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Do you think the refinement system is fun?
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fantasycharacter
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I object to your objection
Personally, I interact with the refinement system on a very limited basis - since enchants don't stack once refined, I basically sit on those that drop in the gameworld, and only refine when I actually need an enchant.
Most of my characters have 1 purple artifact, (from the Dragonborn pack), and the rest are blue or green. I haven't even gotten far enough into the ToD campaign on any characters to get the Dragonhorde enchants, due to my finding the grind too un-fun to pursue, (and this is even in comparison to Sharandar).
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The goal of a Refining system shouldn't be "have fun", but it shouldn't have to be tedious and punishing as the current system.
So "Do you think the refinement system is fun/could use change?"
A: No, and it doesn't have to be fun, but the system could use some change.
And the cold hard truth of the matter is that unless you buy a ton of enchantments to mass refine it's a non issue. The inventory space and the constant stops to refine in order to maintain inventory space is far more of an issue to the average player who do not regularly have stacks of enchantments.
Agreed. Though games are generally regarded as being something that is fun, and this is part of a game.
if not fun, at the very least it should be a neutral experience, but never "painful" to do.
I do not agree with you on this. Iam a somewhat new player and got my very first artifact-weapon yesterday and iam already extremly annoyed by that refining system.
Why can i not just drag and drop the stuff on the item or something like this? >.>
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I don't mind refining, but i want to do it by the stack. If they did that, it would be fine. This is just i think... well... they are trying to sell us high RP items with zen, so they make doing it with low RP items so you will get impatient and spend zen, imo.
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Why? This sytem is sick.
Milions of ref point we need make a legendary. How long we must play to do this? Weeks, months, years?
If we play normaly - some daily quest, some dungon, make a leg anythink is insane and cant be done.
Farming is only way to help us, but? Not for sure. Who have time to this? No each player is no live.
For me refinig system is end made a purple weapon, belt, arti. Better is insane - not for all.
Hoards can help but? or now i have 8% and what? This is to small if we play normally, not farming.
I want have leg somethink but not if i must play months and focus only this, this is total insane.
But soon we dont have alternative. All will be arti gear !!!! and all need refinig. This will be on for me in this game.
Some change we need !!! We i mean normal players, not farmers.
What's not fine now, is a much longer list. Among others:
Lack of a "spend all your enchants" feature is a direct threat at your IRL health (hand, fingers, wrist will suffer)
All the junk items should be usable as RP-food. Lockboxes, typically.
There should not be all those Zen-market, IRL-money things in the process. Refining should just be a matter of refining food.
Unless you plan on spending 50 bucks a week on this game, forget refining.
Honestly, the bottleneck for me is the Mark of Potency. 25k AD is insane.
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What Chemboy said and Zeb got me thinking.
Remember the lady who bought the coffee at Mcdonalds then it spilled on her and she sued, and the court decided to award her millions (though I think she settled out of court, undisclosed).
The courts awarded her millions because McDonalds was purposely making their coffee too hot so people in the morning would be less likely to come back for a refill. (people didnt know this prior, or it was later revealed through the investigation)
Just random thoughts, guess Ill vote now.
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Lol, zeb, I know this! I'm a lawyer actually and I know i can't sue for it XD XD XD
I was making a joke, my friend!
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If you think it's bad now, just wait until every dam slot on your character requires millions of it...
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Didn't think it would allow "<font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>". I used crud.
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In general the system is good., BUT change that needs to happen:
1) mass dump in of enchants into refinement points. whole stacks of 99, etc rather thatn click refine 5 things all day long.
2) silly point inflation at top end.
It is working as intended, it was not intended to be used by people who buy stacks of enchants. If it gets to boring do something else, buy higher value refinement things other then stacks like a diamond.
The average player does not buy stacks to refine daily and often enough for the devs to work on "how to make this fun" because let's me honest. Would this ever be fun, even if you could instantly go from green to legendary by putting in a few stacks - no.
They sell high value RP in the zen store for a ludicrous amount of money....who is gonna buy them if you can refine whole stacks?
To make examples: low value stones ad/rp ratio is 0.8, zen ones over 7....
Money the answer is always money to every question of the life.
We use Hoards enchantsment - and results are not good. Too many <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> drops: perls, peridots.
I sugest: in now can make 15% to chance drop: armor, gloves, shoes, arti belt and necklace = 3x5%. What i sugest? If we up our % chance drop, not only up % chance but add "chance to get a better drop".
To have 15% is very expensive (5x1,5kk=7,5kk ad - this a lot) than if we decide do this - result shoud be better than only pearls and peridots but much more a sapphires, opals.
Sry for my bad english. But idea is simple = more % with hoards more chances to get a better drops: sapphires, opals.
No matter how many times people say that, it will not make it true. I have *never* bought stacks of stuff to use in refinement and it is still an issue to me. Leadership gets me my own stacks of <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> to refine. That and dragon hoard enchants. And this double refinement event is getting me quite a few stacks as well. This isn't just an issue for people who buy stacks of enchants.