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Bind on Pickup = Death of the Economy
noyouwont
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AD will become the new gold. It won't be worth anything substantial at all.
RNG will own your face apart and you will get stuck farming the same instances >9000 times only to get 3 out of 4 pieces of your set. GG'd.
GAME RUINED BY CHANGE.
This is not WoW. I don't not want WoW. STOP COPYING WOW.
Or better yet, give the whiners their own shard where items can't be traded and everyone can be a big cesspool of terribad together.
As for this change: who really wants this garbage??!?!
RNG will own your face apart and you will get stuck farming the same instances >9000 times only to get 3 out of 4 pieces of your set. GG'd.
GAME RUINED BY CHANGE.
This is not WoW. I don't not want WoW. STOP COPYING WOW.
Or better yet, give the whiners their own shard where items can't be traded and everyone can be a big cesspool of terribad together.
As for this change: who really wants this garbage??!?!
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I welcome the change.
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WoW is not where this started you do know WoW copied other games.
When I played EQI way before WoW came out there were items that were bound on pick-up.
The fundamental problem is this:
Dungeon loot is the ONLY loot that can only be obtained legitimately.
I don't see bots running around in T2 rampantly putting massive amounts of gear on the AH.
IT STILL HAS VALUE.
This makes it so all trade-able goods can be obtained by ill-gotten means and the cheaters will decimate the economy.
GAME RUINED.
I think the problems lies within DD it self, most mmo that does BoP have no DD-style timer on their dungeon
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?350242-End-Game-Loot-System-Changes-Ready-for-Testing-Soon!&p=4462702&viewfull=1#post4462702
That is a very interesting opinion you have there, I noticed your title is "Bind on Pickup = Death of the Economy" You seem to have missed out the formula,graphs,surveys and statistic's that support your statement. You must have forgotten them. Upload them when you'r ready I am eagure to see them....
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I believe that it's their fix to exploiting dungeons, instead of fixing the dungeons themselves. If you can't sell the loot other than to vendor for gold, then the damage the exploits can do has been cut down drastically.
I'll have to hear just how widespread they plan to bind items before I go one way or the other on the topic. It seems odd that they would just unbind several items from dungeon drops as bug fixes, then turn around and bind them all a week later.
Do you think this sounded smart? You want statistics that can only be produced by implementing the change and recording data, before the change is implemented?
So you're basically saying we should take it on faith.
Launch EQ1 did not, for the most part. They added a bunch of BoP stuff later, new items, while leaving the originals the way they were. The original stuff didn't bind on anything.
I was saying the OP's post is not justified in any way shape or form. It was an opinion he desperately tried to disguise as a fact.
The best way to show this would be ask for the facts behind his theory.
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If so, shall never run a dungeon again. Lol.
Lift me up..
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A lot of the attraction of NW was that it was not as grindy, and all the good gear being BoP will totally flip that on its head.
It's amazing to even see a small few people on the forum who actually seem to want the game to be a grinder. There are plenty of other games for that.
I'm sorry, put this feature in and watch the login plummet to the ground. People do NOT like to be reminded of have and have not in game. It's too much like real life.
Your guess is wrong, how bout you go read the facts.. They said MOST items will be BOP.. And said a FEW will be BOE and mentioned a crappy non-setbonus rogue item as an example. PVP/Seal all that stuff BOP too..
Simple reason:
BoE = Run dungeons to become wealthy by selling items int he AH, then buy your equipment.
BoP = Run dungeons to obtain your own equipment.
Cryptic just needs to modify the chance to drop to make it BoP.
"The harder the game, the better."
(jk)
And when you get your equipment you stop running dungeons. Because there is little reason to do so anymore.
When enough people stop running dungeons it becomes harder to fill queues. If folks don't fill queues, it becomes harder to get gear. If folks feel they cant gear up with reasonable effort, folks will leave. Leaving queues even harder to fill. This will continue in a slow spiraling decent until the only way to get gear is to rely on charity from the geared to help out.
It's brilliant, really. win-win.
People will say "omg you're killing the economy", "omg you're making the casual players quit", "omg I love the changes cause now my e-peen will be bigger" but guess what? That was not what they were aiming to. Fools.
I want this class in NW.
do explain to the fools
Guess you never played AoC then, timer on dungeons was 7 days, and gear Bop
The same would happen if it remains BoE; or, are you saying that the only reason for those that have obtained their own equipment to go to the dungeons is to obtain equipment to sell it in the AH?, it probably is one of the reasons but that alone in long term will not prevent what you said.
"The harder the game, the better."
Doh... the AD:Zen ratio will change as well... who is the silly now?
"The harder the game, the better."
To give players an additional method of earning Astral Diamonds for their Dungeon Delves, we'll be trying out a new "salvage" system that will allow players to redeem their dungeon loot at an NPC in Protector's Enclave for AD rewards.
Losing AD not entirely valid then, ppl might even start running DD or simply Dungeons more
No, not true at all AD is money. More money then gold. AD can buy you stuff in the zen store and the bazaar, and could set one up with a nice nest egg for future gear levels or increases.
Being fully geared was not a reason to stop running dungeons because one could still profit from it. Legitimately. It was a way to earn AD beyond simply grinding dailies. It was a way to continue to progress and earn, even after you got gear.
Remove the ability to profit from it. And you remove the whole reason to do them. Why bother getting geared if there is little reason or motivation to use said gear after the fact. You don't need high end gear to run dailies. And if dailies become the ONLY way to earn AD. Dungeon runs will all but evaporate, seeing as how they are the slowest and least efficient of the dailies to do.
Even with BOP, 99% of what anyone would need will be to sell it, not to actually use it. I've seen the whiners in a dungeon whining about people needing on their class gear. Then, I've seen them sell it themselves.
It's mind boggling to me that people actually believe this was ever even a serious problem. Everything should just be need imo.
I understand your point, but if they've not seen this through I'd be really disappointed on them.
"The harder the game, the better."