Imagine how many of these threads will happen if they merge all the shards.
Personally I don't mind if someone attacks mobs I'm fighting. However, when we are all running around in similar areas trying to do the same things, I object to people who think they are more entitled to a mob then anyone else.
More likely because you are not a tank and cannot handle 20+ mobs at once yourself.
This behaviour is exactly what pisses off the nice people, alot. Usually i am being ks'ed by TR and CW's.
(Both classes can't tank for s#*! in PvE, and when they see someone killing/trying to kill a massive amount of mobs, they are getting jealous and the GREED kicks in and they attack your mobs.)
This is what's really happening. Wrap it in nice wordings as much as you like. It won't ever change the fact that such behaviour is inappropriate and should be punished.
So, what you are saying is that you want to be able to hog all the MoBs in an area, because you can take the damage. Pull an area and claim every MoB as your own? It sounds like the "GREED" that is kicking in is your own. If you are pulling all the mobs in the area, and people need them for quests, you can expect they are going to get their shots in. The fact that you CAN take on all those MoBs at once does not mean you should. I pretty sure that "sharing" is what most consider "appropriate behavior".
We are not talking about exploiting monsters to death by knocking them into a pit. The mobs that i pull would kill any CW, instantly. He could not control them all at once and the rest would just run through the CW and his 900 defense, like a hot knife through butter.
seeya.
Honestly I don't know if you're trolling or if you really haven't seen what any non mouth breathing CW can do, but I assure you punting mobs off platform is just something they do for kicks, they can control an entire room if they know what they're doing and yes for clarification, I do mean a room without pits.
I can tank 20 mobs as a GWF just as well as you can but like the last poster said the idea that you "own" these mobs just because you rounded them up and made them hit you seems more juvenile than anything else. Getting way off topic though, so just to clarify OP KSing is not griefing in the slightest. Following someone around and going out of your way to stop them from enjoying the PVE content is what PVE griefing would be, not "kill stealing".
I've just come to realize that this game doesn't really work the way some other games I've played in the past have. And since you get next to no XP for killing stuff anyway (it's all about Quest XP) and like one or two hits is enough for quest credit and loot, I just learned to roll with it and stop worrying about someone killing "my mobs" since I'm still getting the credit and loot.
I've just come to realize that this game doesn't really work the way some other games I've played in the past have. And since you get next to no XP for killing stuff anyway (it's all about Quest XP) and like one or two hits is enough for quest credit and loot, I just learned to roll with it and stop worrying about someone killing "my mobs" since I'm still getting the credit and loot.
There's one particular quest in the chasm where each time I've done it I've had to kill a particular type of mob, which is especially rare, over and over before it eventually drops anything. I noticed that when it does drop the item it drops it for everyone that was attacking it. Imagine if some self righteous person expected you not to attack it because they'd lose 0.0000000001% of a level in experience. This behaviour is nothing but anti social.
Maybe you people should actually read the Terms of Service that you all agreed to. Particulary section 10 (n) on User Conduct.
(n) Take any action that disrupts the Service or that negatively affects or may prohibit other users from enjoying the Website, the Games or any other aspect of the Service.
My enjoyment of this game was affected by these people. Therefor they broke the rules. Therfor it is griefing.
0
bioshrikeMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,729Arc User
Maybe you people should actually read the Terms of Service that you all agreed to. Particulary section 10 (n) on User Conduct.
(n) Take any action that disrupts the Service or that negatively affects or may prohibit other users from enjoying the Website, the Games or any other aspect of the Service.
My enjoyment of this game was affected by these people. Therefor they broke the rules. Therfor it is griefing.
What if player A gets enjoyment from "helping" others fight enemies? So player A gains enjoyment by an act that player B loses enjoyment from? Who is in the right, here?
Heck, I can say that people shouting in Zone are lessening my enjoyment? Does that mean that I can define them as griefers and get them banned?
The game is specifically and intentionally laid out in such a way that all people who contribute to an enemy's defeat get a portion of the rewards. If being able to intervene was not intended, then why not have enemies get "tagged" for the player who initiated combat, thereby eliminating rewards for others that come later?
<::::::::::::::)xxxo <::::::::::::::)xxxo <::::::::::::)xxxxxxxx(:::::::::::> oxxx(::::::::::::::> oxxx(::::::::::::::> "Is it better to be feared or respected? I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark Official NW_Legit_Community Forums
You still don't get it. I don't WANT help killing mobs. Therefor LEAVE me alone when I am killing them.
Oh I get it. You don't *own* those enemies. You don't have exclusive rights to them, the area they spawn in, or the manner in which *I* choose to play the game.
Until a dev comes here and spells out that other players should not intervene in someone's fight, then it is not a prohibited act.
<::::::::::::::)xxxo <::::::::::::::)xxxo <::::::::::::)xxxxxxxx(:::::::::::> oxxx(::::::::::::::> oxxx(::::::::::::::> "Is it better to be feared or respected? I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark Official NW_Legit_Community Forums
More likely because you are not a tank and cannot handle 20+ mobs at once yourself.
This behaviour is exactly what pisses off the nice people, alot. Usually i am being ks'ed by TR and CW's.
(Both classes can't tank for s#*! in PvE, and when they see someone killing/trying to kill a massive amount of mobs, they are getting jealous and the GREED kicks in and they attack your mobs.)
This is what's really happening. Wrap it in nice wordings as much as you like. It won't ever change the fact that such behaviour is inappropriate and should be punished.
peace.
No, When I see this. A moron running around gathering up a huge hoard of mobs so they can AoE them down. I think they are idiots. Like a fat greedy kid stuffing as much candy in their mouth before the other kids can take it from him.
If you honestly want to claim "yours" stick to one group at a time. If you honestly think you can claim several groups and own an entire area. Think again.
There's one particular quest in the chasm where each time I've done it I've had to kill a particular type of mob, which is especially rare, over and over before it eventually drops anything. I noticed that when it does drop the item it drops it for everyone that was attacking it. Imagine if some self righteous person expected you not to attack it because they'd lose 0.0000000001% of a level in experience. This behaviour is nothing but anti social.
Yup, I know the quest. There is a grand total of 3 adventurers in the entire zone. They are needed for 2 quests and you need to kill a minimum of 5 of them to progress. Meaning at best you need to kill one set twice. To make things worse, they take twice as long to repop as any other mob in the zone.
They are a complete bottleneck. To progress forward, especially if the zone, or zones, are busy, all but mandates sharing. Anyone who feels they can own these spawns and force others to wait for the extremely log repop times are sadly delusional.
Oh I get it. You don't *own* those enemies. You don't have exclusive rights to them, the area they spawn in, or the manner in which *I* choose to play the game.
Until a dev comes here and spells out that other players should not intervene in someone's fight, then it is not a prohibited act.
Did you even bother to read what I posted about the terms of service. Anything that affects my enjoyment of the game is a breach of the terms. If I tell you to leave me alone in-game and stop interfering in my fights affects my enjoyment of the game. I will report you as you broke the rules.
Anything that affects my enjoyment of the game is a breach of the terms.
Is this really the main singular focus of your entire argument here? Because in all honesty, that is one heck of a slippery slope to stand on. How do you quantify it, police it, or judge something so completely subjective to an individuals whims? Are you honestly advocating the individual should be the sole decider in all this? Can you not see how potentially insane and abusive this would be?
And if its not up to the individual, then it must be up to Cryptic themselves. And they have refrained from commenting on this at all, either for or against. However, indications and general attitude leans heavily in favor of this not being an issue. This is further supported by mechanics that encourage sharing of xp and loot.
Did you even bother to read what I posted about the terms of service. Anything that affects my enjoyment of the game is a breach of the terms. If I tell you to leave me alone in-game and stop interfering in my fights affects my enjoyment of the game. I will report you as you broke the rules.
... delusional and self righteous come to mind.
_______________________
---- FIRE EVERYTHING ! ----
Time to put this thread out of its misery for the back and forth flaming.
If you believe someone is breaking any sort of rules, please feel free to use the ticketing system or the ingame reporting system, however, do be aware that any appropriate action (and this includes no action at all) is at the final discretion of PWE/Cryptic.
ROLL TIDE ROLL
Great Weapon Fighter: Because when is today not a good day to die?
PC and PS4 player. Proud Guildmaster for PS4 Team Fencebane. Rank 5 Officer for PC Team Fencebane. Visit us at http://fencebane.shivtr.com
Comments
Personally I don't mind if someone attacks mobs I'm fighting. However, when we are all running around in similar areas trying to do the same things, I object to people who think they are more entitled to a mob then anyone else.
glassdoor.com - Cryptic Studios Review
So, what you are saying is that you want to be able to hog all the MoBs in an area, because you can take the damage. Pull an area and claim every MoB as your own? It sounds like the "GREED" that is kicking in is your own. If you are pulling all the mobs in the area, and people need them for quests, you can expect they are going to get their shots in. The fact that you CAN take on all those MoBs at once does not mean you should. I pretty sure that "sharing" is what most consider "appropriate behavior".
Honestly I don't know if you're trolling or if you really haven't seen what any non mouth breathing CW can do, but I assure you punting mobs off platform is just something they do for kicks, they can control an entire room if they know what they're doing and yes for clarification, I do mean a room without pits.
I can tank 20 mobs as a GWF just as well as you can but like the last poster said the idea that you "own" these mobs just because you rounded them up and made them hit you seems more juvenile than anything else. Getting way off topic though, so just to clarify OP KSing is not griefing in the slightest. Following someone around and going out of your way to stop them from enjoying the PVE content is what PVE griefing would be, not "kill stealing".
I have to agree with you on that.
THANK YOU for this post.
i tried it and griefing is a lot of fun. i think more people should play this game and grief, its awesome!
(n) Take any action that disrupts the Service or that negatively affects or may prohibit other users from enjoying the Website, the Games or any other aspect of the Service.
My enjoyment of this game was affected by these people. Therefor they broke the rules. Therfor it is griefing.
What if player A gets enjoyment from "helping" others fight enemies? So player A gains enjoyment by an act that player B loses enjoyment from? Who is in the right, here?
Heck, I can say that people shouting in Zone are lessening my enjoyment? Does that mean that I can define them as griefers and get them banned?
The game is specifically and intentionally laid out in such a way that all people who contribute to an enemy's defeat get a portion of the rewards. If being able to intervene was not intended, then why not have enemies get "tagged" for the player who initiated combat, thereby eliminating rewards for others that come later?
"Is it better to be feared or respected? I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark
Official NW_Legit_Community Forums
Oh I get it. You don't *own* those enemies. You don't have exclusive rights to them, the area they spawn in, or the manner in which *I* choose to play the game.
Until a dev comes here and spells out that other players should not intervene in someone's fight, then it is not a prohibited act.
"Is it better to be feared or respected? I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark
Official NW_Legit_Community Forums
No, When I see this. A moron running around gathering up a huge hoard of mobs so they can AoE them down. I think they are idiots. Like a fat greedy kid stuffing as much candy in their mouth before the other kids can take it from him.
If you honestly want to claim "yours" stick to one group at a time. If you honestly think you can claim several groups and own an entire area. Think again.
Yup, I know the quest. There is a grand total of 3 adventurers in the entire zone. They are needed for 2 quests and you need to kill a minimum of 5 of them to progress. Meaning at best you need to kill one set twice. To make things worse, they take twice as long to repop as any other mob in the zone.
They are a complete bottleneck. To progress forward, especially if the zone, or zones, are busy, all but mandates sharing. Anyone who feels they can own these spawns and force others to wait for the extremely log repop times are sadly delusional.
Did you even bother to read what I posted about the terms of service. Anything that affects my enjoyment of the game is a breach of the terms. If I tell you to leave me alone in-game and stop interfering in my fights affects my enjoyment of the game. I will report you as you broke the rules.
Is this really the main singular focus of your entire argument here? Because in all honesty, that is one heck of a slippery slope to stand on. How do you quantify it, police it, or judge something so completely subjective to an individuals whims? Are you honestly advocating the individual should be the sole decider in all this? Can you not see how potentially insane and abusive this would be?
And if its not up to the individual, then it must be up to Cryptic themselves. And they have refrained from commenting on this at all, either for or against. However, indications and general attitude leans heavily in favor of this not being an issue. This is further supported by mechanics that encourage sharing of xp and loot.
Your argument is simply not looking viable.
... delusional and self righteous come to mind.
---- FIRE EVERYTHING ! ----
If you believe someone is breaking any sort of rules, please feel free to use the ticketing system or the ingame reporting system, however, do be aware that any appropriate action (and this includes no action at all) is at the final discretion of PWE/Cryptic.
Great Weapon Fighter: Because when is today not a good day to die?
PC and PS4 player. Proud Guildmaster for PS4 Team Fencebane. Rank 5 Officer for PC Team Fencebane. Visit us at http://fencebane.shivtr.com