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gorillacherok
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 15 Arc User
I just wanted to say how much i love you guys and how easy you made my game, you see the fact is your all so stupid that u undercut each other all day that it is no longer price efficient to do any runs at all, i can pvp all day and let you noobs farm dungeons and then i just let you guys undercut each other till i get a 4mil item for 100k
so thank you for this, i am glad to see i am playing a kids game that buy ad with allowance
NEVERWINTER AH
Auction 1: 4mil
Auction 2: 3mil
Auction 3: 1mil
Auction 4: 500k
Auction 5: 200k
Auction 6: 100k
only a kid would do this, any other mmo looks like this
Auction 1: 4,000,000
Auction 2: 3,999,999
Auction 3: 3,999,998
Auction 4: 3,999,997
Auction 5: 3,999,996
Auction 6: 3,999,995
so the moral of the story is, thank you guys for being so dumb, i now can just pvp all day and let u get my gears cheaper for me
so thank you for this, i am glad to see i am playing a kids game that buy ad with allowance
NEVERWINTER AH
Auction 1: 4mil
Auction 2: 3mil
Auction 3: 1mil
Auction 4: 500k
Auction 5: 200k
Auction 6: 100k
only a kid would do this, any other mmo looks like this
Auction 1: 4,000,000
Auction 2: 3,999,999
Auction 3: 3,999,998
Auction 4: 3,999,997
Auction 5: 3,999,996
Auction 6: 3,999,995
so the moral of the story is, thank you guys for being so dumb, i now can just pvp all day and let u get my gears cheaper for me
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Welcome to economics 101.
Why in the hell would someone post something more expensive than the other items and guarantee their stuff won't sell then lose money on the posting fee.
Wow you put about 5 nanoseconds of thought into this one.
u clearly used 5 nanoseconds to your response seeing how nothing was said about posting it higher, it was visibly shown for you noobs to use 1 diamond drop and there would actually be profit
but hey who am i kidding, keep doing what you do, i didnt advise u to anything, i said thank you for being a ****, i get to do nothing but pvp and let u noobs cut each other and i get the gear cheaper than it would have cost for potions and injury kits
Now I'm a **** for undercutting.. Bwhahahahaha good stuff man, good stuff.
Let the rage flow... release it from your system... You will soon feel a feeling of extreme relaxation... When that happens, log back in and start recharging your rage meter.
If all of those auctions are up at the same time then the item isn't worth 4 mil. It's not even worth 500k.
I don't know about you, but when I see someone undercut by pennies I go for the "higher" priced listing just to spite their silliness. I would rather pay a penny more and watch them eat the listing fees for not offering truly competitive prices.
good point, a mmo with 80,000 players should only have 1 auction of a item at a time
but wait if what u said were true, then master mailsmith etc these items should all be 1 ad, seeing how there is several hundred of these type auctions
Seems to me the devs did a good job sorting out the corruption and banning players,
now we see the fruits of it, a more stable economy.
that's life mate, why do you sound angry about getting a good deal?
Uhm, it does actually look like this on the NW AH lmao. Not that it matters - it's still undercutting, no matter how big the difference between amounts. It comes down to the same thing that will make your item sell or not: luck. A buyer buying your item before someone else uc's it. Cause let's face it - every buyer is going to pick the cheapest item X on the AH, not necessarily because it's the cheapest but because it's on the top of the page aswell (convinience).
P.S. And yes, I am assuming that you are a T2 item seller because those are pretty much the only people that would get mad about this. For everyone else it's a good thing, so cheer up yo.
****. Your staggering lack of logic has nearly made your counter impenetrable. It's like you're secretly mad that your 4 mil auctions don't sell.
If you look at the AH and see 100k, 200k, 500k, 1mil, and 4mil all at the same time? 80,000 (according to you) players looked at the 100k, 200k, AND 500k price tags and said "nah, not worth it to me"
4 mil price tag on an item that won't even sell for 200k? The item isn't worth 4 mil, it's not even worth 500k.
Oh and blue profession people have a stable market because there are huge numbers for sale and they sell reasonably fast at the current price. If they didn't the price would drop.
Also for undercutting, its hard to say what stuff is really farmed by blood and sweat. I would say Castle never gear most likely keep its value for long while. But having some people over farming bosses like the spider boss (tbh i havent followed what bosses were possible to kill fast with exploits), but its only natural epic gear prices suffer. Thats also reason why so many were so eager to get wipe, as market was already inflated very early on from epics, while small % of people raked huge profits, not to mention whole AD out of thin air.
Then types like he's a seven year old on his daddy's laptop. People shouldn't be too mean though. If he's older than that, I think he might be... special.
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The market is not commoditized to standard values: items not only have different values to different buyers and sellers, but the sellers and buyers have different levels of motivation. Like the real world.
There are several ways to trade. One is to undercut by the minimum amount and constantly refresh, undercutting to get your items placed first in the queue without giving up profit. This is high maintenance as people will constantly undercut you in return. Another way is to undercut by a large enough amount to discourage people from competing. You take less profit, but you sell quicker if you can convince people to let you be first in line while they wait for a larger profit. Both forms of trading are valid and have different users to traders.
Some people blindly undercut no matter what. This lets you manipulate them into taking losses. As others have said, you can always buy out the goods and relist if you want to spend your time daytrading instead of doing other things. Of course, if you don't think it's worth your time to daytrade, then the market is probably working: you consider the error in the market pricing to be too small to make a profit.
People have every right to undercut you. If you don't like it then buy their items and relist them
Oh and calling people kids for undercutting says a lot more about you
I think my birth year of 1974 and that big fat college degree i used to get my large paycheck, what you call "allowance", may disagree with you.
So what if i undercut? Oh boy do i undercut. I'm talking big time undercutting. I do it to sell. Don't like it? Tough titty son.
Buy it from me and resell it higher.
Give it some time for supply to increase and you'll get your wish
Someone doesn't understand economics. Do you know why prices have dropped so low? It's not that people are undercutting by extreme prices. Look at epics that go for 8,000 astral diamonds. You will see that some are 8000, others are 7,999 just as you said. They didn't get this low because people are undercutting by a stupid degree. They got this low because there's more supply than demand. I'll help you out since you've been so "kind" to get the truth out there.
Check out this link..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand
the problem is, most of these items were created through cheesing and exploits...t2 bosses - if you do em right - are insanly hard, thats why prices on some items are rather increasing...especially if that class has only 1 viable set
"Hi. I'm really upset because you people are killing my overpriced auctions and attempts to gouge other players out of their AD. Please stop being reasonable in your auctions."
My answer to you sir and your request to not undercut...um...no, I will not. I actually take great pleasure in undercutting those overpriced auctions.
I feel like only Frozen Heart has questionable tuning at this point. Spell Plague and Karrundax are reasonably easy once you actually make it to the last bosses. I have yet to try the new Temple of the Spider but it doesn't sound too bad, except maybe harder for a double DC group.
Ah good undercutting is how to do just fine on the market. If I saw this and wanted to post my item I would post if for 2.5 Million Always I undercut and make good money in AH's.
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I always hated when I saw this in WoW. I would always make sure to buy the more expensive one, rather than the "I undercut by 1c!" HAMSTER.
And yeah, when I posted stuff there, I always undercut by an appreciable amount - either enough to make sure my sale went through fast (where things were a "regular" price) or with a huge undercut when I thought that the price had been manipulated up to something absurd (like when pvp twinkers had X9 green lowbie gear on the AH for hundreds of gold, when it shouldn't have been more than 5-10.)
Unlikely, not taking GWF to events + those items not actually dropping from bosses = no chest generated pieces = they're extremely rare.
I ended up buying my hands after going 0/54 on Karrundax and never seeing anything but BoP, CW, or DC gear drop from the bosses. I did get plenty of the other T2 sets though, only problem is that unlike TR (whose sets are generally the same with different 4p bonuses) our sets are HAMSTER/HAMSTER/kind of ok