. . . . . The only thing I did not like is the Bind on Pickup of the weapons and mount. These should either have been account unlocks (Claimable in the Rewards Agent), Bind to Account (allowing mailing to alts), or Bind on Equip. The influx of BoP items in the game has severely made the grind feeling of the game horrible to me. I do not like this marketing tactic one bit. Please, for the love of Mystra, deter from this BoP Mentality in the future. Thanks!
Events Suggestion:
Make all Cosmetic Rewards Account Unlocks, claimable & reclaimable in the Rewards Agent.
Make all Mount Rewards Account Unlocks, claimable & reclaimable in the Rewards Agent.
Make all Companion Rewards Account Unlocks, claimable & reclaimable in the Rewards Agent.
Apply a retroactive script to unlock past claimed rewards to coincide with the above.
Yes, this really should happen. I am completely okay with major pieces of gear being bound from regular content, but when you give people a 1% chance on a drop and half the players never get it while the other half get multiple that are bound... Really frustrating.
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- JailBreak (in development)
. . . . . The only thing I did not like is the Bind on Pickup of the weapons and mount. These should either have been account unlocks (Claimable in the Rewards Agent), Bind to Account (allowing mailing to alts), or Bind on Equip. The influx of BoP items in the game has severely made the grind feeling of the game horrible to me. I do not like this marketing tactic one bit. Please, for the love of Mystra, deter from this BoP Mentality in the future. Thanks!
Events Suggestion:
Make all Cosmetic Rewards Account Unlocks, claimable & reclaimable in the Rewards Agent.
Make all Mount Rewards Account Unlocks, claimable & reclaimable in the Rewards Agent.
Make all Companion Rewards Account Unlocks, claimable & reclaimable in the Rewards Agent.
Apply a retroactive script to unlock past claimed rewards to coincide with the above.
+1 to this , the developers seem to have been taking more and more away from us with stuff like making most epic instance drops BoP and making reinforced gauntlets BoP and now the possibility that they are even removing the only way for us to get free coalescent wards in game, these kind of event drops being BoE or at least account wide unlocks would be most welcome , and before the usual suspects start trolling about 'earning the rewards' I have no issue with getting the drops myself but after the recent CtA nonsense where it took me 98 runs to get my Shadow Wolf on just one character there's no way I'm willing to go through that on multiple characters ,plus I really wanted the wolf for my new Ranger when it comes out lol.
And done about 100 runs through multiple charactes. hadnt gotten 1 wolf. About 6 bound weapons.
This is really ridiculous. If the rates of these are this low, they should not be bind on pickup.
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kaiserschmarrnMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 390
edited November 2013
There is something broken - please devs explain how the drops work.
Yesterday I quit in disgust after 50 runs (I know some people have 100+ runs, but I can't stomach doing the same thing that often, 50 was my breaking point) today I get home from uni and decide to do one last run. And now I got a wolf....this can't be a coincidence.
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twstdechoMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 630Bounty Hunter
There is something broken - please devs explain how the drops work.
Yesterday I quit in disgust after 50 runs (I know some people have 100+ runs, but I can't stomach doing the same thing that often, 50 was my breaking point) today I get home from uni and decide to do one last run. And now I got a wolf....this can't be a coincidence.
. . . . . The only thing I did not like is the Bind on Pickup of the weapons and mount. These should either have been account unlocks (Claimable in the Rewards Agent), Bind to Account (allowing mailing to alts), or Bind on Equip. The influx of BoP items in the game has severely made the grind feeling of the game horrible to me. I do not like this marketing tactic one bit. Please, for the love of Mystra, deter from this BoP Mentality in the future. Thanks!
Events Suggestion:
Make all Cosmetic Rewards Account Unlocks, claimable & reclaimable in the Rewards Agent.
Make all Mount Rewards Account Unlocks, claimable & reclaimable in the Rewards Agent.
Make all Companion Rewards Account Unlocks, claimable & reclaimable in the Rewards Agent.
Apply a retroactive script to unlock past claimed rewards to coincide with the above.
Yes, please do this.
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darkstarcrashMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,382Arc User
edited November 2013
I had a lot of fun with this event. I played it very casually, only during Skirmish hour - so I knew I would at least get the extra RAD for each run - and only on my two 60s and my Tiefling CW, who was the only character I wanted the shadow wolf mount on.
I netted about 30k RAD, since with the instant queues I would get 4 or 5 runs per skirmish hour, and I'm guesstimating that I ran it over 6 hours. Each of my three got the weapon transmute - and gj devs to make sure you got the transmute for your character - and on the last run of the last Skirmish hour before event ended, my CW got the wolf mount.
She will use the mount, and my half-orc GWF is very happy with the Maul weapon skin, and I piled up enough cruel enchants for my DC to slot a few. So over all, a productive event without a lot of grinding for me.
The skirmish itself was fun, with random group comps every time: my DC often ran with a second DC, while I had one run on the CW with 4 CWs and a DC which was AoE madness. My GWF made a point of protecting any DC in the group, and I'd like to think they noticed.
I am getting so frustrated by not getting this mount on my CW. I started at the mark of 8 hours and 45 minutes left, doing it a few times last night on the character to try to get it. There is an hour and 11 minutes left and I do feel that all of the time that I spent here not leveling this alt and trying to get this mount will be COMPLETELY WASTED.
I AM SO BORED HERE AS IT IS! I want this mount so bad....... I think this character will become my main but this Bind on Pickup, I mean honestly....why can't I just buy it off the Auction House........
Do you know how honestly boring these CTAs are? It's an infinite yawnfest of madness...wow I just wish this stuff didn't exist in the first place so I would not have to waste my time...
I basically do the CTAs for ADs, when event is on, and for the dyes.
As for mounts and companions, i don't care. Reason being, since the first event/CTA or whatever had ben available to get a companion/mount, i have never been lucky to get one. Also, I already have a Rank 3 Zen bought mount so no reason to have another.
But i do feel for you who do find get them and agree they should not be BoP.
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mctankypantsMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited November 2013
I put this in another thread, but I honestly feel like the TR skins should have 2 uses to them.
Having to farm the skin twice is just absurd(Yes I know I don't "have" to).
If the weapon skins are going to be BoP, then at least make them fuse-able. So that, for instance, if I get 4 of them, I can fuse them into a "greater" skin that can actually enhance my weapon damage...
1. Slightly laggy (as usual)
2. Pretty straight forward and easy
3. Love, Love, Love the new dye color!
4. Got an orb skin for my CW... Love the design!
Will be doing nothing except CTA till it ends
Good job Devs!
And that sums up exactly why foundry quests need better rewards. I'm not sure what you mean by good job devs, maybe it is a joke based on irony somehow lost in text. but just in case:
Would this not highlight that actually really bad job devs? You need to grind the same laggy content to get what you want, meanwhile some really good foundry content is sitting in a small dark corner unloved and unfound. sigh!
So I got the mount on both my mains, one after 12 runs, the other after about 18. With 15 minutes left of CTA, I leveled my new TR from 1 to level 6. Joined a CTA with about 2 minutes left, and got a mount. Epic. That alone makes this event awesome. Just need another 14 levels now, lol.
So I have 38 dyepacks on this character and I have been running this stupid thing for 8 hours and 45 minutes for absolutely no reward that I care about. The only thing that I value is that mount considering transmutes, I can find better in the game as normal.
These events are supposed to be fun, not a complete waste of my time and a disappointment to all involved.
Due to time restrictions (that I normally play under) I was only able to get about 15 runs in and did not get the mount. Really disappointed as I loved the look of it. Please do not use RNG in the future. I had the same time restrictions in the previous event and was able to get the skeleton companion just fine as it was something I could work towards. Getting unlucky just plan sucks and a little piece of me died every time I opened the chest and got yet another thing of dye.
Is what sucks is the drop rate for the mount was Low that you were LUCKY if you got the mount... you have some that farm for days to get the thing and nothing and others that get like 4 or 5 in a day. Just really sucks.I was one who tried for days on end and got about 50 or 60 dyes (my ranger will covered for this color set lol) so yea a little annoyed
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midnightsighMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 16Arc User
edited November 2013
I like to collect stuff, and after 45 really long runs for my GWF, I picked up not one mount... whats worse is its BoP... Fail... as a collecter, I can never get this mount now... really hope the BoP everything HAMSTER stuff ends soon...
I put this in another thread, but I honestly feel like the TR skins should have 2 uses to them.
Having to farm the skin twice is just absurd(Yes I know I don't "have" to).
Never thought about that for TRs. Heh Double the fun!
PS yah ran more. Never saw mount. Never saw anyone after each skirm go, "YAAAY mount".
I did manage 1 skin and maybe 4 rank 4 cruel. So combined with players I played with I saw 150 runs with no mount.
i was finally able to get one shadow wolf mount on my main before the end of the event. i'm not sure what the success/fail rate was but those darn shadow wolves must be pretty darn elusive. i would have liked to have acquired more, but alas... it was not in the RNG cards for me.
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mctankypantsMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited November 2013
I'd like to compare this event to trying to win something out of those crane operated vending machines with all the goodies at the bottom.
You really want that stuffed Mario plush but have already dropped $2 bucks into the machine. $10 later it's holding on by the tag, you can see victory at hand...and then it drops.
At least with the summer event you could calculate how much time you needed to put into the event for all the characters you wanted to. This event was frustrating. 5 runs with a level 6 TR got me a mount. 12 runs with my 60 TR got me a mount. 84 runs with my main GF got me no skins and no mount.
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midnightsighMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 16Arc User
. . . . . The only thing I did not like is the Bind on Pickup of the weapons and mount. These should either have been account unlocks (Claimable in the Rewards Agent), Bind to Account (allowing mailing to alts), or Bind on Equip. The influx of BoP items in the game has severely made the grind feeling of the game horrible to me. I do not like this marketing tactic one bit. Please, for the love of Mystra, deter from this BoP Mentality in the future. Thanks!
Events Suggestion:
Make all Cosmetic Rewards Account Unlocks, claimable & reclaimable in the Rewards Agent.
Make all Mount Rewards Account Unlocks, claimable & reclaimable in the Rewards Agent.
Make all Companion Rewards Account Unlocks, claimable & reclaimable in the Rewards Agent.
Apply a retroactive script to unlock past claimed rewards to coincide with the above.
First off congrats to people who were lucky enough to win the mount. Its cool looking and I know many folks ground out many, many runs and I'm glad it paid out. I ran the event 36 times and didn't get the mount. That's life with RNG but iIts made me much more aware of the problems of rng and BOP. It becomes a zero sum equation. The problem is there is no progression in this model. You arent chipping away at a goal. You are just spinning the roulette wheel over and over and hoping your number hits. The payment being your time. i wonder about the game design of an event that causes these reflections and if there is awareness of how this leaves players? I didn't feel this leveling or in other events because I either purchased (or got lucky) on the items. Not so this time and I now look at the game design differently. And my suspicion is for most people that same reflection will come if it hasn't already. if I were a game designer (and I'm not) I would think its important to carefully think about what experience I want an event like this to contribute and design from there. It seems there are lots of options, progression system, boe, account unlock, higher drop rate, tokens etc that are going to lead to a far better experience over a larger group of people than BOP/RNG in its current form. At any rate, i'm not sour groups or anything (its just a game) but it has taken some bloom off the rose for me to want to play these events and I wonder if the developers consider this in their design. Maybe they are going after something else but if so I cant see it, Its not like i have interest after that grind to open my wallet. Does that make for a good event? Anyway, just my $.02, your mileage may of course vary.
The CTA/Skirmish was fun. But 90 runs can make anything boring. And that's what it took to get the mount on my CW. I wanted to get it on my GWF as well. But I gave up at 29 runs for him.
In my opinion you need to change it somehow.
Make it BOE. For those with less time. To trade with alts. Or if the RNG gods hate you.
-or-
Make the drop chance a lot higher.
-or-
Have a slightly increasing drop chance for every time you don't get the mount.
-or-
Use a token system. So that you can buy the mount if you haven't got it after 50 or so runs.
Remember folks, money talks. If your not happy with the event, and as its been said countless times many folks aren't happy. Hold your coins and voice your opinion. All the forum posts in the world wont make a difference if the green backs are flowing. If you want someone to listen, close your pockets for a few weeks and the ears will perk up.
. . . . . The only thing I did not like is the Bind on Pickup of the weapons and mount. These should either have been account unlocks (Claimable in the Rewards Agent), Bind to Account (allowing mailing to alts), or Bind on Equip. The influx of BoP items in the game has severely made the grind feeling of the game horrible to me. I do not like this marketing tactic one bit. Please, for the love of Mystra, deter from this BoP Mentality in the future. Thanks!
Events Suggestion:
Make all Cosmetic Rewards Account Unlocks, claimable & reclaimable in the Rewards Agent.
Make all Mount Rewards Account Unlocks, claimable & reclaimable in the Rewards Agent.
Make all Companion Rewards Account Unlocks, claimable & reclaimable in the Rewards Agent.
Apply a retroactive script to unlock past claimed rewards to coincide with the above.
. . . . . The only thing I did not like is the Bind on Pickup of the weapons and mount. These should either have been account unlocks (Claimable in the Rewards Agent), Bind to Account (allowing mailing to alts), or Bind on Equip. The influx of BoP items in the game has severely made the grind feeling of the game horrible to me. I do not like this marketing tactic one bit. Please, for the love of Mystra, deter from this BoP Mentality in the future. Thanks!
Events Suggestion:
Make all Cosmetic Rewards Account Unlocks, claimable & reclaimable in the Rewards Agent.
Make all Mount Rewards Account Unlocks, claimable & reclaimable in the Rewards Agent.
Make all Companion Rewards Account Unlocks, claimable & reclaimable in the Rewards Agent.
Apply a retroactive script to unlock past claimed rewards to coincide with the above.
30+ dyes on my account, 5+ on the wife's, and no wolf. Did get three hammers on one toon, no gear on any others. Got one level 5 cruel enchantment.
All in all, disappointed in the drops. As has been expressed more than once here, rare is a fun and interesting thing. Rare, capable of being looted only once, account bound and altogether for roleplay only? Not so cool.
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Comments
Yes, this really should happen. I am completely okay with major pieces of gear being bound from regular content, but when you give people a 1% chance on a drop and half the players never get it while the other half get multiple that are bound... Really frustrating.
- JailBreak (in development)
+1 to this , the developers seem to have been taking more and more away from us with stuff like making most epic instance drops BoP and making reinforced gauntlets BoP and now the possibility that they are even removing the only way for us to get free coalescent wards in game, these kind of event drops being BoE or at least account wide unlocks would be most welcome , and before the usual suspects start trolling about 'earning the rewards' I have no issue with getting the drops myself but after the recent CtA nonsense where it took me 98 runs to get my Shadow Wolf on just one character there's no way I'm willing to go through that on multiple characters ,plus I really wanted the wolf for my new Ranger when it comes out lol.
And done about 100 runs through multiple charactes. hadnt gotten 1 wolf. About 6 bound weapons.
This is really ridiculous. If the rates of these are this low, they should not be bind on pickup.
Yesterday I quit in disgust after 50 runs (I know some people have 100+ runs, but I can't stomach doing the same thing that often, 50 was my breaking point) today I get home from uni and decide to do one last run. And now I got a wolf....this can't be a coincidence.
Yes.
Yes it can.
Yes, please do this.
I netted about 30k RAD, since with the instant queues I would get 4 or 5 runs per skirmish hour, and I'm guesstimating that I ran it over 6 hours. Each of my three got the weapon transmute - and gj devs to make sure you got the transmute for your character - and on the last run of the last Skirmish hour before event ended, my CW got the wolf mount.
She will use the mount, and my half-orc GWF is very happy with the Maul weapon skin, and I piled up enough cruel enchants for my DC to slot a few. So over all, a productive event without a lot of grinding for me.
The skirmish itself was fun, with random group comps every time: my DC often ran with a second DC, while I had one run on the CW with 4 CWs and a DC which was AoE madness. My GWF made a point of protecting any DC in the group, and I'd like to think they noticed.
I AM SO BORED HERE AS IT IS! I want this mount so bad....... I think this character will become my main but this Bind on Pickup, I mean honestly....why can't I just buy it off the Auction House........
Do you know how honestly boring these CTAs are? It's an infinite yawnfest of madness...wow I just wish this stuff didn't exist in the first place so I would not have to waste my time...
Just please.
I basically do the CTAs for ADs, when event is on, and for the dyes.
As for mounts and companions, i don't care. Reason being, since the first event/CTA or whatever had ben available to get a companion/mount, i have never been lucky to get one. Also, I already have a Rank 3 Zen bought mount so no reason to have another.
But i do feel for you who do find get them and agree they should not be BoP.
Having to farm the skin twice is just absurd(Yes I know I don't "have" to).
And that sums up exactly why foundry quests need better rewards. I'm not sure what you mean by good job devs, maybe it is a joke based on irony somehow lost in text. but just in case:
Would this not highlight that actually really bad job devs? You need to grind the same laggy content to get what you want, meanwhile some really good foundry content is sitting in a small dark corner unloved and unfound. sigh!
These events are supposed to be fun, not a complete waste of my time and a disappointment to all involved.
This thread provides more details, updates, and room for reviews
Screenshots from my favorite part of A Bag of Holes
Never thought about that for TRs. Heh Double the fun!
PS yah ran more. Never saw mount. Never saw anyone after each skirm go, "YAAAY mount".
I did manage 1 skin and maybe 4 rank 4 cruel. So combined with players I played with I saw 150 runs with no mount.
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Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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You really want that stuffed Mario plush but have already dropped $2 bucks into the machine. $10 later it's holding on by the tag, you can see victory at hand...and then it drops.
At least with the summer event you could calculate how much time you needed to put into the event for all the characters you wanted to. This event was frustrating. 5 runs with a level 6 TR got me a mount. 12 runs with my 60 TR got me a mount. 84 runs with my main GF got me no skins and no mount.
THIS^^
Please!
This thread provides more details, updates, and room for reviews
Screenshots from my favorite part of A Bag of Holes
In my opinion you need to change it somehow.
Make it BOE. For those with less time. To trade with alts. Or if the RNG gods hate you.
-or-
Make the drop chance a lot higher.
-or-
Have a slightly increasing drop chance for every time you don't get the mount.
-or-
Use a token system. So that you can buy the mount if you haven't got it after 50 or so runs.
just my .02
Can't quote this often enough.
Great Ideas!
All in all, disappointed in the drops. As has been expressed more than once here, rare is a fun and interesting thing. Rare, capable of being looted only once, account bound and altogether for roleplay only? Not so cool.
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