That is, unless they bought the hero of the north or founders pack.
Each person who did that gets 600,000AD on startup for HotN, and Founder pack gets 2,000,000AD
He actually mentioned those in his post, though it might have been edited in later. Kinda pointless though as the person he was responding to claimed to have had 10 million. You only can get that much by playing the AH. And if you were its more than likely that at least some of your AD came from tainted sources.
Rofl I totally agree with this. I'm not sure if they have this vision of people having meetings in the VIP room or what, but they could at least have some fan dancers or something. Or a money tree.
stop saying it is free to play its not its a f2lwsep game
free to leach while someone else pays.....
Don't you just love the nerve of leechers? They are the first ones to pontificate at the paying players for wanting their money's worth. We pay for them to have a free game & they tell us to chill out & stop QQing. Irks me to no end.
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rodnilaxMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 3Arc User
HOW did you get 10,000,000 AD in just 20 days? That's IMPOSSIBLE. Period. You can only process 24,000 AD a DAY legitimately, so by my math, ANYONE with over 500,000 of AD is suspicious. Of course, those who bought the 2 Mil AD pack are exempt, but even they would be hard pressed to come up with more than 3,000,000 AD (assuming they spent NONE of it) in just 20 days.
You are a sad sad little man, allow me to explain how you can make a lot of AD. You can only REFINE 24k AD made per day in quests, that does NOT mean you can only earn 24k a day.
Read the following:
Buy a $40 zen card. Sell the Zen at 370 each. that's 1.48 million AD. then you take and BUY zen when the market dips to 350 each. well now you have 4228 AD, so you sell it back out at 360 well that's 1,522,080 AD. that's a profit of 42k AD. I have a friend that strictly does this and has made over 3m AD from the 600k he got from the founders pack and hasn't spent anymore money than the initial $60.
Its basically a stock market...but there is only one company to buy into.
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falson1Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 135Bounty Hunter
He actually mentioned those in his post, though it might have been edited in later. Kinda pointless though as the person he was responding to claimed to have had 10 million. You only can get that much by playing the AH. And if you were its more than likely that at least some of your AD came from tainted sources.
As we have no way of knowing which item is tainted and which is not, that really does not matter. What matters is the people who actually cheated on purpose.
Also, I laugh hard at anyone who says "it's not the developer's fault....I know, I've worked in the industry.....etc etc".
Sorry folks, but it IS the developer's fault. It's their game. Take responsibility for YOUR actions, as I'm sure the developers are going to take responsibility for this one on their part. Just remember that the developers are quite happily using the internet as their test bed for fault finding.....so please save your sympathy.
1. Thank you for making my day.
2. You mean I could have been watching this video for the past how many years and I'm just seeing it now for the first time.
I feel cheated
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ikronianMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 1Arc User
edited May 2013
I don't blame the developers, I blame those who try to duplicate the ADs and go against the user agreement. It's a free to play game and guess what it's in Open Beta. Things like this will happen. If you are flipping out because the game is down... you may have an issue. (trust me, I fully realize that it is the weekend, I have to be up quite early on Monday and get to work too)
So the lesson learned? Don't try and cheat. You will end up making it worse for everyone.
Also, I laugh hard at anyone who says "it's not the developer's fault....I know, I've worked in the industry.....etc etc".
Sorry folks, but it IS the developer's fault. It's their game. Take responsibility for YOUR actions, as I'm sure the developers are going to take responsibility for this one on their part. Just remember that the developers are quite happily using the internet as their test bed for fault finding.....so please save your sympathy.
I think your mistake is that you're using developer in the correct sense of the word, while everyone else is using it to denote the programmers at Cryptic. It's not (just) the programmers fault, it's the fault of the entire development house (or at least the part that's involved with making this).
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purpleorbesMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Silverstars, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 186Bounty Hunter
edited May 2013
Many people have said to have an option to go to a shard made specifically for this after what has happened but what about when someone exploits that shard? It would happen, Its not a matter of if but when. This is a now win situation. Luckily for me I like the games content and am not too worried about the games economy or the auction house, thats just a added bonus . As long as I can go to a dungeon and get cool gear im fine.
He actually mentioned those in his post, though it might have been edited in later. Kinda pointless though as the person he was responding to claimed to have had 10 million. You only can get that much by playing the AH. And if you were its more than likely that at least some of your AD came from tainted sources.
A lot.. a LOT less than more if those items being sold weren't end game uber rares. If it was cash shop items and end game gear, ya... you probably were benefiting from an inflated market. Non end game was pretty GD stable... when you could sort through the 400 items that werent buyout, lmao.
Also, I laugh hard at anyone who says "it's not the developer's fault....I know, I've worked in the industry.....etc etc".
Sorry folks, but it IS the developer's fault...
I wouldn't take that stance normally. But the fact that people are claiming it was reported in closed beta. People are posting old screenshots of STO with the same bug. And others are saying it was in CO as well. That has me kind of disappointed and wondering what exactly caused this.
improbably yes impossible no. If you spend time trading on the AH you can amass a large sum of AD simply by reposting items that were way under market value. It isn't about how much you process yourself. You could also have used the AD/Zen trade and bought keys or other items from the cash shop that have a much greater AD value than zen value because so many people were and still are oblivious to this feature.
***Sorry this was in reply to the post regarding someone legitimately making 20 million AD in 20 days.
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helenisdesMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 2Arc User
Unless they own a laptop and work from home and the kiddo's just knocked their coffee on the thing and blasted our entire economy...ban the kiddo's, it's their fault...or maybe get a bigger coffee mug...
I don't blame the developers, I blame those who try to duplicate the ADs and go against the user agreement. It's a free to play game and guess what it's in Open Beta. Things like this will happen. If you are flipping out because the game is down... you may have an issue. (trust me, I fully realize that it is the weekend, I have to be up quite early on Monday and get to work too)
So the lesson learned? Don't try and cheat. You will end up making it worse for everyone.
unfortunately, the ones that ruin it for everyone probably don't give a HAMSTER about anyone else
stop crying over the game it will be back when it back
i know real life is hard for some of you but deal with it
let them work and dry your tears
Life Goes On
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astalion2kMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 4Arc User
edited May 2013
My apologies for being so bold to ask you guys, if you plan on making a server-rollback or wipe now or in the future, will you re-imburse used up respecc tokens for those of us who plays the game honestly and have used it up already?, (both the founders pack, and non founders one`s), and if you also planned on giving back the amount of Promo AD`s that has been spent from the founders pack?, thanks in advance for some clues/answers, would be most appreciated, wish you all the best of luck both in the game and real-life (devs and gamers alike, cya in the game later)
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He actually mentioned those in his post, though it might have been edited in later. Kinda pointless though as the person he was responding to claimed to have had 10 million. You only can get that much by playing the AH. And if you were its more than likely that at least some of your AD came from tainted sources.
China gold sellers send "kiss" to NW players
I would love a subscription server for this game.
Because people found a way to print money, thus taking it out of PWs hands.
Agreed. I seriously and starting to miss the days of subscription games.
I second this!
eh, let em go. don't try to stop babies from leaving an adult world.
Don't you just love the nerve of leechers? They are the first ones to pontificate at the paying players for wanting their money's worth. We pay for them to have a free game & they tell us to chill out & stop QQing. Irks me to no end.
You are a sad sad little man, allow me to explain how you can make a lot of AD. You can only REFINE 24k AD made per day in quests, that does NOT mean you can only earn 24k a day.
Read the following:
Buy a $40 zen card. Sell the Zen at 370 each. that's 1.48 million AD. then you take and BUY zen when the market dips to 350 each. well now you have 4228 AD, so you sell it back out at 360 well that's 1,522,080 AD. that's a profit of 42k AD. I have a friend that strictly does this and has made over 3m AD from the 600k he got from the founders pack and hasn't spent anymore money than the initial $60.
Its basically a stock market...but there is only one company to buy into.
As we have no way of knowing which item is tainted and which is not, that really does not matter. What matters is the people who actually cheated on purpose.
The Best QA Environment ever; PRODUCTION
wow, I've seen some trolls in my day, but you are one sophisticated troll, for sure..
Two things:
1. Thank you for making my day.
2. You mean I could have been watching this video for the past how many years and I'm just seeing it now for the first time.
I feel cheated
So the lesson learned? Don't try and cheat. You will end up making it worse for everyone.
I think your mistake is that you're using developer in the correct sense of the word, while everyone else is using it to denote the programmers at Cryptic. It's not (just) the programmers fault, it's the fault of the entire development house (or at least the part that's involved with making this).
A lot.. a LOT less than more if those items being sold weren't end game uber rares. If it was cash shop items and end game gear, ya... you probably were benefiting from an inflated market. Non end game was pretty GD stable... when you could sort through the 400 items that werent buyout, lmao.
It is that we all go to bed or get more popcorn.
Wait.... forgot to confirm this plan of action....
no like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIHZr_FKb5I
I wouldn't take that stance normally. But the fact that people are claiming it was reported in closed beta. People are posting old screenshots of STO with the same bug. And others are saying it was in CO as well. That has me kind of disappointed and wondering what exactly caused this.
***Sorry this was in reply to the post regarding someone legitimately making 20 million AD in 20 days.
.... Or one with a lid
unfortunately, the ones that ruin it for everyone probably don't give a HAMSTER about anyone else
i know real life is hard for some of you but deal with it
let them work and dry your tears
Life Goes On
I wonder how many MBA types are approving the communication before they are allowed to post it...