best damage dealer?

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  • Jeagerjaques - Lost City
    Jeagerjaques - Lost City Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    Stickygreen - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    sound like a white kid.... from Malibus most wanted.... lol

    LMFAO I loved that movie! lol. "Brothers, can't we just all get along?" haha
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  • Lunati - Sanctuary
    Lunati - Sanctuary Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Stickygreen - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    venos dont deal high damage at all lol

    Wait, what? I deal 3.5 - 4k damage on average - and no I don't have a legendary weapon - and up to 8 if I crit. And I crit a lot, thanks to great equipment. (Give or take some, depending on the level and element of the mob I'm killing.) That's not even including my pet damage, which is around 500 - 800. It's not a phoenix, either (yet. *crosses fingers*) And I'm pure int build. Venos can do insanely high damage if built right // wearing appropriate gear. </endrant>

    Sorry, but I'm tired of everyone hating on the venos. >.>

    Yes, we all know that Mages and Archers pwn very much, and no, I'm not trying to say that venos are better (though a high level veno + equal level phoenix = your funeral), but it strikes me as slightly ironic that a barb is talking about DPS. Last time I checked, barbs weren't DPS - barbs are essentially there to be big fuzzy shields and protect the DPSers. -.o

    ANYWAY, back to the topic.

    Archers do a lot of criticals, so in that respect they have insane DPS.
    Mages can switch elements + buffs to do the most effective damage against other elements, so THEY have insane DPS.

    Both classes have their pros and cons, and both classes can be excellent if built and used by a competent player. End of story.. Can we PLEASE stop bickering and move on now? Kthxbye.
  • Hidden - Lost City
    Hidden - Lost City Posts: 338 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    do clerics get the same magic/100 dmg multiplier that wizards get?

    @Shiningon,

    The majority of damage increases come from better weapons each 10 lvls, and upgraded spells every few lvls. Your predictions are far from realistic, and honestly your damage screenshot isnt all that impressive. I'd post mine but u'd just argue im 5 lvls higher and at my level u'd be doing 15k more dmg or something.
  • Bolinhas - Lost City
    Bolinhas - Lost City Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    can you give me a link ro the clerics discussion?
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  • Bolinhas - Lost City
    Bolinhas - Lost City Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Bolinhas = n00b, I don-t know how to work properly with this forum things, I'm sorry
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  • Stickygreen - Heavens Tear
    Stickygreen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,158 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    venos dont do high damage at all. they have slow casting and channeling, which their damage does not make up for.
    Less QQ more Pew Pewb:thanks

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  • Cosmos - Heavens Tear
    Cosmos - Heavens Tear Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Shiningon is hilarious. Nice comedy, buddy.
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  • Wei - Heavens Tear
    Wei - Heavens Tear Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Stickygreen - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    venos dont do high damage at all. they have slow casting and channeling, which their damage does not make up for.

    Depends on what you mean by "high damage".
    1.spike damage
    in pvp, with the "notorious"(esp. from a phoenix) bleed, they obviously do some great spike damage.
    in pve, of course, venos are not made for showing off your beautify single crit numbers. but wait, whats the point for doing this in pve anyway? to steal aggro from the tank at start? (hint: you want sustainable damage for pve, esp. for bosses and do more damage overall)

    2.sustainable damage
    in pvp, again with the bleed skill...its spammable
    in pve, we can just do a simple test: choose a player from each class(you probably want them to be at same level). ask them to grind on certain mobs for, say, 30mins. see who kills more. by your logic, venos should kill slow and less than others if not the least. even w/o a phoenix, i dont think its true.
  • Dar_Malkier - Lost City
    Dar_Malkier - Lost City Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Awwwwwwww man, this thread ended.....and here I was enjoying the rather....ummmm..."heated" discussion about EP vs Mage. b:chuckle

    In the end, every class has it's uses and every class can kill every other if it's built and played properly. (well, maybe not a WR killing a WB (those meat tanks just don't want to die)) b:surrender As for myself, I play a WR, a FAC, and a Mage. All three are fun to play and all three can put out impressive numbers when played properly.

    When everything's said and done, who really cares who the highest DD is regardless of whether it's Spike damage, DPS, PVE, PVP, etc.? Isn't the most important thing finding a class that fits your preferred play style and just enjoying playing that character?
  • Granrey - Sanctuary
    Granrey - Sanctuary Posts: 2,050 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Dar_Malkier - Lost City wrote: »
    Awwwwwwww man, this thread ended.....and here I was enjoying the rather....ummmm..."heated" discussion about EP vs Mage. b:chuckle

    In the end, every class has it's uses and every class can kill every other if it's built and played properly. (well, maybe not a WR killing a WB (those meat tanks just don't want to die)) b:surrender As for myself, I play a WR, a FAC, and a Mage. All three are fun to play and all three can put out impressive numbers when played properly.

    When everything's said and done, who really cares who the highest DD is regardless of whether it's Spike damage, DPS, PVE, PVP, etc.? Isn't the most important thing finding a class that fits your preferred play style and just enjoying playing that character?


    You nailed.

    I play BM with dual swords and I enjoy the looks, the moves, the style, the weapons of my character, even though other classes I find are more efficient than mine.

    I've been told when my character get to level 40, it will improve a lot, but who knows and who cares anyways? This is just a game.

    I enjoy facing the mobs right in their turf rather than doing something from distance. As expectaror, BM is probably the best class to see in action and many players actually tell me that when they see my character.

    Archers/wizards fight from too far away but they do it quick. The others take too long to kill something or the veno is too far away too. I actually make fun of tanks sometimes and tell then:"this is how long it should take you to kill this mob, WATCH" LOL

    The only thing I envy from other classes is a usefull pet. We should be allowed to have one even to pick coins for you as you leave a path of destruction behind you. Kinda like a dog retriever.
  • fuzzles
    fuzzles Posts: 628 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Dar_Malkier - Lost City wrote: »
    Awwwwwwww man, this thread ended.....and here I was enjoying the rather....ummmm..."heated" discussion about EP vs Mage.

    What discussion? Mages are better DDs. We'd established that quite a while ago. b:chuckle

    There's just one tweedle-dum who insists that clerics are better. That's not a discussion.

    You don't see a monkey throwing faeces at the walls and call it a 'discussion'.
    Everyone here is ridiculously oversensitive.
  • AndromedaB - Sanctuary
    AndromedaB - Sanctuary Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    TO END THIS SILLY DISCUSSION

    at my current level (60) these are the damages on a shrunkin warrior (south of arrowhead mannor we devided the time it took to kill it by the mobs hp b:pleased)
    (NO BUFFS POTS OR ANYTHING)
    MAGE (full int mage. basicly me)
    5.1k-6k dps (5k on normal 6k on a good element)

    ARHER (full dex archer)
    5.2k dps
    this figure would be higher if we included crits
    basicly adding 1/6 of a hit because their crit rate is around 16% which means around 1 extra hit every 6 hits basicly
    but then again... they miss sometimes so it cancles abit
    also they lose 1/2 of their damage when they are close

    CLERIC
    5.1k dps (regular biuld)
    4.5k dps (team biuld LA with enough str, mag and dex to use EQ and rest to health)
    5.3k dps (full int attack biuld)
    but the thing is... FAP cant buff or heal properly and their atttack is pretty much the same as a mage BUT they have less elements
    regular and team biuld get invited to squads while FAP gets kicked most of the time

    BM
    1.8k dps not too impressive (sword)

    BARB
    didnt really bother b:laugh

    VENO
    4.6k (with a legendary pet b:angry )
    duno how much with a crystaline maglimite or whatever they are called



    IN THE END
    ARCHER + MAGE = best dps
    archers do phys dps and mages do magic dps (except blade tempest which is 1/2 phys)
    BM and VENO are good solo classes with good buffs and are very useful but not great dps
    CLERICS are meant for healing and buffs. FAP get kicked cuz they cant heal and if we wanted a dps we woulda called for an archer or mage
    BARB miniscule damage but hey! u got alot of hp which means u can probably do more damage before u die. that and in pk u can always run :P except from a good mage using essential sutra LOL
  • wenh93
    wenh93 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
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    last time plz stop postin b:victory
  • goshdarnit13
    goshdarnit13 Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    How about this:
    Instead of who does the most damage, or who owns the most battles, lets ask which attack/skill does the most damage (thus cancelling out buffs/debuffs) and which class can use this skill?
    Cleric is obviously out.
    So is Venomancer.
    Barbarian is also probably not this class.
    Wizard is a possibility, along with Archer and Blademaster
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    nooooes teh necro~


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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Dang, kinda of an old post.... very very old....
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  • eatwithspoons
    eatwithspoons Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Please try not to resurrect threads that have been inactive for over a month. If the topic is something you wish to bring up again, you are more than welcome to create a new thread on the same subject b:victory
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