As stated above, the artifact
And the reason that ppl could stay there where they were for limitless time, without having to worry their inventory will eventually be full.
As you could sell the stuff there.
And thus no more backpacks were needed for a lot people.
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ghoulz66Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 3,748Arc User
Too bad the distilled pots for the artifact are bop meaning that to get most of its use, I have to have it on a separate account. and multibox. Of course the insane refinig costs make it not very worth it anyway.
Being able to sell anywhere greatly eased the strain on bag space and made the Catalogue artifact redundant.
It is not designed to be convenient for you.
If that's the case then why have they left it in the Gateway? if their sole reasoning behind this unnecessary move was to give some kind of point to the existence of the catalog then why not remove the ability to sell remotely completely other than by using the catalog? players in game have just as much need to clear bag space as gateway players ,plus nothing to prevent players loggin into gateway at the same time as the game ,its a needless inconvenience .
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chaoscourtesanMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2014
Logging into the gateway is more of a drag than stopping what I am doing to hunt a vendor. I have to do the machine verification every single time I log in, because I don't store junk in my browser.
So I just save the 6 silver piece junk and the blue junk. I don't even pick up greens, and when they just stick it in my inventory as they sometimes do, it's a drag.. doing what I was already doing (dragging and dropping,) but not getting a silver piece for it.
I no longer view the owners of this game the same way I once did. I wish that it weren't so...
Anyway.. that's the last I have to say about this or anything else they decide to do. I can't afford to care about it.
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beckylunaticMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 14,231Arc User
edited May 2014
I would venture that there are a couple of reasons.
One is that there are people accessing Gateway while not also in the game who have need to clear inventory space (levelling armorsmithing professions by crafting and vendoring pants, for example). Gateway has no overflow function at all, and no way to wander over to a store, or use an artifact, or anything else.
Another is that tabbing out to Gateway isn't really a satisfactory solution while you're anywhere that might be considered dangerous or when people are waiting on you, so leaving it in place as an option doesn't have the same impact as a readily accessible in-game anywhere-shop.
Another is that they've done a few things now to encourage more people to use Gateway more often. It really keeps the hooks in. (And I say that as a mostly satisfied Gateway user.) If publicizing this function draws in more Gateway users, I think that's very much in line with the fiscal reasoning behind having a Gateway at all.
Keep in mind the steps that have been taken to discourage using overflow bags as bonus storage space as well. Inconveniencing players means that at least some of them will fork over for convenience. (I got a cheap Catalogue for my character that I run most Foundry content on long before I heard about being able to sell to the WB, because I'm obsessive and want my 1.1 silver for all those un-IDed greens, dammit.)
It's not all about the Catalog Artifact, but it does help give the Catalog Artifact more relevance. Hurrah. whatever.
There are a lot of reasons why they do the things they do and 9 times in 10 our guesses are likely way off the mark in terms of primary reasons. So what? If it's inconvenient for you then just stop playing. Or deal with the so-called inconvenience. How the heck something can be "inconvenient" when you're still sitting on the same butt in the same chair you always are while playing the game is the real mystery here.
Who cares about not being able to sell remotely to the Bazaar? I've been in-game since way before open beta and I only realized I could do this a few months ago. So now that ability is gone. Fine. It belatedly vindicates my choice of the Aurora Catalog way back when the Artifacts were first introduced.
And for my alts that don't have the catalog: Pffft - just remember to always hit-up a vendor before delving on a quest - and stop picking-up red items. 'Nuff said.
LOL I never sold to the Wondrous Bazar anyways? Did not realise I could. LOL is the reason why I bought the Artifact.
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So you gonna discard unidentified greens to be able to pick up worthwhile loot you'll lose what? 4 silver? before you reach a store. Not a big deal really.
You cared about it quite a bit when I told you how to use it as a work around for your bug, Mr. Mouth.
If that's the impression you got, then you're reading way too much into what people say. I reported a bug. You responded with a work around. They had since fixed the bug. Nothing shrill to see here, move along.
So you gonna discard unidentified greens to be able to pick up worthwhile loot you'll lose what? 4 silver? before you reach a store. Not a big deal really.
First, the change was definitely to sell more bags. The Catalog artifact let you sell but its real advantage was you could buy health pots and injury kits (something the Bazaar did not). So the Catalog was always worthwhile sans the horrible stats it gave.
Second, to those who don't care about the change it was likely because you just didn't know it was there and you have been pitching money all this time by discarding those drops to save inventory space. I made hundreds of gold on my toons by selling those worthless greens and blues to the Bazaar. Hundreds. I can buy pots, injury kits, and swap enchants without a care in the world. You missed out on a really awesome and convenient feature in the game.
That's 20% of a major injury kit. That's a big deal to some people, judging by the people crying about needing them for PvP.
Back on topic: First a shared bank and now this. Cryptic is simply increasing the zen market for bag/bank space.
You can buy injury kits for silver? where?
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fraenciskinzMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 3Arc User
edited May 2014
Hello everyone,
Since last update it is no more possible to sell via the panel of the Mervellous Bazar.
It was a really good point for most of people who dont have time to waste, on their gaming time, in stupid travels to the cities to empty bags and to win gold.
People are here to play quest and so on, not to loose their time to clean inventories ! ! !
So i hope its only a mistake , and that the team of development will soon repair this "PROBLEM" .
fraenciskinzMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 3Arc User
edited May 2014
It is totally unusefull !
People will spend time to clean inventories instead of playing.
It was a really good point for this game and they removed it ....
now we have to rush between vendor , auction and so on , as it was really convenient, helpfull and smart to offer to players the possibility to easy acces to all those action through only one panel...
I really hope they will change their mind, cause as i can see im not the only one to be upset by this change ...
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ambisinisterrMember, Neverwinter ModeratorPosts: 10,462Community Moderator
edited May 2014
Honestly, it probably never should have been accessible to begin with. I have never played a game where you could access a store to sell items anywhere in the world without having to physically go to the store.
The fact the feature remained available as long as it did is surprising to say the least.
They still let you sell through the gateway. And they even commented that, use of the gateway is intended. So it seems a little odd to close one door and leave another open.
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kalyuxaMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I never even knew that you could sell items that way while out adventuring (well, used to). The first artifact I always got was the Aurora's Catalogue just for that purpose. You learn something new every day.
If it's any consolation, two of my characters have one to legendary status, and while it's expensive to do so, the distilled major healing potions are incredible (pricey as all-get-out, but they take a lot of the load off using life stones). Once you use one of those healing potions you'll wonder how you ever got along without them.
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They fix minor revenue issues like this yet allow their own major competitors, the gold farmers, to run ramped and steal their customers away from them on their very own site. Really who is going to buy zen to buy ad, even at 500ad/1zen when you can buy a million ad from a spammer for less than $10? Makes no **** sense. All this is going to do is cause people to buy more spammer ad so they can buy more bags. Nice job there cryptic.
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I'm not puzzled at all.
Being able to sell anywhere greatly eased the strain on bag space and made the Catalogue artifact redundant.
It is not designed to be convenient for you.
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And the reason that ppl could stay there where they were for limitless time, without having to worry their inventory will eventually be full.
As you could sell the stuff there.
And thus no more backpacks were needed for a lot people.
$.$
lawl I never knew you could sell your stuff from the AD tab vendor.
If that's the case then why have they left it in the Gateway? if their sole reasoning behind this unnecessary move was to give some kind of point to the existence of the catalog then why not remove the ability to sell remotely completely other than by using the catalog? players in game have just as much need to clear bag space as gateway players ,plus nothing to prevent players loggin into gateway at the same time as the game ,its a needless inconvenience .
So I just save the 6 silver piece junk and the blue junk. I don't even pick up greens, and when they just stick it in my inventory as they sometimes do, it's a drag.. doing what I was already doing (dragging and dropping,) but not getting a silver piece for it.
I no longer view the owners of this game the same way I once did. I wish that it weren't so...
Anyway.. that's the last I have to say about this or anything else they decide to do. I can't afford to care about it.
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One is that there are people accessing Gateway while not also in the game who have need to clear inventory space (levelling armorsmithing professions by crafting and vendoring pants, for example). Gateway has no overflow function at all, and no way to wander over to a store, or use an artifact, or anything else.
Another is that tabbing out to Gateway isn't really a satisfactory solution while you're anywhere that might be considered dangerous or when people are waiting on you, so leaving it in place as an option doesn't have the same impact as a readily accessible in-game anywhere-shop.
Another is that they've done a few things now to encourage more people to use Gateway more often. It really keeps the hooks in. (And I say that as a mostly satisfied Gateway user.) If publicizing this function draws in more Gateway users, I think that's very much in line with the fiscal reasoning behind having a Gateway at all.
Keep in mind the steps that have been taken to discourage using overflow bags as bonus storage space as well. Inconveniencing players means that at least some of them will fork over for convenience. (I got a cheap Catalogue for my character that I run most Foundry content on long before I heard about being able to sell to the WB, because I'm obsessive and want my 1.1 silver for all those un-IDed greens, dammit.)
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There are a lot of reasons why they do the things they do and 9 times in 10 our guesses are likely way off the mark in terms of primary reasons. So what? If it's inconvenient for you then just stop playing. Or deal with the so-called inconvenience. How the heck something can be "inconvenient" when you're still sitting on the same butt in the same chair you always are while playing the game is the real mystery here.
Who cares about not being able to sell remotely to the Bazaar? I've been in-game since way before open beta and I only realized I could do this a few months ago. So now that ability is gone. Fine. It belatedly vindicates my choice of the Aurora Catalog way back when the Artifacts were first introduced.
And for my alts that don't have the catalog: Pffft - just remember to always hit-up a vendor before delving on a quest - and stop picking-up red items. 'Nuff said.
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on the bright side I almost never remembered to use it al all, so it won't be much change for me XD
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If that's the impression you got, then you're reading way too much into what people say. I reported a bug. You responded with a work around. They had since fixed the bug. Nothing shrill to see here, move along.
Precisely.
Second, to those who don't care about the change it was likely because you just didn't know it was there and you have been pitching money all this time by discarding those drops to save inventory space. I made hundreds of gold on my toons by selling those worthless greens and blues to the Bazaar. Hundreds. I can buy pots, injury kits, and swap enchants without a care in the world. You missed out on a really awesome and convenient feature in the game.
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You can buy injury kits for silver? where?
Since last update it is no more possible to sell via the panel of the Mervellous Bazar.
It was a really good point for most of people who dont have time to waste, on their gaming time, in stupid travels to the cities to empty bags and to win gold.
People are here to play quest and so on, not to loose their time to clean inventories ! ! !
So i hope its only a mistake , and that the team of development will soon repair this "PROBLEM" .
Thanks for advance for it,
Fraencis.
People will spend time to clean inventories instead of playing.
It was a really good point for this game and they removed it ....
now we have to rush between vendor , auction and so on , as it was really convenient, helpfull and smart to offer to players the possibility to easy acces to all those action through only one panel...
I really hope they will change their mind, cause as i can see im not the only one to be upset by this change ...
The fact the feature remained available as long as it did is surprising to say the least.
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If it's any consolation, two of my characters have one to legendary status, and while it's expensive to do so, the distilled major healing potions are incredible (pricey as all-get-out, but they take a lot of the load off using life stones). Once you use one of those healing potions you'll wonder how you ever got along without them.
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There are consumable merchants throughout the game who sell injury kits.
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