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Wow this nickel and dime approach is fast turning me off.
askopdkapok
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I've played several micro transaction games but the prices and structure in this game is really turning me off.
Do you really have to spend 45 AD for a SINGLE level 30 identify scroll? I have an inventory full of non-ID'd stuff. Doing the math on what that translates to real world currency is shocking when you add up all the "necessities" you need just to play. And this after spending $200 on the game?
For the $200 package I get 8 bank slots... wow.
Really getting turned off. I can understand some of the luxury items or cosmetic stuff costing AD or Xen. Spamming skirmishes and dungeons as fast as the queue warrants I look at the AD gain and what upkeep costs and it just doesn't make sense.
IMHO LOTRO had micro-transactions down perfect. I'd rather pay a monthly fee than this model. Same gut-wrenching feeling you'd get if you took a 10 year old junker into a shady mechanic.
Do you really have to spend 45 AD for a SINGLE level 30 identify scroll? I have an inventory full of non-ID'd stuff. Doing the math on what that translates to real world currency is shocking when you add up all the "necessities" you need just to play. And this after spending $200 on the game?
For the $200 package I get 8 bank slots... wow.
Really getting turned off. I can understand some of the luxury items or cosmetic stuff costing AD or Xen. Spamming skirmishes and dungeons as fast as the queue warrants I look at the AD gain and what upkeep costs and it just doesn't make sense.
IMHO LOTRO had micro-transactions down perfect. I'd rather pay a monthly fee than this model. Same gut-wrenching feeling you'd get if you took a 10 year old junker into a shady mechanic.
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I don't have a problem with it 45 AD is nothing really
what you refer to as "necessities" are actually called conveniences
IMO it will keep the world from becoming saturated with all the gear people randomly ID and throw on the market for way too cheap and destroy the economy with
If you dont want to buy a crapton of ID scrolls be smart with it and only ID the stuff you may have a use for
And FYI, the cost of those scrolls used to be WAY higher. So stop looking a gift horse in the mouth.
$60 is the typical cost of a game and I look forward to dropping $10-$15 every month to continue to support the game just as if it were a sub game. With the ability to generate AD's each day, that gives me something to play with as well. The money sinks in the game should help with inflation, while also giving them the freedom to adjust AD's up and down by adding additional ways to generate AD's as well as way to take them out of circulation.
Please. 45 AD for a single level 30 identify scroll. Well, right now it's 500 AD per zen, so that's 0.09 Zen per scroll. Since 100 Zen = 1 dollar, that's 0.09 cents per scroll. How is that shocking?
This assumes you can't find any. I have way, way more ID scrolls drop than I get unidentified items. It just is not a problem.
if the game is anything like sto there is nothing to stop you from creating many max level characters to churn out ad and convert it to zen
(not in game yet, assuming it has an exchange like sto)
2) Assuming you do somehow in a very weird way have a shortage of scrolls.
A single daily will give you 1000-3000 AD. That translates to 12-36 scrolls. for ONE daily. Or do you want them to be handed over to you in a custom gift box with gold truffle chocolate candies instead?
Yes please, would be neat. That way I wouldnt have to play the game.
I would personally spring up to $60 and buy the Guardian pack if you can...then it'll be about the price of a new 360 game that you may play for a week or less (or more, depending on how you play 360 games) and last quite a while.
Otherwise, you'll honestly do well enough just mainly get a mount, assuming the zen store mounts are account-wide (I don't know if they are).
I haven't seen any quests that needed to be purchased, then again, i am a founder so...
Cryptic never charges for content, you won't ever have to pay to gain entry to a quest. Even things like basic companions and mounts can be gained in-game either for free (like the companions) or for just a few gold (your first mount). Spending money on the game will yield faster or fancier mounts from the store, dye packs for your armor, fashion items like hats and clothes, that stuff.
It's worth noting that the mounts and companions that don't come from the Zen store can still be upgraded using Astral Diamonds, which are the primary currency in the game, and that AD can be exchanged for Zen, the store currency.
So you can get armor dyes and stuff for free still?
I mean whats the point in gold? why not have enemies just drop AD and have the items that cost gold, cost AD instead? Then I think everyone would be oh that's fine its like any other F2P game ever... this game is Pioneering a new system for in game currency's, and pioneering aint always good... just look at capcom and DLC to see what I mean
I see that you haven't played many of the more egregious models that litter the f2p market
Which game would you relate this to?
You could try the alternate Dungeons and Dragons MMO. During character creation, the game informs you that if you are willing to pay, you can start at a higher level than others, and have more attribute points to spend on core abilities. Every time you look at your character's stats, it reminds you that you can purchase extra stat points from the store. Every time you get "energy drained," a common attack from undead enemies, a pop-up says, "buy a potion from the store to remove this effect!" Nine out of ten of the adventures have to be paid for before you can enter them, and have a big store icon above the quest givers.
Trust me, it could be worse.
OH MY GOD!!!!
yes ok il admit neverwinter compared to THAT! aint bad.... wth is that MMO owned by EA or something?
but still the way they handle currency in neverwinter is still leaning towards an almost constant reminder to the player that unless they pay money they will never get anything decent ever.
see the way I like a F2P MMO to work is like some new player comes in... and looks at a mount store... as an example and sees a huge variety of awsome horses and a few other things as well, like a mount rewarded for PvP or one you can trade dungeon tokens in for (you know stuff he really has to work hard for INGAME but still looks cool) and then he looks at the premium item zen store and sees that he could just buy an EVEN cooler mount.... like a horse... THATS ON FIRE! right now for real money....
that's fine.... im ok with that, but not when the entire currency system is stacked against you so that all you can ever buy if you never use the AH within say.... a YEAR is a fricken bay gelding pony which may or may not come with a saddle and probably has some sort of hoof rot.
And that's it. They've forgotten the heart of their games. I don't know how many people who worked on PWE worked for Cryptic before the buy-out, but being PWE's first real release alongside Cryptic, I have to say. I'm not impressed. I miss Cryptic.
And best of all...
There is no way around that cost...
Unless you want to make throw away accounts and repeat the same handful of cash rewarding options over and over and over again.
Get rewarded for playing the game? No! That just makes too much sense. Subscribe to play content or pay us a small fortune.
Or make hundreds of throw away accounts. The choice is yours but always remember you have to pay us something if you truly want to enjoy the game.
No DDO doesn't justify NW...
But Neverwinter is by no means bad IMO. Some prices are high...but many of the high prices are per character unlocks.
Top it off with the fact you get paid to play the game and you can easily save yourself a substanial amount just by playing the game. You have to factor in that you are essencially paid to play.
Without a doubt that is factored into the prices.
There is no power difference between players that pay and those that do not. Luxury items, sure, but no difference in your ability to play the game. In ToR, every time you turn a quest in you are advised that you could be earning more XP or getting better options.