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Dev Blog: Oathbound Paladin Design
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Greetings Adventurers!
Today we are excited to unveil some more details about our next class, the Oathbound Paladin. Oathbound Paladins can become either tanks or healers using their Paragon Paths, which allow them to take either an Oath of Protection or an Oath of Devotion. These paths confer unique passives in addition to their own powers, as well as modifying all encounter powers the Paladin has.
Find out more:
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/9064463-dev-blog%3A-oathbound-paladin-design
Today we are excited to unveil some more details about our next class, the Oathbound Paladin. Oathbound Paladins can become either tanks or healers using their Paragon Paths, which allow them to take either an Oath of Protection or an Oath of Devotion. These paths confer unique passives in addition to their own powers, as well as modifying all encounter powers the Paladin has.
Find out more:
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/9064463-dev-blog%3A-oathbound-paladin-design
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I'm less excited for the way the Paladin looks - it's pretty much a GF. Please put effort into developing this game.
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I disagree with making the Paladin effectively a replacement class.
Here is how MOD 6 is starting to look:
Level cap is now 70 so basically you are starting over as of level 61 you are now essentially a first level toon need to work up new gear to be as competitive or strong as you were. I don't take so much an issue with this as it will make the game challenging to play in current level 60 gear until we get to farm out the higher end gear (whatever that maybe).
With the introduction of the Paladin, it seems that it is possible that we will see it kill two classes, the GF and the DC as a Paladin can do both depending on spec. So basically why bother with having other classes when we basically have 1 go to class, the only difference is one Paladin is a fighter the other is a cleric but when it comes down to it they are BOTH Paladins. Class diversity is working its way out the window which is probably good for PVP since if the only class to play is a paladin healer or paladin tank then PVP will be more balanced since there is only 1 class played in different roles.
I have not seen any game play using the Paladin so this is all just my opinion of speculation on how players will treat this and judging by what I Have seen so far in this game it is very likely this is what will happen unless some dedicated players continue to play. I for one am not so sure about continuing to play a GF I have leveled to 60, his value continuing to level 70 maybe worthless as new Paladins obtain level 60-70 depending on how many people take the quickest leveling approaches possible.
Another issue I have is the picture of the Paladin that I have seen is suing a shield and has a mace. The quintessential Paladin has always used a Long Sword and a Shield. Paladins always have strove to obtain the most powerful weapon that can be granted to them and that is the almighty Holy Avenger Long sword that would further enhance their abilities. Has this archetype been replaced with a mace wielding Paladin just for the sake of making some vague attempt at differentiating it from the current GF?
I will take the opinion that we really need to see some more unique classes come into play, Monks are a good start for this, Psionicists would be pretty interesting and Bards would all be interesting flavor adding classes that won't necessarily terminate older classes. SW did not remove the use of CW as it didn't really have any control ability but dealt or could deal high amounts of damage but wasn't something that would retire an existing class.
My fear is this new class will actually retire one maybe even two older classes.
So Paladin uses an improved form of "Divinity" which regens.
Appear to be similar to how Exaltation used to work. Considering how useless Exaltation currently is at the moment.
Holy Cow! Does this work in PvP? Or only AI? 75% damage reduction is very "potent" to say the least. Add on to that 50% of damage as AoE damage is erhem... OP. Is this a Daily?
The new mod will surely remove the usability of the High Prophet set, so then, what really can my DC offer a party that the new paladin class can't? Over healing?
It seems like there is no logical way to balance here. Either a heal spec Paladin can primary heal, or (s)he can't. If (s)he can, DCs have no use.
It would seem to me that Paladins should not be allowed to primary heal, only backup heal and buff/control/whatever, or the DC class needs to be completely re-factored. Again.
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The also stated that each path can fufill the roll as a dedicated healer and tank how this class dose this atm is still up in the air.
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AHH i see now
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Otherwise, it looks like a very fun class to play. I'll be rolling one!
nvm, found.
http://www.twitch.tv/perfectworld_community/c/6003266
Preview server is down for the weekend. But when it comes back up the Paladin will be there to play.
Its still down ? i cant login.
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?837211-Preview-offline-for-the-weekend
There's an official thread about the weekend downage/upage on the Preview Server forums there.
1. There is no block meter - I realize it's not their main schtick, but it would greatly help in gauging how much time you have left than the rather small generic stamina meter.
2. It seems OPs can use *some* GFs gear, but not other pieces - for instance, I copied over some GF weapons, and my OP could use them, but he couldn't use the GF weapons from the regular weapon vendor in the market area. He could use the armor, though. EDIT: I should note that what I copied over to the test server was a set of GF transmutes, which may explain why my OP was able to use them.
3. The decision to have powers function differently based upon what paragon path you choose is an interesting one, but it feels like this can potentially punish a wrong decision, since there's a lot at stake now, aside from the typical 1 at-will, 1 daily, 1 encounter, and 2 class abilities that normally come with a paragon path pick.
4. The lack of an OPs ability to attack while blocking definitely gives GFs an edge. The fact that said block also benefits all allies in a small radius, however, (especially if it also conveys status protection), more than compensates for that.
5. The class ability, while interesting, similarly suffers from paragon-specific functions, which one is locked out from if they choose a different path.
In general, this class will be very interesting to play, but I am concerned that the degree of paragon-path-reliance that so many powers have will hamper my enjoyment of it somewhat.
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Confirmation of this might help to put the GFs and DCs at ease. After all, its hard to feel threatened if you can actually fight back. Rather then stand still, holy feather duster in hand, shouting at the mobs that "You nasty nasty things are banished, banished, banished! Or so help me, ill tickle you with this duster!"
Well, when I copied over to test, I had a bunch of the XP tomes from post-60 advancement and an XP booster - those got me up to level 28. Unfortunately, the vendor in the market doesn't appear to be hooked up w/ the full range of OP equipment yet, so I was using under-leveled gear for my testing. Still, the powers were attractive, visually.
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Nosing around in Platesmithing, you can see that some items are currently class-specific and some can be worn by both.
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I do have some chars with level 20 platesmithing - if I get the time, I'll copy one over and try and make some more appropriate gear. Thanks for the heads up.
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And this game is supposed to use D&D 4e lore and rules....unfortunately it does not look as if they have done so in this case, as seems to be occurring more and more frequently.
"Two builds are presented in the Player's Handbook: the Avenging Paladin, based on Strength and offense, and the Protecting Paladin, based on Charisma and defense. Strength-based attack prayers are generally weapon-based and limited to melee range, while Charisma-based attack prayers include both melee weapon attacks and ranged implement-based attacks. Paladins also have the divine challenge class feature, which causes a targeted opponent to take damage when it makes an attack which doesn't include the paladin, as well as "marking" that opponent, which penalizes any attack roll the opponent makes against a target other than the marking character. In place of a bonded mount, they can have powers at later levels that allow them to teleport across the battle field to aid endangered allies. The paladin was initially the only class in 4th edition to have plate armor proficiency at first level. Since then, the Knight (a variant of the fighter, first presented in Heroes of the Fallen Lands) and two more paladin variants, the Cavalier (Heroes of the Forgotten Kingdoms) and the Blackguard (Heroes of Shadow), also have this ability. Paladins may also take special feats related to their deity with their Channel Divinity class feature."
IMO they have taken the wrong direction with the paladin, but whatever happens, I seriously hope that the paladin does not end up replacing the GF and/or DC.
I agree with this, DC should get a daily that allows them to rez people that are totally dead. I don't play a DC. I have been waiting for the Paladin class because I love to play Paladin's. Also I think Paladins should get a class feature called Mounted Combat "that can allow them to fight while mounted or don't get dismounted from damage from mobs."
I had hoped for a tank/damage build paladin for this game, In the mould of a GWF, So I have to agree with randomdiscord, I feel they've got the direction for the class utterly wrong, If they wanted to add another healing class, They should have added either the druid or favoured soul, NOT a paladin.
I also wish they'd drop the fixed weapon/armor mould they've gone with since launch, Being pigeonholed into a build is not fun.