I shoot you with a LVL 3 insult regarding a large family member! I roll a crit and proc your SF, then your pay to win Artifact Set heals you to full and you deposit a counter insult my way which I dodge with mad skillz..and we continue
Row, row, row your boat, Gently down the stream.
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
Better, i call a DC and this will be done in... um.... 5 hours.
Cant take that long bro, I have to pause my brutal, virtual killing spree to catch the Will and Grace rerun..
Row, row, row your boat, Gently down the stream.
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
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aaablacklady9Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 81Arc User
edited November 2014
Btw isn't the direct heal to do 50k when someone is almost deth -.- Is the new final boon of Dc -.- Before asking for nerf, at last know the other class -.- Dc don't need nerf on healing -.- stop asking for stupid think's because you have to do pvp -.- This is really boring
I play DC as alt and yeah, i noticed the buff went overboard. And not just the healing.
DPS clerics can hit as hard or harder than SWs...which is crazy considering even when going DPS, BiS ones are quite tanky.
Must consider how DCs are always targeted by multiple enemies and primary targets, so they must be able to endure it, but should not be able to make their party immortal. Less healing on allies, keep the healing like this for tank DCs, decrease DPS for DPS DCs to balance.
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aaablacklady9Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 81Arc User
edited November 2014
-.- still asking for nerf -.-? are you serious? did you do some pve ? if they remove now that healing boost, we can get dumped like TR in pve like just now. Stop ask for nberf based on pvp crappy. You wonna kill a DC? Get arp and erase them, 2 TR can easy take 1 Dc down just from behind, so stop ask for nerf because you don't know how to use a class. Each time the dev give something, people asking for nerf for that crappy PvP.
aaablacklady9Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 81Arc User
edited November 2014
Healing build are supposed to heal -.- Like tank build are supposed to be able to take toons of damage -.- Stop asking for nerf because you met some geared Dc. I don't blame when a GWF do more damage than me in pve whit my little Dc, i don't blame when after 200 HE i sitl got only **** drop -.- We are Helaer, we are supposed to heal. Remove us this feats, and we will be like TR. No one will take about us, so little CW, SW and GWF can play happy again.
Sorry, being a free kill times are over, L2P against DCs and adapt to changes, you want easy kills, go for pve.
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aaablacklady9Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 81Arc User
edited November 2014
The insane thing is that people asking for a nerf because they aren't able to kill them, they just wont a nuke button or a "Fatality" button to oneshot the whole people in the map
Since all the pve content could be done with a 11-12k GS the real thing where you have to watch for balance is pvp.
There you will find the 23/25k gs monster and the real zen buyer (cause of competition), who are the real target for Cryptic.
After that, I would let you know that DC are always my first choice in rpg cause I love their role and support the team, as I found illogical the great defense of CW when they are dps spec or extreme damage from GS when they can block, mitigate and reduce almost everything.
so stop caressing your toon and try to have a larger point of view.
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aaablacklady9Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 81Arc User
edited November 2014
I love Dc too, but asking all the time nerf based on PvP premade vs PuG it's insane. Try do some Cn or VT whit MINIMAL GS REQUIRED and you will see how hard is do it, even whit the new Dc boost healing. And btw, Tiamat can easy oneshot all the class whit breath atk, so on 5 december we will see people asking for nerf on tiamat
8k GS DC came in and brought everyone back to full health from below 10%.
So either the feat is Overpowered or they have found an exploit. Anyway this calls for a balance for PvP.
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aaablacklady9Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 81Arc User
edited November 2014
Ther eno glitch -.- Why no one care and read that feats? It say:
You lose 30% of your healing and you save that AMMOUNT on that target. When that target go down of 40%, istant regain that HP saved on them.
Before call glitch or nerf, take some times and read the feats of the other class too. If you let the Dc store the healing, you are deserve to loose in pvp. Learn how to face new mechanics
how i can explain this.... yes: insane defense, insane buffs.... and worse of them all: insane DIRECT healings. I saw a 13k DC healing for 50ks to an almost dead GF... THAT is NUTS!
Pls, fix them, that way, we can play again PvP.
EDIT: AH. i almost forgot about that insane dodge they have right now!!!!
Personally I think the DC is in a good spot right now. Its bs for people to say they cant be killed. I kill them all the time. And no I dont play dc nor have I ever. Leave the DC alone! It has epic heals.....its a healer imagine that...... If its the damage build it will hit decently just like any other class. I'm not getting what makes them so bad to people. I think they are a nice challenge at a point and its always a good fight ...well against good ones. Others just fall over as soon as they step on point XD.
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aaablacklady9Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 81Arc User
edited November 2014
Just CC them to deth -.- A dc stunned, can store healing on himself or party. That store healing working only whit 3 spell. So, don't say we are Op
Well, I don't know, a 12k DC hit me with Hammer of Fate and I almost got burned from 50% HP to zero from some kind of DoT. They have more damage then SWs now lol.
M6 almost drains your soul given how boring it is. (c) joocycuzzzzzz
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aaablacklady9Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 81Arc User
edited November 2014
If you have 10k hp is normal -.- I can easy deal 50k whit HoF on crit -.- And i'm not a DPS Dc
Ther eno glitch -.- Why no one care and read that feats? It say:
You lose 30% of your healing and you save that AMMOUNT on that target. When that target go down of 40%, istant regain that HP saved on them.
Before call glitch or nerf, take some times and read the feats of the other class too. If you let the Dc store the healing, you are deserve to loose in pvp. Learn how to face new mechanics
I 100% agree. The dc is not broken or op. Its just that people dont really understand whats going on. And honestly I dont either as a cw I'm going to control them to the best of my ability anyway....its what i do lol XD Soooo i never really see the crazy heals often. unless.... i have the encounters needed to stop it on cd...then it get interesting lol. However even with the healing 9 times out of ten it will be their death. I like the dc as it is right now and hope they leave it that way.
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aaablacklady9Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 81Arc User
edited November 2014
If you prevent the Dc from healing, that feats don't work. So, you can easy kill a DC. If you let him use Bastion of Healt, healing word and divine glow, you are doomed and he can perma regenerate the Hp each time he go down of 40%
I am a GWF a very average one, and I see no problem with DC s - you just have to accept that they are a viable class in pvp now and adapt. They can still be taken down if needed. People really shouldnt moan about every new change.
Also I can understand that people moaned about TR as it was a bug and the way they killed people was insane. But to moan that an healer heals - that is absurd. Until mod5 in pvp having a dc in the team was seen as an disadvantage. People were like - we have an healer our team is so much weaker. Now that the healer has been fixed to heal properly. People want it to be useless again. Simply accept it and find ways to kill it.
Seriously I really do not understand why devs made a healer to deal tons of damage and for the sake of common sense support class should never be as tanky as a GF. Im starting to think that this game are just for laugh!
The dev change DC mechanic to a more active one, but a DC in a pvp match holding a node, with old astral shield and another class to help him in damage were VERY hard to defeat.
I understand it deserved some buff more, but I think the problem it's still the same: we couldn't pretend that our class does EVERYTHING, like tons of defence, buff team, big health reg and a good dmg too.
This regard all, CW and HR too.
otherwise, just make a 1vs1 pvp, not a team one, cause it's a nosense
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aaablacklady9Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 81Arc User
edited November 2014
I don't do pvp, why i have to take another Nerf because there still someone that wont to do Rambo and kill the whole team alone?
"I don't do pvp" is exactly the problem I suggested you when I wrote "look this from a larger point of view".
if you couldn't understand this there is nothing I can do.
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aaablacklady9Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 81Arc User
edited November 2014
Maybe, but if i didn't do pvp, why they have to nerf that feats on pve because someone isn't unable to cooperate for kill a DC? Dc aren't immortal, if you prevent them from using healing spell, that feats don't proc. If you wont an easy game, you can go play lol or some other ****ness game pvp based
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I shoot you with a LVL 3 insult regarding a large family member! I roll a crit and proc your SF, then your pay to win Artifact Set heals you to full and you deposit a counter insult my way which I dodge with mad skillz..and we continue
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
Cant take that long bro, I have to pause my brutal, virtual killing spree to catch the Will and Grace rerun..
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
DPS clerics can hit as hard or harder than SWs...which is crazy considering even when going DPS, BiS ones are quite tanky.
Must consider how DCs are always targeted by multiple enemies and primary targets, so they must be able to endure it, but should not be able to make their party immortal. Less healing on allies, keep the healing like this for tank DCs, decrease DPS for DPS DCs to balance.
Sorry, being a free kill times are over, L2P against DCs and adapt to changes, you want easy kills, go for pve.
Since all the pve content could be done with a 11-12k GS the real thing where you have to watch for balance is pvp.
There you will find the 23/25k gs monster and the real zen buyer (cause of competition), who are the real target for Cryptic.
After that, I would let you know that DC are always my first choice in rpg cause I love their role and support the team, as I found illogical the great defense of CW when they are dps spec or extreme damage from GS when they can block, mitigate and reduce almost everything.
so stop caressing your toon and try to have a larger point of view.
So either the feat is Overpowered or they have found an exploit. Anyway this calls for a balance for PvP.
You lose 30% of your healing and you save that AMMOUNT on that target. When that target go down of 40%, istant regain that HP saved on them.
Before call glitch or nerf, take some times and read the feats of the other class too. If you let the Dc store the healing, you are deserve to loose in pvp. Learn how to face new mechanics
Personally I think the DC is in a good spot right now. Its bs for people to say they cant be killed. I kill them all the time. And no I dont play dc nor have I ever. Leave the DC alone! It has epic heals.....its a healer imagine that...... If its the damage build it will hit decently just like any other class. I'm not getting what makes them so bad to people. I think they are a nice challenge at a point and its always a good fight ...well against good ones. Others just fall over as soon as they step on point XD.
I 100% agree. The dc is not broken or op. Its just that people dont really understand whats going on. And honestly I dont either as a cw I'm going to control them to the best of my ability anyway....its what i do lol XD Soooo i never really see the crazy heals often. unless.... i have the encounters needed to stop it on cd...then it get interesting lol. However even with the healing 9 times out of ten it will be their death. I like the dc as it is right now and hope they leave it that way.
LOL! how many slaps did you receive for stupidity?! ahahaha TR
I understand it deserved some buff more, but I think the problem it's still the same: we couldn't pretend that our class does EVERYTHING, like tons of defence, buff team, big health reg and a good dmg too.
This regard all, CW and HR too.
otherwise, just make a 1vs1 pvp, not a team one, cause it's a nosense
if you couldn't understand this there is nothing I can do.