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Super tough 5.7k HR
xnewyorkhardcore
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I have a 14k HR (Stormwarden, Archer build). About 4k Power, 3k Crit, 3k AP, 1.6k Defense, 1.2k Deflect and 22k HP.
I went head to head w/ another HR and hit for hit I could barely damage him, however he could kill me with 3-4 strikes easily. Sometimes 2 hits came really close, but I had a sliver of HP left.
I could land a good three or four Aimed Shots on him before he realized he was being sniped, at which point I'd hit him with a Hindering Shot, a Constricting Arrow a Disruptive Shot (which stunned him), another Hindering Shot, then a Marauder's Rush, a Hindering Strike and a Steel Breeze. I'd back out with Marauders Escape, land another Hindering Shot and peck away with Rapid Shots while my Encounters cooled, but after all this he still had nearly all his HP. Twice I had just a little under half my HP and he killed me with a single Marauders Rush. He wan't particularly good. If anything he was particularly not good. I was landing a half dozen good strikes for every one of his.
Finally I inspected his character.
He had a 5.7k GS, his Power, Crit and AP were all under 400, his Defense and Deflect were both under 800, and his HP were around 17k. Most of his items were Uncommon. A few were Rare. He had a couple Rank 3 enchantments, and didn't even have slots for Weapon or Armor enchantments.
How is this possible? A few players in the Zone suggested it was in due to his boons, but I've completed 1/2 or more of all the campaigns. I refuse to believe the other half makes that much of a difference.
Many players I asked are firmly convinced it's nothing more than a classic case of good build vs. bad build, but even that sounds awfully suspect to me. I've never had trouble pulling my own weight against evenly matched teams.
Apparently I'm missing something enormous though.
I went head to head w/ another HR and hit for hit I could barely damage him, however he could kill me with 3-4 strikes easily. Sometimes 2 hits came really close, but I had a sliver of HP left.
I could land a good three or four Aimed Shots on him before he realized he was being sniped, at which point I'd hit him with a Hindering Shot, a Constricting Arrow a Disruptive Shot (which stunned him), another Hindering Shot, then a Marauder's Rush, a Hindering Strike and a Steel Breeze. I'd back out with Marauders Escape, land another Hindering Shot and peck away with Rapid Shots while my Encounters cooled, but after all this he still had nearly all his HP. Twice I had just a little under half my HP and he killed me with a single Marauders Rush. He wan't particularly good. If anything he was particularly not good. I was landing a half dozen good strikes for every one of his.
Finally I inspected his character.
He had a 5.7k GS, his Power, Crit and AP were all under 400, his Defense and Deflect were both under 800, and his HP were around 17k. Most of his items were Uncommon. A few were Rare. He had a couple Rank 3 enchantments, and didn't even have slots for Weapon or Armor enchantments.
How is this possible? A few players in the Zone suggested it was in due to his boons, but I've completed 1/2 or more of all the campaigns. I refuse to believe the other half makes that much of a difference.
Many players I asked are firmly convinced it's nothing more than a classic case of good build vs. bad build, but even that sounds awfully suspect to me. I've never had trouble pulling my own weight against evenly matched teams.
Apparently I'm missing something enormous though.
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Melee feated Hr will destroy you in the way you described but not with that gs thats simple impossible....
And I´m pretty sure he hadn´t changed any large piece of equipment (his toon looked the same).
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Okay even you know that that's impossible. Unless you read only "tough HR" or you're mad at your last domination match..... You should know that it's impossible to kill a geared player with 5.7k GS that fast
Combat spec hr is very powerful. Much better than ranged for pvp.
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I'm all sorts of confused about this. (I've only experienced it with HRs.)
Maybe they got high deflect...found that out when i saw a few dodge coming out from my shots..
If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
As we are not allowed to mention names i wont but there are some that abuses illigal methods to greatly improve their ability to deal and take dam (((
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Yeah, a few days ago I fought a CW who's Soul Forged would pop about three times in a 20 sec span before he'd die.
I also just fought an HR with 1300 less power, 3000 less Crit, 800 less AP, 2% less Deflection chance, 500 less armor, no Life Steal or Regen, same HP, yet he could one hit kill me and it took me about ten hits to kill him. ONE HIT! >.<
I killed him twice, but he was wrecking our whole team. One Hindering Strike killed me and a teammate fresh of the re-spawn pad (25,000 HP for me), and the third teammate (GWF) had a sliver left. It's insane.
cw have a t1 feat that allows its stamina to continue refill from dots.
hr have a t2 feat in trapper that refills stamina upon using slashers mark.
about hindering shot: a full power archery HR can crit for 10k with hindering. Has 3 charges.
I can confirm those aren't exploits.
CW has Severe Reaction: "When struck you have a 15% chance to repel your attacker 1/2/3/4/5 feet and restore 2/4/6/8/10% of your Stamina. (This only work within 20 feet)". Wanna see less of it? Use a vorpal and not GPF, and chain CC the CW to death, don't let him escape.
HR has quite a few mechanics besides the dodge spam from Slasher's Mark, like Swift Footwork and Ghostwalker (that probably nobody has anymore since you're mostly in melee stance).
Boons can contribute to stamina as well.
You guys need to research mechanics before coming to forums and start throwing accusations of exploiting.
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not enough well lets add one more for ya ...
Just saying that peeps are seeing some wierd sh****t going on
Yes I saw those.
People should FRAPS and post on Youtube as proof.
I am not saying bugs/exploits do not exist, I am just saying I find it hard to believe these claims, without proof, from people that don't know basic mechanics.
True dat 99% of all accusations of cheating is pure lack of understanding of game mechanism hell prolly 99.99 % is so your right about that.
But i seen stuff lately i must say some cross that line with low gs doing crazy stuff, peeps that goes from 10% to full health 5-6 times in a row in less then 30 sec when under heavy fire among other things that should just not be possible.
I was well the best way to put it annihilated by a Hr with gs 11 on my Hr gs 19 and am melee based 43k hp he had 23 k hp and he blew me out of the water and my damage hardly tickled him ......
the video isn't mine just randomly found it on youtube after a quick search, to be honest this is not realy a serious because it is not something you encounetr every couple pvp gmes , out of the over 250+ that i played only met stuff like that 3 or 4 times
That's definitely an exploit or bug. There was some similar type of exploit/bug with TRs a long while ago.
You should definitely PM the video to @panderus, he will know how to proceed further.
XD I'm so glad you said that. Confirms it's really that bad.
Just started a GWF and noticed the same thing. (Realized I only check other players of the same class.) GWF with about 250 crit, 300 AP, 1000 Pow, 200 Deflect, 300 Defense was wrecking me. I was lvl 39 so, he couldn't have been any higher. I had almost 3000 Pow, 600 AP, 200 Crit, 1400 Defense and about 600 Deflect. I checked his crit chance and it was 18+%, mine is only 14 so he had some feats helping him there. Not enough to explain how he could stand in front of me and deal 2x the DMG though. Lesser Vorp , I had lesser Terror. He had no other enchants and I have all 7s and 8s. He had just under 1000 more HP, but that doesn't account for much.
Sucks. It's driving me nuts.
It's been probably six months since I've run into this. An HR and I are battling on a hub, 1v1.
I'm fresh of the respawn slab, and he's missing maybe 5-10% HP.
Hit for hit, I take him down to about 60-70% HP. That's me landing all three Hindering Shot's, plus at least two more after CD, Constricting Arrow at least once, and at least two disruptive shots--plus Marauder's Rush and Hindering Strike. (Steel breeze probably missed.)
He landed a Disruptive Shot and two other shots (Hindering, Constricting and/or Binding, not sure). This brought me down to about 20% HP. Then, for some reason he came toward me while pecking away with Rapid shot, after about four of which I died.
His HP: 23,000 (and some change)
MY HP: 27,600 (and some change)
His Power: 4100
My Power: 7200
His Crit: 21%
My Crit: 44% (+Stillness)
His AP: 3100
My AP: 3600
His Def: 1400
My Def: 2600
His Deflect: 33%
My Deflect: 52% (+Lone Wolf)
His LS: 6.4%
My LS: 11.6%
His Ten: 0
My Ten: 800
HIS GS: 14,700
My GS: 20.923
Fought him three times--same basic result. He never left the hub and never needed to heal. I ABSOLUTELY nailed him more times in each fight.
There has GOT TO BE an exploit there.
He was very confident also. He f'n knew he was gonna win. Held his ground and creeped toward me, never once ran or shifted. The fact a 14.7k player was that confident this late on a week night is flag 1.
Months ago it was 8-10k HRs with either mostly greens, or some even with only weapons and one or two pieces of green or blue gear. At the time I was 17k and often times the disparity was much greater than what I mentioned above. Whatever that was, apparently it was taken care of.
Anyone have some insight into this for me? It's f'n frustrating.
there is a lot of info missing: were u debuffed? was he buffed? was there a cleric? or, was he under the buff of oak?
probably he was playing fox+binding+hindering, a gread defensive combo of skills. also, there could be buffs/debuffes that u have not mentioned. if it is the only case, and there are no more such HRs than probably you missed something.
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I typically do very well with my archery build. I've beat Combat HRs of comparable GSs to my own plenty of times.
Either way, he was using only ranged. He didn't once switch stances. Idk. Tried PMing him, but didn't reply. We'll see if it happens again.
PS. Thx for merging threads.