That's the kind of challenges i enjoy: everything (DEVs nerfing my own class into the ground and lower or beyond. Other classes players still complaining about the worst class on PvP, because they cant kill it "consistently", even with buffs which made them broken op and beyond) in front of me against me, odds included, and try to do a better performance than anyone else!!! This mod 6 will be funny for my CW, my TR, my DC, my HR, my (newly) SW, my GF and my upcoming Paladin !!!! n_n
While I typically agree the problem you face is this.
Anyone who IS good, will know the class is subpar and you will NOT be able to kill them. The only players you CAN kill are players with much less gear or skill than you, typically DONT know the class is good, and thus you DO have a chance to win, but if you do - the guy thought it was a fair fight, and typically trash talks you.
Long story short, the players you can kill are half your gear and are clearly not skilled in PVP so is it really fun to beat someone like that who just turns around and blames your gear as why they lost? Against fair "gear matched" opponents, they win just because their class kills ours 9 times out of 10.
ok,in what part of the game gwf shines?we are nowhere near good shape
Sorry. I didn't want to give the impression that other areas are indeed fine, just that the stuff the devs most likely look at might be vastly different from the player's perspective or expectations.
Let's say your data says 40% of your payers main a TR and only 5% a GWF, would you nerf the TR or put work into the GWF? Not saying this is anywhere near accurate, but those changes you see are heavily influenced by business decisions, not only by balancing.
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All I have to say is HAHAHAHAHA keep playing Neverwinter. Listen the time and effort it will take to come to build your GWF for mod6, use that time to start a new game which understands mechanics better. There is no hope for this game for imbalanced game mechanics and pathetic PVP design. The smart thing to do is get up and quit, it's mod 6, not 1 not 2. How long are you guys going to hope for a proper balance with a company that keeps re-applying their failed policies?
All the developers are a bunch of sissies and if you ever point out anything to them "you are dev bashing buhuhuhuh, they are working so hard", but correction and proper game improvement, it;'s going to happen ... NEVER ... you have a better place of finding neverland before they actually decide to fix broken pvp, class imbalances and their pathetic attitude.
Sorry. I didn't want to give the impression that other areas are indeed fine, just that the stuff the devs most likely look at might be vastly different from the player's perspective or expectations.
Let's say your data says 40% of your payers main a TR and only 5% a GWF, would you nerf the TR or put work into the GWF? Not saying this is anywhere near accurate, but those changes you see are heavily influenced by business decisions, not only by balancing.
I guess you r right,but then they should just make zen item,like a token or something "reroll your gwf to tr/cw",because I really wont invest another year and 1/2 to get another character to where my gwf is now.and anyway I dont whanna play caster class or rogue,I want my class to be like theirs.and not to be laughed at by other classes.
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nezraalMember, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited March 2015
Honestly speaking it's not PWE/Cryptic's fault. They want all of you to play CW. But YOU chose to play GWF. It's your fault, not theirs. You can CW with #1 dps survival in PvE, you can CW with #1 dps and tank in PvP. PvP is suppose to be 5 CW on each side where you play like FPS (first person shooter) with a default in-built head shot where you don't even need to aim for the head! Why are you GWF ? You are just a minion class working for your masters aka CW.
Honestly speaking it's not PWE/Cryptic's fault. They want all of you to play CW. But YOU chose to play GWF. It's your fault, not theirs. You can CW with #1 dps survival in PvE, you can CW with #1 dps and tank in PvP. PvP is suppose to be 5 CW on each side where you play like FPS (first person shooter) with a default in-built head shot where you don't even need to aim for the head! Why are you GWF ? You are just a minion class working for your masters aka CW.
This all makes sense now... I guess I didnt read my class description where it said all of this shoot! That really IS my bad....
Honestly speaking it's not PWE/Cryptic's fault. They want all of you to play CW. But YOU chose to play GWF. It's your fault, not theirs. You can CW with #1 dps survival in PvE, you can CW with #1 dps and tank in PvP. PvP is suppose to be 5 CW on each side where you play like FPS (first person shooter) with a default in-built head shot where you don't even need to aim for the head! Why are you GWF ? You are just a minion class working for your masters aka CW.
are you sure?! because "The Great Weapon Fighter is an unstoppable force of damage and steel, skilled in using the weight of a greatsword to dispatch those that stand in the way. The epitome of strength, the Great Weapon Fighter is also resilient enough to defend allies in need." according to wiki
Or some masterpiece like this guy on official feedback:
Hands down, CWs are the most spoiled class in this game.
They whined over and over till unstoppable was nerfed to nothingness cause they were too lazy to just understand the mechanic and point out the real module 2-3 issues. Now all they need to do is pew-pew spam their stuff and roll their face on the keyboard, no matter if GWF is sprinting, unstoppable or standing still. They win.
Now GWF will lack both DPS and survivability and from their sweet spot (thanks gentlemancrush) they say "GWF is fine, learn to play your class".
I think it's good feedback when someone playing another class tells you how to counter his class if you can't do it.
I find it quite arrogant when someone says "i play CW, i think GWF is fine from what i've seen, may be you don't know how to play your class".
Implying that he is the best at playing HIS class so he can be taken as a reference point to balance other classes and also that he is so good he can tell you if you know how to play your class.
I respected TRs and still respect old TR players. But right now the class is the most broken OP thing neverwinter ever saw since release and spoiled FOTM brats flooded the class. So it's quite easy now to meet many trash-talking TRs and kids.
Plus they were quite spoiled with the whole stealth mechanic, always saying you "just" needed to perfectly time your encounters in a 0.2s window or "learn to predict where an invisible enemy is" as a way to balance classes.
But the real problem are the devs. The fact Panderus dismissed ayroux feedback with a "from our test GWF is in line with other classes" is the proof that they know nothing about their game and how to balance classes.
I'd LOVE to see Panderus grab our mod6 "balanced" GWF class and go PvP vs TRs and CWs. I'd love to see the guy i quoted doing the same.
From the point of view of pretty much every single player who sticked to GWF class through bad (pre-mod1), good (mod1), OP (module 2 and 3) and bad (module4-5) periods, module 6 is going to be very bad for the class.
Now it's 3 full modules that the class is going from bad to worse. BiS 20k+ intimidation builds didn't make the class good in module 4-5 except for the few BiS 20k+ monsters.
Devs never really understood the class, guess they didn't even care about GWFs. That's why their changes always failed greatly at balancing GWFs, going from too weak to too strong, to too weak again.
Feedback on the class was given over and over. They have all the info they need.
The topic of this thread is PvP. The parse I posted was in regards to PvE balancing. It should not be represented as a claim that I believe PvP balancing is just fine. Frankly, I don't know. I stated as much in follow up posts (since deleted by forum mods).
There are many, many complaints in the official GWF feedback thread. Among them:
-PvP balancing
-PvE survivability
-The usefulness of Unstoppable
-PvE DPS
I've spent a great deal of time on the preview server. And I can state with full confidence that the PvE DPS concern is garbage. I can post several more parses of runs with GWF's where they tore enemies up. Several different GWF's I converse with in-game have monster DPS builds on the preview server.
The PvE survivability concern is real. But it is not unique to GWF's. The new Level 73 enemies are tuned so high for damage that EVERY class has serious survivability concerns. The damage enemies deal in some zones is absurd. Assertions that CW's are able to "facetank" this new content where GWF's cannot (I have seen that posted more than a few times) are laughable. Go and try to do the Corrupted Bears HE in Icewind Pass on the preview server. You'll get the <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> kicked out of you no matter what class you are.
The rest of the your post is thinly veiled ad hominem (circumstantial). Just dismissing me as incapable of providing useful or informed feedback since I'm biased against GWF's. If you want to play that game then all GWF's would be eliminated from being capable of providing useful feedback because they are biased in favor of GWF's. But it doesn't work that way. Informed feedback is informed feedback. No matter the source.
It would be intresting to see a dev post there GWF build. Id love to see what they have that is suppose to be the correct one.
I know i have tryed many many differnt builds, some of my own some from others whom i have a good respect for.
They all worked but i guess everyone is doing it wrong but them.
Perhaps they can show us there build that's suppose to work 'fine'.
tnx
we'd get "any build is viable, just go in and do dmg and stuff ^_^" or something.
I dunno man. I feel that GWF is just falling deep into the cracks and no-one who can cause change cares enough about the class to fix it. Half the feedback thread is "BALANCED" suggestions that actually could make the class a lot more viable , without repeating mod 2-3 strength levels. Heck to be honest at average gear levels GWF was fine in mod 3, I'd win some, I'd lose some. then again I probably wasnt using whatever bugged skill made them so strong back then as I was brand new to the class and game basically (played gwf for 2 weeks in beta. then came back in mod 3 ), it was when you got to High end PvP in 3 that they were insanely broken.
i hate to carry on with the CW hijack, but CW's totally have been the most spoiled class in this game since day 1. For every perceived "nerf" they either get two buffs or a buff and it turns out the nerf is actually a buff. To the point that I'm not going to value anyone's opinion when they say otherwise because it's just not factually true.
Just call me Rod. Member of Grievance! CW: Rodrant Turnbul TR: Rodran DC: Rodrat GWF: ROARdrant TurnBRAWL Other GWF: Shieldrant HR: Bowdrant SW: Wardrant Turnlock (my main!) OP: Paladrant (on Preview!)
Once I've got my system reinstalled I can post the ACT logs, and we've had logs in prvious threads before, some are probably still around, some are probably in the abyss.
I tested over 1 minute my 20.2k GWF destroyers dps, vs my 14.6k rogues dps. and the rouge at first doubled him, then after refining the rotation I tripled him. I rarely play rogue, at first I just stood there spamming at wills and encounters as they came up, using stealth as soon as possible. On gwf I built my stacks before Ibs hit, then ended unstop with ibs hits, etc.
My friends Faithful cleric (15k gs) can outdps on a single target dummy, a 20.2k GWF with PvE gear and over 10k power. you can say "hurr only 10k power go buy more radiants ****" But Thats a HUGE power amount for most players, and its ridiculous that a rogue with 3.9k power can deal more damage than that.
Then I tested this on preview, 70 GWF in full level 70 gear , 60 Rogue, the rogue still was above the GWF damage and the rogue doesnt even have an artifact weapon.
I tryed to PvP with akro to show him how bad a level 67 [now. XD] GWF char is on preview... but seems like i went there too late. U_U .
Into the subjet: you are right on everything but "giving piercing damage to GWF-class". Even if they give "us" piercing damage for everything, the class will be still useless due lack of survivality and damage.
Lack of survivability? Have you ever tryed to play as SW? no damage???? Good GWF's are outdamaging SW's on mod 5.
GWF's are good on pvp, if you know how to use then, i've seen only one GWF well playing he's class, and he killed me xD, all others i crushed them!
So the awnswer is learn to play your class, of cource u can aways go with easy mode, and roll a TR or HR or even a DC!
Lack of survivability? Have you ever tryed to play as SW? no damage???? Good GWF's are outdamaging SW's on mod 5.
GWF's are good on pvp, if you know how to use then, i've seen only one GWF well playing he's class, and he killed me xD, all others i crushed them!
So the awnswer is learn to play your class, of cource u can aways go with easy mode, and roll a TR or HR or even a DC!
Play a GWF, and try it yourself. or your feedback is irrelevant, this is about GWF PVP on preview. where our only remaining viable build (Intim burst) is gone. i'm assuming the one who killed you was a BiS intim build. and the others have been more normal gearscores like 15-19k
Which seems like entirely legitimate feedback, because it comes from actual testing, even if it contradicts the cherished beliefs of some about their own class-based martyrdom. For all the whining done by GWF players, I haven't seen anyone post any actual examples like that. No ACT logs, no recordings of fights. Nada. One even said he's posted tons of feedback without even testing first, and now he's just testing to reaffirm what he already believes.
Lack of survivability? Have you ever tryed to play as SW? no damage???? Good GWF's are outdamaging SW's on mod 5.
GWF's are good on pvp, if you know how to use then, i've seen only one GWF well playing he's class, and he killed me xD, all others i crushed them!
So the awnswer is learn to play your class, of cource u can aways go with easy mode, and roll a TR or HR or even a DC!
lol you're on the wrong thread dear sir. YOU play an average gwf in pvp and come back with your results. do NOT talk before you do. a gwf below 20k should not pvp if only for the endless deaths and no damage. this **** happens when your class is so gear dependant it can't function without being fully orange.
EDIT: Also, that parse just tell me 1 thing: TR and CW players were really bad geared or were bad played to be outDPS'ed by a GWF. [No offense, Abbadon]
Feel free to look me up on the preview server. We can run some content together. Judge for yourself if I'm under-geared, clueless, or both.
Lack of survivability? Have you ever tryed to play as SW? no damage???? Good GWF's are outdamaging SW's on mod 5.
GWF's are good on pvp, if you know how to use then, i've seen only one GWF well playing he's class, and he killed me xD, all others i crushed them!
So the awnswer is learn to play your class, of cource u can aways go with easy mode, and roll a TR or HR or even a DC!
one of the best examples of useless feedback. "I've seen one GWF and he killed me!"
you know people can say the same thing about SW too, "hey I've met a SW the other day and he was constantly melting me, but the other SWs I face are just free kill bro, maybe those guys should just learn to play SW because SWs are good in pvp, if you know how to play it"
See how that statement is just full HorseShiit? thats exactly what your post looks like.
also to the posts above me,can you just stop the parsing nonsense, this thread is about PVP. PvE is a no-brainer, yes even with the new curves, no offense. Stop hijacking this thread.
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Lack of survivability? Have you ever tryed to play as SW? no damage???? Good GWF's are outdamaging SW's on mod 5.
GWF's are good on pvp, if you know how to use then, i've seen only one GWF well playing he's class, and he killed me xD, all others i crushed them!
So the awnswer is learn to play your class, of cource u can aways go with easy mode, and roll a TR or HR or even a DC!
lol you're on the wrong thread dear sir. YOU play an average gwf in pvp and come back with your results. do NOT talk before you do. a gwf below 20k should not pvp if only for the endless deaths and no damage. this **** happens when your class is so gear dependant it can't function without being fully orange.
I have to disagree with this post, my Warlock is 16,6k he kills allmost every GWF 1 on 1 up to 22k slippering arround them, they can´t hit cause of slow animation or whatever, only some maxed builds mostly 24-25k GWF with huge HP and huge survivability are to big to get, thats a fact and I am an average player since 10/14
and i am sure it is not a overall lack of scill, its the class that sacks enormously being obviously nerfed into ground or by buffing other classes like hell (not speaking about warlock in that case)
(i don´t know anything about this class, only have a lev 30 toon i thought about deleting)
While I typically agree the problem you face is this.
Anyone who IS good, will know the class is subpar and you will NOT be able to kill them. The only players you CAN kill are players with much less gear or skill than you, typically DONT know the class is good, and thus you DO have a chance to win, but if you do - the guy thought it was a fair fight, and typically trash talks you.
Long story short, the players you can kill are half your gear and are clearly not skilled in PVP so is it really fun to beat someone like that who just turns around and blames your gear as why they lost? Against fair "gear matched" opponents, they win just because their class kills ours 9 times out of 10.
On Live I absolutely destroyed Alizea Angelo's HR in a Dom. My Sentinel is 24, the HR was either 22 or 23. So yeah, on Live we can be a serious threat IF we have bis and know how to use it. In Mod 6 I just dont know, the Preview server is compromised making testing irrelevant
Row, row, row your boat, Gently down the stream.
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
one of the best examples of useless feedback. "I've seen one GWF and he killed me!"
you know people can say the same thing about SW too, "hey I've met a SW the other day and he was constantly melting me, but the other SWs I face are just free kill bro, maybe those guys should just learn to play SW because SWs are good in pvp, if you know how to play it"
See how that statement is just full HorseShiit? thats exactly what your post looks like.
also to the posts above me,can you just stop the parsing nonsense, this thread is about PVP. PvE is a no-brainer, yes even with the new curves, no offense. Stop hijacking this thread.
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There is more than enough feedback for this class, i do not understand why the DEVS don't listen to us!
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Devs as you see, the GWF class is Not working how it should, pls take it serious.
there is a bunch of gwf players out there, who want to enjoy their class again.
GWF right now on live server, is absolutely broken, defense stats doesn't work,
unstoppable is broken, our dmg is on a real low level.
I do not want to be OP, just a realistic balance which fits the class much Better,
for what we was supposed to be: a Melee Single Target Class.
the way which gwf is currently going is not the right way on M6.
<::::::[]==0 GwF 0==[]::::::> ● Still waiting for the promised Improvement ●
One player said, that GWFs would be useful in mid with destroyer spec, to defend the faithful DC in a premade. Yay to becoming the DCs bodyguards and beeing obsolete otherwise.
I play multiple chars, but I would hate to have a GWF with 4 legendary artefacts and full legendary gear, 50k glory and enough badges and grym coins to get the new PvP set on day one, who is useless in PvP.
If this goes live, I will play him in PvE or strip the enchants, but I wont do PvP to get bashed by 15k PvE TRs.
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m3 seens a accident that will not be repeated....
IIf you see my suggestions history, I talk about temporary hp steal, damage and dynamism focusing on destroyers/sm.
* feel times i speak about "tools to tank." gwf never will be able to tank/cc like before (pvp).
While I typically agree the problem you face is this.
Anyone who IS good, will know the class is subpar and you will NOT be able to kill them. The only players you CAN kill are players with much less gear or skill than you, typically DONT know the class is good, and thus you DO have a chance to win, but if you do - the guy thought it was a fair fight, and typically trash talks you.
Long story short, the players you can kill are half your gear and are clearly not skilled in PVP so is it really fun to beat someone like that who just turns around and blames your gear as why they lost? Against fair "gear matched" opponents, they win just because their class kills ours 9 times out of 10.
Sorry. I didn't want to give the impression that other areas are indeed fine, just that the stuff the devs most likely look at might be vastly different from the player's perspective or expectations.
Let's say your data says 40% of your payers main a TR and only 5% a GWF, would you nerf the TR or put work into the GWF? Not saying this is anywhere near accurate, but those changes you see are heavily influenced by business decisions, not only by balancing.
All the developers are a bunch of sissies and if you ever point out anything to them "you are dev bashing buhuhuhuh, they are working so hard", but correction and proper game improvement, it;'s going to happen ... NEVER ... you have a better place of finding neverland before they actually decide to fix broken pvp, class imbalances and their pathetic attitude.
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This all makes sense now... I guess I didnt read my class description where it said all of this shoot! That really IS my bad....
are you sure?! because "The Great Weapon Fighter is an unstoppable force of damage and steel, skilled in using the weight of a greatsword to dispatch those that stand in the way. The epitome of strength, the Great Weapon Fighter is also resilient enough to defend allies in need." according to wiki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02my_zhX4Bs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk_rjyPdpN0
NOW make sense what panderus said... ops. forget; gwf dont have dodge...
At least this Havel user has fatrolls;)
The topic of this thread is PvP. The parse I posted was in regards to PvE balancing. It should not be represented as a claim that I believe PvP balancing is just fine. Frankly, I don't know. I stated as much in follow up posts (since deleted by forum mods).
There are many, many complaints in the official GWF feedback thread. Among them:
-PvP balancing
-PvE survivability
-The usefulness of Unstoppable
-PvE DPS
I've spent a great deal of time on the preview server. And I can state with full confidence that the PvE DPS concern is garbage. I can post several more parses of runs with GWF's where they tore enemies up. Several different GWF's I converse with in-game have monster DPS builds on the preview server.
The PvE survivability concern is real. But it is not unique to GWF's. The new Level 73 enemies are tuned so high for damage that EVERY class has serious survivability concerns. The damage enemies deal in some zones is absurd. Assertions that CW's are able to "facetank" this new content where GWF's cannot (I have seen that posted more than a few times) are laughable. Go and try to do the Corrupted Bears HE in Icewind Pass on the preview server. You'll get the <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> kicked out of you no matter what class you are.
The rest of the your post is thinly veiled ad hominem (circumstantial). Just dismissing me as incapable of providing useful or informed feedback since I'm biased against GWF's. If you want to play that game then all GWF's would be eliminated from being capable of providing useful feedback because they are biased in favor of GWF's. But it doesn't work that way. Informed feedback is informed feedback. No matter the source.
we'd get "any build is viable, just go in and do dmg and stuff ^_^" or something.
I dunno man. I feel that GWF is just falling deep into the cracks and no-one who can cause change cares enough about the class to fix it. Half the feedback thread is "BALANCED" suggestions that actually could make the class a lot more viable , without repeating mod 2-3 strength levels. Heck to be honest at average gear levels GWF was fine in mod 3, I'd win some, I'd lose some. then again I probably wasnt using whatever bugged skill made them so strong back then as I was brand new to the class and game basically (played gwf for 2 weeks in beta. then came back in mod 3 ), it was when you got to High end PvP in 3 that they were insanely broken.
Drunken Goose of MidNight Express. - 3.3k Paladin , 3.6k GWF , 3.1k GF,
CW: Rodrant Turnbul
TR: Rodran
DC: Rodrat
GWF: ROARdrant TurnBRAWL
Other GWF: Shieldrant
HR: Bowdrant
SW: Wardrant Turnlock (my main!)
OP: Paladrant (on Preview!)
Once I've got my system reinstalled I can post the ACT logs, and we've had logs in prvious threads before, some are probably still around, some are probably in the abyss.
I tested over 1 minute my 20.2k GWF destroyers dps, vs my 14.6k rogues dps. and the rouge at first doubled him, then after refining the rotation I tripled him. I rarely play rogue, at first I just stood there spamming at wills and encounters as they came up, using stealth as soon as possible. On gwf I built my stacks before Ibs hit, then ended unstop with ibs hits, etc.
My friends Faithful cleric (15k gs) can outdps on a single target dummy, a 20.2k GWF with PvE gear and over 10k power. you can say "hurr only 10k power go buy more radiants ****" But Thats a HUGE power amount for most players, and its ridiculous that a rogue with 3.9k power can deal more damage than that.
Then I tested this on preview, 70 GWF in full level 70 gear , 60 Rogue, the rogue still was above the GWF damage and the rogue doesnt even have an artifact weapon.
Drunken Goose of MidNight Express. - 3.3k Paladin , 3.6k GWF , 3.1k GF,
Lack of survivability? Have you ever tryed to play as SW? no damage???? Good GWF's are outdamaging SW's on mod 5.
GWF's are good on pvp, if you know how to use then, i've seen only one GWF well playing he's class, and he killed me xD, all others i crushed them!
So the awnswer is learn to play your class, of cource u can aways go with easy mode, and roll a TR or HR or even a DC!
Play a GWF, and try it yourself. or your feedback is irrelevant, this is about GWF PVP on preview. where our only remaining viable build (Intim burst) is gone. i'm assuming the one who killed you was a BiS intim build. and the others have been more normal gearscores like 15-19k
Drunken Goose of MidNight Express. - 3.3k Paladin , 3.6k GWF , 3.1k GF,
look in lowerdepths, sir... in lowerdepths...:(
lol you're on the wrong thread dear sir. YOU play an average gwf in pvp and come back with your results. do NOT talk before you do. a gwf below 20k should not pvp if only for the endless deaths and no damage. this **** happens when your class is so gear dependant it can't function without being fully orange.
The Holy Crusaders guild leader ♚ Mod 10 PVE Destroyer GWF guide ♚ Founding member of the Relentless Alliance
Feel free to look me up on the preview server. We can run some content together. Judge for yourself if I'm under-geared, clueless, or both.
one of the best examples of useless feedback. "I've seen one GWF and he killed me!"
you know people can say the same thing about SW too, "hey I've met a SW the other day and he was constantly melting me, but the other SWs I face are just free kill bro, maybe those guys should just learn to play SW because SWs are good in pvp, if you know how to play it"
See how that statement is just full HorseShiit? thats exactly what your post looks like.
also to the posts above me,can you just stop the parsing nonsense, this thread is about PVP. PvE is a no-brainer, yes even with the new curves, no offense. Stop hijacking this thread.
I have to disagree with this post, my Warlock is 16,6k he kills allmost every GWF 1 on 1 up to 22k slippering arround them, they can´t hit cause of slow animation or whatever, only some maxed builds mostly 24-25k GWF with huge HP and huge survivability are to big to get, thats a fact and I am an average player since 10/14
and i am sure it is not a overall lack of scill, its the class that sacks enormously being obviously nerfed into ground or by buffing other classes like hell (not speaking about warlock in that case)
(i don´t know anything about this class, only have a lev 30 toon i thought about deleting)
On Live I absolutely destroyed Alizea Angelo's HR in a Dom. My Sentinel is 24, the HR was either 22 or 23. So yeah, on Live we can be a serious threat IF we have bis and know how to use it. In Mod 6 I just dont know, the Preview server is compromised making testing irrelevant
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
hahah so much true
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Devs as you see, the GWF class is Not working how it should, pls take it serious.
there is a bunch of gwf players out there, who want to enjoy their class again.
GWF right now on live server, is absolutely broken, defense stats doesn't work,
unstoppable is broken, our dmg is on a real low level.
I do not want to be OP,
just a realistic balance which fits the class much Better,
for what we was supposed to be: a Melee Single Target Class.
the way which gwf is currently going is not the right way on M6.
I play multiple chars, but I would hate to have a GWF with 4 legendary artefacts and full legendary gear, 50k glory and enough badges and grym coins to get the new PvP set on day one, who is useless in PvP.
If this goes live, I will play him in PvE or strip the enchants, but I wont do PvP to get bashed by 15k PvE TRs.