i didnt make this list but its true. We need a wipe. Let me fill you in on all the exploits and when we found them.
1 - ah exploit - this is what all the current fuss is about. Too bad it was discovered and reported in closed beta, only to still make it in. Through this exploit one can earn unlimited ad and simply clean out the ad vendors, as well as buy up all the zen they wanted. I knew about it and reported it on the day that i logged in. My ticket was closed and marked as resolved. Upon reading it further, i noticed that a gm told me the ticket was lost and to resubmit it. I did and kept playing. The second ticket was closed and "lost again". So i gave up reporting it.
2 - quest sharing exploit - this allowed you to reach level 60 in about an hour of playing. It also allowed people to farm unlimited bags, assets, and materials. It was discovered and reported in closed beta, but still made it in to the open beta. Once again, i made a ticket about it only to have it closed. My follow up ticket was also closed.
3 - foundry bugs - were used to gain max level and farm gear. Although i knew about this bug, i did not report it because i thought the other two were more important.
4 - the cw set bonus bug allowing them to hit for millions points of damage. This was a very minor bug, but it still allowed a team of two or more cw's to farm end game content. I did not know about this bug, but plenty of people in my guild did.
5 - the gf set bug - yet another set bug that allowed the gf to almost instantly kill any mob in the game. A lot more consistent than the cw set bug, and caused a lot of damage to the economy. I knew about this a few days into the game, but decided not to report it since my other tickets kept being closed and "lost".
6 - chest farming exploits - these are still in the game and allow people to farm easy money, as well as gear and ingredients.
7 - there is already a bot out for neverwinter that members of tault unleashed have been using. Currently it can be made to level or exploit chests. They are working on having it take care of professions and auto pray for you as well.
8 - tr dc bug - this was used mostly in pvp to instantly disconnect anyone the tr targeted with certain abilities. It allowed all tr groups to quickly win matches in the least amount of time possible.
9 - potion exploit - basically you can have unlimited healing potions - not much of an exploit since you can accomplish the same thing easier by using any other ad earning exploit and buying potions.
10 - autohotkey - macro software that allows you to easily max your crafting.
11 - afk pvp groups - creating a few accounts and making an afk group (managed by autohotkey or the viper bot), you can quickly earn xp and gear while you sleep.
12 - their support site has not worked since launch. That's right, you can't even request a refund or report bugs through that thing! It gets stuck in an infinite loop after you log in to submit a ticket.
i agreee this game need to be wipe asap , c`mon gm use your brain you wanna game this destroy?
You must thinking fast gm this the right time to wipe .. If anyone buy zhen just put in new char again simple
i didnt make this list but its true. we need a wipe. Let me fill you in on ALL the exploits and when we found them.
1 - AH exploit - This is what all the current fuss is about. Too bad it was discovered and reported in closed beta, only to still make it in. Through this exploit one can earn unlimited AD and simply clean out the AD vendors, as well as buy up all the Zen they wanted. I knew about it and reported it on the day that I logged in. My ticket was closed and marked as resolved. Upon reading it further, I noticed that a GM told me the ticket was lost and to resubmit it. I did and kept playing. The second ticket was closed and "lost again". So I gave up reporting it.
2 - Quest sharing exploit - This allowed you to reach level 60 in about an hour of playing. It also allowed people to farm unlimited bags, assets, and materials. It was discovered and reported in closed beta, but still made it in to the open beta. Once again, I made a ticket about it only to have it closed. My follow up ticket was also closed.
3 - Foundry bugs - Were used to gain max level and farm gear. Although I knew about this bug, I did not report it because I thought the other two were more important.
4 - The CW set bonus bug allowing them to hit for millions points of damage. This was a very minor bug, but it still allowed a team of two or more CW's to farm end game content. I did not know about this bug, but plenty of people in my guild did.
5 - The GF set bug - Yet another set bug that allowed the GF to almost instantly kill any mob in the game. A lot more consistent than the CW set bug, and caused a lot of damage to the economy. I knew about this a few days into the game, but decided not to report it since my other tickets kept being closed and "lost".
6 - Chest farming exploits - These are still in the game and allow people to farm easy money, as well as gear and ingredients.
7 - There is already a bot out for Neverwinter that members of Tault Unleashed have been using. Currently it can be made to level or exploit chests. They are working on having it take care of professions and auto pray for you as well.
8 - TR DC bug - this was used mostly in PvP to instantly disconnect anyone the TR targeted with certain abilities. It allowed all TR groups to quickly win matches in the least amount of time possible.
9 - Potion exploit - Basically you can have unlimited healing potions - not much of an exploit since you can accomplish the same thing easier by using any other AD earning exploit and buying potions.
10 - AutoHotkey - Macro software that allows you to easily max your crafting.
11 - AFK PvP groups - creating a few accounts and making an AFK group (managed by AutoHotkey or the Viper bot), you can quickly earn XP and gear while you sleep.
12 - Their support site has not worked since launch. That's right, you can't even request a refund or report bugs through that thing! it gets stuck in an infinite loop after you log in to submit a ticket.
What a mess this is turning out to be. Justifies my decision on why one never ever puts money into something like this AND also why a game should Never Ever have payments in a beta stage.
Flaws like this is the reason why after the end of beta the servers are actually wiped clean, it is also a set point as to what will happen, but the
This is the new and improved Beta, no wipes here. Guess that sorta makes it live then doesn't it Game developers are doing it as a way to fund the development costs because they basically suck as a company and can't do it otherwise. Nobody is lining up at their door to throw money into something that will probably fail before it ever launches. There has been too many to count over the last few years. It's sad what the MMO world has turned into.
First helpful post I've seen today. I'd say the Gods are the root cause. They saw the greedy way that some magicians were manipulating the market and cast a curse on everyone. They are going to relive their days over and over and learn the futility of seeking wealth.
Ooh, I like that idea. Punishment straight from the Gods, very nice... I may go with that for my cleric character, since she's very religious.
There is a lot to be said for those who find a way to exploit an in game currency and none of it is good in all honesty if you bought AD from a third party then any actions taken by PW have been earned as well as getting them via a bug. Just my opinion
There is likely no way to fix the bloated economy as the AD have pervaded too many transactions. Don't wipe, but open a new server for people who want a more stable economy and reverse the Zen transactions for people who want to go there.
Why are so many people convinced that a wipe is the only solution? That sounds like a knee-jerk reaction. If your arm is mangled by a wild animal do you have to amputate? Possibly, but let the surgeon make that decision, not the butcher.
This, you guys are freaking out and getting overly emotional.
I've played over 500 games, and hell, I remember when game-breaking bugs were a daily occurrence in vanilla WoW.
Stuff has happened time and time and time again, and they have been fixed. It's an error. Give it time and let them fix it. If it's not fixed in a day or two, then you come back with pitchforks and demand your money back.
Not after a couple hours, ON A SUNDAY, after the exploit exploded the auction house.
My knowledge of programming, i'm pretty sure they have to CODE the FIX first, before they can actually FIX it.
(I feel like i'm in blizzard or bioware's forums right now, seriously guys.)
Hi guys i used the bug!!!!!! I didn't wanna spend zen on Astral Diamonds so i used it!!! I got all my friends to use it as well then we made new accounts and gave astral diamonds to other accounts IT WAS AMAZING!!!!! I then told more friends about it and they did the same this is awesome!!!! If you guys want some astral diamonds msg me they cant ban all my accounts, or my friends accounts or theres.
um yes they can they know when your toon wet his pants when a lvl 50 ogre breathed on him so if they so choose and I hope they do they will ban those accounts as well your on the list
Are you really this F'N stupid? Or can you just not read.
Not only was in reported in CB, it was reported repeatedly and ignored.
And the same thing already happened in the STO game - so there is no excuse.
Can you get your fanboi hands off PWE's skrotum long enough to know anything?
So your answer is to exploit it, exploit it, exploit it because it was not fixed to your satisfaction or at all? Report it and leave it alone. the very fact that we as users now have to wait because someone decided that making public an exploit of this nature would be cool and such that we as user now have to wait for PWE to fix it. Your logic is terrible.
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thalackallaMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 5Arc User
By your reasoning, then, the closed betas of pretty much every PWE game was actually Live.
I can't help but think you're a sockpuppet of aeonaheart, with your... "interesting" definition of "open beta." (Hint: open beta has to do with bugtesting, not money.)
Only Sock Puppet around here is the one in your bed.
ok, Back to topic.
As this game has only been live for a little while, a Full Wipe is the Best way to resolve this issue.
All of the "exploits" like 150k Guild bank tabs, AHAD, and other items that were resolved would also be "fixed" and result in a better, more stable, and enjoyable game For the Long Term.
I fully expect that if this option were taken, that the Original AD and all Zen purchases through the Zen Store Would be refunded.
Would I buy that worthless “healer companion that does not heal” for 2000 Zen, No Frigging Way!
I Would take all the knowledge from my past experience and correct some of the mistakes that I have made and I (myself) would be better off in my Gaming, Toon, and Skill in game.
Would I be sad that I 'lost' my 32, 24, 28, 19, 19, 14, 4 (vender Mule)and 4 level characters? Yes.
Would I be sad that I 'lost' my 13 level profession with my 2 grape and 9 or so Blue minions? Yes.
However, the game would be better. And I would enjoy my playing experience more making the value of my $450 in Zen purchases even more worthwhile to me.
So they're basically going to give all their beta testers months and months of advantage over new players when it launches? That doesn't make sense.
What *would* make sense is to do a full wipe, give the founder pack buyers a few days head start and their loot, and refund everyone's zen back to their accounts to respend. Founders and zen purchasers get what they paid for and the playing field is level again.
Question: How will you distinguish the "final launch" from the game now? What will be any different?
Answer: You won't because nothing will be different. This IS the launch. LOL
I've played over 500 games, and hell, I remember when game-breaking bugs were a daily occurrence in vanilla WoW.
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dakxerMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 24Arc User
edited May 2013
Well, the forums have been entertaining, so thanks all for posting
I put this at about 7 hours, so I hope that is due to the fact they have fixed the bug and are now going through logs to catch the cheaters. I'm willing to lose a night of gameplay if at least "some" of the people responsible are dealt with. I expect some "accidental" people getting hit with the Ban hammer too, that happens. So to those people that are inconvenienced (please don't let it be me! lol), just remember, the people who caused this problem are the people who cheated and those that found out and didn't report it until now...not the Devs. Best of luck! g'night.
SteakHolders?? people with money or something....that should not be what the game depends on to get goin...**** the AH and take it off line and then fix it wile they ley peeps do q's or work on foundry ****
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i agreee this game need to be wipe asap , c`mon gm use your brain you wanna game this destroy?
You must thinking fast gm this the right time to wipe .. If anyone buy zhen just put in new char again simple
If this is true, this is borderline criminal.
This is the new and improved Beta, no wipes here. Guess that sorta makes it live then doesn't it
Heh...
Ooh, I like that idea. Punishment straight from the Gods, very nice... I may go with that for my cleric character, since she's very religious.
"you're" or "you are". Now, who is the idiot?
your meme is bad and you should feel bad!
This, you guys are freaking out and getting overly emotional.
I've played over 500 games, and hell, I remember when game-breaking bugs were a daily occurrence in vanilla WoW.
Stuff has happened time and time and time again, and they have been fixed. It's an error. Give it time and let them fix it. If it's not fixed in a day or two, then you come back with pitchforks and demand your money back.
Not after a couple hours, ON A SUNDAY, after the exploit exploded the auction house.
My knowledge of programming, i'm pretty sure they have to CODE the FIX first, before they can actually FIX it.
(I feel like i'm in blizzard or bioware's forums right now, seriously guys.)
Just chillax, things will get fixed.
um yes they can they know when your toon wet his pants when a lvl 50 ogre breathed on him so if they so choose and I hope they do they will ban those accounts as well your on the list
Finally . . . an issue more important than this silly little exploit business.
In the User CP, look on the left for "Permission Groups". Click on that then select the title you wish to display
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
You win the internet.
So your answer is to exploit it, exploit it, exploit it because it was not fixed to your satisfaction or at all? Report it and leave it alone. the very fact that we as users now have to wait because someone decided that making public an exploit of this nature would be cool and such that we as user now have to wait for PWE to fix it. Your logic is terrible.
Only Sock Puppet around here is the one in your bed.
ok, Back to topic.
As this game has only been live for a little while, a Full Wipe is the Best way to resolve this issue.
All of the "exploits" like 150k Guild bank tabs, AHAD, and other items that were resolved would also be "fixed" and result in a better, more stable, and enjoyable game For the Long Term.
I fully expect that if this option were taken, that the Original AD and all Zen purchases through the Zen Store Would be refunded.
Would I buy that worthless “healer companion that does not heal” for 2000 Zen, No Frigging Way!
I Would take all the knowledge from my past experience and correct some of the mistakes that I have made and I (myself) would be better off in my Gaming, Toon, and Skill in game.
Would I be sad that I 'lost' my 32, 24, 28, 19, 19, 14, 4 (vender Mule)and 4 level characters? Yes.
Would I be sad that I 'lost' my 13 level profession with my 2 grape and 9 or so Blue minions? Yes.
However, the game would be better. And I would enjoy my playing experience more making the value of my $450 in Zen purchases even more worthwhile to me.
...and yes, I drive a spider.
Answer: You won't because nothing will be different. This IS the launch. LOL
No one will be losing Astral Diamonds from their founders pack.
Yeah... I work at PWE's offices, and next time I go down to Cryptic's offices, I'm bringing a cake.
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I put this at about 7 hours, so I hope that is due to the fact they have fixed the bug and are now going through logs to catch the cheaters. I'm willing to lose a night of gameplay if at least "some" of the people responsible are dealt with. I expect some "accidental" people getting hit with the Ban hammer too, that happens. So to those people that are inconvenienced (please don't let it be me! lol), just remember, the people who caused this problem are the people who cheated and those that found out and didn't report it until now...not the Devs. Best of luck! g'night.
Yea... But at least it was more productive than 99% of the posts in this thread... *LOL*
mmmm steak