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grifting3
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well just finally got to run Epic Spellplague for first time after the patch. Tried it on my 11k tank specced GF thinking it would be
fun to get agro and hold for group (DC/CW/GWF/TR). WRONG, I get agro alright but w/o sufficient heals you just cant survive.. and yes I was blocking and popping pots like crazy. drop block to do anything and boom dead or close to it.
Party had multiple wipes before the first boss. of course people finally got sick of it and just quit..
thought ok maybe was just a bad group although people seemed to be moving and not standing in stupid as much as possible.
soo I get on my 11k CW to give it a try. pretty much same thing multiple wipes until party quits.
its sad that the game was basically built around ONE SKILL, Divine Astral Shield but sadly that's the case and they nerfed it too hard, and gave DC's nothing in return to help.
and before all the elitist come saying l2p, you suck, adapt, etc.. I play games to have fun, I put up w/the multiple bugs, exploits, non existent customer support but this is just sad.
if im not having fun then there is no point, and im not alone. the game has ALOT more casual and semi hardcore players than top end elitist 40+hour a week players that might enjoy the new challenge.
I hope something is done but I seriously doubt it. if not ill just move along to something else no biggie, but I had high hopes for this game and its potential. sadly its just shaping up to be a quick money grab by a company that doesn't care what their players think...........
but if you enjoy the new changes then have fun in a game that's gonna be dead before its even had its SUPPOSED official launch
fun to get agro and hold for group (DC/CW/GWF/TR). WRONG, I get agro alright but w/o sufficient heals you just cant survive.. and yes I was blocking and popping pots like crazy. drop block to do anything and boom dead or close to it.
Party had multiple wipes before the first boss. of course people finally got sick of it and just quit..
thought ok maybe was just a bad group although people seemed to be moving and not standing in stupid as much as possible.
soo I get on my 11k CW to give it a try. pretty much same thing multiple wipes until party quits.
its sad that the game was basically built around ONE SKILL, Divine Astral Shield but sadly that's the case and they nerfed it too hard, and gave DC's nothing in return to help.
and before all the elitist come saying l2p, you suck, adapt, etc.. I play games to have fun, I put up w/the multiple bugs, exploits, non existent customer support but this is just sad.
if im not having fun then there is no point, and im not alone. the game has ALOT more casual and semi hardcore players than top end elitist 40+hour a week players that might enjoy the new challenge.
I hope something is done but I seriously doubt it. if not ill just move along to something else no biggie, but I had high hopes for this game and its potential. sadly its just shaping up to be a quick money grab by a company that doesn't care what their players think...........
but if you enjoy the new changes then have fun in a game that's gonna be dead before its even had its SUPPOSED official launch
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oh yea too true, sorry, what was I thinking
Hope they will tweak the dungeouns soon.
For me on the other hand. I'm having so much fun.
My main rogue got to fully enchant, my alt rogue got to respec perma stealth, and my gwf is FINALLY fun to play in pvp.
I'm actually content.
Actually, that is a good point, I had started a GWF but shelved it to grind out a Cleric because I wanted to be able to run some T2 dungeons.
With a lil moisture in my eyes....i thought to myself....That was my GWF ALL ALONG SINCE LVL 1 till 60.
NOW......Muahahahahah, suckas better not ignore my 14k indomitable battle strike, followed up by my 18k crescendo!
No more easy mode. Some won't be able to adapt. Epic dungeons are now epic.
Tip for surviving on your GF: Take Cleave off your bar, put on both Threatening Rush and Shield Bash. Use Bash to recover block meter quickly. Stack Tene's and Lifedrinker. Stack Regen. Get a Dancing Shield and put the Eldritch Stone in it.
What's your Dmg Resistance + Deflect at? I'm also at about 11k GS, did a 3/3 Tac/Prot spec. Sitting at 49% and 22%, feeling invincible.
Also your DC is going to have to learn about glorious Bastion of Health with the 10% dmg resistance feat. Severely underrated skill that I'm betting will be used much more often after update.
Im glad GWF got a buff, they def needed it. Just wish they didnt have to ruin the rest of game when they did it.
the previous incarnation was bad. groups not needing guardians, kicking gwf, and just ignoring red patches because AS was the super crutch for bad players. it had to be changed.
if things are too hard now, the proper way to fix it is not to revert the changes and send fighters class back into the abyss.
the proper was is to adjust the damage so GF can survive it, and buff clerics other abilities so they are actually a well rounded healer.
the op has a point. previously the game ran on AS. however, it did have to be changed.
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Give it time bro. I believe ppl need some time to adapt. I'm sorry i can't give u pve input, but i can use PVP as an example.
For instance. I still see cleric dropping their AS in pvp and just standing on a spot, and STILL standing still when they see me running up, thinking their safe. LOL. and i still see CW spamming ray of enfeeblment, still see ppl ignoring my gwf thinking i can't kill nothing.....
This all will change, when they die a few times and change up their tactics...i forsee in a weeks time, ppl would have changed up their build and skills, tactics, to suit the new patch.
However that being said....IF there is absolutely NO WAY to run a dungeoun anymore even AFTER trying every way and tactic....then , YES something would be done due to the excessive noise made on forums etc etc.
Hope you would not give up. Let it run for a week or so. All the best:)
I suppose your telling me i violated some forum rule? I fail to see where i did so. I simply told my experiences after the new patch.
Since my experience was not a positive one i'm sorry to upset the fanbois that never find anything wrong with the COUNTLESS issues the game has.
What else can CW's do aside from enfeeble? Our only chance is to drop you before you drop us. That was possible pre-balance. Now we pretty much enfeeble and hope your gap-closers are on CD and you can't get back to us when we dodge. If you can, then we're just walking meatbags.
The thing is for people to adapt we need more than a free respec. Its my understanding that the respec doesnt reset feats as well, which also need to be changed (am i wrong?).
Not to mention people, myself as well have invested alot of time/ad to get the gear and enchants they have now and those will need a total rework as well.
Not fun to realize all your gearing effort was for nothing b/c its all utter HAMSTER with all the new changes.
Ok, i'm going to resist to say "how does it feel to be the new gwf?"^_^ Lol, kk sorry...bad joke.
Ok.....More constructively. In my opinion. Time to slot repel into your tab, and add shield into your encounters. Enfeeble is no longer the 2 hit and just walk away skill....
About the respec. It reset everything. The powers, the feats and your stats attribution.
Just that it is PRESSED from the button on your powers section, to use.
About the gear......That one i can see being bad. If a whole set was rendered useless due to changes...then that is effed up certainly.
Their is nothing wrong with not liking something, however all this doom saying and slander directed to this game is not called for, you aren't trying to better the game or this community you are just trying to put this game its developers and players down, maybe you get a kick out of that who knows.
You could have started a suggestion/poll thread on the matter or just posted your objections in a constructive way.
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Repel so I can...hope the gap closers are on CD?
Enfeeble was too strong, yes, but it was nerfed too hard just like DC's/Rogues.
The only good slot is still going to be enfeeble. It's still our ONLY chance to kill someone before we get rolled over, though we're more likely to get rolled over now than do the rolling. Glass cannon? Pfft. I'm brittle glass.
Also, shocking execution is pretty weak. Seriously weak now. I understand weakening it a bit. But, 60% is rough. I hit a cleric with stealthed lashing blade, deft strike, then se and took a fifth health down, no healing. If they player is geared for pvp, not much you can do.
when i read this the only thing i am left to assume is you have not even attempted to adapt yet.
not to be mean, but if you are still playing the exact same way as before you will probably have problems.
i read in another thread where a guy was crying because they needed tanks now. it just blew my mind.
you can also go read other threads on this forum where people are adapting to the changes and saying they are running these dungeons just fine. they say it was hard at first, but they made adjustments and are getting it done.
stop being so emotional about it and think analytically. you will never solve a problem by getting mad at it.
Never put any of the players down. And like i said i posted my experience after this patch, hoping in fact that there is some miniscule hope that my post might sway the devs to do something so the game doesnt IMHO die a slow death, BECAUSE even w/all its faults i stiled enjoyed llaying up until this patch...
Kwan...you and me both know...pre-patch...u ice>enfeeble>Dodge>strangle>enfeeble>dodge>Auto attack...nothing except soulforged or rogues impossible to catch can survive. Now u gotta WORK for the kill bro. Like all the other classes other than cw and tr had to for so long.....
I hope you find a new combo and way. Good luck.
I admit i havent tried to respec on my GF yet but thats b/c from the start i built to be a tank. Took all feats and enchants to be a meat shield and aggro magnet and gave up damage from the get go. So there isnt much i cando to be tankier than i already am.
I had already planned to respec my CW after patch for ma inly control and as much dmg mitigation as possible, just so no point after getting destroyed again while playing on my CW. If anything ill wait to see how this goes after a week or so then ill see what/if anything is proving to work, then spec that direction. As ive already said though finding out all your gear and enchants that youve spent alot of time/ad on are gonna need to be replaced is gonna be a hard pill to swallow....
I had alot of mobs on me all the time because i was doing what i THOUGHT my job was, get aggro so the rest dont die. Problem is not NEARLY enough heals are coming. If i dropped my block to even try and use my daily that heals id end up dead or just a hit or two from it. Even when blocking some attacks get through and knock ya prone which is a death sentence with so many mobs on ya.
Also popping pots as soon as they were off cd didnt save me. Add to the fact that we cant move out of aoe fast like other classes b/c our shift IS block which screws us again. Like i said i was looking forward to being a real tank but i was sorely dissappointed. It was no fun at all.!
it sucks when you're way out of the red and it still hits you. If you've faced a red wizard or blazing skeleton you know what i'm talking about.
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Additionally, heavy deterrents are in place with regards to TR/CW/DC stacking that did not exist before.
Great patch Cryptic!
Im GF tank build, and DC was very good to.
Used maybe 5 max pots.
And yes if DC is bad its rly hard to tank all the mobs....