also maybe a dark red or more ash blonde haircolor. I like her body proportions tho. 2.5/5

dimthought - I can tell where ur inspiration came from when it comes to grav's toon, but I think it's a little bit harsh on her. Imo she might look better if u open her eyes just a tiny bit more and make her nose a little bit smaller? I like her hairstyle and colors rly do fit your fashion 3.7/5

Hitsuzen - I think u did a VERY good job on your seeker! I love her haircolor and the way she looks very "natural" and how the colors of her hair blends with her lips. (Too bad EGs cant chose their brow color) otherwise I really think u hit the head on the nail with this one! Love how she looks edgy like her class is supposed to but yet very feminin. 5/5

Since I feel like it, I'll sneak in some extra pics of my sin's new fashion makeover..I think it made her look atleast a little bit less innocent ^.^

Her old look, yes..I tried my skills on an animation and failed but still..xD

Renza - Raging Tide

The sin looks very clone like to me, not much else I can say in trying to rate.

Accalica - Heavens Tear

Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »

The sin looks very clone like to me, not much else I can say in trying to rate.

Really now?;o Funny, I've touched every single setting there is on sins and remodelled her whole face by actually putting her chin where her lips usually should be then moving everything up by alot, but oh well. I assume that was all work for nothing then b:chuckle

NiightmareXz - Harshlands

Accalica - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Really now?;o Funny, I've touched every single setting there is on sins and remodelled her whole face by actually putting her chin where her lips usually should be then moving everything up by alot, but oh well. I assume that was all work for nothing then b:chuckle

Same here, but she basically said the same about mine o.o
The only way to make an "original" TB is by making them fugly and I'm not dealing with a fugly character.

Accalica - Heavens Tear

NiightmareXz - Harshlands wrote: »

Same here, but she basically said the same about mine o.o
The only way to make an "original" TB is by making them fugly and I'm not dealing with a fugly character.

Sadly very true sometimes..but I've seen a few well made TBs that arn't ugly..yet pretty unique. I do think someone should expand their comment if they make one like it tho. But oh well we can fit in the pretty clone club then cause I can't stand havin ugly pixies for bein unique either b:victory b:chuckle besides, your sin to me looks nothing like the preset..so whutevs, let's take it as a compliment shall we =P

Renza - Raging Tide

Perhaps you did edit "everything" you could do, doesn't change the fact that it looks like the other 500 sins I've seen roaming about, I can easily notice just about any preset as soon as I see it, reason being that I actually take notice of what a dang preset looks like when I'm on the char screen trying to make my own, I'm not saying it looks like a preset because I don't like the look of the character, if that was the case, I would of said so, but yeah, there's more to editing a face then just moving things about a little and moving the jaw up.

If you want, send me the file of your character preset and I'll take a look at it so I can see for my self and perhaps even make some sort of edits that you may like, don't even have to keep it, but I don't get my jollies from telling people that either their character sucks or its a preset, I just say what I think.

lvl60togekiss

@Renza - You need a preset to work with, you can only get so far and change the appearance of a sin(or any other char) so much. You probably only notice that they looks like other sins because sins are over populated.
If your argument is that their edits aren't unique, because there is a chance of other people with a char that looks the same, then whats the point of having threads like these or editing at all, no matter which angle you look at it (the scenario, not the sins) no char would be unique in that case, since there is the option of anyone in the world who could share the same characters look.
If I followed your rules on judging, your chars wouldn't be unique either, since someone else has the same looks, SOMEONE in ANY server, is bound to share the same look.(limitations on the range of settings pwi provides, obvs)

If you take a closer look between the chars, you can see the fine line against the presets, and the edited version. If you can't tell the minor differences that divide them, then you may want to see an eye doctor...js.
You say there is more to editing the face, then moving things around and moving the jaw... Lol....I fell off my chair laughing at that statement.... HAHAHA
What do you think you are editing when you are changing features on a sins face?
Clearly the changes other people have made were done in advanced settings, so more than what you have just mentioned...
The Majority of editing is in the face, apart from the other body parts, so the jaw/jaw line/eyes/ forehead/ and all those other settings I am not going to list them all, but you might want to take a look at them.
inb4: I know them || I been editing more than you blah blah blah
if you had performed the above tasks ^^ you'd be able to see the differences.

The people with the ability to judge would be able to tell and spot the difference between the changes made, no matter how minor they are. Those minor changes are the ones that make the difference, and support the view of the editors intended purpose.

Also, ever thought about the sins were provided with better graphics, and already look good as presets? so there is only a limit to how much you can improve something.....
Might want to think about that one.

So take a closer look, before bringing in negative comments.
You have only mentioned that they look similar, haven't actually specified what looks the same.
IF you go through each feature, you'll see it, if not... lol like I said, go see an eye doctor.

Accalica - Heavens Tear

Renza, I don't quite get your idea about what customizing/editing is if its as u describe it, "more to editing a face then just moving things about a little and moving the jaw up." Because in all honesty if you remake a preset of a sin, there's no significantly big difference from one side of a setting to the other when it comes to cheek depth 'n the likes (these matter on chins the most, but they tend to look kinda spaced out if you overdo it from the preset). What can we change to look different..the color? U give us nothing to work with, yet say u can do a better job pretty much.
The whole "I can tell from which preset they are" is quite a fun statement, anyone used to editing toon faces should considering their face tattoos are bound to the ID of their facial texture and there arn't very many to chose from compared to the humans/elves starting presets...so yah..not much of a statement there tbh.

Since you wanted a hint of my preset, I won't send it to anyone I already declared that earlier..but just to state that I didn't move them "a little", and if this isn't editing within the advanced mode, idk what is to be quite honest. Franqly tired of people using the word "preset", that's the only reason I even bother to try and declare anything. b:surrender

NiightmareXz - Harshlands

Here's mine too. o.o Granted I changed her hair and she was making a face when i was taking a screenshot. (i don't actually have her lips in a frown face)
I know i didn't change some sliders but if i did, it would look really fugly.
But yeah, people seem to throw around "preset" for TBs too much. Some of them I can see, and I do the same sometimes too. There's a big different between changing the colours and hairstyle and actually messing with the face sliders. Another thing that makes it hard to customize is the whole facial tattoo thing, I think that's a fallback people use to justify saying the TB's are "presets". Well no **** - everyone edits from a preset, and if there's a hint of preset in the character, people scream it out. There's gonna be people with the same tattoos as you, it's kinda a given seeing you have about 4 tattoos to choose from... doesn't make your character any less original. b:surrender

Kerona - Sanctuary

Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »

Perhaps you did edit "everything" you could do, doesn't change the fact that it looks like the other 500 sins I've seen roaming about, I can easily notice just about any preset as soon as I see it, reason being that I actually take notice of what a dang preset looks like when I'm on the char screen trying to make my own, I'm not saying it looks like a preset because I don't like the look of the character, if that was the case, I would of said so, but yeah, there's more to editing a face then just moving things about a little and moving the jaw up.

If you want, send me the file of your character preset and I'll take a look at it so I can see for my self and perhaps even make some sort of edits that you may like, don't even have to keep it, but I don't get my jollies from telling people that either their character sucks or its a preset, I just say what I think.

I'm sure your cleric looks like every other cleric out there, IJS.

Renza - Raging Tide

People say TB are just as hard as editing a EG, id say they are to some respect though TB still have more trouble, yeah i can see you moved some bars quite far across, though there's only so much you can do with them if you havn't properly bothered to edit the actual face proportions before the advanced tab, change the eye shape with them buttons and then edit the eyes shape your self, same with the nose and mouth, I don't know what much to say acca but from my view, it just looks to similar, nightmares I'll actually give some cred to as from that view it looks quite good, I have a psy that looks fairly decent with the small amount of time i bothered to edit it and doesn't look far to similar to the others, to the mystery person with the wall-o-text, just stop "talking".

Also to kerona, you haven't seen my cleric, ijs.

Kerona - Sanctuary

Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »

People say TB are just as hard as editing a EG, id say they are to some respect though TB still have more trouble, yeah i can see you moved some bars quite far across, though there's only so much you can do with them if you havn't properly bothered to edit the actual face proportions before the advanced tab, change the eye shape with them buttons and then edit the eyes shape your self, same with the nose and mouth, I don't know what much to say acca but from my view, it just looks to similar, nightmares I'll actually give some cred to as from that view it looks quite good, I have a psy that looks fairly decent with the small amount of time i bothered to edit it and doesn't look far to similar to the others, to the mystery person with the wall-o-text, just stop "talking".

Also to kerona, you haven't seen my cleric, ijs.

Then show us.
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
If not willing to show for some odd reason, letting us know to completely disregard your opinion from now on.

Renza - Raging Tide

Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »

Then show us.
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
If not willing to show for some odd reason, letting us know to completely disregard your opinion from now on.

You want to see my cleric that I havn't used or customed in over a year?
Also I'm not throwing stones, if you seem to be "butthurt" over me saying something about a game characters appearance, that also has nothing to do with you, then perhaps you need to step away from your PC, you can disregard what ever you want as well, see if I care.

Accalica - Heavens Tear

I won't bother repeating my own statements again when it comes to the customization of my sin, time to move on - atleast on my behalf, as im pleased 'n happy with the way my sin looks in the end.

Now I wanna see some more people to rate, come on and post guys n gals b:victoryb:dirty

Kerona - Sanctuary

Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »

You want to see my cleric that I havn't used or customed in over a year?
Also I'm not throwing stones, if you seem to be "butthurt" over me saying something about a game characters appearance, that also has nothing to do with you, then perhaps you need to step away from your PC, you can disregard what ever you want as well, see if I care.

Butthurt? I wasn't even involved. Nice try though.
I just came in, saw someone being a jerk to nice people, and called them on it. As you tried to wiggle your way out of posting your toon, my point is proven.

Yes, I want to see your cleric that you haven't used or customed in over a year. I want to see what toon you are playing now. Show us. Show us how amazingly customized it is.

Hazumi_chan - Sanctuary

I'm gonna agree with what (I think it was Reikara?) posted earlier. Someone should make a thread called "Rate a character: Preset or not?"
~.~ Sure, some (mostly tideborn) look a lot like the presets, but the presets look good .-.
/doesn't understand what the fuzz is all about all the time .-.

Renza - Raging Tide

Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »

Butthurt? I wasn't even involved. Nice try though.
I just came in, saw someone being a jerk to nice people, and called them on it. As you tried to wiggle your way out of posting your toon, my point is proven.

Yes, I want to see your cleric that you haven't used or customed in over a year. I want to see what toon you are playing now. Show us. Show us how amazingly customized it is.

My "new" main, that being my EG, I've been keeping it to my self, only a few people know who It is and it will stay that way, I'll show you a sin that I don't use instead seemings as I'm "criticizing" sins and how hard it is to do.



What I think gets me off on sins, is there lips, seems to be hard to pull it off from not looking to similar, at least in my eyes, also not posting for the rating, more of showing kerona that I' don't live in a glass house throwing stones", though again, had nothing to do with it, also, while were at it, let's see your char, unless you have something to hide your self?

Kerona - Sanctuary

Yes...



Totally hiding.

Renza - Raging Tide

Now all you need to do is take the wigs off and take away the earth guard eyes so we can fully see the custom, course, why would you do that? *cough*

Kerona - Sanctuary

Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »

Now all you need to do is take the wigs off and take away the earth guard eyes so we can fully see the custom, course, why would you do that? *cough*

Oh?

I didn't know you cared so much. b:victory




Are they CUSTOM enough for you rofl
And you can rate these if you want, I'm just here to prove a point xD

In case you're curious, the psy was meant to look like one of these. How'd I do?

Renza - Raging Tide

Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »

How'd I do?

I'll answer that with, you say I'm the one throwing stones from a glass house, basically saying "I can't say anything until I show any good custom worth bothering", then that's the best you could come up with? b:lipcurl

p.s, nice side view.

Kerona - Sanctuary

Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »

I'll answer that with, you say I'm the one throwing stones from a glass house, basically saying "I can't say anything until I show any good custom worth bothering", then that's the best you could come up with? b:lipcurl

Lol? I never said I had good customizing skills, or that anyone was too close to a preset b:laugh

YOU did. I simply did as you asked of me, while providing material for the people who also asked for stuff to rate.

Gave the side view so you can see nose, which is also completely reworked.

And your sin is simply back to the drawing board dear, I'd scrap it. ""I can't say anything until I show any good custom worth bothering" - You didn't. It's ok.

Ta ta love. You've been great fun, and proved every point I set out to. Never has trolling been this easy!

Renza - Raging Tide

Kerona - Sanctuary wrote: »

Lol? I never said I had good customizing skills, or that anyone was too close to a preset b:laugh

YOU did. I simply did as you asked of me, while providing material for the people who also asked for stuff to rate.

Gave the side view so you can see nose, which is also completely reworked.

And your sin is simply back to the drawing board dear, I'd scrap it.

Ta ta love. You've been great fun, and proved every point I set out to. Never has trolling been this easy!

You didn't directly say you had good customizing skills, but if you're going to say what you said, then that normally involves backing up your own words as well, instead, it just looks like you embarrassed your self.

The side view of the nose shows nothing at all about it being reworked, prob get the same results from a frontal view unless I bothered to "inspect" it my self, also my sin was pretty much a good 15-20 mins perhaps worth of customing and it's came out not looking to shabby if I dare say, so that was a clear "troll".

If all this nonsense has been your idea of trolling, then I may say you failed quite hard, i'd suggest taking the "trolling 101" class again, dear, also if I may add, it looks like you passed "butthurt 101" quite well.

Murcas - Sanctuary

Ah, I have not rated in quite some time and I apologize for that; work and whatnot have prevented me from doing so. So, let's get this started, shall we?


alittletiger: A 5/5, really, namely because of the originality. At times, the white eye shadow drew my eyes away from the eyes (where they tend to go right off the bat, really.), but once I got past that, I found it to be quite lovely! I also love her hairstyle! Very cute. ^_^

VenusArmani: Digging the trend and the pumpkin head! Does want! 9000/5. In regards to more serious shots, all of your characters fit a different kind of mood, which I really love. And they're so different from one another. ^_^ Hell, I can't pick which one I like more! 5/5


Graviora: A very beautiful cleric to be sure. She actually reminds me of a representation of a Snow Queen in some Russian fairy tales. Nice! 5/5

Baby_pho: Very cute! She reminds me of a character from a Sci-Fi book or movie! Nice! She also has the cute, innocent, air around her. 5/5

Erotic: Holy ****, your Blade Master is really sexy! Please don't change him. ^_^ I like that boyish look to him and especially his eyes. His hair seems to bring out his eyes incredibly well. 5/5

Accalica: Your Seeker is gorgeous, he looks incredibly good in purple (purple is the color of loyalty and majesty. ). He actually has this more mature look to him, which I like a lot, too; most people make their Seekers to be more boyish (Nothing wrong with that!) and you stepped away from that. 5/5

NightmareXz: A very beautiful character that you put a lot of love into. I love how her dark skins contrast to her very blue eyes. And, as odd as this sounds, the armor actually accentuates her features. Like I said, an odd observation but nonetheless, there it is. She sort of reminds me of Casca from Berserk, which makes me like her even more. 5/5

MikoTenshi: Both of your characters are nice looking. ^^ I love light colored hair due to the fact that it makes ones face stand out more, even better if it's framed evenly or in a style that is aesthetically pleasing. Her eyes, which some people deem to be too big, is actually made to look smaller due to her hair style. Nice selection of colors and style. Your Earth Guard is cute, too. I don't like her as much as your sin if only because her face is a bit squashed as it were. However, it's not right of me to say what looks good and what doesn't merely because I don't like the style of art that it looks like to me (Looks more to be of shoujo type look, I could be very wrong, though). 5/5 for both.

Meinwen: Your character is quite pretty, actually. Her darker skin and her piercing eyes really works wonders for her. Her hair style is really nice and is realistically done. I also love the fashion you chose for her, it works very well for, I think. 5/5

Silken_: I like your character because of her strong, no nonsense, look. She looks somewhat like a warrior goddess in my opinion. She has a real determined, very charismatic look to her. It's wonderful. ^_^ 5/5

Verbicide: A very, very, handsome character. His pale skin, pale hair, and dark eyes really go well together. He looks like he could lift a house, which is awesome. I'd say he's a mix between Narcissus and Atlas in terms of deity wise. I also like the ":/" look on his face. It really made me laugh. ^^ 5/5

Runelle: Again, I love really dark skin, it looks exotic and quite pretty. Her emerald eyes are what stand out to me the most, though. I also love the hair style! Quite cute and fitting for her. 5/5

Elanxu: Oooh, pretty! She sort of reminds me of Emma Frost, fashion wise. Also, Emma has blonde hair in most (if not all) renditions of the Marvel Universe. Emma was actually one of my favorite antagonist turned protagonist in the X-Men series due to the fact that she was an incredibly skilled leader, if not a bit capricious. ^^ She also gave Xavier quite a bit of hassle, which made me like her even more! 5/5

Ktarriana : Simply stunning! I don't know why, but her hair and eyes give me a sense of dignity. She looks as if she's a queen or a shaman of sorts in a very powerful tribe. Also, her nose is really, really cute. I don't know I felt as if I should share that, but I did. XD Your Seeker looks nice, too. She has more of an equine shaped face, which I like due to the fact that I a) think horses are beautiful, noble, and fertile creations and they are an integral part of any form of mythos, whether it be Asian, European, or Native American. b) horses have well defined faces and their mane, if kept correctly, can be quite stunning. ^^ Very nice. 5/5

Hitsuzen: I'm loving the more modern look that you've given her! She looks like one of those people that are stylish and yet know when enough is enough in regards to garments and accessories. And her eyebrows are so well shaped and nicely colored. I also love her eyes. (Then again, I think eyes are truly a window to the soul, even in video games!) 5/5

dimthought: So cute! She has a cute, expressive, face. That sulk and those hooded eyes make me smile for some reason. And such a beautiful dress, nicely colored, too! Also, you're a cat Veno which, in my server anyway, is rather rare. So kudos to you for such a creative character. ^_^ 5/5

Kerona: She's quite cute! The witch's costume looks nice on you! The dark colors contrast quite well with your pale skin. Her light blue eyes and red lips gives off a very big fair tale vibe and I like it quite a bit. Very nice! I also like your cleric (archer), she has a sultry look that just says: "Come hither, you!"

Um and that's it, because all the other pictures posted are trying to prove a point, which is not in the spirit of this thread, really.

Sorry it's so long, I just wanted to comment on the nice characters. I might post my characters later on if I'm bored/get over being self-conscious about my characters. Lol.

Kerona - Sanctuary

Renza - Raging Tide wrote: »

You didn't directly say you had good customizing skills, but if you're going to say what you said, then that normally involves backing up your own words as well, instead, it just looks like you embarrassed your self.

The side view of the nose shows nothing at all about it being reworked, prob get the same results from a frontal view unless I bothered to "inspect" it my self, also my sin was pretty much a good 15-20 mins perhaps worth of customing and it's came out not looking to shabby if I dare say, so that was a clear "troll".

If all this nonsense has been your idea of trolling, then I may say you failed quite hard, i'd suggest taking the "trolling 101" class again, dear.

So it's my fault you make stuff up in your head to try to create an insult when you have nothing. b:pleased There seems to be something more going on here! Perhaps you realized you can't criticize these people who made beautiful toons with actual customization on them?

Oh deary, I didn't embarass myself. You did and still are. b:chuckle That sin. You criticize people for not wanting to look like that and working hard to create something unique that looks good, then present that as an example of your customization work. This kind of superior attitude is the reason I commented in the first place. Who are you to call that lovely sin "just a preset"? b:laugh

I'll show you a sin that I don't use instead seemings as I'm "criticizing" sins and how hard it is to do

You failed so hard I actually laughed out loud when I saw your sin creation. And you have the right to criticize people? You won't even post the toon you actually use on a day to day basis OR your cleric. ahaha But wait, wait, lemme go back a page...

If you want, send me the file of your character preset and I'll take a look at it so I can see for my self and perhaps even make some sort of edits that you may like, don't even have to keep it, but I don't get my jollies from telling people that either their character sucks or its a preset, I just say what I think.

I'd be ashamed at myself.

Nothing at all? Yes, noses usually come in a ( shape in PWI. Can you even identify the preset I used for the archer? Go ahead and try.

I dismissed you because I thought you'd actually take my advice. Clearly that was too hopeful. So again, I'll say, "when you live in a glass house don't throw rocks".
b:bye

@ Murcas - Thank you for the kind rating

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver

@Renza

Both her and nightmare's slider's have clearly been reworked just as much as your have been to provide a unique looking character. I think what you're confusing here is that lot of people in the Rate a character thread go for those particular looks. Just like every mystic out there goes for the platinum blonde hair and blue eyed look. The doll look also has very specific characteristics that make each doll look similar to the next one unless you're paying close attention (Big eyes, round face, tiny nose and lips) to the minor differences. Both characters you're pointing out as being preset-y are actually not preset-y at all, they are using extremely popular features though and so you've no doubt seen people who are running around looking like them



@Kerona

Your elf is pretty cute, and I like the wigs you've used on her. Don't really care for her nose though. 3.5/5

Your fish is also cute but something is off about her eyebrows, dunno what. It's less noticable with the wig you've put on her. 3.5/5



@thread


I'm thinking about playing my veno again, just for the **** and giggles but leaving her factionless. b:shocked Since she hasn't been given a makeover in 2 years, i'd appreciate a rating and suggestions. ^^ Also don't see how lack of activity, or how long ago you made your char has anything to do with how preset-y it looks. Either you played with the sliders or you didn't. :P

Renza - Raging Tide

Kerona + army of text = "moar butthurt than evor", not going to bother responding properly as you're just failing at trolling as I already said.

I did say venus after nightmare posted her sin again, just with the simple straight forward view, I could see the custom perfectly, again I know it's hard to get a good sin custom, so I'll just save time and give it a 4/5 for uniqueness, though seriously, editing the sliders on the advanced tab only does so much, you can actually do a hella lot more without even touching the advanced tab, it just simply helps a bit, thats it, it's just "me" to say if I see a preset or not, I'm not bothered if it's the most ugliest custom in the world or the best one I've ever seen, as long as it simply looks like the person actually got the face away from the preset before slapping it up for a rating, in which a lot of people that don't know much of the difference will rate it anyway, suppose it's a personality thing really.