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Why there won't be a full-wipe.
armored22
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
With the amount of variables involved there could never be a full wipe.
There are a ton of other reasons as well. As much as i would HATE to start over i would. Why? Because i love this game so much. I would LOVE to ask for one thing if they do in fact do a server wide wipe.
Bring back the Foundry Exploite as an exclusive event next weekened?
- HoTN and Guardians Head Start
- Zen purchases
- Time investments
- Foundry Creations? (this stuff could easily be backed up)
There are a ton of other reasons as well. As much as i would HATE to start over i would. Why? Because i love this game so much. I would LOVE to ask for one thing if they do in fact do a server wide wipe.
Bring back the Foundry Exploite as an exclusive event next weekened?
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It's just a haven for trolls and complainers!
http://www.reddit.com/r/Neverwinter/comments/1eebyi/an_exploiter_claims_to_have_made_almost_six/
Notice how they are praying that a wipe doesn't happen because it will destroy everything.
On the other hand, if you do the rollback and ban
> rollback till when?
> Will you ban ppl that grouped with exploiters? who accepted a cat?
> what happens to ppl that has already send the zen to others PW games?
So I think wipe it's the only way to solve this bug. For the future of the game.
You know. You shouldn't call yourself out. Probably ensure your own ban.
People will also quite if there is no wipe. This is a no win scenario for Neverwinter and it thanks to some idiots that thought breaking the system was cool.
A wipe is the best and only scenario to completely rectify this situation. As for the forums and the community, you might want to reconsider. the forums are the only voice Cryptic hears. if you allow the forums to be nothing but trills and complainers and you do not have your voice heard, then do not cry when things go other than you and your in game buddies would like. Get them on the forums and part of the discussion.
HoTN and Guardians got to play the open beta for the headstart - I do not think that those days offers any real advantage as fast as leveling goes in this game. You can hit 60 in a week without cheating.
Zen purchases can be refunded as they were in previous betas - the methods are already in place and have been used.
This is a MMO - the whole thing is a time sink. You will spend more time, and waste more time Wipe or not.
Foundry Creations can be backed up.
But I know there will not be any wipes, it's not necessary. Perhaps rollback AH and currency servers to a different state. If wiping a server would be Cryptic response to this incident then that would be frightening, what will happen if another incident involving exploitation 2 years down the line? Will Cryptic response will be another server wipe? Of course not.
But I know there will not be any wipes, it's not necessary. Perhaps rollback AH and currency servers to a different state. If wiping a server would be Cryptic response to this incident then that would be frightening, what will happen if another incident involving exploitation 2 years down the line? Will Cryptic response will be another server wipe? Of course not.
I got news for you lots of people will quit if there isn't a wipe
How about there will not be a wipe because Cryptic said there would not be a wipe? /shrug
Open release is a brand new day. The world is wiped and we all the de-ja-vu for a little while.
Was that a mistake? Probably, but that is the current situation and a wipe would likely now do more damage than not wiping.
Many of the exploiters wouldn't be bothered by a wipe: they have sold their gains for real money and/or have lost their accounts anyway as the fraudulent AD was tracked down. They have little to lose from a wipe.
All of the honest players, however, would lose from a wipe.
If they wipe, then their word is 100% untrusted, and people quit, PR has MAJOR issues, and word gets around they can't be trusted at their word regardless, so they have a very hard time getting new players.
Like all MMO's, within a year, most founders will be gone, moved on to some new hotness. All their toys will be in dead accounts waiting to be hacked over time. Within 2 years, very few of us that started with this game will still be here, as more than weekend warriors. Look at STO, first major update in years, and they got sudden queues with 30k people. Most days, you wouldn't have known 500 people play. Same will happen here in a few years. When a major update hits, many people will visit for a few weeks then be done yet again.
So a company has to cater to the idea of turnaround. Those that currently play the game only really need to be appeased for 6 months or so. Long enough to get friends into it before they leave. They need to look at their image, and how people see them. Incompetent is not nearly as detrimental as dishonest. And most importantly, they need to be seen as fixing things that are broken, which means things have to be broken to have them fixed. Not they they intentionally break things, but they have priorities, and until a bug is apparent to the community as a whole, it doesn't need fixed before one that is apparent to the community.
So a wipe removes all credibility, thus makes it harder for them to build for tomorrows incoming players. As long as they don't wipe, they can weather any issues that arise.
And as my old hobby store boss used to say (when I asked about the good ol days of "D&D is the devil" protests that happened outside his store) "There is no such thing as bad publicity." Evidently his sales went up almost 50% for months after those protests.
EDIT, By founders, i mean people that are here in the launch time frame of the game.
1. if they simply wipe out, the "premium members" will kill them, no offence here
2. what they need is rollback to day 1, but, I dont think they have the data to rollback, if they have I believe they done it already instead of just 7 hours rollback
3. publisher, in this case PWE will not allowed that, why? #1
things that could happen is this, when the bug is completely handled, yes, handled wisely, there is a new server possibility, with that you have 2 options: continue the game in the current mess, or restart in new server, that will solve the wipe-supporter cries without sacrificing the "premium members".
You left out the #1 reason there wont be a wipe!
The PWI sponsored players would have to start all over, its already been hidden and found out once. They wont wipe and have to start all over, wont be as easy to hide it again, and they would have to do it the right way this time.
And for me I sent support about AD exploit about 3weeks ago and just 2days ago I got auto-response about that issue and also about the refund issue. it said " we are busy now". This is HAMSTER.... I cannot believe this.
Someone give me idea how should i hundle this, im so f up
And then after you're perma-banned from ALL PWE games, PWE will respond back to your bank that you received the goods you ordered, and your bank will take the money back out of your account and charge you a stiff penalty. Depending on the bank, they may even close your account.
they bann me from all bugged games they have ? sounds like a pretty good deal. the other stuff wont happen, never ever.