Actually these new rings are great for the undergeared who want to try PVP - they don't need to first complete 13 PVP campaign tasks in order to get good rings, they can craft good rings themselves.
Actually these new rings are great for the undergeared who want to try PVP - they don't need to first complete 13 PVP campaign tasks in order to get good rings, they can craft good rings themselves.
pvp compain rings aren't good at all , however they let you wear any intressting pve gear and still have 650 tenacity .
but with this new ones you are forced to wear the pvp set to have tenacity -_-
It's interesting that there are players going on and on about how the game is becoming alt-unfriendly, which is laughably untrue. There's a very big difference between a competent character and a maxed out character.
It's actually very easy to make a competent character in this game. In fact, no other MMO I've ever played allows you to create a competent character capable of tackling just about all end game pve content in two or so weeks, if you already know your way around the game. Less if you play like a maniac. With enchants being unbound (you can keep working on them even as you play your alts, and gold is dirt cheap) you essentially only need to max out artifacts, and getting those to purple is easy enough. Legendary gear is different, they're supposed to be "legendary". In WoW it takes about 3-4 months to get a legendary for your character, and you'll definitely want the help of guildies while you're at it. Here it takes 3 weeks, casual, no outside help required, and even with only casual play (and assuming you use Dragon Hoards) as long as you devote RP points into your gear you could get it to purple in a month. Given current RP prices though you could get that to Legendary instead.
Now, this is all regardless of the fact that PvE content is actually easier nowadays (even without the power creep from artifact gear). And for the record, back in mod 1+ casual players actually had to work 3 or so months just to get -pieces- of competent gear. And even that wasn't enough given the relative difficulty of dungeons at the time. Nowadays you can just get by with just an artifact weapon, skill and enough LS.
Seriously, why don't you people just ask for all zen store items become free while you're at it.
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It s different, they give the chance to have characters in the same account but there nothing bound to the account itself different from the zen mount. Not even tarmabars.
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onecoolscatcatMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 575Arc User
It's interesting that there are players going on and on about how the game is becoming alt-unfriendly, which is laughably untrue. There's a very big difference between a competent character and a maxed out character.
It's actually very easy to make a competent character in this game. In fact, no other MMO I've ever played allows you to create a competent character capable of tackling just about all end game pve content in two or so weeks, if you already know your way around the game. Less if you play like a maniac. With enchants being unbound (you can keep working on them even as you play your alts, and gold is dirt cheap) you essentially only need to max out artifacts, and getting those to purple is easy enough. Legendary gear is different, they're supposed to be "legendary". In WoW it takes about 3-4 months to get a legendary for your character, and you'll definitely want the help of guildies while you're at it. Here it takes 3 weeks, casual, no outside help required, and even with only casual play (and assuming you use Dragon Hoards) as long as you devote RP points into your gear you could get it to purple in a month. Given current RP prices though you could get that to Legendary instead.
Now, this is all regardless of the fact that PvE content is actually easier nowadays (even without the power creep from artifact gear). And for the record, back in mod 1+ casual players actually had to work 3 or so months just to get -pieces- of competent gear. And even that wasn't enough given the relative difficulty of dungeons at the time. Nowadays you can just get by with just an artifact weapon, skill and enough LS.
Seriously, why don't you people just ask for all zen store items become free while you're at it.
a pile of bs, to get an alt going you need campaigns, to do all campaigns its some 12 hours/day
enchants are unlocked but switching is a pain in the rear, especially if u play more than 1 character a day
refining, ok its top end gear and stuff, and u do get free artifacts but still you need to get an epic carpal tunnel syndrome to refine them(that is if you somehow have the ad)
end game pve content is pathetic, you could probably do it in blue gear, and if nobody has solod eLoL then i think ppl will in mod5
5 companions/character, companions are boe and a purchase unlocks only 1 not for all characters(with exception of smth like erinyes) and you need millions of ad to upgrade companions, AND the upgrade is only for that character
a pile of bs, to get an alt going you need campaigns, to do all campaigns its some 12 hours/day
enchants are unlocked but switching is a pain in the rear, especially if u play more than 1 character a day
refining, ok its top end gear and stuff, and u do get free artifacts but still you need to get an epic carpal tunnel syndrome to refine them(that is if you somehow have the ad)
I find it as easy as it ever was to create new alts and raise them to an acceptable GS (capability).
Few things that you need to consider:
- some relics are like 8k (ToD relics coming) and can make it much easier for you
- the class artifacts were introduced which is fantastic for alts
- also stack of r4 are cheap as ever when it comes to refining artifacts
- shared bankslots were introduced
- Rank 5's are very easy to get in for example in icewind dale
BUT i have to agree that those customized rings should be made BoA mayb bind on Character when you equip them on the toon you desire
Seriously? You consider reasoning along the lines of "leveling alts for high end PvP" rational?
How wonderfully gifted must these people be to actually pull that off, considering how many of us have had to focus on only one main at a time just to remain competitive at what we do.
As for people who actually have struggling PvP mains, that issue has more to do with how PvP matchmaking currently works.
As for new content, it is possible to "passively" progress through some campaigns or just do the minimum amount of effort required. It's slow, and there is definitely room for improvement, but it's possible.
You there. New to the game? Feeling overwhelmed? Maybe you think getting to end-game is impossible for a casual player like yourself, or maybe you just need to be around a community that helps each other stay sane and competitive with the latest news, current trends, random chitchat and most of all LEGIT (that is, we try to keep things fair) gameplay. If you don't mind being around quirky people and the rare occasional drama (one of our prominent TR members is apparently a mafia godfather) join nw_legit_community at http://www.nwlegitcommunity.shivtr.com/forum_threads/2330542.
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hammeredhellMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 27Arc User
edited November 2014
Bind on Pick-up crafted rings/necks/belts should be account bound to be more alt-friendly... as it stands on preview currently as a bop this would be another in a long line of making this game far too time/resource consuming to have more than two decent characters....
other examples;
19 min respawns on 5 different zones to do daily dragons....which is why every1 is spamin to find a *reasonable* respawn time....
overpriced cost of dragon books in the store + the super low drop rate in skirm/dungeon when u consider the fact that ultimately u'll need 6 books total per character upon mod 5 release to get all ur boons.
even the zen store buyouts of campaigns seem a little misleading saying it unlocks everything...but u still have to farm a ton for mats to actually complete the boons..especially in sharandar.
beckylunaticMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 14,231Arc User
edited November 2014
The budget way to do it is going to be with mass-gathering, so as "difficult" as levelling something like artificing where you set and forget as many slots as you want to put towards it. There are no non-magical items to make and vendor.
Out of curriosity, just how difficult is the leveling up process?
Leveling Jewelcrafting... its messy, but you get use with it quite fast. Nice profession, but why so much trash before you get it lvl20...
Only bad thing is BoP -items at end... and ofcource that you need 4x Purple crafting item what will increase gap between fresh new players and old players.
Fun side is made true "glasscannon" for Premade PvP where team really works with you, xD.
Suggestion:
Make BiS items from Jewelcrafting "account bound" or even "BoE"... or lover requirements, (I can afford needed tools, but many can not)
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ironzerg79Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,942Arc User
Make BiS items from Jewelcrafting "account bound" or even "BoE"... or lover requirements, (I can afford needed tools, but many can not)
The ring you need to make in order to upgrade it to the "Personalized" version is BoE. The Personalized version doesn't have ranks, so you just have to make it.
If you don't have four purple tools, it will be possible to just buy the BoE precursor from the AH, then upgrade it yourself.
The ring you need to make in order to upgrade it to the "Personalized" version is BoE. The Personalized version doesn't have ranks, so you just have to make it.
If you don't have four purple tools, it will be possible to just buy the BoE precursor from the AH, then upgrade it yourself.
True what you say, so now it depends who can pay price for new rings in order to get TOP -gear.(if they beat "tenacity" gear)
For Pve, rings are really nice but characters are now powerfull enough...
The ring you need to make in order to upgrade it to the "Personalized" version is BoE. The Personalized version doesn't have ranks, so you just have to make it.
If you don't have four purple tools, it will be possible to just buy the BoE precursor from the AH, then upgrade it yourself.
That doesn't solve the issue of having to level the same profession up for each toon you have, which adds up. Really you gain nothing from it apart from wasting time and killing enjoyment. Making the change will be a good QoL improvement to players with multiple toons and for the ones who want to profit from the profession. After all you can make a profit selling gemmed shirts because buyers don't need the profession or the tools, with this since they need the profession you have a more limited market.
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With no tenacity....
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pvp compain rings aren't good at all , however they let you wear any intressting pve gear and still have 650 tenacity .
but with this new ones you are forced to wear the pvp set to have tenacity -_-
It's actually very easy to make a competent character in this game. In fact, no other MMO I've ever played allows you to create a competent character capable of tackling just about all end game pve content in two or so weeks, if you already know your way around the game. Less if you play like a maniac. With enchants being unbound (you can keep working on them even as you play your alts, and gold is dirt cheap) you essentially only need to max out artifacts, and getting those to purple is easy enough. Legendary gear is different, they're supposed to be "legendary". In WoW it takes about 3-4 months to get a legendary for your character, and you'll definitely want the help of guildies while you're at it. Here it takes 3 weeks, casual, no outside help required, and even with only casual play (and assuming you use Dragon Hoards) as long as you devote RP points into your gear you could get it to purple in a month. Given current RP prices though you could get that to Legendary instead.
Now, this is all regardless of the fact that PvE content is actually easier nowadays (even without the power creep from artifact gear). And for the record, back in mod 1+ casual players actually had to work 3 or so months just to get -pieces- of competent gear. And even that wasn't enough given the relative difficulty of dungeons at the time. Nowadays you can just get by with just an artifact weapon, skill and enough LS.
Seriously, why don't you people just ask for all zen store items become free while you're at it.
Suggestion:
Rather than "Personalized Archmage's Ring +6" how about [character name]'s Ring +6?
That would be cool
a pile of bs, to get an alt going you need campaigns, to do all campaigns its some 12 hours/day
enchants are unlocked but switching is a pain in the rear, especially if u play more than 1 character a day
refining, ok its top end gear and stuff, and u do get free artifacts but still you need to get an epic carpal tunnel syndrome to refine them(that is if you somehow have the ad)
end game pve content is pathetic, you could probably do it in blue gear, and if nobody has solod eLoL then i think ppl will in mod5
5 companions/character, companions are boe and a purchase unlocks only 1 not for all characters(with exception of smth like erinyes) and you need millions of ad to upgrade companions, AND the upgrade is only for that character
I find it as easy as it ever was to create new alts and raise them to an acceptable GS (capability).
Few things that you need to consider:
- some relics are like 8k (ToD relics coming) and can make it much easier for you
- the class artifacts were introduced which is fantastic for alts
- also stack of r4 are cheap as ever when it comes to refining artifacts
- shared bankslots were introduced
- Rank 5's are very easy to get in for example in icewind dale
BUT i have to agree that those customized rings should be made BoA mayb bind on Character when you equip them on the toon you desire
How wonderfully gifted must these people be to actually pull that off, considering how many of us have had to focus on only one main at a time just to remain competitive at what we do.
As for people who actually have struggling PvP mains, that issue has more to do with how PvP matchmaking currently works.
As for new content, it is possible to "passively" progress through some campaigns or just do the minimum amount of effort required. It's slow, and there is definitely room for improvement, but it's possible.
other examples;
19 min respawns on 5 different zones to do daily dragons....which is why every1 is spamin to find a *reasonable* respawn time....
overpriced cost of dragon books in the store + the super low drop rate in skirm/dungeon when u consider the fact that ultimately u'll need 6 books total per character upon mod 5 release to get all ur boons.
even the zen store buyouts of campaigns seem a little misleading saying it unlocks everything...but u still have to farm a ton for mats to actually complete the boons..especially in sharandar.
Neverwinter Census 2017
All posts pending disapproval by Cecilia
Leveling Jewelcrafting... its messy, but you get use with it quite fast. Nice profession, but why so much trash before you get it lvl20...
Only bad thing is BoP -items at end... and ofcource that you need 4x Purple crafting item what will increase gap between fresh new players and old players.
Fun side is made true "glasscannon" for Premade PvP where team really works with you, xD.
Suggestion:
Make BiS items from Jewelcrafting "account bound" or even "BoE"... or lover requirements, (I can afford needed tools, but many can not)
The ring you need to make in order to upgrade it to the "Personalized" version is BoE. The Personalized version doesn't have ranks, so you just have to make it.
If you don't have four purple tools, it will be possible to just buy the BoE precursor from the AH, then upgrade it yourself.
True what you say, so now it depends who can pay price for new rings in order to get TOP -gear.(if they beat "tenacity" gear)
For Pve, rings are really nice but characters are now powerfull enough...
Well, good to have new profession anyway.
That doesn't solve the issue of having to level the same profession up for each toon you have, which adds up. Really you gain nothing from it apart from wasting time and killing enjoyment. Making the change will be a good QoL improvement to players with multiple toons and for the ones who want to profit from the profession. After all you can make a profit selling gemmed shirts because buyers don't need the profession or the tools, with this since they need the profession you have a more limited market.