And there are feats triggered by critical hits, and feats triggered by damage. I don't exactly see people whining about those races that get perks for that now. I am going by exactly what the Shifter race bonuses are, they actually had more. I also like how people are saying this is a class suggestion. Tells me how many people have actually picked up a DnD book in their time
Way to miss the point. Because I'm rather certain there's no racial feature that'd do the equivalent of *automatically* triggering, saaaaay, Wrathful Warrior from the GF Conqueror tree. Like your proposed guaranteed 1% temp HP at battle start would.
Way to miss the point. Because I'm rather certain there's no racial feature that'd do the equivalent of *automatically* triggering, saaaaay, Wrathful Warrior from the GF Conqueror tree. Like your proposed guaranteed 1% temp HP at battle start would.
I didn't miss the point at all, you are dodging it, completely. *golfclaps*
And while you're at it actually argue in defense of such an obviously exploitble trait instead of merely making vague gestures towards ill-defined other Feats.
Back on topic they will most likely add a race native to the realms over one that is not, so Gnome is a given next choice followed by Genasi or maybe deva (half celestial as opposed to tifling or half demonic). I would love to see Goliaths or Minotaur some type of big race as there are some small ones. The mount issue would be problematic because the proportions would be odd, but always thought a goliath on a large mountain goat would be awesome.
Back on topic they will most likely add a race native to the realms over one that is not, so Gnome is a given next choice followed by Genasi or maybe deva (half celestial as opposed to tifling or half demonic). I would love to see Goliaths or Minotaur some type of big race as there are some small ones. The mount issue would be problematic because the proportions would be odd, but always thought a goliath on a large mountain goat would be awesome.
Back on topic they will most likely add a race native to the realms over one that is not, so Gnome is a given next choice followed by Genasi or maybe deva (half celestial as opposed to tifling or half demonic). I would love to see Goliaths or Minotaur some type of big race as there are some small ones. The mount issue would be problematic because the proportions would be odd, but always thought a goliath on a large mountain goat would be awesome.
I hope Cryptic goes through the PHB in order and not just based on player wants. Honestly, planar gcreatures like Genasi and Githyanki don't ever belong in the hands of the players. Shifters are also native to FR, they live in places like Werewoods and such.
In my opinion it will be genasi, because they can make moore money about this race considering we have water, fire, earth and air genasi.
If you look at the lasrt race the dragon born, they split the mettalic and the chromatic, one by zen market and the other in lockboxes.
They can do the same thing for genasi.
Example Earth and Fire in Zen market.
Water and Air in a lockboxes.
The only problem about Genasi , that they shouild design at least 4 skins with all alterations, it could be a lot of work ^^.
In my opinion it will be genasi, because they can make moore money about this race considering we have water, fire, earth and air genasi.
If you look at the lasrt race the dragon born, they split the mettalic and the chromatic, one by zen market and the other in lockboxes.
They can do the same thing for genasi.
Example Earth and Fire in Zen market.
Water and Air in a lockboxes.
The only problem about Genasi , that they shouild design at least 4 skins with all alterations, it could be a lot of work ^^.
If you look at what Cryptic has actually have done, they've been filling out what was in PHB1, with the exclusion of Half_Orcs which were in PHB2 of the 4th edition series. PHB2 races include the Deva, Gnomes, Goliaths (aka Half-Giants), and Shifters (or half lycanthropes since werecreatures did not spread their infection in 4e DnD).
Of all I see gnomes most likely being next with probably Goliaths after, I would love for the Shifters to be included to. Of course this also depends on if Cryptic is skipping the Warlord class, which is the only class left in PHB1.
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Well, they shouldn't even be included anyways, since PCs should not be extra planar races, and I will stand by that.
Also, in 4e they are called Devas.
Tieflings were just as "extraplanar" as Aasimars the last time I checked, and they're a core player race in 4th ed IIRC. (Which is all kinds of silly in and by itself but that's beside the point.)
And unless the relevant definitions have changed an awful lot since 3.x "native outsiders" like these mongrels for most practical intents and purposes - aren't.
Tieflings were just as "extraplanar" as Aasimars the last time I checked, and they're a core player race in 4th ed IIRC. (Which is all kinds of silly in and by itself but that's beside the point.)
And unless the relevant definitions have changed an awful lot since 3.x "native outsiders" like these mongrels for most practical intents and purposes - aren't.
A teifling is created by a curse more often than by extra planar involvement. A deva can only be created by a planar being basically coming down and being naughty with humans. Not to mention most Devas are the epitome of the Lawful Stupid, something the Neverwinter player base could really be, lawful or even good.
A teifling is created by a curse more often than by extra planar involvement. A deva can only be created by a planar being basically coming down and being naughty with humans. Not to mention most Devas are the epitome of the Lawful Stupid, something the Neverwinter player base could really be, lawful or even good.
Back in the day Tieflings were the exact same thing as Aasimars and Genasi, ie. second-plus generation offspring of Prime Material humans and diverse extraplanar entities. (The old FR setting used to have several equivalents for other races.) Given the general temperament and physical character of most actual Fiends the majority of the first-generation Half-Fiend ancestors themselves can be assumed to owe their existence to Succubi, Erinyes and similar "infiltrator/tempter" - not to mention shapeshifter - types; the Rakshasa, which primarily dwell on Prime to begin with, are another likely major source.
Plus AFAIK there's no particular shortage of non-Lawful Celestials in the cosmology - who logically would be rather more likely to get inappropriately close with Prime-dwellers than the by nature rather stiff-necked Lawfuls in the first place, anyway.
Also I seem to recall the Tiefling racial questline in-game rather suggesting bonafide extraplanar ancestry. Been an awful long time since I ran it though, admittedly.
There was a theory that they are running behind schedule with class releases , HR should have gone with Fury of feywild , SW should have gone with Shadowmantle , Paladin probably should have gone with Tyranny of Dragons so if that theory is correct (no idea if it is or not) I'd guess we probably will get Druid next but in module 7 or 8 .
Dunno if this is the right place to put it, but since so many others have posted about new classes....
I would like to see psionics make their way into the game in a real sense. As a Class! and not one that you just drop pips into a predefined set of choices, but one where you get to make some choices about what type of psionicist you want to be (like in the books where you choose your powers and can mix/match how you want.)
Dunno if this is the right place to put it, but since so many others have posted about new classes....
I would like to see psionics make their way into the game in a real sense. As a Class! and not one that you just drop pips into a predefined set of choices, but one where you get to make some choices about what type of psionicist you want to be (like in the books where you choose your powers and can mix/match how you want.)
Dude, any new class is going to operate within the same basic structural logic ability-wise. Anything else would be not only silly but also a virtual guarantee for towering piles of trouble in multiple regards.
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Way to miss the point. Because I'm rather certain there's no racial feature that'd do the equivalent of *automatically* triggering, saaaaay, Wrathful Warrior from the GF Conqueror tree. Like your proposed guaranteed 1% temp HP at battle start would.
I didn't miss the point at all, you are dodging it, completely. *golfclaps*
And while you're at it actually argue in defense of such an obviously exploitble trait instead of merely making vague gestures towards ill-defined other Feats.
i hope knome doesnt make it. its just stupid imo.
I hope Cryptic goes through the PHB in order and not just based on player wants. Honestly, planar gcreatures like Genasi and Githyanki don't ever belong in the hands of the players. Shifters are also native to FR, they live in places like Werewoods and such.
If you look at the lasrt race the dragon born, they split the mettalic and the chromatic, one by zen market and the other in lockboxes.
They can do the same thing for genasi.
Example Earth and Fire in Zen market.
Water and Air in a lockboxes.
The only problem about Genasi , that they shouild design at least 4 skins with all alterations, it could be a lot of work ^^.
If you look at what Cryptic has actually have done, they've been filling out what was in PHB1, with the exclusion of Half_Orcs which were in PHB2 of the 4th edition series. PHB2 races include the Deva, Gnomes, Goliaths (aka Half-Giants), and Shifters (or half lycanthropes since werecreatures did not spread their infection in 4e DnD).
Of all I see gnomes most likely being next with probably Goliaths after, I would love for the Shifters to be included to. Of course this also depends on if Cryptic is skipping the Warlord class, which is the only class left in PHB1.
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IIRC they're called Eladrin nowadays or smth. Because gratuitous retcons.
Well, they shouldn't even be included anyways, since PCs should not be extra planar races, and I will stand by that.
Also, in 4e they are called Devas. Eladrin were what high elves became in 4e, but that was done away with in 5e, thank God.
Tieflings were just as "extraplanar" as Aasimars the last time I checked, and they're a core player race in 4th ed IIRC. (Which is all kinds of silly in and by itself but that's beside the point.)
And unless the relevant definitions have changed an awful lot since 3.x "native outsiders" like these mongrels for most practical intents and purposes - aren't.
A teifling is created by a curse more often than by extra planar involvement. A deva can only be created by a planar being basically coming down and being naughty with humans. Not to mention most Devas are the epitome of the Lawful Stupid, something the Neverwinter player base could really be, lawful or even good.
Back in the day Tieflings were the exact same thing as Aasimars and Genasi, ie. second-plus generation offspring of Prime Material humans and diverse extraplanar entities. (The old FR setting used to have several equivalents for other races.) Given the general temperament and physical character of most actual Fiends the majority of the first-generation Half-Fiend ancestors themselves can be assumed to owe their existence to Succubi, Erinyes and similar "infiltrator/tempter" - not to mention shapeshifter - types; the Rakshasa, which primarily dwell on Prime to begin with, are another likely major source.
Plus AFAIK there's no particular shortage of non-Lawful Celestials in the cosmology - who logically would be rather more likely to get inappropriately close with Prime-dwellers than the by nature rather stiff-necked Lawfuls in the first place, anyway.
Also I seem to recall the Tiefling racial questline in-game rather suggesting bonafide extraplanar ancestry. Been an awful long time since I ran it though, admittedly.
Class: Druid (The Tree of Elemental Balance)
Race:Genasi (Elemental Evil)
But nope. We got the paladin...why again?
There was a theory that they are running behind schedule with class releases , HR should have gone with Fury of feywild , SW should have gone with Shadowmantle , Paladin probably should have gone with Tyranny of Dragons so if that theory is correct (no idea if it is or not) I'd guess we probably will get Druid next but in module 7 or 8 .
Because they are behind on the class/mod thing..
I would like to see psionics make their way into the game in a real sense. As a Class! and not one that you just drop pips into a predefined set of choices, but one where you get to make some choices about what type of psionicist you want to be (like in the books where you choose your powers and can mix/match how you want.)
Dude, any new class is going to operate within the same basic structural logic ability-wise. Anything else would be not only silly but also a virtual guarantee for towering piles of trouble in multiple regards.