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Knock backs on dungeon mobs is NOT an exploit.
monarrch
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 164 Bounty Hunter
1. Almost every dungeon has cliffs, ledges, sludge pits with no walls to stop you or mobs from being hurled into them. They have high walk ways and ramps with no rails to stop you from falling off with mobs in the middle of them. Now you don't think this is by design?!
2. Several of the boss fights are specifically made for pushing mass groups of mobs into poison lakes, fire or sludge pits, A'Drx'l the Aboleth Overseer anyone? You cannot push bosses or cc them however. You think this isn't by design.
3. You think knock backs were only meant for PVP?
I like personally like to put up Singularity near a ledge IF it is available or feasible, pull the mobs to it the push them off the ledge to their deaths but this is simply using your skills wisely. How is that an exploit? This e mobs, the ones that have knock backs, can just as easily send me flying to my death as well, and they have.
It is so self evident that the devs designed these dungeons with the intent to allow players to use all of their abilities to some extent is a good thing. Yet some of you, because it gives players some kind of advantage on some of these encounters, it has to be an exploit? Really?
Bet the devs won't do a thing because it was designed that way. Bet.
2. Several of the boss fights are specifically made for pushing mass groups of mobs into poison lakes, fire or sludge pits, A'Drx'l the Aboleth Overseer anyone? You cannot push bosses or cc them however. You think this isn't by design.
3. You think knock backs were only meant for PVP?
I like personally like to put up Singularity near a ledge IF it is available or feasible, pull the mobs to it the push them off the ledge to their deaths but this is simply using your skills wisely. How is that an exploit? This e mobs, the ones that have knock backs, can just as easily send me flying to my death as well, and they have.
It is so self evident that the devs designed these dungeons with the intent to allow players to use all of their abilities to some extent is a good thing. Yet some of you, because it gives players some kind of advantage on some of these encounters, it has to be an exploit? Really?
Bet the devs won't do a thing because it was designed that way. Bet.
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+1 This.
I only started knocking mobs off cliffs after the 3rd or 4th time I had it happen to me. There is no way (out side of spending money on a res scroll) for a party member to raise a character that's been thrown off the cliff to their deaths. - Beat the mobs to it, throw them off and see how they like it! It's an intelligent tactic, just the same as a dwarf hiding behind a half-orc as to be harder to target.
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Fair enough.
It is very tedious. I really think all the trash mobs should be cut by a bit to be honest, especially if they stopped the mass knock backs.
Luring enemies from a room back down a corridor to a pit, just so you can knock them into it, however does come across as rather cheesy and exploitative of the AI.
So it really is context-specific.
So they should change this to either just damage mobs for a set amount, and/or delay mobs, like knocking them off a wall would let em jump back up.
Mainly because it pretty much invalidates a whole class lol.
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Which would then make CW useless since a large population of the larger mobs are immune to chill. So if 90% of mobs are immune to knockbacks and chill they wouldn't leave CW much to do.
I still consider it good use of tactics and environmental awareness. I am always looking for narrow tunnel ways to bottom the mobs up so AOE hits more or ledges or traps to run them thru on solo missions.
No that would be tactics, WoW has really brainwashed everyone who has ever played an MMO into thinking that if you use tactics or traps in any way, or engage a monster doing anything other than face tanking it you are cheating. If it was a problem they'd put the mobs on tiny *** leashes or make them "evade" out like WoW did. This game leaves room for tactics and alternate methods for fighting instead of funneling you into one way of doing everything. A sad number of complaints on these forums stem from WoW expectation and brainwashing since that is all many of these players know.
As far as making GWFs useless in a group with CWs... If a CW lets the GWF know ahead of time, they agree on the tactic, and they know the CW is taking care of non-controllable adds in general then there shouldn't be any issues. Lets the GWF focus on the non-controllable ones and protect the cleric.
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However it would be super awesome if we could get an official word on this because I am sick of everyone being so paranoid all the time.
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Can believe it is if people are somehow knocking them through walls.
people keep talking about spellplague you can actually 3 man it if you have a competent wizard i am not sure this is itended