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clonkyo1
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how i can explain this.... yes: insane defense, insane buffs.... and worse of them all: insane DIRECT healings. I saw a 13k DC healing for 50ks to an almost dead GF... THAT is NUTS!
Pls, fix them, that way, we can play again PvP.
EDIT: AH. i almost forgot about that insane dodge they have right now!!!!
Pls, fix them, that way, we can play again PvP.
EDIT: AH. i almost forgot about that insane dodge they have right now!!!!
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and yes DC needs a tonedown with healings its ridiculous when i almost kill a person then DC comes out of nowhere and i see 40-50k heals that heals the person from 1% to 100%
Poor soul didnt have time to log out.
HR Stormwarden Trapper / Stormwarden Combat
GWF Swordmaster Destroyer
CW Master of Flame Thaumaturge / Spellstorm Oppressor
TR Master Infiltrator Executioner
SW Soulbinder Fury
My opinion about your thread:
I have seen DC's dying in less than 3 seconds.
Before this patch DC were a joke in pvp. Poor healings, poor dodge, poor DPS (which i consider is still good, since healers are not dps players) and poor buffs. The current patch made him more playable and with an important role in pvp. Some of the old powers that were considered good get nerfed (astral shield), which is not healing anymore. And about their defense? Guardians always top this. so i dont know exactly ur poing. I do agree their healings have to be tone down, but not that much, otherwise we are going to be back to the old cleric. I do have a cleric and thats why i'm telling you. my cleric sometimes is killed by a TR in less than 2 secs, is that fair?
HR Stormwarden Trapper / Stormwarden Combat
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CW Master of Flame Thaumaturge / Spellstorm Oppressor
TR Master Infiltrator Executioner
SW Soulbinder Fury
heals have to scale with power not 50k random (where is the pvp-heal-debuff?)
and now they have op dots like other stupid classes..
ah yea, sun burst ignore shield gf and other control immunity :L
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exactly! agree
i have question: that 50k heal was a direct heal? or a HoT? if it was a HoT u still have time to kill that person. as a direct heal, i would say yes it is too much
But DoT's are only in righteous feat. the normalDoT on powers is low if they are not buffed
If it's the case, nerfing to 1/4 on all healing is way too much.
Yes. Faithful has a feat that when a player's hp goes down 45% hp. The feat reduces healings by a 25% to be stacked in gift of the fait, then they are healed for that amount, plus that any other HoT done to the player is removed to stack in that gift.
You may be talking about balancing Gift of Fait.
Basically what it does is store a part of each healing provided by the cleric and when you hit 45% HP, boom! It fills your HP. Regular healing is working nice and not OP but this feat seems to be a little too powerful.
HR Stormwarden Trapper / Stormwarden Combat
GWF Swordmaster Destroyer
CW Master of Flame Thaumaturge / Spellstorm Oppressor
TR Master Infiltrator Executioner
SW Soulbinder Fury
I have dodged many powers, and that is supposed to be a dodge, isnt it? to dodge ^^. at least they can dodge powers, My poor SW is killed when he is shadowing.
And yes gift of faith is a feat that heals immediately, maybe thats why the player u were about to kill got healed for 50k.
More than the cleric's dodge itself, Smoke Bomb has a really slow activation time even after you cast it, it takes a moment to make effect. I'm able to avoid it with any class that can dodge.
HR Stormwarden Trapper / Stormwarden Combat
GWF Swordmaster Destroyer
CW Master of Flame Thaumaturge / Spellstorm Oppressor
TR Master Infiltrator Executioner
SW Soulbinder Fury
balance is when you can't kill me 1v1, but i can't take away even 1/10 of your health.
but you just want to swing your 30k ibs and next target? pff
yesterday we were 4 vs 1 18k DC, nothing of us were rogue ok, but we weren't able to take the dc down cause every time he went under 1/2 health he automatically regain the whole thing.
Put this with another random class player and there is no game.
Another problem is that dev. keep rising everythin toward higher level of damage, so we all need to gain more max hit point and then other patch will come out and everything restart.
This doesn't work, expecially for newcomer, that in pvp end game will find toons, like GF or now DC, that are impossible to take down.
For example, some months ago, GF need a buff on defence because they weren't tanky as their role must be, but now what we have after a couple of patch?
Insane 60k health GF that regenerate every tic for almost 6k health and just run with their shield up, getting 1/4 of normal damage.
Plus they could hit you like train with the right rotation and they are almost impossible to CC...
My suggestion is to tone down everything a bit and give every class their role.
DC: just right know, but a little less single shot healing
GF: less damage
GWF: now with the new little nerf on intimidation, I found them like maybe the most balanced class.
CC: they are control wiz, so good to take down damage, but make they able to control you (at least in oppressor tree) because now, in the very end game, a good control wiz could control in pvp for a fraction of sec. without considering the CC break thatquite every class own (plus the nosense deflection bonus, expecially with HR)
HR: just tone down their life steal bonus.
TR: not bad now, even with DoT now they are more stealthed than before.
SW: I don't play it so I can't suggest anything
Just give us more teamwork!
You will need more than 2 to attempt to take down a good DC. Good DCs have a lot of defense and deflect. Every time they go below 40% they will heal back up. You have to be very lucky with high crits to do it. And if they pop astral shield, no damage to them. DCs are not in a great spot. There is also a bug that allows them to do insane damage. Those issues will not be fixed or nerfed as fast as the TR SoD because it is not so easily visible. DCs(CW/GWF/HR) will get to enjoy their time in the sun a lot longer than the TRs will.
so if we have 2 DCs the team needs 4 equally geared players to kill? niceeeeee we should bring 3 DCs then since we know 6 people can't fit in a team.
if what you meant by "great spot" is "OP spot" then yes I agree with you, theyre in a great spot but thats far from balanced.
that's the point, now a premade in pvp just need 3 DC, one each point, and the job is done.
Other two can go out for a beer.
And how would those 3 or 2 DCs kill anyone?
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CW Master of Flame Thaumaturge / Spellstorm Oppressor
TR Master Infiltrator Executioner
SW Soulbinder Fury
Thanks man, finally something sensible here
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