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so about pvp tournament in 4 days ...
vinceent1
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i am not ingame till evening so i cant check news, but do you notice pvp season tournament in calendar? starting in 4 days, if i am not mistaken. what is your hopes, dream, expectations, opinions? there are better rewards than just plain ad and glory looks like, its a chance for pvpers to step in, show that pvp worth a dev concern? discuss....
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Yeah cause equipping/unequipping stuff is really hard to do...
Just make so you cant change gear once you start the queue and in the pvp area.
As an european player i must wait 2.00 3.00 am to fight valid players and this is not possible in this period of the year.
My play time is limited to 21.30 24.00
This alone driven me away from pvping since i reached a near bis equip
So you probably wont find me and many other players like me in this tournament
Rank 7 max for normal ench and perfect for armor weapon and all given elemental armor when entering pvp zone.
This is ofc for future as they wont have time to implement it now but is doeble for sure.....
The environment needs to be a solo queue with a stricter matchmaking than currently. I would assume a team has worked on the league for quite some time now and that Thursday's patch will actually introduce changes.
No it's not for the reasons I stated.
all i have to say is- Devs are you f....kidding me?
You mean there are other classes you can choose from?!?! Did anyone else know about this!?
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From what I read, you have to queue for Domination pvp. You earn new pvp currency per match then trade them for rewards at the event NPC like usual.
For more details, hover you mouse over Calendar, it will show you what exactly the even is about and also rewards.
Here is some top rewards:
-Armor landshark mount - Legendary rank.
-Landshark mount - Epic rank.
-A chest contains one piece of Elemental Burning gears (Upgraded from Burning gears).
-A chest contains one Brilliant Diamond (250k RP).
-A chest contains one of new (I guess) pvp rings/belts/cloaks.
But as many have pointed out.. due to just a tremendous amount of company mistakes since mod 4(when the unleashed a massive amount of discrepancy in gear) it just has gotten worse. Mod 5.. made all non tr players fume.. they corrected that to a extent but they totally ignored repeated requests to stop gear progression.
For the most part, most legit players dont want to invest every single AD we make into one toon, alot of us like to play the game with at least 2-3 different alts and are fed up with this progression method.
ARtifact gear, enchants blah blah blah. Just stop it.
Is this game any more fun then it was when we didnt have to continually rank stuff up? I would suggest no. It was the most fun to me in mod 2ish time frame, when having a full profound set, some self earned pvp rings or some ancient set of stuff and r8/9s was close enough to compete. It was much more fun and pvp would pop in seconds over and over.. i remember doing back to back to back to back matches over and over.. I would level up toons all the way through domination back then!
PVP in this game started going out of control mid mod 3 and it hasnt ever been quite the same since, however, I actually think mod 6.. is better then mod 4,5. Since you can pop into gg at anytime and you do in fact get some good matches in it, Ive had several come from behind wins recently and some very even matches. One BiS can totally dominate a Dom match .. but in a ten vs ten it evens it out a little.
I would love to enjoy a tourney.. but my most powerful toon right now, isnt in the league of some of these near 5k ilevel monsters. I would do ok with a 3k event though.
Im all for making people pay thier dues, but progression is out of control in this game and has been for awhile.
(Disclaimer: Some of these people have 4 or 5 trancendants sitting in their bags )
The numbers would make you laugh out loud...
Spending money, fully legit, no 3rd party, to get 1 character in their neighborhood would be in the ballpark of $10,000
Yes, Ten thousand dollars.
Else, you have premades from PvP guilds farming easily through pugs. It's not the same as now cause right now said guilds go pug premade here and there but with such rewards? Be sure they will be in domination 24/7 farming hopeless pugs to accumulate rewards.
Sure everyone will partecipate cause the rewards are too good to miss. But like that it's just another way to reward the PvP whales.
Much like:
"hear us folks! Queue for Domination this week end so you can get insane rewards for facerolling hopeless pugs with your BiS premade! Stay with us and keep spending $$$$, thanks!
I enjoy PvP and when you meet a BiS premade/ player you usually call it a day. But with no limitations this event will just be a free fest for BiS whales so they can increase even more their advantage over pugs.
Forcing players to solo queue for the duration of the event and putting approximate brackets like 1500-2000+, 2100-3000+, 3100-4000+ and 4100+ is pure common sense.
Considering the rewards you can expect the whole community to partecipate. If you say them the environment will be modified to be more fair THANKS TO THE INCREASED PVP PARTECIPATION, even more players would join.
Again, it's pure common sense to make the competition fair and give a fair chance to get the same rewards to everyone like in any other event.
This way, with current domination, it's just inviting BiS premades to parade through the tournament, facerolling pugs and filling their already fat belly with more valuable prizes, while the average player is left fighting with matchmaking.
Or with some insane lfg chat requests like "lfm PvP event 3.5k+".
May be the 24/7 BiS premades will be diluted if the whole community joins in, may be we will see matchmaking working the way it should with more players in queue, so BiS vs BiS and pug vs pug of comparable gear/ experience. Who knows...
Still, i would stay on the safe side and do what i wrote above.
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Don't you love the word free to play. LOL
And some really want us to believe it can be done fully legit in a month or so and on more toons. LOL
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It might not work in Neverwinter because of the very obviously narrower playerbase but that's kind of a chicken and egg dilemma because how many people have left in irritation being able to put up the fight a toddler would give prime Mike Tyson.
The same thing has undermined any chance of balance which is what any half decent pvp game needs for people to bother sticking with it. The bis people think pvp should be balanced around the maximum a class can pull off which makes sense and the undergeared who are the vast majority think it should be balanced for what toons in their band can pull off because that's the actual game that's played which also makes sense. Bis versus normal gears isn't really a game. You can with some verbal dexterity argue that it is but if you're doing that kind of gymnastics you're playing a different funnier game. Gear restrictions collapse that problem and you get to see who's carried by their gear and who is actually good and what classes are actually broken and then people start to stay when they have a chance to win by getting better at playing the game.
I have a dream lol but we all know what's going to go down Friday and the inevitable irritation is going to be justified.
this post is on **** point
also, there's people already at 5k item level? good gosh
Impossible. The max ilvl at this point is around 4.9k
This is EXACTLY why all stuff needs to be bound to ACCOUNT.
Mounts, artifacts, artifact gear ALL needs to be bound to the account.
I would LOVE to play alts as well and did up until about mod 3. Then it became FAR too painful to play alts. If I could, I would swap things back and forth... For the most part alot of gear can work on any class.
Artifacts and things like Belt/Neck could all easily be bound to account. I would even go so far as to say rings TOO! If I make JC lvl 25 rings on one character, why cant I give them to another?
I could then take a ton of the gear off a main, throw it on an alt however the ALT would never ger around havng to farm for PVP gear and the weapons - which are a big deal.
But this atleast would be much more alt friendly and players would be MORE willing to invest more heavily into ONE set of stuff rather than having to do it on multiple characeters.
The gear divide is far too great now, it needs to be lessened.....
I think it's the F2P model.
You need to push players into buying stuff.
A player who can get what he needs in a reasonable way without paying is not pushed to buy stuff.
So the basics are
1) make gearing up to a certain point, impossible for a normal, working human being
2) force the playerbase to deal with what BiS players can do, so they will get frustrated and pay
PvP is like that. Creating separate premade-PUG queues and brackets would not be an issue. But then the average PvP would not get facerolled by BiS whales and be pushed to pay.
The fact certain guilds ask for BiS gear to join you is also a big push for this model.
NW gives you a chance to get reasonably geared so you can still have some fun playing and get addicted. Then, when you need more (legendary artifact equipment, highest rank enchants), you have to pass a huge pay wall.
Best way to enjoy the game is assume you can do certain things and nothing else, and knowing you don't need to compete with BiS whales to have fun.
Flaw of this system is that players still have a budget/ limit in their will to spend money for a game, and frustrating them does not push the average player to spend 10k USD to be BiS, but rather go play something else when they see the game is not funny anymore.