You argument is moot, your points are invalid and wrong. You were never told By Cryptic the mount in the Hotn pack was going to be the ONLY spider mount ever put in this game. As I stated before before, your petty argument that because you paid for a pack that offered a spider mount (in your mind) meant you would never have to see another spider mount in game is invalid. Remove yourself from that high horse you are riding around on, and realise this is how it works in Every MMO.
Good Day to you Sir,
I'll happily respond to you, when you can write a four sentence paragraph that details exactly how I am wrong, instead of saying "you're wrong, in your mind, and mistaken" I've already proven on solid information how they mislead the customer base during the Hero of North Promotion. (Which you completely ignored) and that's understandable because it doesn't support your case.
I never said. I would never see a spider again. (That's you putting words in my mouth) I understand with your very limited sentences its hard to drive any point across, at all. However truth in what I said. This upcoming mount was supposed be something nobody had, not one person.
In fact, I already have it. I'm not upset more people are getting it. That's exactly where you're mind drifts off. I'm upset that instead of creating a unique mount. It's exactly the same thing expect for being a mini spider. Let's review this again, because I know the truth is hard to think in your mind.
I'm upset that instead of a new unique, mount (we never before seen before) we're getting a replay of something a ton of already have. Of course when they said it would be unique as other posters pointed out, and you ignored. It's not unique any longer when you have mini pets running around.
Why couldn't they picked another animal. If the animal, we all are going be unlocking the lock boxes for the next several months, is a spider, rank 2. I'd like to opt out. It's supposed to be some mega rare mount, that we cannot get normally or through any promotion.
Fact they made the mount smaller, still an issue its a mount in itself. I have a spider, rank 3 mount. Whats purpose of me unlocking lock boxes then to obtain. Secondly, out of all of the animals. Why make the unique mount as a spider, rank 2.
It just seems a tad too close to Hero of North. I actually bought the promotion pack. I can switch from spider and other mount. I wish they would detail the difference, because if we're looking at models alone. Then there isn't much difference.
UMMM no. the Stag rank 3 comes from lockboxes... -.- You have to buy the spider mount not gamble for it
My problem with the OP's argument is that if you take it to its logical conclusion, there should be no other (armored) horse mounts in the game as well. Which is pretty flipping silly.
Wrong.. none of the armored horse mounts have ever been advertised as a 'unique' or 'exclusive' mount to a certain pack or promotion, were as the spider mount as, it was originaly stated as being 'unique' and 'exclusive' to the 'Founders' pack, pre live launch which was stated it would not be available after the live launch, but however all the contents was available after live launch the pack was exactly the same except the pack name was changed to 'Hero of the North' and obviously the 'founders title was removed, otherwise the pack was the same. even the spider mount was exactly the same, no change of colour, armor or size.
which leads to my point originaly that the original advertisement and hype by PWE that the 'Founders' pack and contents would be 'unique' and 'exclusive' to that pack and for people who purchased it pre live launch, which is a fact this is totaly untrue and was very missleading.
I am sorry but if you are told that somthing is 'Unique' and 'Exclusive' in a certain deal you would certainly not exspect to see the EXACT same item appear ( same colour, size etc) in another deal the day after the original deal ended, that is false advertising and deliberatly missleading the customer no matter how you want to look at it.
Wrong.. none of the armored horse mounts have ever been advertised as a 'unique' or 'exclusive' mount to a certain pack or promotion, were as the spider mount as, it was originaly stated as being 'unique' and 'exclusive' to the 'Founders' pack, pre live launch which was stated it would not be available after the live launch, but however all the contents was available after live launch the pack was exactly the same except the pack name was changed to 'Hero of the North' and obviously the 'founders title was removed, otherwise the pack was the same.
Im guessing you have links or some proof saying that the spider mount would be exclusive to the HotN pack, and that the pack wouldnt be available after launch?
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Wrong.. none of the armored horse mounts have ever been advertised as a 'unique' or 'exclusive' mount to a certain pack or promotion, were as the spider mount as, it was originaly stated as being 'unique' and 'exclusive' to the 'Founders' pack, pre live launch which was stated it would not be available after the live launch, but however all the contents was available after live launch the pack was exactly the same except the pack name was changed to 'Hero of the North' and obviously the 'founders title was removed, otherwise the pack was the same.
True Neverwinter Guardians will become the new defenders of the realm with help from
THE MEDIUM ADVENTURER'S HORSE MOUNT & DIREWOLF COMPANION
both unique to Guardian Packs!
This is just too easy to troll, so instead I will state once again. Never once did they state that the items in the packs would remain exclusive to only those that bought the pack.
Actually they did state that, many many many times. However, they also said that specific spider mount and even hinted that other spider mounts would be available later. So, butthurt over the spider=not keeping up on what was promised.
Actually they did state that, many many many times. However, they also said that specific spider mount and even hinted that other spider mounts would be available later. So, butthurt over the spider=not keeping up on what was promised.
And your proof that they stated that many many many times? Because I am coming up empty handed in my searches.
Im guessing you have links or some proof saying that the spider mount would be exclusive to the HotN pack, and that the pack wouldnt be available after launch?
Ermmm, Hero of the North pack was not available pre 'live' launch, Pre live launch it was called 'founders' pack as it was advertised as being 'unique' and 'Exclusive. and the spider was said to be 'Exlcusive' to that pack and only available if purchase pre 'live' launch.
However the pack , or name did in fact end at 'live' launch, and was now available as a pack called' Hero of the North' With all the EXACT same contents, same companion and same spider, Exactly the same, same colour, size, armour
Ermmm, Hero of the North pack was not available pre 'live' launch, Pre live launch it was called 'founders' pack as it was advertised as being 'unique' and 'Exclusive. and the spider was said to be 'Exlcusive' to that pack and only available if purchase pre 'live' launch.
However the pack , or name did in fact end at 'live' launch, and was now available as a pack called' Hero of the North' With all the EXACT same contents, same companion and same spider, Exactly the same, same colour, size, armour
And that spider WAS exclusive to that pack and is still exclusive to the HotN pack. What does this have to do with the new spider mount which is a different spider mount?
Im guessing you have links or some proof saying that the spider mount would be exclusive to the HotN pack, and that the pack wouldnt be available after launch?
Look, will you just... please stop arguing, you do know this is stupid, right? Just let him believe what he wants to believe and complain about what he wants to complain... it's just making you look silly to be wasting your time trying to get a person biased upon their particular mindset to see your point of view. e_e;
You are right, my apologies I was only offering my Opinion on this subject. I stand by a quote I have used in the past when dealing with people such as the Op on forums. "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience." ~Mark Twain
At this point I really have nothing else to offer to someone who's delusional in thought,
Best of luck to everyone else and best wishes to the Op in their crusade against w/e it is they feel they are crusading against.
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note how it states spider is 'UNIQUE' to founders pack
You do know how to read correct? It says "The more expensive Founder’s Packs include unique mounts and animal companions" Not that those items are unique to the pack.
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Wrong.. none of the armored horse mounts have ever been advertised as a 'unique' or 'exclusive' mount to a certain pack or promotion, were as the spider mount as, it was originaly stated as being 'unique' and 'exclusive' to the 'Founders' pack, pre live launch which was stated it would not be available after the live launch, but however all the contents was available after live launch the pack was exactly the same except the pack name was changed to 'Hero of the North' and obviously the 'founders title was removed, otherwise the pack was the same. even the spider mount was exactly the same, no change of colour, armor or size.
which leads to my point originaly that the original advertisement and hype by PWE that the 'Founders' pack and contents would be 'unique' and 'exclusive' to that pack and for people who purchased it pre live launch, which is a fact this is totaly untrue and was very missleading.
I am sorry but if you are told that somthing is 'Unique' and 'Exclusive' in a certain deal you would certainly not exspect to see the EXACT same item appear ( same colour, size etc) in another deal the day after the original deal ended, that is false advertising and deliberatly missleading the customer no matter how you want to look at it.
Quoted for truth. Perhaps even though not everyone bought the Hero of the North. They can certaintly apperciate the very misleading bending truth that has been told to the people. I am pleased that I am not alone in noticing a pattern.
So there you have it, founders were told their item was unique and exclusive who bought the pack. Furthermore they were lied to by claiming the promotion would soon end, all the items along with it would cease to exist. Obviously months after soft launch this sad lie, we know it to be misleading.
Thank you for putting into excellent words, what I have been saying all along.
And that spider WAS exclusive to that pack and is still exclusive to the HotN pack. What does this have to do with the new spider mount which is a different spider mount?
Seriously !! how was it exclusive to that pack, when it as been stated as being exclusive in two totaly diferent name packs..the EXACT same mount.
How can somthing appear in 2 diferent packs and be called exclusive to 1 pack
Seriously !! how was it exclusive to that pack, when it as been stated as being exclusive in two totaly diferent name packs..the EXACT same mount.
How can somthing appear in 2 diferent packs and be called exclusive to 1 pack
Can you acquire that specific spider mount outside of either of those packs? Guess what that is called? Exclusivity.
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voiceoftemprusMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Before we continue arguing "uniqueness" any further (commonly accepted MMO definition, vs. a handful of users definition), can someone who's actually seen the two spiders in detail clear something up?
Is it just a recolor (different texture), or are there some changes to the model? (Like, different armor details, etc)
I saw one yesterday, it was different enough in color and size to catch my attention long enough to notice it was different from the Founders version but I am not familiar enough with the old one to say if color and size were the only differences. It was in one of the stores yesterday (either the t-bar or AD one, I looked at both stores too closely together yesterday to remember which) and was a Rank 2 with 80% speed boost.
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I saw one yesterday, it was different enough in color and size to catch my attention long enough to notice it was different from the Founders version but I am not familiar enough with the old one to say if color and size were the only differences. It was in one of the stores yesterday (either the t-bar or AD one, I looked at both stores too closely together yesterday to remember which) and was a Rank 2 with 80% speed boost.
In PE you can go to the Mount Vendor and see the spider mount hanging out there. It is small with golden armor.
You do know how to read correct? It says "The more expensive Founder’s Packs include unique mounts and animal companions" Not that those items are unique to the pack.
LMAO, so your saying 'Unique' means it is available somwere else also' ............
UNIQUE definition, from the English Oxford Dictionary
existing as the only one or as the sole example; single; solitary in type or characteristics
The HotN pack has a Unique Spider mount in it, one that is not available anywhere else.
O my god, seriously... It was available in the 'Founders' pack and was stated as being UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE to that pack.
Struggle with the English language, lol, I am English, I live in England and i work in the media advertising world and i know for a fact the way PWE use the words UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE in ther advertising campaigns, would get then into pretty serious trouble if they was UK based
O my god, seriously... It was available in the 'Founders' pack and was stated as being UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE to that pack.
I know you'll say this is weaselly, and I don't disagree, but both the Hero and Guardian packs were sold first as Founder's Packs and then as Neverwinter Packs (with Founder title removed). Hero and Guardian have both always been subtypes of these promotions.
Thus, this armored spider mount is unique to everyone who bought a Hero pack, whether they did so as a founder or afterwards.
i already posted one link which clearly stated UNIQUE, and another clearly stating EXCLUSIVE, stop wasting your time.........
They did say in the original Founders pack Promo, its contents were unique and exclusive to THAT pack, but that as all been changed now and reworded and renamed to Hero of the North.
I know you'll say this is weaselly, and I don't disagree, but both the Hero and Guardian packs were sold first as Founder's Packs and then as Neverwinter Packs (with Founder title removed). Hero and Guardian have both always been subtypes of these promotions.
Thus, this armored spider mount is unique to everyone who bought a Hero pack, whether they did so as a founder or afterwards.
I agree, but the Founders pack was advertised as being a special pack for pre launch and its contents would be UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE to ONLY those that purchased it pre launch, it was deliberatly worded to seem as though it would not and its contents would not be available after launch, WHICH was my point all along, it was very deliberatly worded to be very missleading and the facts that items were stated as being EXCLUSIVE and UNIQUE to the founders pack was lies.
i already posted one link which clearly stated UNIQUE, and another clearly stating EXCLUSIVE, stop wasting your time.........
They did say in the original Founders pack Promo, its contents were unique and exclusive to THAT pack, but that as all been changed now and reworded and renamed to Hero of the North.
You posted 2 links, neither of which were written by Cryptic, that had differing information. Where is your proof from a source written by Cryptic.
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They did say in the original Founders pack Promo, its contents were unique and exclusive to THAT pack, but that as all been changed now and reworded and renamed to Hero of the North.
The $200 Founder's Pack was called Hero of the North.
The $200 Neverwinter Pack with the same stuff is also called Hero of the North.
While they did rename the Founder's Packs to Neverwinter Packs and keep selling them as being no longer a pre-launch exclusive due to the removal of the Founder title, there was no renaming of Hero of the North at any point. The $200 pack has always been the Hero pack, and the spider is exclusive to the Hero pack. This particular spider. Not any possible spider ever.
If you mount your Hero of the North spider, and someone standing next to you mounts their new/small/gold spider - will people still be able to tell that bought the Hero pack?
Yes?
Then nothing's changed.
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fusedmassMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 252Bounty Hunter
You posted 2 links, neither of which were written by Cryptic, that had differing information. Where is your proof from a source written by Cryptic.
Unlock exclusive access to the
HEAVY GIANT SPIDER MOUNT!
Terrorize your foes as you charge into battle atop this eight-legged beast.
Right there in the title, it does say exclusive. My point is, you simply cannot shrink the mount, place on a different skin and then put it back for people to buy. It says right there unlock the exclusive access to the spider mount. Granted, it doesn't say "only spider mount"
Yet it heavily does imply this item is unique, even if it doesn't say so. For months people trusted this company. That's why when it said "Countdown to Founders Pack" no one was fazed. First, it was pushed back a few weeks, then a few months.
Now its there forever. They simply removed the founders title, yet still charge people the 200 dollars. Then later on they have a mini spider mount. Out of all the mounts they could have created, they created an animal similar to one that you would obtained if you bought Hero of the North.
This isn't simply about the mount. Its about the massive misleading tactics the company used to show this would be a "limited time only" with even a countdown that kept getting extended. Its about being sincere with your customer base. How are we supposed trust, next time they say limited time only. If they don't have a limited time and just make different copys, with colors and size of something that was supposed remain exclusive
Terrorize your foes as you charge into battle atop this eight-legged beast.
Right there in the title, it does say exclusive. My point is, you simply cannot shrink the mount, place on a different skin and then put it back for people to buy. It says right there unlock the exclusive access to the spider mount. Granted, it doesn't say "only spider mount"
Yet it heavily does imply this item is unique, even if it doesn't say so. For months people trusted this company. That's why when it said "Countdown to Founders Pack" no one was fazed. First, it was pushed back a few weeks, then a few months.
Now its there forever. They simply removed the founders title, yet still charge people the 200 dollars. Then later on they have a mini spider mount. Out of all the mounts they could have created, they created an animal similar to one that you would obtained if you bought Hero of the North.
This isn't simply about the mount. Its about the massive misleading tactics the company used to show this would be a "limited time only" with even a countdown that kept getting extended. Its about being sincere with your customer base. How are we supposed trust, next time they say limited time only. If they don't have a limited time and just make different copys, with colors and size of something that was supposed remain exclusive
Finally we have something from Cryptic saying exclusive, for the Heavy Giant Spider Mount. Which means any other mount with a different name is not the same as the Heavy Giant Spider Mount.
And I look at the spider mount as similar to the Drow. HotN got the Menzo Renegade months before everyone else, and now everyone has access to the Drow race, which is different then the Menzo Renegade.
I can understand you are butt hurt that you bought the founders title and you were mislead by your own reading comprehension, but alas never did they state that they wouldnt be selling the pack in a modified way. It is because of this loophole that the Neverwinter packs exist. But come on, did you really think they would sell a $200 pack for only a limited time or would they keep selling it to try and get the most out of it. PWE is a company, think like a compnay.
You posted 2 links, neither of which were written by Cryptic, that had differing information. Where is your proof from a source written by Cryptic.
LOL. i can post many many links to reviews and most will say their review was compilled using information provided by PWE themsleves
You can argue and argue , but the original advertising of the Founders packs was total and utter BS, the words UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE should never have been used and were totaly missleading. The advertisement clearly stated you would have a rare epic mount and a rare epic companion, that were UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE and if you did not buy before launch you would miss out and not have these items
i could go further, there are also many early reviews out there which also say their information for the review was provided by Cryptic Studios and some of these mention the option to unbind companions which would be added to the game at a later date.
But now PWE state they have NEVER had any intentions at all to introduce the option, BUT the option buton was there on the companion screen, even showing a cost in AD, WHY ? If acording to PWE it was something they had thought about in very very early testing, but decided to not and never to use it, BUT all through Open Beta and long into 'live' the option buton was still there.
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I'll happily respond to you, when you can write a four sentence paragraph that details exactly how I am wrong, instead of saying "you're wrong, in your mind, and mistaken" I've already proven on solid information how they mislead the customer base during the Hero of North Promotion. (Which you completely ignored) and that's understandable because it doesn't support your case.
I never said. I would never see a spider again. (That's you putting words in my mouth) I understand with your very limited sentences its hard to drive any point across, at all. However truth in what I said. This upcoming mount was supposed be something nobody had, not one person.
In fact, I already have it. I'm not upset more people are getting it. That's exactly where you're mind drifts off. I'm upset that instead of creating a unique mount. It's exactly the same thing expect for being a mini spider. Let's review this again, because I know the truth is hard to think in your mind.
I'm upset that instead of a new unique, mount (we never before seen before) we're getting a replay of something a ton of already have. Of course when they said it would be unique as other posters pointed out, and you ignored. It's not unique any longer when you have mini pets running around.
That's a different subject however.
UMMM no. the Stag rank 3 comes from lockboxes... -.- You have to buy the spider mount not gamble for it
Wrong.. none of the armored horse mounts have ever been advertised as a 'unique' or 'exclusive' mount to a certain pack or promotion, were as the spider mount as, it was originaly stated as being 'unique' and 'exclusive' to the 'Founders' pack, pre live launch which was stated it would not be available after the live launch, but however all the contents was available after live launch the pack was exactly the same except the pack name was changed to 'Hero of the North' and obviously the 'founders title was removed, otherwise the pack was the same. even the spider mount was exactly the same, no change of colour, armor or size.
which leads to my point originaly that the original advertisement and hype by PWE that the 'Founders' pack and contents would be 'unique' and 'exclusive' to that pack and for people who purchased it pre live launch, which is a fact this is totaly untrue and was very missleading.
I am sorry but if you are told that somthing is 'Unique' and 'Exclusive' in a certain deal you would certainly not exspect to see the EXACT same item appear ( same colour, size etc) in another deal the day after the original deal ended, that is false advertising and deliberatly missleading the customer no matter how you want to look at it.
Im guessing you have links or some proof saying that the spider mount would be exclusive to the HotN pack, and that the pack wouldnt be available after launch?
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Actually they did state that, many many many times. However, they also said that specific spider mount and even hinted that other spider mounts would be available later. So, butthurt over the spider=not keeping up on what was promised.
And your proof that they stated that many many many times? Because I am coming up empty handed in my searches.
Ermmm, Hero of the North pack was not available pre 'live' launch, Pre live launch it was called 'founders' pack as it was advertised as being 'unique' and 'Exclusive. and the spider was said to be 'Exlcusive' to that pack and only available if purchase pre 'live' launch.
However the pack , or name did in fact end at 'live' launch, and was now available as a pack called' Hero of the North' With all the EXACT same contents, same companion and same spider, Exactly the same, same colour, size, armour
And that spider WAS exclusive to that pack and is still exclusive to the HotN pack. What does this have to do with the new spider mount which is a different spider mount?
heres one i can link over 20 : http://www.ggsgamer.com/2013/04/20/last-chance-to-buy-neverwinter-founders-packs/
note how it states spider is 'UNIQUE' to founders pack
Heres another, which states founders pack conains EXCLUSIVE mount and companion
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.399725-Neverwinter-Founders-Packs-Cost-Up-To-200
You are right, my apologies I was only offering my Opinion on this subject. I stand by a quote I have used in the past when dealing with people such as the Op on forums. "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience." ~Mark Twain
At this point I really have nothing else to offer to someone who's delusional in thought,
Best of luck to everyone else and best wishes to the Op in their crusade against w/e it is they feel they are crusading against.
Life is a dream for the wise, a game for the fool, a comedy for the rich, a tragedy for the poor.
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You do know how to read correct? It says "The more expensive Founder’s Packs include unique mounts and animal companions" Not that those items are unique to the pack.
Quoted for truth. Perhaps even though not everyone bought the Hero of the North. They can certaintly apperciate the very misleading bending truth that has been told to the people. I am pleased that I am not alone in noticing a pattern.
So there you have it, founders were told their item was unique and exclusive who bought the pack. Furthermore they were lied to by claiming the promotion would soon end, all the items along with it would cease to exist. Obviously months after soft launch this sad lie, we know it to be misleading.
Thank you for putting into excellent words, what I have been saying all along.
Seriously !! how was it exclusive to that pack, when it as been stated as being exclusive in two totaly diferent name packs..the EXACT same mount.
How can somthing appear in 2 diferent packs and be called exclusive to 1 pack
Can you acquire that specific spider mount outside of either of those packs? Guess what that is called? Exclusivity.
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In PE you can go to the Mount Vendor and see the spider mount hanging out there. It is small with golden armor.
LMAO, so your saying 'Unique' means it is available somwere else also' ............
UNIQUE definition, from the English Oxford Dictionary
existing as the only one or as the sole example; single; solitary in type or characteristics
I understand you struggle with the English language now so let me try and phrase this in a way you will be able to understand.
The HotN pack has a Unique Spider mount in it, one that is not available anywhere else.
Currently there is a new Spider mount available that is not the same as the one in the HotN pack.
O my god, seriously... It was available in the 'Founders' pack and was stated as being UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE to that pack.
Struggle with the English language, lol, I am English, I live in England and i work in the media advertising world and i know for a fact the way PWE use the words UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE in ther advertising campaigns, would get then into pretty serious trouble if they was UK based
Where did CRYPTIC ever state that the spider mount was exclusive to the pack? You cannot provide any proof of that as it doesnt exist.
I know you'll say this is weaselly, and I don't disagree, but both the Hero and Guardian packs were sold first as Founder's Packs and then as Neverwinter Packs (with Founder title removed). Hero and Guardian have both always been subtypes of these promotions.
Thus, this armored spider mount is unique to everyone who bought a Hero pack, whether they did so as a founder or afterwards.
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They did say in the original Founders pack Promo, its contents were unique and exclusive to THAT pack, but that as all been changed now and reworded and renamed to Hero of the North.
I agree, but the Founders pack was advertised as being a special pack for pre launch and its contents would be UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE to ONLY those that purchased it pre launch, it was deliberatly worded to seem as though it would not and its contents would not be available after launch, WHICH was my point all along, it was very deliberatly worded to be very missleading and the facts that items were stated as being EXCLUSIVE and UNIQUE to the founders pack was lies.
You posted 2 links, neither of which were written by Cryptic, that had differing information. Where is your proof from a source written by Cryptic.
The $200 Founder's Pack was called Hero of the North.
The $200 Neverwinter Pack with the same stuff is also called Hero of the North.
While they did rename the Founder's Packs to Neverwinter Packs and keep selling them as being no longer a pre-launch exclusive due to the removal of the Founder title, there was no renaming of Hero of the North at any point. The $200 pack has always been the Hero pack, and the spider is exclusive to the Hero pack. This particular spider. Not any possible spider ever.
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If you mount your Hero of the North spider, and someone standing next to you mounts their new/small/gold spider - will people still be able to tell that bought the Hero pack?
Yes?
Then nothing's changed.
Unlock exclusive access to the
HEAVY GIANT SPIDER MOUNT!
Terrorize your foes as you charge into battle atop this eight-legged beast.
Right there in the title, it does say exclusive. My point is, you simply cannot shrink the mount, place on a different skin and then put it back for people to buy. It says right there unlock the exclusive access to the spider mount. Granted, it doesn't say "only spider mount"
Yet it heavily does imply this item is unique, even if it doesn't say so. For months people trusted this company. That's why when it said "Countdown to Founders Pack" no one was fazed. First, it was pushed back a few weeks, then a few months.
Now its there forever. They simply removed the founders title, yet still charge people the 200 dollars. Then later on they have a mini spider mount. Out of all the mounts they could have created, they created an animal similar to one that you would obtained if you bought Hero of the North.
This isn't simply about the mount. Its about the massive misleading tactics the company used to show this would be a "limited time only" with even a countdown that kept getting extended. Its about being sincere with your customer base. How are we supposed trust, next time they say limited time only. If they don't have a limited time and just make different copys, with colors and size of something that was supposed remain exclusive
Finally we have something from Cryptic saying exclusive, for the Heavy Giant Spider Mount. Which means any other mount with a different name is not the same as the Heavy Giant Spider Mount.
And I look at the spider mount as similar to the Drow. HotN got the Menzo Renegade months before everyone else, and now everyone has access to the Drow race, which is different then the Menzo Renegade.
I can understand you are butt hurt that you bought the founders title and you were mislead by your own reading comprehension, but alas never did they state that they wouldnt be selling the pack in a modified way. It is because of this loophole that the Neverwinter packs exist. But come on, did you really think they would sell a $200 pack for only a limited time or would they keep selling it to try and get the most out of it. PWE is a company, think like a compnay.
LOL. i can post many many links to reviews and most will say their review was compilled using information provided by PWE themsleves
You can argue and argue , but the original advertising of the Founders packs was total and utter BS, the words UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE should never have been used and were totaly missleading. The advertisement clearly stated you would have a rare epic mount and a rare epic companion, that were UNIQUE and EXCLUSIVE and if you did not buy before launch you would miss out and not have these items
i could go further, there are also many early reviews out there which also say their information for the review was provided by Cryptic Studios and some of these mention the option to unbind companions which would be added to the game at a later date.
But now PWE state they have NEVER had any intentions at all to introduce the option, BUT the option buton was there on the companion screen, even showing a cost in AD, WHY ? If acording to PWE it was something they had thought about in very very early testing, but decided to not and never to use it, BUT all through Open Beta and long into 'live' the option buton was still there.