Finally we have something from Cryptic saying exclusive, for the Heavy Giant Spider Mount. Which means any other mount with a different name is not the same as the Heavy Giant Spider Mount.
And I look at the spider mount as similar to the Drow. HotN got the Menzo Renegade months before everyone else, and now everyone has access to the Drow race, which is different then the Menzo Renegade.
I can understand you are butt hurt that you bought the founders title and you were mislead by your own reading comprehension, but alas never did they state that they wouldnt be selling the pack in a modified way. It is because of this loophole that the Neverwinter packs exist. But come on, did you really think they would sell a $200 pack for only a limited time or would they keep selling it to try and get the most out of it. PWE is a company, think like a compnay.
What do you mean by finally? That was taken off the company's website. That is still there to this day. If you like I can read previews of the game which echo what the poster above me has said. Now the rest of your comment is an insult which is against the TOS (Insulting) claiming I have buyers remorse. Even when the truth is in forth of you in black and white.
It's amazing, the amount of BS you pull out of thin air in an a failed attempt to justify the price. They did say throw down 200 bucks, and you would be entitled to an elusive mount. That is all that matters. It's not a loophole. It's straight and forth, misleading the customers. All the way from each month they promoted "Time is running out to order your pack" to pushing it back, weeks and months.
It wouldn't really be a big deal, if you'd stop trying to jusify. Let's for example say I buy a med size pink spider. They come out with a slower, red spider. Same animal. Everything is exactly the same expect for the size and color. Yet that's a "Loophole" it's false advertisement. This really isn't about the spider mount in itself. This is about the Hero of North being mislead to thinking the items.
They throw down 200 bucks for, wouldn't be able to access by any other means. That includes knock offs, of the very same animals expect different size and shape. It's complete misleading by the people in charge. That's why it's a big deal.
What do you mean by finally? That was taken off the company's website. That is still there to this day. If you like I can read previews of the game which echo what the poster above me has said. Now the rest of your comment is an insult which is against the TOS (Insulting) claiming I have buyers remorse. Even when the truth is in forth of you in black and white.
It's amazing, the amount of BS you pull out of thin air in an a failed attempt to justify the price. They did say throw down 200 bucks, and you would be entitled to an elusive mount. That is all that matters. It's not a loophole. It's straight and forth, misleading the customers. All the way from each month they promoted "Time is running out to order your pack" to pushing it back, weeks and months.
It wouldn't really be a big deal, if you'd stop trying to jusify. Let's for example say I buy a med size pink spider. They come out with a slower, red spider. Same animal. Everything is exactly the same expect for the size and color. Yet that's a "Loophole" it's false advertisement. This really isn't about the spider mount in itself. This is about the Hero of North being mislead to thinking the items.
They throw down 200 bucks for, wouldn't be able to access by any other means. That includes knock offs, of the very same animals expect different size and shape. It's complete misleading by the people in charge. That's why it's a big deal.
So it is about elitism exclusivity. I though as much. Just needed to figure out how to get you to admit it.
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fusedmassMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 252Bounty Hunter
LOL. i can post many many links to reviews and most will say their review was compilled using information provided by PWE themsleves
You can argue and argue , but the original advertising of the Founders packs was total and utter BS, the words UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE should never have been used and were totaly missleading. The advertisement clearly stated you would have a rare epic mount and a rare epic companion, that were UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE and if you did not buy before launch you would miss out and not have these items
i could go further, there are also many early reviews out there which also say their information for the review was provided by Cryptic Studios and some of these mention the option to unbind companions which would be added to the game at a later date.
But now PWE state they have NEVER had any intentions at all to introduce the option, BUT the option buton was there on the companion screen, even showing a cost in AD, WHY ? If acording to PWE it was something they had thought about in very very early testing, but decided to not and never to use it, BUT all through Open Beta and long into 'live' the option buton was still there.
Before I even give an inch to the poster, to reply. I'd like him to reply to this poster comment in detail. It's only fair. Once you replied to this, and stopped cherry picking the comments you'd like to reply to and get some real answers out of you. I'd be more then happy to respond.
What do you mean by finally? That was taken off the company's website. That is still there to this day. If you like I can read previews of the game which echo what the poster above me has said. Now the rest of your comment is an insult which is against the TOS (Insulting) claiming I have buyers remorse. Even when the truth is in forth of you in black and white.
It's amazing, the amount of BS you pull out of thin air in an a failed attempt to justify the price. They did say throw down 200 bucks, and you would be entitled to an elusive mount. That is all that matters. It's not a loophole. It's straight and forth, misleading the customers. All the way from each month they promoted "Time is running out to order your pack" to pushing it back, weeks and months.
It wouldn't really be a big deal, if you'd stop trying to jusify. Let's for example say I buy a med size pink spider. They come out with a slower, red spider. Same animal. Everything is exactly the same expect for the size and color. Yet that's a "Loophole" it's false advertisement. This really isn't about the spider mount in itself. This is about the Hero of North being mislead to thinking the items.
They throw down 200 bucks for, wouldn't be able to access by any other means. That includes knock offs, of the very same animals expect different size and shape. It's complete misleading by the people in charge. That's why it's a big deal.
THANK YOU, that as been my point all along the sheer amount of 'twisting' the truth and totaly missleading info in advertising.
Same as there huge claim to have 2 million UNIQUE players, that was as we all know BS, for a start how can they say which accounts are owned by UNIQUE players , ................ none, ,, they can not, so the whole statemnet was false.......... Even subscribed games can not claim to have x amount of UNIQUE players.
All that can be 100% claimed and be correct and TRUE is a amount of UNIQUE accounts, which is what should have been claimed
Perhaps someone can tell me, because I really cant tell......
Anyone have any idea who is winning?
Cryptic and PWE of course. Who else?
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fusedmassMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 252Bounty Hunter
edited August 2013
Exclusive access to ‘Menzoberranzan Renegade’, a Drow playable race like the legendary ranger Drizzt Do’Urden, complete with unique racial abilities and tattoo
• Unique ‘Armored Spider’ mount
• Unique ‘Panther Companion’
There you have it both unique and exclusive words to describe the items the pack contains complete with links. I can easily find more previews that echo those words directly from other sites and this site.
Before I even give an inch to the poster, to reply. I'd like him to reply to this poster comment in detail. It's only fair. Once you replied to this, and stopped cherry picking the comments you'd like to reply to and get some real answers out of you. I'd be more then happy to respond.
i can post links from reviews which include actual quotes From PWE saying one thing about things they would be doing in the future or things that are being worked on, which now they totaly deny. and i have posted them before in these forums and not suprisingly they were removed, and not to lower depths, they were removed completely.
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twstdechoMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 630Bounty Hunter
edited August 2013
Is there another Heavy Giant Spider Mount available in game? The new mount, if I recall, is an Armored Spider Mount, thus differentiating itself from the "unique" HGSM available in the HOTN pack in title,detail (size and skin) and function (being a lower level mount).
You can't blame them that you took that to mean it was the one and only way to ever get a spider mount in the game, which seems to be the only thing that would have made you happy by the context of your messages.
Exclusive access to ‘Menzoberranzan Renegade’, a Drow playable race like the legendary ranger Drizzt Do’Urden, complete with unique racial abilities and tattoo
• Unique ‘Armored Spider’ mount
• Unique ‘Panther Companion’
There you have it both unique and exclusive words to describe the items the pack contains complete with links. I can easily find more previews that echo those words directly from other sites and this site.
What you have linked is the reworded and advertisement for the Hero of the North pack, NOT the Original Advertisement for the pre 'live' exclusive. pre launch Founders pack
I am sorry but your wasting your time now, everything as been heavely reworked and re worded since 'live' launch
Exclusive access to ‘Menzoberranzan Renegade’, a Drow playable race like the legendary ranger Drizzt Do’Urden, complete with unique racial abilities and tattoo
• Unique ‘Armored Spider’ mount
• Unique ‘Panther Companion’
There you have it both unique and exclusive words to describe the items the pack contains complete with links. I can easily find more previews that echo those words directly from other sites and this site.
Yes you do have a Unique mount that isnt available anywhere else in the game, which in turn makes it exclusive to only those that have purchased the HotN pack.
sorry but it actualy says :"Exclusive access to" and "Unique ‘Armored Spider’ mount" which are the contents of the hero of the North pack and were also the very same statements used in the Founders pack. plus the founders pack did strongly suggest that these would be unavailable after launch. Which as been my point all along how they missleaded many many people into believing this pack AND contents would no longer be available after launch, which we know now is not true. you will not find the Founders pack advertisement no more as it was the same 'Founders' pack advert that was just heavely reworked and renamed for the Hero of the North advertisement.
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fusedmassMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 252Bounty Hunter
What you have linked is the reworded and advertisement for the Hero of the North pack, NOT the Original Advertisement for the pre 'live' exclusive. pre launch Founders pack
I am sorry but your wasting your time now, everything as been heavely reworked and re worded since 'live' launch
It's impossible almost, unless we knew this was coming. To take screen shots of the countdown from neverwinter packs to live launch. Almost everyone trusted the company would cease the promotion as soon as it was launched. It obviously was re-worded to make it appear that the promotion would continue.
I myself feel victim to the scam, thinking I had a single day left. I remember seeing the time and quickly buying it before time ran out. Obviously the scam was as clear as day, the rest of people making those annoying remarks. Simply do not understand this is not a Hero of North thing, it's about a company being honest and sincere.
When it comes right down to that point, they've been misleading very much so. Now we have this new mini spider mount coming out. Seriously, out of all the mounts and companions they make monthly, they couldn't have picked a different mount.
When it comes right down to that point, they've been misleading very much so. Now we have this new mini spider mount coming out. Seriously, out of all the mounts and companions they make monthly, they couldn't have picked a different mount.
Exactly, my sore point is there liberal use of the words UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE with the sole purpose of missleading players to 'panic' buy items before they are 'gone'
I am pretty sure your main reason for buying the Founders pack was the very strong understanding that if you left it too late you would miss out completely on a chance to get the mount and companion. This as been my main point that the way it was advertised and hpyed it put players under the impression that they would be purchasing somthing totaly UNIQUE to that pack, the founders pack. and then to find out the day after 'live' launce the EXACT mount was in the hero of the north pack, not even recoloured EXACTLY the same
And your proof that they stated that many many many times? Because I am coming up empty handed in my searches.
Because the verbiage has been changed over time here on the forum. They said the armored spider mount, the menzo renegade drow, the black panther were all exclusive to HOTN. If you want to spend your time looking around I am sure a resourceful guy like you can find it. A good place to start would be scrolling through months of the Twitter feed. For me, I don't care enough to spend the time looking. I've been frequenting these forums since last year, and a member since January. I watch the Twitter feed frequently and occasionally check in on the Facebook page. I remember when the pack was released originally and what was said at the time. I have seen backpedaling by PW more than once on this, this is only the latest.
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amorraMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
sorry but it actualy says :"Exclusive access to" and "Unique ‘Armored Spider’ mount" which are the contents of the hero of the North pack and were also the very same statements used in the Founders pack. plus the founders pack did strongly suggest that these would be unavailable after launch. Which as been my point all along how they missleaded many many people into believing this pack AND contents would no longer be available after launch, which we know now is not true. you will not find the Founders pack advertisement no more as it was the same 'Founders' pack advert that was just heavely reworked and renamed for the Hero of the North advertisement.
Yes, unique means that combination of quality and colors will not be made available to people who do not get the pack. They did not claim the mesh would be exclusive to the HotN pack.
The devil is in the technicality.
I knew when I bought the HotN pack that there would be recolors of the mount placed into the game. But unless they put that exact spider into the open market I am a happy camper.
Yes, unique means that combination of quality and colors will not be made available to people who do not get the pack. They did not claim the mesh would be exclusive to the HotN pack.
The devil is in the technicality.
I knew when I bought the HotN pack that there would be recolors of the mount placed into the game. But unless they put that exact spider into the open market I am a happy camper.
Sorry but yet again some one is quoting from the Hero of the North pack, This spider mount and companion contained in the Hero of the North pack was advertised and hyped up to be UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE to the FOUNDERS pack, and was a special pack put together containing UNIQUE items for players to purchase PRE LAUNCH, it was strongly advertised that these contents would not be available after 'live' launch, it was clearly stated 'get yours now, get your exclusive mount etc' as after 'live launch' these would NOT be available any more and " get your spider mount before its too late" as people have already said they even hyped up a countdown for the pack, to push more into buying it.
Then after launch it was still all available but in a new pack called Hero of the North, it would not have been so bad if they had at least re coloured the mount or changed somthing, but the mount was EXACTLY the same mount and so was the companion
Sorry but yet again some one is quoting from the Hero of the North pack, This spider and mount contained in the Hero of the North pack was advertised and hyped up to be UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE to the FOUNDERS pack, and was a special pack put together containing UNIQUE items for players to purchase PRE LAUNCH, it was strongly advertised that these contents would not be available after 'live launch, it was clearly stated 'get yours now, get your exclusive mount etc' as after 'live launch these would NOT be available any more, as people have already said they even hyped up a countdown for the pack, to push more into buying it.
Then after launch it was still all available but in a new pack called Hero of the North, it would not have been so bad if they had at least re coloured the mount or changed somthing, but the mount was EXACTLY the same mount and so was the companion
The thing I have come to realize is your issue isnt with the Spider mount at all, which is the topic of this thread, but instead that the Neverwinter pack exists when you were misinformed into thinking the Founders packs wouldnt change after launch.
Your entire argument is off topic of this thread.
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bioshrikeMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,729Arc User
edited August 2013
To argue that the "mesh" of the spider as a mount should be exclusive to HotN owners is silly... After all, even the renegade Drow are just a modification of the human mesh, (with different skins, color, etc). How is reusing the spider 3D model, but in a different size and color, an issue here?
Heck, even the unicorn mount is just a modification of the standard horse model...
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The thing I have come to realize is your issue isnt with the Spider mount at all, which is the topic of this thread, but instead that the Neverwinter pack exists when you were misinformed into thinking the Founders packs wouldnt change after launch.
Your entire argument is off topic of this thread.
"misinformed into thinking the Founders packs wouldnt change after launch"
Misinformed ??? Changed ?? no its the fact they clearly stated it would NOT be available after launch. it was clearly advertised as being a one off pack and contents for players who purchased it prior to the game going 'lve'.
"misinformed into thinking the Founders packs wouldnt change after launch"
Misinformed ??? Changed ?? no its the fact they clearly stated it would NOT be available after launch. it was clearly advertised as being a one off pack and contents for players who purchased it prior to the game going 'lve'.
And the Founders pack isnt available, yes it is semantics, but the founders title isnt included which is the title of the Founders pack. The Neverwinter pack HotN is available for purchase though. And still your argument isnt about the spider mount but about the packs and you thinking something was implied when they werent. You give me proof that they said the HotN pack wouldnt be available after going live and I will buy you one.
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amorraMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Sorry but yet again some one is quoting from the Hero of the North pack, This spider mount and companion contained in the Hero of the North pack was advertised and hyped up to be UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE to the FOUNDERS pack, and was a special pack put together containing UNIQUE items for players to purchase PRE LAUNCH, it was strongly advertised that these contents would not be available after 'live' launch, it was clearly stated 'get yours now, get your exclusive mount etc' as after 'live launch' these would NOT be available any more and " get your spider mount before its too late" as people have already said they even hyped up a countdown for the pack, to push more into buying it.
Then after launch it was still all available but in a new pack called Hero of the North, it would not have been so bad if they had at least re coloured the mount or changed somthing, but the mount was EXACTLY the same mount and so was the companion
You still have to pay 200$ for i, and people who buy the pack now actually get a few less items than people who bought the pack before launch. (I know because my husband bought it after launch when he found out he would have to wait two months after the game left open beta to roll a drow.)
They DID have a disclaimer at the bottom of the page that said the packs were subject to change prior to going live. This includes deciding to keep the basic pack of goodies intact after launch. A lot of people I know did not buy the pack because they wanted to be 'exclusive' but because they wanted the items included in the pack. If anyone bought it because they thought it was going to be 'limited time and gone forever' I would call them an impulse buyer and dismiss their arguments as buyers remorse.
Advertising media is my job, and as it happens also the gaming world as part of a national gaming magazine publisher.
LOL i would realy like to post a review done recently by one of the top British gaming reviewers we use, but i know it would be no doubt edited or removed, and the feed back we got from it was even better.
I know adverising is all about making things some times look more sparkly than what they are, but there are strict guidlines and any claims of truth have to be backed up, even if it is a slight 'twist' of the truth
But PWE take this to a whole new level, if they was based in the UK they would have had many consumer lawsuits against them already just for the missleading information in there advertisments alone.
Mosy have already posted they have seen many many falsly advertised items and deliberate missleading information on items. packs etc.
So you just carry on argueing that black is white and go get another cookie from PWE.
You give me proof that they said the HotN pack wouldnt be available after going live and I will buy you one.
LOL what is your problem ???? i never said anything about the HotN pack being NOT available after launch, I said FOUNDERS PACK, and its contents.
LOl the HotN was not even available pre launch, so how could i say it would not continue after launch,
And yes my arguement was about the spider mount , that was claimed to be UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE to the FOUNDERS pack, and this pack and its contents would NOT be available after 'live' launch. which is false, the very same mount and same companion which were previously stated as being exclusive and Unique to the founders pack were now , after launch, available in the Hero of the north pack, SO there original claim that the spider mount and the panther companion were UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE to the founders pack was FALSE..
If you can not understand that i will get my grandson to write it out for you in nice big colourfull letters..
That is actually incorrect. It was always called the Hero of the North package and they did say it was limited time only and even had a count down meter at one point (which kept changing before going away completely). The name was changed to the Neverwinter Pack and they removed the Founder's Title which was totally contrary to the original promise that these would be exclusive items for Founders.
LOL what is your problem ???? i never said anything about the HotN pack being NOT available after launch, I said FOUNDERS PACK, and its contents.
LOl the HotN was not even available pre launch, so how could i say it would not continue after launch,
And yes my arguement was about the spider mount , that was claimed to be UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE to the FOUNDERS pack, and this pack and its contents would NOT be available after 'live' launch. which is false, the very same mount and same companion which were previously stated as being exclusive and Unique to the founders pack were now , after launch, available in the Hero of the north pack, SO there original claim that the spider mount and the panther companion were UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE to the founders pack was FALSE..
If you can not understand that i will get my grandson to write it out for you in nice big colourfull letters..
The founders pack was called the Founder Hero of the North. The HotN pack was available pre launch. The Spider mount is still exclusive to the HotN pack, and no never did they say the contents wouldnt be available after launch. I love how you have a "grandson" but you fail to grasp the easiest of concepts.
The founders pack was called the Founder Hero of the North. The HotN pack was available pre launch. The Spider mount is still exclusive to the HotN pack, and no never did they say the contents wouldnt be available after launch. I love how you have a "grandson" but you fail to grasp the easiest of concepts.
Incorrect. They did say that they would be exclusive to HotN Founders and they also said the packs would not be available after launch.
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What do you mean by finally? That was taken off the company's website. That is still there to this day. If you like I can read previews of the game which echo what the poster above me has said. Now the rest of your comment is an insult which is against the TOS (Insulting) claiming I have buyers remorse. Even when the truth is in forth of you in black and white.
It's amazing, the amount of BS you pull out of thin air in an a failed attempt to justify the price. They did say throw down 200 bucks, and you would be entitled to an elusive mount. That is all that matters. It's not a loophole. It's straight and forth, misleading the customers. All the way from each month they promoted "Time is running out to order your pack" to pushing it back, weeks and months.
It wouldn't really be a big deal, if you'd stop trying to jusify. Let's for example say I buy a med size pink spider. They come out with a slower, red spider. Same animal. Everything is exactly the same expect for the size and color. Yet that's a "Loophole" it's false advertisement. This really isn't about the spider mount in itself. This is about the Hero of North being mislead to thinking the items.
They throw down 200 bucks for, wouldn't be able to access by any other means. That includes knock offs, of the very same animals expect different size and shape. It's complete misleading by the people in charge. That's why it's a big deal.
So it is about elitism exclusivity. I though as much. Just needed to figure out how to get you to admit it.
Before I even give an inch to the poster, to reply. I'd like him to reply to this poster comment in detail. It's only fair. Once you replied to this, and stopped cherry picking the comments you'd like to reply to and get some real answers out of you. I'd be more then happy to respond.
Anyone have any idea who is winning?
THANK YOU, that as been my point all along the sheer amount of 'twisting' the truth and totaly missleading info in advertising.
Same as there huge claim to have 2 million UNIQUE players, that was as we all know BS, for a start how can they say which accounts are owned by UNIQUE players , ................ none, ,, they can not, so the whole statemnet was false.......... Even subscribed games can not claim to have x amount of UNIQUE players.
All that can be 100% claimed and be correct and TRUE is a amount of UNIQUE accounts, which is what should have been claimed
I know Im not sadly
• Unique ‘Armored Spider’ mount
• Unique ‘Panther Companion’
http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/01/28/neverwinter-hero-of-the-north-founders-pack-asks-for-big-bucks-for-exclusive-beta-access-and-content/
Unlock exclusive access to the
HEAVY GIANT SPIDER MOUNT!
Terrorize your foes as you charge into battle atop this eight-legged beast.
http://nw.perfectworld.com/neverwinterpack/hero
There you have it both unique and exclusive words to describe the items the pack contains complete with links. I can easily find more previews that echo those words directly from other sites and this site.
i can post links from reviews which include actual quotes From PWE saying one thing about things they would be doing in the future or things that are being worked on, which now they totaly deny. and i have posted them before in these forums and not suprisingly they were removed, and not to lower depths, they were removed completely.
You can't blame them that you took that to mean it was the one and only way to ever get a spider mount in the game, which seems to be the only thing that would have made you happy by the context of your messages.
What you have linked is the reworded and advertisement for the Hero of the North pack, NOT the Original Advertisement for the pre 'live' exclusive. pre launch Founders pack
I am sorry but your wasting your time now, everything as been heavely reworked and re worded since 'live' launch
Yes you do have a Unique mount that isnt available anywhere else in the game, which in turn makes it exclusive to only those that have purchased the HotN pack.
sorry but it actualy says :"Exclusive access to" and "Unique ‘Armored Spider’ mount" which are the contents of the hero of the North pack and were also the very same statements used in the Founders pack. plus the founders pack did strongly suggest that these would be unavailable after launch. Which as been my point all along how they missleaded many many people into believing this pack AND contents would no longer be available after launch, which we know now is not true. you will not find the Founders pack advertisement no more as it was the same 'Founders' pack advert that was just heavely reworked and renamed for the Hero of the North advertisement.
It's impossible almost, unless we knew this was coming. To take screen shots of the countdown from neverwinter packs to live launch. Almost everyone trusted the company would cease the promotion as soon as it was launched. It obviously was re-worded to make it appear that the promotion would continue.
I myself feel victim to the scam, thinking I had a single day left. I remember seeing the time and quickly buying it before time ran out. Obviously the scam was as clear as day, the rest of people making those annoying remarks. Simply do not understand this is not a Hero of North thing, it's about a company being honest and sincere.
When it comes right down to that point, they've been misleading very much so. Now we have this new mini spider mount coming out. Seriously, out of all the mounts and companions they make monthly, they couldn't have picked a different mount.
Exactly, my sore point is there liberal use of the words UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE with the sole purpose of missleading players to 'panic' buy items before they are 'gone'
I am pretty sure your main reason for buying the Founders pack was the very strong understanding that if you left it too late you would miss out completely on a chance to get the mount and companion. This as been my main point that the way it was advertised and hpyed it put players under the impression that they would be purchasing somthing totaly UNIQUE to that pack, the founders pack. and then to find out the day after 'live' launce the EXACT mount was in the hero of the north pack, not even recoloured EXACTLY the same
Because the verbiage has been changed over time here on the forum. They said the armored spider mount, the menzo renegade drow, the black panther were all exclusive to HOTN. If you want to spend your time looking around I am sure a resourceful guy like you can find it. A good place to start would be scrolling through months of the Twitter feed. For me, I don't care enough to spend the time looking. I've been frequenting these forums since last year, and a member since January. I watch the Twitter feed frequently and occasionally check in on the Facebook page. I remember when the pack was released originally and what was said at the time. I have seen backpedaling by PW more than once on this, this is only the latest.
The devil is in the technicality.
I knew when I bought the HotN pack that there would be recolors of the mount placed into the game. But unless they put that exact spider into the open market I am a happy camper.
Sorry but yet again some one is quoting from the Hero of the North pack, This spider mount and companion contained in the Hero of the North pack was advertised and hyped up to be UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE to the FOUNDERS pack, and was a special pack put together containing UNIQUE items for players to purchase PRE LAUNCH, it was strongly advertised that these contents would not be available after 'live' launch, it was clearly stated 'get yours now, get your exclusive mount etc' as after 'live launch' these would NOT be available any more and " get your spider mount before its too late" as people have already said they even hyped up a countdown for the pack, to push more into buying it.
Then after launch it was still all available but in a new pack called Hero of the North, it would not have been so bad if they had at least re coloured the mount or changed somthing, but the mount was EXACTLY the same mount and so was the companion
The thing I have come to realize is your issue isnt with the Spider mount at all, which is the topic of this thread, but instead that the Neverwinter pack exists when you were misinformed into thinking the Founders packs wouldnt change after launch.
Your entire argument is off topic of this thread.
Heck, even the unicorn mount is just a modification of the standard horse model...
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"misinformed into thinking the Founders packs wouldnt change after launch"
Misinformed ??? Changed ?? no its the fact they clearly stated it would NOT be available after launch. it was clearly advertised as being a one off pack and contents for players who purchased it prior to the game going 'lve'.
And the Founders pack isnt available, yes it is semantics, but the founders title isnt included which is the title of the Founders pack. The Neverwinter pack HotN is available for purchase though. And still your argument isnt about the spider mount but about the packs and you thinking something was implied when they werent. You give me proof that they said the HotN pack wouldnt be available after going live and I will buy you one.
They DID have a disclaimer at the bottom of the page that said the packs were subject to change prior to going live. This includes deciding to keep the basic pack of goodies intact after launch. A lot of people I know did not buy the pack because they wanted to be 'exclusive' but because they wanted the items included in the pack. If anyone bought it because they thought it was going to be 'limited time and gone forever' I would call them an impulse buyer and dismiss their arguments as buyers remorse.
LOL i would realy like to post a review done recently by one of the top British gaming reviewers we use, but i know it would be no doubt edited or removed, and the feed back we got from it was even better.
I know adverising is all about making things some times look more sparkly than what they are, but there are strict guidlines and any claims of truth have to be backed up, even if it is a slight 'twist' of the truth
But PWE take this to a whole new level, if they was based in the UK they would have had many consumer lawsuits against them already just for the missleading information in there advertisments alone.
Mosy have already posted they have seen many many falsly advertised items and deliberate missleading information on items. packs etc.
So you just carry on argueing that black is white and go get another cookie from PWE.
LOL what is your problem ???? i never said anything about the HotN pack being NOT available after launch, I said FOUNDERS PACK, and its contents.
LOl the HotN was not even available pre launch, so how could i say it would not continue after launch,
And yes my arguement was about the spider mount , that was claimed to be UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE to the FOUNDERS pack, and this pack and its contents would NOT be available after 'live' launch. which is false, the very same mount and same companion which were previously stated as being exclusive and Unique to the founders pack were now , after launch, available in the Hero of the north pack, SO there original claim that the spider mount and the panther companion were UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE to the founders pack was FALSE..
If you can not understand that i will get my grandson to write it out for you in nice big colourfull letters..
The founders pack was called the Founder Hero of the North. The HotN pack was available pre launch. The Spider mount is still exclusive to the HotN pack, and no never did they say the contents wouldnt be available after launch. I love how you have a "grandson" but you fail to grasp the easiest of concepts.
Incorrect. They did say that they would be exclusive to HotN Founders and they also said the packs would not be available after launch.
Where? I have never seen this.