test content
Logo
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc
Loot system is changing soon...
natejam101
Member Posts: 171 Arc User
Its mentioned on Twitter several times as well as the State of Game speech from a Dev. This need on everything HAMSTER is coming to end , finally.
I await the flames and soon to be rivers full of tears of these greedy ninjas
Enjoy a fair and balanced loot system :P
I await the flames and soon to be rivers full of tears of these greedy ninjas
Enjoy a fair and balanced loot system :P
ASUS P8Z68 V-Pro Gen3 mobo, Intel i7 2600k, 32gb DDR3 G-Skill Ripjaws, 500gb SSD, 2TB HDD, Geforce GTX 690 x2 Sli, 1200 watt Thermaltake modular PS, Thermaltake gaming tower.
Post edited by natejam101 on
0
Comments
[v] Only specific class can loot.
I doubt you will see many tears. They have had plenty of time to pad their wallets.
The only tears you will see is from those that didn't reach 60 fast enough to take advantage of the slow response from the developers.
- Drizzt Do'Urden
― R.A. Salvatore
I really hope this is true and the cynic in me can take a rest.
Roll need on things to stay even, be a ******bag.
Be a good guy, and lose out.
Wat do
No thats not a fair system. What if it isnt an upgrade then they get it by default. It should be roll need and it binds. Roll greed its bind on equip.
Its funny how people cant see beyond getting loot in their slot.
Or take it a step further and remove the need/greed/pass menu altogether, and hand it out to a random person in the first place.
Or you know, since the drop tables are terrible BoP would only make it that much more difficult to get your gear from the AH.
You don't deserve something simply because you are a certain class, everyone is running the dungeon to get items. If a T2 set piece drops for TR, a DC could sell it to buy theirs. If that's an issue, then join a guild where people are there to gear their friends out. You aren't owed anything when you're in a PUG.
Thanks!
Every time I hear a PW/Cryptic team member say the word soon I cringe. LOL
Soon seems to be a default time-frame than can mean anything from a day to next century. O.O
- Drizzt Do'Urden
― R.A. Salvatore
This to me has absolutely no bearing since i never PvP and play mostly solo or with one other. And I'm not alone either. In fact fair and balance only applies to PvP and that is a tiny part of this game. If you are bothered by someone elses performance in PvE you have issues outside of the net
And please shrink the size of the roll result. 3 of them block half the screen to the point you can't see what is happening, which is very bad in a hack and slash action game.
The problem with this game's "loot system" is the group leaders who don't/didn't take time out to address their party's loot setting(s) and/or notify everyone of the loot rules prior to starting up the instance run.
Stop rushing through the game folks and enjoy the ride... this isn't Crack Baby Crack Baby 123.
I'll just quote this.
Talking about purples and possibly blue here, couldn't care less about greens
I'm not sure why this isn't the default in games. Loot is already random by its very nature... simply having each item go to the next person in the list is the most fair way to do it. If people want to trade they can. The only reason a roll should be used is for items that are bound on pickup. I don't even bother rolling need on green items that are for my class, I just greed everything. Never had any problems getting gear.
Almost everyone I've seen needs on rank 4 enchantments and shards and I don't have a problem with that.
BoP wont happen cause the loot systems already balance, why? because there are other optional loot method but you need to pre build the team. and before you start accusing someone of "greedy ninja" why don't you just ask all players around you, how many advanced MMO player here does know about the "Need before Greed" systems and how many new MMO players here that never knew or maybe even never heard of that loot model.
It's also quite obvious the F2P model invites this sort of chaotic moral imbalance into play.
For many of you rolling need on loot you cannot equip and only intend to sell against a player who is rolling to equip... seems fair.
For the majority of experienced and seasoned MMO veterans it does not.
It goes against the ideology of community and role-play that is so deeply ingrained in how we play and enjoy MMO's.
I fear that many of you will completely miss the point I have made and this is the saddest element of all.
Welcome to F2P
That seems to be an assumption with no evidence to support it.
I've played MMOs for years now, but they've all been games that don't use the need/greed system and just hand out loot randomly. And it works perfectly fine as long as players are able to trade in some manner.
So yes, I'm perfectly happy just clicking need on everything (and everyone else doing the same thing) because that leads to the same end result, and that result works just fine.
This will sound strange to people who are comfortable with the little boxes they've lived in for so long, but I actually like the fact that gear wasn't bind-on-pickup in this game, as this opens up the possibility of handing off items you accidentally needed on, or making trades, or selling on the AH - in all those cases, the item goes to someone who can use it, resulting in faster overall progression for everyone, which is better than selling it as vendor trash.
As for morality, I personally question any "moral" system which obviously sets people up for anger and frustration. In the absence of BoP, the current "etiquette" is no better than all-need-all; maybe a little worse in fact, since the only people who get screwed over are the people who adhere to it.
In an ideal world, Cryptic would go back to its roots and do the random drops thing they did for their first MMO. No muss, no fuss, no drama, no worries. Not forcing people to compete for loot can do wonders for community... However, having seen how Cryptic operates these days, I suspect we'll get something that nobody's going to be happy with.
Sometimes, the greatest tragedy is getting what you asked for...
The gorilla formerly known as Kolikos
"I kinda like the act of NINJAING... pls dont take that act away... just make me able to steal 50% of the epics.
I just needed to quote this again for its awesomeness. You are my hero!
Nice! That is an elegant idea.