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Rogue Nerf Petition (Closed)
avianbandor
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Trickster Rogue Upcoming Patch
Cloud of Steel: This power now has 8 maximum charges, down from 12.
Duelist's Flurry: When the bleed portion of this power is at 10 stacks, further applications now recalculate damage in addition to refreshing the duration.
Feat: Speed Swindle: This feat is now properly considered a Control effect for calculations and procs.
Lurker's Assault: This power now grants 5 / 10 / 15% bonus Crit Severity, instead of 20 / 40 / 60% bonus damage.
Stealth: At-will powers used from stealth will now partially deplete the Stealth Meter.
This is after some heavy nerf's before. Is this the right course of action for the majority of players? Or do you feel they're going about the sometimes needed balances/nerfs incorrectly?
Everyone that feels Crytic is nerfing TR's incorrectly, please +1 in this thread.
Or if you feel that attempted PVP balance is impairing Rogue PvE play.
If you +1 you are agreeing to the above and one or all of the following :
1. Showing you're disgruntledness rightfully.
2. Possibly leaving the game.
3. Possibly leaving the class.
4. Much less likely to spend money on the game.
Please put you're +1's here to sign the Rogue Nerf Petition. We have a voice, lets make it heard!
(Please note : If you disagree and post, you are still giving a +1 to the thread's post count...)
Trickster Rogue Upcoming Patch
Cloud of Steel: This power now has 8 maximum charges, down from 12.
Duelist's Flurry: When the bleed portion of this power is at 10 stacks, further applications now recalculate damage in addition to refreshing the duration.
Feat: Speed Swindle: This feat is now properly considered a Control effect for calculations and procs.
Lurker's Assault: This power now grants 5 / 10 / 15% bonus Crit Severity, instead of 20 / 40 / 60% bonus damage.
Stealth: At-will powers used from stealth will now partially deplete the Stealth Meter.
This is after some heavy nerf's before. Is this the right course of action for the majority of players? Or do you feel they're going about the sometimes needed balances/nerfs incorrectly?
Everyone that feels Crytic is nerfing TR's incorrectly, please +1 in this thread.
Or if you feel that attempted PVP balance is impairing Rogue PvE play.
If you +1 you are agreeing to the above and one or all of the following :
1. Showing you're disgruntledness rightfully.
2. Possibly leaving the game.
3. Possibly leaving the class.
4. Much less likely to spend money on the game.
Please put you're +1's here to sign the Rogue Nerf Petition. We have a voice, lets make it heard!
(Please note : If you disagree and post, you are still giving a +1 to the thread's post count...)
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+1
+1'ing because:
I am disgruntled about the change. Yes.
but...
Leaving the game, not likely.
Vowing not to spend any more money on the game, nope. Still will. I still enjoy it so far. (albeit recent patch notes makes me think "for how much longer?"
Likely leaving the class, Yes, and no.
First character was a rogue, and felt no need/desire to create another character so my second character slot has been free since the beginning. Now I'm actually thinking of rolling into another class (since no announcements of rangers are near) and seeing what it's like from their side. Likely a GF.
I'll never delete the rogue tho. Love the dude too much by now.
fyi petitions aren't allowed on the forums and its much better to just give +1 by engaging in topics titled "these changes are nuts"
No.
8.5k gs...rofl... i can hit u for 19k without lurker.... can hit u for 15k with ibs on gwf... can hit u for 30k with bullcharge on gf.... can hit u for 20k with prophecy on dc... any thoughts on that?
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"You don't quit gaming because you grow old, you grow old because you quit gaming"
I started to play this game about a month ago, got a lvl 56 TR now, having fun with it, already feeling the previous nerfs.
Now they completely destroy rogues.
Neverwinter team, if you do this i will most definiately delete my account and advise all my friends not to play this game.
No, this is not a threat... How could i threaten you with this? Surely my place will be filled with useless SIEMURKS.
Noobs cry when a great player kills them in the most tricky class, company is afraid they will lose those **** players, as they are the biggest P2W-lover moneycows, so they NERF... Pathetic...
This game started nice, ends with my utter disdain.
So stupid and unnecessary
Nerf them in pvp, dont bring us players who also PVE down by making DF a useless ability and overall lowering our DPS by insane amounts,
Possibly will quit the game
Deff leaving the class
Deff not spending money on the game
Devs should look into the OP GF and GWFs as well.
I agree that CoS needed a slight nerf, maybe 15% damage reduction and 10 charges? But the Lurker's assault nerf is waaaay out of hand, 15% crit severity, really? That's nerfing a single daily by like... over 80%... That's even worse than 15% damage would be and that would be a 75% nerf... Maybe 10/20/30% more damage or 20/30/40% but not this... Next time you devs nerf something please do it carefully, not make an ability completely useless. Perma-stealth was a bit OP but you didn't have to destroy an entire class nerfing a build that was a problem pretty much only in PvP. The whole poont of stealth is to be able to use at-wills. Different effects and damage from skills in PvP anyone? Well, if this goes live might as well /cast SE on self... oh wait that was also nerfed so probably wouldn't leave so much as a scratch.
why fix something which is not broken? LA? really? will you take GWF's unstoppable away? it's like a daily without a CD..
The perm invisible is plain op... i do quite a bit of pvp and i have seen perm invisible rogues take down a whole team by them selfs without taking a single hit... come on that is just plain unfair for other classes. 1 rogue can win a complete pvp match by only killing the enemy team non stop basicly...
My friends have all quit due to lack of bugfixes and lack of content. I wasn't even that bothered with stealth rogues, and now I cant even play my normal executioner style rogue. What is there for me.
GGrym's boring kill and collect, Ride around anticlockwise on horses pvp, repeatedly coinfarming the same spider.
Glad I only spent 2 weeks on this. Sincerely hope they get a grip and look after the playerbase properly.
It was all pretty broken now some skills will function correctly. YaY. I am so excited now with what will come and this game does has some hope by making these needed adjustments to the rogue class.
Gimping PvE to cater to PvP whines is not the way to go. There are far better solutions, starting with fixing stacking Enchants.
Bosses could have been given the ability to see through stealth.
Lurker's could have been made to actually break stealth when doing something that would normally break stealth (Impact Shot).
CoS could have been the only at-will to break stealth somewhat, as a TR in melee range is already detectable.
But grats to the QQers, you've proven yet again that whining is more effective than learning to play.
edit:
Another thing on Lurker's: giving more Crit severity.
This caters to the Executioner build, which as it happens, is not the perma-stealth build. The Saboteur path is perma-stealth, and sacrifices critical chance for extended stealth.
So it's a huge damage nerf to the class that already did less damage than it's counterpart, and a somewhat lesser damage nerf to the path that thrives on the one/two shot kill.
It's just wrong.
Then the "fix" with LA... just no. Some damage adjustment could have been done, but 15% crit severity? Really?
There are better ways to nerf perma without wrecking other builds along with it. LA and stealth nerfs are too much
i see, so you speak for 1000 people now?
they should at least give us immunity to CC while you have Lurker's Assault up..
and if you still can't understand what this means, imagine if the GWF's unstoppable just made you look bigger and nothing more..
I think the 1,000's of players already spoke on wanting the broken class fixed. Good move cryptic in listening and making the game better.
do you do dungeons? what daily do you use?
think about it
Although I do see where you are coming from with the pve side of things and I agree the rogue changes could have been done a better way, separate pve/pvp abilities, and I agree the lurkers change is pretty brutal but as I've have found with MMO's for about 15 years, the whiners tend to win eventually ,sad but true, those who cannot better themselves at playing, cry nerf on anything they cannot themselves counter, while good players find a way to counter it and this game is no different.
You already have a immunity and tons of dodge so I do understand it. Lurkers doesn't need to give immune to so they we have a perma immune rogue lol.