Upcoming G17/R5 weapon release in PW-CN Discussion

eternalghost

I wanna get purify and gof on my daggers, then I shall have the ultimate TT farming sin XD Emp you wanna bubble me?!? No 'ing way!! XD

sheldon69890

If this is real, i'll just stop the game at all... first cause i wont cash again after am getting full josd, also the server will be empty...

catgirldesu

Regardless of what I say before we get updates and regardless of my rant-like posts at times, I usually try to keep an open mind when it comes to future updates. Things on paper and in theory are sometimes/often different when you actually experience them in-game.

This time though... these weapons just sound so crazy and absurd. I'm afraid of what's going to happen when/if we get them. They should have nerfed Purify proc and gave us the ability to re-roll weapon procs on R9+ weapons. But no, better give everyone the ability to get Purify proc! Even better, let's add even more questionably-OP procs and quite possibly better-than-Purify procs on top of it, just for some variety!​​

limonazza

how do you kill a cata barb with any of those defensive procs?​​

shade13

limonazza wrote: »

how do you kill a cata barb with any of those defensive procs?

Easily. As a mage you will have zc on your weap too. Lolol

I guess those weaps are being testing on chinese beta right now?
God of Frenzy for an archer is a mistake.
Arcanes, bye. As like they aren't already on bottom of the food chain.

And if so, double damage on mag weap should have way better proc rate. Cuz compare our crit and light armor crit rate...​​

jabq

I'll just wait patiently until we get more info after the 19th nov to see how these weapons work. It would make tm lunar much easier for my bm with purify proc.​​

blazerboy

Id like to ask the arcane do you hear yourselves when you say yall deserve GoF? First of all how many universal magic buffs compared to p.def like 1 to 2. How many magic classes I see have 40k-50kp.def and yet its rare for a physical class to have more then 32km.def buffed and we have only like 4-5k hp diff which makes a diff when we hit yall 3k and you hit like 10k and you guys feel entitled to GoF really... If anything the classes that get CCed the most w.o a anti stun deserve puri spell proc but magic classes like SB,wiz and psy who nuke up to 20k-40k on phy classes now you want that to be hiting 40k-80k while we hit you 20k if lucky are you serious guys....

shade13

blazerboy wrote: »

Id like to ask the arcane do you hear yourselves when you say yall deserve GoF? First of all how many universal magic buffs compared to p.def like 1 to 2. How many magic classes I see have 40k-50kp.def and yet its rare for a physical class to have more then 32km.def buffed and we have only like 4-5k hp diff which makes a diff when we hit yall 3k and you hit like 10k and you guys feel entitled to GoF really... If anything the classes that get CCed the most w.o a anti stun deserve puri spell proc but magic classes like SB,wiz and psy who nuke up to 20k-40k on phy classes now you want that to be hiting 40k-80k while we hit you 20k if lucky are you serious guys....

HP differense can reach 20k and more thanks to passives.
GoF rocks because of high crit rate. Now classes with GoF usually have from 50 to 80-90% crit rate which makes GoF proc really often. Now imagine GoF combined with 30% crit... And don't forget inkdragon blood and dusk buff here which makes LA/HA crit rate slightly nerfed and arcane's nearly useless.
Doesn't matter how many pdef and mdef buffs we have in game if HA mdef is nearly as high as arcane's pdef, but HA hp is 15-20k higher (rough maths) and ha/la crit and GoF and zc way more often.
And damage which nowadays arcanes deal to heavy/light armor you may test in calc. But if it impresses you, you probably forgot to shard or refine something ​​

razzzza

@shade13 GoF proc has nothing to do with critrate. i assume you only mean the zerk crits then yea.​​

keihan007#7641

shade13 said:

HP differense can reach 20k and more thanks to passives.

GoF rocks because of high crit rate. Now classes with GoF usually have from 50 to 80-90% crit rate which makes GoF proc really often. Now imagine GoF combined with 30% crit... And don't forget inkdragon blood and dusk buff here which makes LA/HA crit rate slightly nerfed and arcane's nearly useless.

Doesn't matter how many pdef and mdef buffs we have in game if HA mdef is nearly as high as arcane's pdef, but HA hp is 15-20k higher (rough maths) and ha/la crit and GoF and zc way more often.

And damage which nowadays arcanes deal to heavy/light armor you may test in calc. But if it impresses you, you probably forgot to shard or refine something ​​

The problem with LA m.def is being forced to use p.def necks. This results to relatively small m.def number, mine is barely over 30k buffed and its actually relatively high m.def number for an archer. I miss jades but being hit by 20k+ crits by certain psys is kinda demoralizing.

shade13

razzzza wrote: »

@shade13 GoF proc has nothing to do with critrate. i assume you only mean the zerk crits then yea.

I know GoF != crit rate, but yes, I meant that chance for zerk crit is much better if you have high crit rate. And zc shows really good numbers, nothing to complain about.​​

mulier

g17, if released in this way , either gonna kill the game, or resets the servers... casue every little fker with r9 +12 is gonna **** quit this sht of a game...

r9 to g17 upgrades,, ok ,, we can speak bout that ....

but shelfing out another 3-5k for endgame equips... is not gonna happen, for most of the servers population....

mulier

reduced defense by 100% for offensive procs seems very broken aswell ,,, still depends what 100% in pwi terms is gonna mean ... veno combo nuking for everyone

the defense 8 sec invulnerability seems a tad too much aswell,,, kinda depending on the procrate alot...

shade13

mulier wrote: »

reduced defense by 100% for offensive procs seems very broken aswell ,,, still depends what 100% in pwi terms is gonna mean ... veno combo nuking for everyone

Nopes. Myriad rainbow, veno debuff, also reduces def for 100%, in stats it is barely 10% from your overall defense less because average char has much more than 100% defense. Only primal passive adds 80%, add cards and other stuff here. Thus, -100% def ends up with extra 20-30% damage after proc. Relax It's the most useless skill in the list.​​

mulier

oh, was hoping for atleast some *choice* to be made ...

seems like everyone will roll for the same stats then - still dont like the direction the game is heading.,,, AT ALL


my qq end now :P

limonazza

mulier wrote: »

oh, was hoping for atleast some *choice* to be made ...

seems like everyone will roll for the same stats then - still dont like the direction the game is heading.,,, AT ALL


my qq end now :P

also if the debuff have same icon of the common phys ele debuffs, it wont even stack with other debuffs making it really really useless​​

jadasia

mulier said:

g17, if released in this way , either gonna kill the game, or resets the servers... casue every little fker with r9 +12 is gonna **** quit this sht of a game...

r9 to g17 upgrades,, ok ,, we can speak bout that ....

but shelfing out another 3-5k for endgame equips... is not gonna happen, for most of the servers population....

Nothing in this game is truly 'end game' considering the devs have been moving that goal post for years. Why do people not get this? It's nothing new.

blazerboy

@shade13 im full +11 with +12 magic def orns with jsod seeker through defense charm @limonazza can still nuke me like 20k no problem and 15-20k applies to when your full plus 12 but plus 10 or 11 i dont think is a major difference in hp for arcanes to hit 10-20k while we hit then maybe 4-7k physical class wise especially classes like demon cleric with no CD or much channel time magic primal skill ijs

blazerboy

Btw GoF has nothing to do with crit % on a physical class yes we need Zerk crit to do any significant damange and thats deoending on crit % and also the 25% proc rate of GOF (dont quote me on this I think thats what I was told) A magic class crits and thats devastating even with endgame gear. Imagine a zerk or a zerk crit thats completely nonsense also magic doesn't miss in this game while physical does and yes we all know damn well all of you have survived a a zerk hit by doding it atleast once, even though enemy has x2 accuracy rings its possible.

P.S wiz can have a crapload of crit % when they use fire primal shell that would be a artillery round walking around the hell... Hell a full mag veno purge + amp + human form zerk crit dead wtf? They can crit alot of ppl dead with that combo and you wanna add zerk ok guys ok as if mag classes didnt rule tw anways...you people want way too much here...

tictic99999

the actual broken class will be mystics with their new next 3 skills gaurentee crit. Not like they aren't already broken, just no one plays them.​​

chary

tictic99999 wrote: »

the actual broken class will be mystics with their new next 3 skills gaurentee crit. Not like they aren't already broken, just no one plays them.

Ehhh...Absorb Soul can't crit and neither can Thicket so it's not as bad as you're making it seem. AS is also not affected by either form of penetration so adding a little more DD power onto mystic to make up for that is okay.​​

sarrafeline

I'd like a GoF bow, please, thx.

darkonome

GoF + Purify bow*

razzzza

im actually not too sure about what would be best on daggers..
GoF sure its an awesome ability to have but the crit+30%, critDMG+30% one sounds awesome too and is not so RNG like gof is.
When it comes down to that, the crit one would give any sin 100% critrate and 50-70% more crit dmg where gof gives 20~25% chance to deal 100% more dmg with one hit for the cost of 5% HP.
But we have to know how high the chance is that this procs..

defence wise its the same, sure its easy to say that purify is a neat spell but look at the immune to damage ones.. when its the same proc rate its a very nice spell to have and nets you almost invulnerability for the whole fight (considering it procs when you are invincible like purify does) and you get hit by more people like in NW.

But as this stands here, i would like to have GoF+Compassion. might rethink my choice when the procrates are a bit more clear though ​​

matthieudoncacci

razzzza said:

im actually not too sure about what would be best on daggers..

GoF sure its an awesome ability to have but the crit+30%, critDMG+30% one sounds awesome too and is not so RNG like gof is.

When it comes down to that, the crit one would give any sin 100% critrate and 50-70% more crit dmg where gof gives 20~25% chance to deal 100% more dmg with one hit for the cost of 5% HP.

But we have to know how high the chance is that this procs..



defence wise its the same, sure its easy to say that purify is a neat spell but look at the immune to damage ones.. when its the same proc rate its a very nice spell to have and nets you almost invulnerability for the whole fight (considering it procs when you are invincible like purify does) and you get hit by more people like in NW.



But as this stands here, i would like to have GoF+Compassion. might rethink my choice when the procrates are a bit more clear though ​​

I completely agree with you . For def, I ll go for compassion and for offense I hesitate between the crit buff or the removing 100% pdef and mdef. The last one can be completely deadly for a deity sin. Calculations have to be made.
It is as you said all a question of probability to proc.

bloodedone87

G17 weapons skin or looks or what ever you wanna call it:

catgirldesu

To be honest, I think the designs are pretty cool, and definitely much better than the current R9rr skins although I do like the R8r/R9rr Pataka more than the regular R9 one. That is an exception though. ​​

shivydrasic

The Weapons may be on the chineese server, but our server has it different, right now or even before G17, china had R10 already in their game from what I heard, while ours got r9 3rd. but I cant wait for the housing

dblazen1

shivydrasic wrote: »

The Weapons may be on the chineese server, but our server has it different, right now or even before G17, china had R10 already in their game from what I heard, while ours got r9 3rd. but I cant wait for the housing

"Everything on the internet is true"
-Morgan Freeman

China did not have R10, their max was also R9rr, but their version of it is different from ours.​​

shivydrasic

dblazen1 said:

shivydrasic wrote: »

The Weapons may be on the chineese server, but our server has it different, right now or even before G17, china had R10 already in their game from what I heard, while ours got r9 3rd. but I cant wait for the housing

"Everything on the internet is true"

-Morgan Freeman



China did not have R10, their max was also R9rr, but their version of it is different from ours.​​

Ah I see, then I wonder how this will turn out then if or when its released in our server. hopefully it wont get rid of the r9 3rd as r9did to r8 2nd in some sense