What causes this games community to be so silent? I do dungeons, no one talks, I talk directly to someone, they completely ignore me. I've done 10+ dungeons, and no one has talked, even when directly spoken to, they just run around and continue to play like robots. In my 10 years of playing MMO's I've never seen something like this before. What is the cause of this? It's so strange, I've seriously never seen something like this before. They also speak english, because I can see their guilds being english, so it's not a language barrier.
Playing with robots isn't very fun, and I just want to maybe make some friends or just make the dungeons more fun with talking, or even have teamwork and tell them strats, or have them tell me what bosses do for dungeons I've never done before.
Has anyone else experienced this weird mute + robotlike behavior so far?
^ Yep. Not sure if its because Voice Chat is down or was. I tried saying Hey, tried Vendui.. Nothing. Its hard to build a friendslist or get a the full enjoyable experience. Ive actually had good feedback in PvP, people are much more chatty there.
I'm not actually using my voice though, I'm just typing. People are usually more open to typing than using their voice, and they will have a keyboard, not sure if they'll have a microphone
"Participation in PVP-related activities is so low on an hourly, daily, weekly, and monthly basis that we could in fact just completely take it out of STO and it would not impact the overall number of people [who] log in to the game and play in any significant way." -Gozer, Cryptic PvP Dev
I'll usually talk if someone talks to me, but normally I'm concentrating on healing, as I'm a cleric. But I assume most people may either not speak your language, or just want to concentrate on the dungeon and get it over with. Dungeons suck in the game atm for the most part, and are more tedious than they should be. People just want to rush them and be done with it.
I usually don't play with a mic for various reasons, but will type when i can. If i'm running somewhere or fighting though, i tend to not say much.
Also, you may not be playing with many English speakers, basically one world server, and depending on your hours, that could be part of it. I know in DDO i played a lot when the other side of the world was playing more, and it made things interesting, to say the least. I have to admit, FFXI, for all it's annoyances to me, had a great translation aspect. Not perfect, but when you are playing with mostly Japanese, you can at least say something.
That, or people are just shy. If no one says anything, i tend to also be silent.
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breeding77Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 5Arc User
edited May 2013
I've noticed this too. Only time people talk is when stuff goes sideways. Like going into a lvl 40ish instance with no healer and blaming the devs that they can't beat the final boss.
Game mechanics. When your typing you cant do any other actions like other mmos
Not fluid to type and play...
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lucidp2kBanned Users, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
I'm usually trying to DPS adds off the poor Clerics, so, too busy to talk much.
Spend less time complaining about shop prices and more time improving your salary.
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huttjMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 18Arc User
edited May 2013
For me, I find trying to type while left hand WASD and right hand mouse very awkward. Especially in combat with dodging, and qer, even though I put tab and my dailies on my mouse. Just the shift in position from moving to typing positions is odd, so I don't do so unless I have something pertinent.
As to voice chat? Hearing random singing, profanity, and misogyny in my ear is not what I consider fun. If I know the guy, it's different, because if I know them and am playing with them, their idea of what's appropriate/funny is probably vaguely aligned with mine.
What causes this games community to be so silent? I do dungeons, no one talks.
I hate to admit it, but for a long time, I didnt even know how to talk to others. When my hero was just starting, tried to interact with someone, and it said I couldnt, if I remember correctly. Now it says I can. But even now, I find it extremely difficult to talk to other players, especially when they are offscreen.
Whats the command line? Something like: \tell soandso@soandso, ...
I dunno. But communication itself seems extremely unfriendly, at least inconvenient, at least unclear.
The user-interface needs to make communicating easier.
Also, in order to use the chat, I need to exit the game to use the pointer. And in a dungeon that is a dangerous thing to do.
As mentioned already, its not convenient to stand still to type in a dungeon or anywhere really for that matter. Especially since you need to avoid a lot of machanics.
What causes this games community to be so silent? I do dungeons, no one talks, I talk directly to someone, they completely ignore me. I've done 10+ dungeons, and no one has talked, even when directly spoken to, they just run around and continue to play like robots. In my 10 years of playing MMO's I've never seen something like this before. What is the cause of this? It's so strange, I've seriously never seen something like this before. They also speak english, because I can see their guilds being english, so it's not a language barrier.
Playing with robots isn't very fun, and I just want to maybe make some friends or just make the dungeons more fun with talking, or even have teamwork and tell them strats, or have them tell me what bosses do for dungeons I've never done before.
Has anyone else experienced this weird mute + robotlike behavior so far?
I don't see the point in spamming, but if you engage me i'll be more than happy to shoot the breeze with you even in a dungeon, sadly the dungeons are a bit long and really only give you gear as the EXP comparatively is bleh despite the great fun you can derive from them.
What I mostly notice, is that a lot of players are slacking, underperforming and generally being awful and their silence is in some way them trying to not draw attention to themselves, when really all they do, is give even more of a reason for folks to consider them a bad asset. That being said, had a few quiet, but nice groups that have dealt with problem players quickly and maturely with little to no drama. I have to say, I really am starting to love this community in itself, even though I have my issues with PWE etc.
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klangeddinMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 882Arc User
edited May 2013
The chat system is a bit "cumbersome" in this game, compared to normal MMOs. Since this one is so action-orientated, typing while fighting is not as easy as in a your avarage tab-targeting mmo
I type slow and have difficulty with this games chat box for some reason too. groups rush so much in this game that I'm afraid to try to type or I may miss something and people die and get mad so I usually say nothing until after the last boss. I hate the rushing everywhere, what's the giant hurry?
I don't want people to be chatty though, when I ask "Hey what does this boss do?" or directly tell people what a boss does, and ask them if they understand(because it's actually a difficult boss like one of the dragons), they don't say a word. Usually they even completely ignore the strategy I gave them for defeating the boss, making us wipe or take even more time to kill the boss.
I just thought of this, could be a controller thing. I play with a PS3 controller so its sorta out of the way to use the keyboard, could be reason for some people being quiet.
I don't want people to be chatty though, when I ask "Hey what does this boss do?" or directly tell people what a boss does, and ask them if they understand(because it's actually a difficult boss like one of the dragons), they don't say a word. Usually they even completely ignore the strategy I gave them for defeating the boss, making us wipe or take even more time to kill the boss.
^ Or when you tell the party, "Hey this boss puts a ground AoE at this feet every 15sec and it one shots you." and then 2 people died at the start of the enounter.
Sometimes I don't mind the silence when zone chat in town goes 80 MPH and mostly consists of:
wheres the bank?
wheres the mailbox?
where do I buy ID scrolls?
and how do I stealth? :P
At least the amount of times those questions are asked shows theres a lot of people playing
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bpphantomMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
I turned off voice as soon as I loaded the game on. I'll use a vent/mumble server instead. That way when I'm in a pug and start cursing that the healer is bad, or the tank is bad, or the DPS is bad, or I'm bad, only people that I'm friends with will hear me and respond.
As for text chat... the dungeons are all so straightforward*. Follow path to boss, don't stand in red stuff and hit boss and adds, repeat. Not that I expected much more this early, but I don't need to explain strategy, or listen to strategy. It's "Get 'em!".
I'm only 32 and the only thing I say, or have seen others say, is relating to the superfluous boss in the Cloaktower. The default-on little glowy line of breadcrumbs doesn't lead to him. Why would anyone fight him? That said, I like deviating from the railroad from time to time.
- bpphantom
Grace, Tiefling Devoted Cleric
"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are. Then leave the rest to Batman."
I'm only 32 and the only thing I say, or have seen others say, is relating to the superfluous boss in the Cloaktower. The default-on little glowy line of breadcrumbs doesn't lead to him. Why would anyone fight him? That said, I like deviating from the railroad from time to time.
To get the item to unlock the chest at the end.
"Participation in PVP-related activities is so low on an hourly, daily, weekly, and monthly basis that we could in fact just completely take it out of STO and it would not impact the overall number of people [who] log in to the game and play in any significant way." -Gozer, Cryptic PvP Dev
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bpphantomMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
That boss is also bugged and if you clear the final boss, then go back to that boss and kill him after he doesn't attack you at all, but summons add and stuff. Really weird bug, might not be how to make the bug work but that's what happened the one time we killed him after the final boss.
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Also, you may not be playing with many English speakers, basically one world server, and depending on your hours, that could be part of it. I know in DDO i played a lot when the other side of the world was playing more, and it made things interesting, to say the least. I have to admit, FFXI, for all it's annoyances to me, had a great translation aspect. Not perfect, but when you are playing with mostly Japanese, you can at least say something.
That, or people are just shy. If no one says anything, i tend to also be silent.
Not fluid to type and play...
As to voice chat? Hearing random singing, profanity, and misogyny in my ear is not what I consider fun. If I know the guy, it's different, because if I know them and am playing with them, their idea of what's appropriate/funny is probably vaguely aligned with mine.
Whats the command line? Something like: \tell soandso@soandso, ...
I dunno. But communication itself seems extremely unfriendly, at least inconvenient, at least unclear.
The user-interface needs to make communicating easier.
Also, in order to use the chat, I need to exit the game to use the pointer. And in a dungeon that is a dangerous thing to do.
GAMING GENERATION
I blame the game developers.
"lets get this over with"
and
"Hey Wizard, you really NEED that Greatsword?"
I don't see the point in spamming, but if you engage me i'll be more than happy to shoot the breeze with you even in a dungeon, sadly the dungeons are a bit long and really only give you gear as the EXP comparatively is bleh despite the great fun you can derive from them.
What I mostly notice, is that a lot of players are slacking, underperforming and generally being awful and their silence is in some way them trying to not draw attention to themselves, when really all they do, is give even more of a reason for folks to consider them a bad asset. That being said, had a few quiet, but nice groups that have dealt with problem players quickly and maturely with little to no drama. I have to say, I really am starting to love this community in itself, even though I have my issues with PWE etc.
SO I just don't bother in them to be social 'til after, if anyone's caught my interest.
I'm already on vent anyway with people I'd rather be discussing things with anyway.
What better happen when Paladins are introduced someday...A glorious union it shall be.
^ Or when you tell the party, "Hey this boss puts a ground AoE at this feet every 15sec and it one shots you." and then 2 people died at the start of the enounter.
wheres the bank?
wheres the mailbox?
where do I buy ID scrolls?
and how do I stealth? :P
At least the amount of times those questions are asked shows theres a lot of people playing
As for text chat... the dungeons are all so straightforward*. Follow path to boss, don't stand in red stuff and hit boss and adds, repeat. Not that I expected much more this early, but I don't need to explain strategy, or listen to strategy. It's "Get 'em!".
I'm only 32 and the only thing I say, or have seen others say, is relating to the superfluous boss in the Cloaktower. The default-on little glowy line of breadcrumbs doesn't lead to him. Why would anyone fight him? That said, I like deviating from the railroad from time to time.
Grace, Tiefling Devoted Cleric
"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are. Then leave the rest to Batman."
To get the item to unlock the chest at the end.
Ah. Meh. Not really worth it then. Still, a fight's a fight.
Grace, Tiefling Devoted Cleric
"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are. Then leave the rest to Batman."
Well, there's always the seal and item he drops