test content
Logo
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc
RNG and the Eye of Lathander
nameexpired
Member Posts: 1,282 Arc User
I have 10 toons. Each one has today 53 Thayan Ciphers.
I never traded for 15 Scrip with "Trade Thayan Intelligence".
I used
1 Thayan Ciphers to get Valindras key
7 Thayan Ciphers on Study Thayan Writings
24 Thayan Ciphers to Decipher Thayan Writings
I had to get 220 scrolls for my adamantine gauntlet, which took me ~21 runs per toon in which
I could not get an Eye of Lathander.
I went for the glove immediately, as I did not think the boons to be a major improvement.
So in total I have collected roughly 53+1+7+24=85 Thayan Ciphers (=Lair runs) per toon, from which 21 could not receive an Eye of Lathander.
Up to today I made in total 850 Lair runs, 640 of them with a adamantine gauntlet.
Since the patch on February 6, 2014 (Patch Notes: NW.10.20140128a.4)
So ... before Feb 6: 380 Lair runs
Since Feb 6: 260 Lair runs
In the 380 Lair runs before Feb. 6 I got a total of 6 eyes (1 eye/63 coffers opened with a adamantine gauntlet)
Whereas since Feb. 6 I got 1 eye from 260 runs (1 eye/260 runs) (ironically on someone who already had an Eye of Lathander)
Now, the terrible thing is, I have 7 eyes, but only on 5 toons, as 2 eyes have dropped on someone who already had an eye.
Of course I want to equip all toons with an Eye!
So I kindly ask, is it possible that, while fixing the Arcane Coffer, the drop rate has been decreased?
It there a remote possibility that we might find an Eye of Lathander for the price of 50, 60, 70 or 100 Thayan Ciphers in a shop one day?
Whatever the chance is to receive an eye, may it be 1:10, 3:100 or 1:100,
Lets agree for the time being that the chance it 1:100.
There always is the Chance that I never "roll 100" and never get an eye, with all the grinding I do.
Is there a chance that the Eye of Lathander shop idea is being considered?
I never traded for 15 Scrip with "Trade Thayan Intelligence".
I used
1 Thayan Ciphers to get Valindras key
7 Thayan Ciphers on Study Thayan Writings
24 Thayan Ciphers to Decipher Thayan Writings
I had to get 220 scrolls for my adamantine gauntlet, which took me ~21 runs per toon in which
I could not get an Eye of Lathander.
I went for the glove immediately, as I did not think the boons to be a major improvement.
So in total I have collected roughly 53+1+7+24=85 Thayan Ciphers (=Lair runs) per toon, from which 21 could not receive an Eye of Lathander.
Up to today I made in total 850 Lair runs, 640 of them with a adamantine gauntlet.
Since the patch on February 6, 2014 (Patch Notes: NW.10.20140128a.4)
I made 260 Lair runs, each one eligible for a gauntlet.The Dread Ring Arcane Coffer at the end of a Lair can now only be interacted by one play at a time but will now give rewards based on the gauntlet used to open it and not the lowest quality gauntlet used to open it.
So ... before Feb 6: 380 Lair runs
Since Feb 6: 260 Lair runs
In the 380 Lair runs before Feb. 6 I got a total of 6 eyes (1 eye/63 coffers opened with a adamantine gauntlet)
Whereas since Feb. 6 I got 1 eye from 260 runs (1 eye/260 runs) (ironically on someone who already had an Eye of Lathander)
Now, the terrible thing is, I have 7 eyes, but only on 5 toons, as 2 eyes have dropped on someone who already had an eye.
Of course I want to equip all toons with an Eye!
So I kindly ask, is it possible that, while fixing the Arcane Coffer, the drop rate has been decreased?
It there a remote possibility that we might find an Eye of Lathander for the price of 50, 60, 70 or 100 Thayan Ciphers in a shop one day?
Whatever the chance is to receive an eye, may it be 1:10, 3:100 or 1:100,
Lets agree for the time being that the chance it 1:100.
There always is the Chance that I never "roll 100" and never get an eye, with all the grinding I do.
Is there a chance that the Eye of Lathander shop idea is being considered?
Imaginary Friends are the best friends you can have!
Post edited by nameexpired on
0
Comments
This seems like a decent idea - even if it was set to 100 Cipers so long as it was only available to characters that had an adamantine gauntlet.
That's an interesting post, thank you. I also (predictably) like your idea of buying the eye with all those extra Thayan items, having done a tone of Purple Ghostie Glove(tm) runs on various characters, and only ever seeing one Eye, early on.
The Eye of Lathander probably falls into this category. It will never happen, but I would love for Cryptic to be transparent and forthcoming and "we love our community!" about this sort of thing and publish the drop rates for things like the Eye and the Ancestral Iliyanbruen set pieces and whatnot.
Don't remind me of that tragedy of a game... I've lost countless nights searching for those 3 frickin' Skeleton Warrior Cards...
You can get the PvP artifact for 24k Glory. It might be a high price, but you know how/when to get it.
I'd love something similar with the EoL, if possible. A goal to work for is something wonderful!
Is it possible that the drop rate has lowered? Sure, just look at what happened when tonnes of people got free nightmare mounts. I've often noticed seemingly lower drop rates, such as in vt purples used to seemingly drop more than they do now, gifts of tymora I easily farmed near the start and then started to struggle later on, farming my shadow wolf I got several for my toons without much trouble and after that it didn't seem to drop. It could just be a placebo for how bad the rng is though.
Why stop at just the Eye of Lathander? I'd love to see the Emblem of the Seldarine work the same way and I'm positive there are those who'd like to see Valindra's Crown put onto the same kind of system. I have no problems with an RNG drop, but big items like that should (in my opinion, at least) have some way that you can earn them after a (large) number of runs. Maybe something like 200 or 300 runs and you'll have earned the item in question. Give some kind of new seal from the end boss that character binds on pickup and only drops one seal per run EVER, then an NPC who trades those seals for that lair/dungeon's purples at a rate of 200-300 per item.
Spamming a lair or dungeon endlessly is a lot more tolerable when you know that you will eventually get the item you're looking for rather than writhing and squirming eternally in the fiery depths of RNG Drop-Table Hell.
With all due respect to the level designers and the work they put in, haven't we played through a piece of content more than enough times after 300 runs of it?
Encounter Matrix | Advanced Foundry Topics
Totally agree. It's a waste of peoples time giving something a 1% chance to drop. Especially if it's a daily. No one will be making enough attempts to even come close to not getting burned by RNG.
Think of it as an Angel of Protection (except more rewarding *if* you get it).
If you think RNG is terrible then don't run this dungeon
I've seen enough players WITH this artifact on enclave to know it does drop and a lot of people have acquired it. It is frustrating to get yes but I'd rather go with that than just have everything in this game at once
EoL can not - under any circumstances - be bought. It is BoP always.
You realize you can't buy this artifact?
2 peridots.
2 peridots.
2 peridots.
2 peridots.
And then, just after I'd spent a gazillion ad on a lantern, I go to the coffer. And expecting 2 peridots, find an artifact.
So, I used my maxed blue aurora to refine it, and bingo, level 48 in the blink of an eye.
You've either got to few, or too many.
The people with the biggest complaints about the RNG for this artifact fall into two categories. There are those who aren't in a position to outright buy an artifact, thus are trying to rely on the ones they can get for free (or invested playtime) to fill those empty artifact slots. They were never going to spend any money regardless. They're just disappointed because they had their hopes up.
*But* there are also the completionists, some of whom have no qualms about dropping large sums to get something just because they want to have it. Some of whom have definitely complained about not being able to simply buy this particular artifact, at any price. And for whom the introduction of the star metal gauntlet seems tailor-made, even though it still means being subject to capricious RNG.
Neverwinter Census 2017
All posts pending disapproval by Cecilia
Except that it is a must have artifact for some builds. It is a free rez and it works well with Emblem of the Seladrine for increasing Life Steal and Defense.
I find farmng ok up to a certain extend, but when I read the numbers presented here
I am about to skip it now, since the rates are probably so low that I would basically
have to farm one year in there for a realistic chance to get it.
- Dualspec
- Better rewarding foundry and foundry pvp maps
- Custom PvP leagues with leaderboards instead of the current 'matchmaking'.
- Armory
- make jumping cost stamina (to reduce hopping in pvp)
Except with the angel there is no IF, there is only a WHEN you get it. And that is the point I am trying to make.you have to wait/grind a yearm but you know when you get it.
Right and you eventually get the artifact too.
It might take more days than the angel..... but it is a better reward.
SMH
So which is it? The star metal gauntlet suddenly makes the artifact easy to get?
I thought the percentages were abysmally low? Double or triple of abysmally low is....wait for it.....ABYSMALLY LOW.
RNG by far determines who gets it soon and who has to struggle through frustrations. If they want to blame p2w for the artifact I feel sorry for them.
And if you are a completionist, guess what, you do have to spend time and effort. LOTS OF IT. What is it with these kids today and their impatience?
I got an eye after about 20 or so tries. On the other hand, I haven't seen the SCA thief companion despite many, many more attempts. Random is random.
Yup, gotta add that the Eye is absolutely worth it. The ability to resurrect from afar is priceless.
Yeah, it's pretty sweet. Now I just need one on my other 5 toons lol.
No it certainly does not, but it makes it possible to wring potentially oodles of money out of people trying to get more chances at getting it, possibly far more money than if it were possible to buy it outright in the first place.
Which assessment I originally left out of the post you quoted for reasons of downplaying the cynical take on the whole thing.
Neverwinter Census 2017
All posts pending disapproval by Cecilia
Second best? Going according to AH prices, an Aquamarine. That's sad. I play 4 toons and those are my best.
And then there's that week i played where all i got were peridots, enchantments, and lesser mark of potency. Not even a blue item. Worst week ever. Worst drop rate ever.
Same for the beetle. i got one (not the legendary one) after 4 box, got the Blink dog from the Tower of Celadaine without doing hundred of runs...