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nocturnalnemesis
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All I can say is what a joke, you take the server offline, steal all my celestial coins on all 3 of my characters ( On the same account of course which I bought with ZEN ) Take the auction house offline which I was currently trying to bid on the only item I needed left in the AH "Gemmed Exquisite Pants" which had 4 hours remaining for a steal of a deal at 220,000 AD as a LEGIT player you have completely SCREWED me, this past couple days of playing have been torture, from waiting for a single hour ETA to a delayed 7+ hours until I finally gave up hope, then to log on the next day missing my chance at obtaining my coalescent wards they are all gone, auction house is down, re rolled 7 hours to where I stayed up till 6:30 AM for nothing, I feel like as a legit player I was robbed and you did nothing to beg and scrape to say "SORRY OUR APOLOGIES" WE will reward everyone with something for their losses. Well, your reward was just junk, to a level 60 who no longer requires EXP or some useless Cat Cape and Dwarven Mask of uselessness, I have already paid atleast 100$ and to be honest, I doubt I will be spending another penny unless compensated for such a complete and utter waste of my time.
A very angry paying customer,
Nemesis
A very angry paying customer,
Nemesis
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The box of useless junk can be looked at as a parting gift for the mass exodus this game is witnessing as we speak.
Quote Originally Posted by roents
It's an "open beta" that can't be wiped even in the midst of multiple economy destroying exploits. FUN
Neverwinter is currently in Open Beta with bugs, game imbalances, roll-backs, etc to be expected. You should adjust your expectations when you are testing a beta product...
My opinion is mixed, The Caturday pack is a nice gesture and similar to what I was expecting. To be honest with you the reward is only for a 7 hour rollback, which isn't all that and pretty mild as far some of the other rollbacks I've seen in other MMOS. To be entirely fair it would be irresponsible to flood the game with amazing stuff, and truthfully it's kind of amazing how this rollback seems to have coincidently affected the most amazing 7 hours of gameplay that every player has experienced in any MMO to date. To be fair it's impossible to really evaluate who lost what during the rollback, and you can't fairly assign value to "chances" of having obtained things like wards or an auction (4 hours is kind of a long time, the person putting up the auction could have taken it down, and there might very well have been a price-sniping war at the finish line).
I do tend to agree that they should have considered making some of the items more useful, my big problem is with the Cat Cape itself which isn't even really usable at low levels by newbie characters due to it going in a regular item slot and having no stats. The mask is cool, and is a neat social item. The 50 shot health stone is a nice thing to have since that's a full heal 50 times. IMO the cape itself should have been a leveling item that improves it's stats with the wearer's level like some of the armor in STO (also made by Cryptic) so Caturday survivors could display their cat cape throughout their career without gimping themselves terribly if they so chose. Either that or it should have been attached to a body social item so you could wear it with the mask via your social tab.
My actual problem with the situation is that Cryptic/PWE hasn't really done much to address the central problem of all of the stuff in the economy, nor do they seem to have considered that the problem goes back further than the 7 hours that they rolled back, as evidenced by the farmers who were selling Astral Diamonds at a million per $12 before the actual "Catastrophe". Nor does it appear that the cats and other ill gotten loots obtained with the hacked diamonds have been removed from the game, allowing many of the exploiters to benefit from these events. Their philosophy seems to be that the economy will straighten itself out over time, when in reality that isn't going to be the case, I have a feeling Neverwinter will be feeling the effects of this for a very long time to come.
I am at a complete loss as to why people feel so entitled that getting something for free in a game they don't have to pay for is not good enough for them.
I dont understand why people dont realize this. No real money was lost, everything bought for with real money is still there or the money is there.
Anyway the pack was insulting, especially as a level 60, so guess I'll try not to let the door hit me on the way out...And you will ask why I am still even posting, it is because I was did want to this game to succeed; I loved the combat so much and had friends playing, but they have left.
Although one final and serious point, if they got rid of righteousness (40% self healing debuff for clerics). At least for max level pve, it is ridiculous and trying to make clerics have to use potions, well we have to use hearthstones to even survive whatever, pots do HAMSTER, soo yeaah.
They did not "steal" all of your Celestial coins. Did they handle the situation perfectly? No, but name me a company running an MMO that has handled a serious issue flawlessly according to every single member of the community. They could have done loads better, but they could have done an incredible deal worse. Missing out on a few daily rewards that cost literally nothing but 10 seconds of your time is kinda silly to whine about. It is unfortunate that they did not freeze the coins in place (although that might have messed with their planned reset) or remove the timer altogether, but they didn't. Unfortunate, but not earthshatteringly terrible.
THEY did not screw you. Those that took advantage of an incredibly seriously exploit that, arguably, should not have existed in the first place, screwed you and the rest of the community over. But hey, guess what? They also screwed Cryptic over. Was it their plan to have the game down for so many hours while they scrambled to fix the problem? No. Would they have preferred the servers be up in an hour or, ideally, not have gone down at all? You betcha. It's a shame that you missed out on some good deals, but those deals are probably not once in a lifetime.
Again, this is a non-issue. It is incredibly unfortunate that it happened to you, but it also happened to everyone else as well. Everyone is dealing with the fallout due to the server resets but to get so angry at the wrong party is just silly.
So what you wanted them to do was created a series of tiered rewards that match the level of each character while still being fair to the playerbase as a whole. Levels 1-10 get rewards that cater to them while level 60 gets rewards tiered directly to them. Do you realize how impossible that is? They gave items, which they did not have to give at all, that were fair and balanced for all parties involved. Do you get the benefit of every single one? No, but you shouldn't just because you are a higher level than the bulk of the population. Game companies and MMOs get serious backlash when they favor one group of players over another.
Good on you for supporting a company that deserves it because they made a solid, enjoyable game. Bad on you for punishing them for something they did not even ask for. You shouldn't be demanding perfection or special treatment just because you put in a few dollars more than the next player. You decided, of your own accord, to donate and support a game that you liked. Do you want a shrine built in your honor in addition to the benefits you got from spending your "hardearned real monies"?
People like you are the reason online game communities have a hard time being taken seriously and, in general, are seen as toxic. Take a step back from your pedastal before you insult the devs of a game that deserves better than this.
This is no longer open beta and people are spending their IRL money , so learn your facts before you go and post.
I knew having these "founder" packs was another way for a company to money grab on a license. Great game but the nickel and diming of customers are sickening.
Thank you for your long response, I read about half of it and skimmed the rest, I understand what you are saying these folks owe us nothing, Well enough said I did support this company, and with a SLAP in the face like the gift the gave out I will no longer spend anything. I do not think the exploit was the fault of Cryptic but they could of Handled this situation a lot better then affecting EVERYONE who plays and you make only think that was a 7 Hour Rollback, but the servers were also off for 12-14 Hours + 7 Hour rollback meant that all my celestial coins disappeared, all those coins were a chance at a 140,000 AD Ward or a 10.00$ Zen Reward, now I have 3 characters and that is 140,000 AD x 3 or 10.00$ x 3 Your choice at what currency you feel cheated on, this is bollocks and I wont pay anymore money to a service who doesn't support their own customers when they have been wronged. Nuff said.
The word 'beta' in this case would not hold up in court if a legitimate case was brought up against them and they tried to defend themselves with it. It's open to anyone that wants to play, there are going to be no wipes, and they are making money off the game. This is not a 'beta'.
Additionally the Caturday pack is rather pathetic, yes. First of all, the cape is completely useless and even if it weren't, capes are inherently buggy in and of themselves, frequently clipping into your pelvis. What about Tieflings as well? We can't very well wear capes with our tails without it looking completely ridiculous and wrong.
Honestly, we've defended Cryptic in the past and generally said 'tut-tut' to the whiners, but Cryptic is very quickly making us rethink our stance.
This bug was inexcusable and screams of unprofessionalism for the simple fact that it wasn't caught before it went viral or before it was even live.
We are definitely disappointed with everything in general from Cryptic lately.
Edit ; apparently a light word was muted, changed to a more appropiate word.
-Nemesis
they lost out on something. Their dignity the second they gave Perfect World a dollar.
You're missing the big picture.... don't like it, DON'T play, what is anyone accomplishing by whining? It's easy to quit an MMO, log in, hit delete character, and never visit the site again.... see, easy as pie, I've done so for MMOs I've grown to hate, It's a helluva lot more productive than whining, and making jackasses of yourselves on the forums.
Everyone seems to think this is still BETA it was announced in the news that with great success Neverwinter is LIVE! Definitely thought to start contributing to such a wonderful game and a company but when they turn around and punish all of us legit players and STILL haven't banned people buying/selling cats in-game I am pretty upset, oh but Happy Caturday hope you enjoy your useless Crate of junk.
-Nemesis
I don't think Ive made a (name from mrz1mmers post) of myself at all, I simply wanted to see if everyone else felt like this pack was a god dang joke.
Editted for language.
You guys must not read, 7 Hour Rollback + 14 Hour downtime = No Celestial Coins are you HAMSTER or do I have to do the math 18 times?