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Hello,
There's maybe already a thread about it, I quickly searched, almost 4am soon here and I don't want to spend the all night on this so, sorry.
I just wanted to point out that the community in Neverwinter is just not a nice one.
Ask a question on the global chat, you will have 1 nice answer in PM and 30 other on the global mocking you about how a n.oob and <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> you are etc.
An other thing, when you pug with the group finder, I always (in a skirmish, pvp, dungeon) will say just "Hi" and "Thanks" at the end. 80% of the time, nobody will answer, talk during the dungeon and say anything at the end. That's just very lame !
And you can't blame the group finder for that, it's also in STO or swtor and people are not like that.
How hard is it to respond just "Hi".
So Cryptic, think about it and do something please. It's not nice to be alone and new in this kind of community and you will need new players too to keep this MMO going.
And to other players, I'm not talking about your nice guild and the small circle around it.
I'm talking about the rest of the community, out of your bubble.
thank you
There's maybe already a thread about it, I quickly searched, almost 4am soon here and I don't want to spend the all night on this so, sorry.
I just wanted to point out that the community in Neverwinter is just not a nice one.
Ask a question on the global chat, you will have 1 nice answer in PM and 30 other on the global mocking you about how a n.oob and <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> you are etc.
An other thing, when you pug with the group finder, I always (in a skirmish, pvp, dungeon) will say just "Hi" and "Thanks" at the end. 80% of the time, nobody will answer, talk during the dungeon and say anything at the end. That's just very lame !
And you can't blame the group finder for that, it's also in STO or swtor and people are not like that.
How hard is it to respond just "Hi".
So Cryptic, think about it and do something please. It's not nice to be alone and new in this kind of community and you will need new players too to keep this MMO going.
And to other players, I'm not talking about your nice guild and the small circle around it.
I'm talking about the rest of the community, out of your bubble.
thank you
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I've had much better luck asking for help or seeking answers to my questions in other questing zones.
I'd also like to shamelessly plug NW_Legit_Community - while its original intent was to provide a place for non-cheaters to find dungeon teams, it's grown into a very positive and helpful community in its own right.
Regardless, I urge you to take the negativity with a grain of salt, and not as a true reflection of the Neverwinter players as a whole.
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They can not stop people from sending PMs, so if someone sends you a nasty one, how is that on Cryptic? Report those people and Cryptic can look into taking action, but otherwise, expect that when given anonymity will act like idiots and jerks.
As far as the skirmishes and dungeons go, they can't make people talk to you, either. If you want a more social experience in skirmishes and dungeons then you need to find a guild to join and run those with fellow members.
Oh, and they have a guild section on the forums to make it as easy as possible. Yet another thing that they are doing the best they can with.
You aren't talking about people in their little 'bubbles'? Maybe you should think about finding a nice little bubble of your own so that you don't have to deal with whatever random people end up in your team or respond to your questions.
And no, I am not in a guild. But I know that until I join one that it's PUG city for me, and I have no grounds to complain about it.
What else?
You say they should do something, but what is it exactly that they can do?
They have given us ignore lists, reporting ability, guilds to join and forums to find like-minded players.
They can not make people act nice or talk to each other.
Unfortunately, I've had to switch off zone, LFG and trade chat because Cryptic aren't really getting a handle on the gold-seller spam. It was damaging my calm. This is the first game in which I've ever done this and I've been playing MMOs a long time. I feel a little sad that I'm missing out potentially on some zone giggles but its worth it just for peace sake. Friday night in Protector's Spamclave was usually quite a giggle.
Sadly this is quite true.
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Next time you have any questions try to search the forum and if you can't find a matching thread then ask , most of the people on the forum generally tend to be very helpful.
There is a groups that does this in STO - always in instance #1 in the bottom floor of the Earth Spacedock, I know role play happens always in Instance #1 in Quark's Bar at DS9. It's pretty easy to get into those instances in STO, but I haven;t tested doing something like this in neverwinter.
Having such thing in the tavern should eliminate all the zone chatter so it's pseudo-private (this would also need to be tested).
To the OP: There are a lot of us who want to help newcomers to the game. It's the hooking-up that's difficult, not to mention just getting the word out.
I'll continue to let the idea percolate for a while, I s'pose.
Wrong.
I've played many MMos and people in other games talk a hell of a lot more than this game. I've played with most countries as well over the past 15 years and this Is the only game where the community is filled with horrid people.
WoW was the only game that I ever came across with "barrens chat" and people scoffing at you but even then with 11 million people you did not run into asshats as much as you do in this game.
all "FREE TO PLAY" game are the same on 1 thing community every 10-15 year kid can download it and play acting stupid and trash talking for no reason or just random trolling .. dont expect a grown man to do this ... just ignore the ppl that trash talk they are prob 10 -15 year old or in some cases they hit 18 and they start to live in a different reality teenage and hitting 18 is a **** thing for this kids this days
That is a hilarious statement and makes me wonder what you've played. I don't find this community 'horrid' at all. Ignore the jerks and move on. As for not talking/typing during a dungeon, I didn't join to have a cup of tea and chat about my day with random people.
maybe they should have a dedicated official help chat
also beginners would need to know how to change to the different chats
also changing chats is not very efficient
possibly some rules of conduct in zone chats
and some player moderators
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I have the Legit channel active and on some days its been a little off the wall, but for the most part its full of like minded players who just wanna run dungeons and have a fun time playing.
People also tend to be not as polite or courteous when in an environment of unaccountability and relative anonymity.
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But, I'm not new in MMOs and statements like "it's like that in every MMOs" and "what do you want them (cryptic) to do" or "you should find a guild" are not true, sorry.
First I can't find a guild, I'm playing one week 20h the other 2h , that's not reliable enough.
Second, STo (this one is a F2P too), TSW, Eve all have a 1 server tech and got a nice community, people are at least saying "HI" in dungeon, even if they're spanish or french (or even Russian for Age Of Conan)
Ofc there's the usual *character* on the global chat who will bash you for no reason but it's a few guys, not an army !
Like it was said, cryptic could :
-moderate more
-create an official "Help" channel
-actually do something when you report a player for inappropriate behavior (like being insulted in normal low level dungeons because you don't know the strat - you can't defend that, and it really discourages new players)
-Make subliminal messages in loading screens saying "Never forget you were a beginner once" or stuff like that.
And players could/must do something too, I always said in MMOs "you create the community where you want to play", deactivating the zone chat is NOT a solution. Starting to put bad ppl in their place in the chat when they're picking on the new guy, if you're many to do that IS effective.
You don't build a good community in 2 days by doing nothing.
Some Swtor servers got a very very nice community, Age of Conan, TSW, STo, Eve Online, PoE, FFXIV, Lotro and other games got a cool one too. (it depends of you server ofc but my point is, it's possible).
I don't want a fairy tale world, just a nice one.
That said, Winter Festival zone chat was an incredibly toxic example. WTB 1 GM to allocate 15 minutes of his/her shift each day to log in at a random time to publicly issue reprimands and bans for speech that crosses the line ten times over.
While it's not feasible to expect full-time policing of player chat, people might consider keeping their discriminatory and other highly inflammatory comments to themselves if they knew for a fact that there could be repercussions. It's really sick what people get away with here.
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I'd love to see a grassroots effort to help with this. If you see someone in need of help, please think about lending a hand, and encourage niceness! If someone's been nice to you, please consider paying it forward, and answering a question!
The more we can all promote respect and friendliness in-game and on the forums, the more positive and welcoming behavior will become the norm.
Cheers!
What gets me is when we see other languages then English spoken and you get some "tard" complain about it in Zone chat. I mean, come on? This is a game for all. I love seeing other languages being spoken/typed, it really shows to me how "worldly" this game is.
Same here. Heck, back in open beta I had fun questing in the Tower District with a guy (my DC pre-aggro-fix, his companionless GF, we mutually needed help) that, it turned out, had no idea what I was saying nor did I have any idea what he was saying, but we just rolled with it and had fun anyway. You don't need to understand each other's languages in this game, just have to understand each other's humanity. That's part of the fun.
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That's a very different complaint from those who see a language that isn't English used in zone chat and immediately launch into a tirade about it. Which happens. Regularly.
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I learned long ago to turn off zone chat or ignore it in all mmo's so I'm not surprised. My one complaint about the language settings at the moment is that when running a skirmish if the party lead is using a non-english client I get the cuts scenes in their language rather than english.
See, my experience has been the opposite of this. Most other Games I have tried over the years, From Ultima Online to present, have had absolutely DESPICABLE communities. The general rule of thumb seems to be that "Hey! if I slather human waste all over the Chat Screen, then no-body will want to come near me, everyone else will quit, and then I WIN THE WHOLE GAME!! YAY ME!!!!"
The only exceptions have been games catering to older audiences such as Champions Online and The Secret World. Sad to say, the level of pure Evil in Neverwinter is well below the levels of, say, Diablo III or Terra.
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Someone mentioned joining a guild. This is a very good way to make "friends" and talk to people. When you are in a dungeon, talking is not the main purpose of the dungeon. It's to survive.. Unless it has to do with the dungeon, you should be too busy to talk. There are some of us who get around that by using voice instead of typing.
I have been on this game since it was in Beta and have met some very nice people. Give it time and you will meet people. Join a Guild like Assaulters. They have a really great bunch of people, you are not required to participate in events, and they have fun in the game. Plus, someone in the guild can answer just about any question you may have regarding the game, a zone in the game, or general information.
Good luck and fight on.
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Again, to each their own, but if you want a viable and strong Community, you must PARTICIPATE in it, if you simply ignore or remove that Zone chat, then you are NOT in the loop, nor are you in the care to keep this game alive and founded for future players. Call me an a** if you want, but a Community of people is only viable if people from all walks of life, all races, all genders, all income brackets, all languages, races, all levels of expertise, sexual orientation, religious beliefs etc...are able to help each other.
You may say" well it's not my job to help others" then so be it, when the game looses it's vigour for you? You may not to look far to see who to blame. I guess that this is my left wing social agenda justice speaking, but come on peeps, you are either a participater of a great community or an ogre who thinks of "me myself and I" and doesn't care about the consequences....
Someone needed help in Celadaine Tower last evening and was totally clueless on what to do. I asked a simple question about how new they were and told them no problem, let me show you the ropes.........at the end of the instance, I had given this new player a couple of Idols, new pants, new shirts and some Gold to help them along the way. What do you know, this same player messages me and said that he/she was able to get 4 of their friends today to join the game..........