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This thread is for any feedback/bugs related to the difficulty of Epic Dungeons and Normal Trials.
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I have upgraded my pets to mythic, changed my radiant enchants to 3 stat that I need, but not fully rebalanced my toon. I was going off the statement that we should be able to do content we could before.
Always been an issue with the game. Its designed around people running the same content over and over and over....so the rewards have to be scarce. Then they make that same content harder without increasing.
If we take these scenarios:
1) old dungeons have outdated rewards, no need for scaling
2) there's scaling to make old dungeons not trivial, the dungeons have good rewards
Scenario 2 is clearly better for NW imo, due to the very low amount of dungeons we get (2 per year if we're lucky). But the extreme delay between introducing scaling and actually updating the rewards is quite annoying.
I don't hate these changes. Maybe there will be something to do as a healer in epic dungeons now, after all. And something more varied than "Power everywhere" also seems nice (although difficult to adapt, for sure). But they should probably think more about timing for this kind of change.
The full health bar of shield was also a surprise considering I'm around 600k HP now.
Adjustments will be made to bosses damages and health as we get feedback on them.
As a note, this thread https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter#/discussion/1258806/official-combat-changes-master-trials
was intended for those trials as we expected them to need the most tuning to get into a proper place.
Edit: I feel the same way with tower on preview atm, it's longer, slower, and boring. The pucker factor just isn't there to keep you hopping.
Live - Arcanist, 33k IL, 205k Power, 400k HP, offensive stats around 85k, defence 85k, Chicken
Preview - Arcanist, 47k IL, 5650 Damage, 610k HP, capped power, offensive stats 60-65%, 47% defence, Chicken
Bearing in mind the preview build has 100% mount and companion bolsters, I felt significantly weaker. I did less damage, but the main thing was how hard I got hit. Not an issue with 1 or 2 enemies about, but as soon as a mob or 2 goes on you it's very difficult to avoid death.
What I'm not sure of is what the intended experience is supposed to be. Is it the case that a fairly maxed out character should struggle attempting to solo any 'party' content? I would expect it to be tough, solo, but it certainly feels that I could not do the same content in roughly the same way that I can on live, even with maxed out mythics.
On stats balance, with low defence I suppose I'd expect to be a bit more fragile, but to kill enemies quicker. It feels that if I bolstered my defence more, I'd go from "slow kill" to "slower kill". It make me unsure as to what a good balance should be.
I can solo LoMM up to Arcturia with a few deaths and some focus on stuns from various sources. Took some time, but didn't seem impossible.
When trying Malabog's, I can barely put a dent in mobs.
Yes, well-aware that we're not in a solo game, but the "feel" of the game shouldn't change much between dungeons, right? I thought I'd be able to progress a bit further than the second tower.
Valindra's Tower: Everything was noticeably scaled. No unusual bugs noted.
LoMM: Rocks are OP, couldn't kill any and the worm blast phase was pretty brutal lol. Trobriand remained agro'd on the tank and turned with the tank during the blast phase taking his target off the scorpions. Before, once trobriad laid down his blast AoE, he would remain fixed facing towards that blast direction.
Infernal Citedal: This run was pretty close to the current "normal". First boss took a long time to kill. The team wasn't taking much damage so it was just mindless hammering away at the boss. We started with slow mob pulls in the outside environment and then we managed to do full pulls in the hallways. Second boss was fine. Final boss, tank took little to NO damage when chained and blasted with fire. Yay for the tank, zzzz for the healer. Damage to the boss was slower than usual and we had to wipe several times due to player error. We didn't get to test the dps check on the final boss because we ended up disbanding.
IC Update: Ran with a new group. Noticed bugs with final boss. If a team member died, they revive with 0 stats for a couple seconds until they can be healed. DPS one-hit with falling rocks. Tank can run on lava with shield up. Still dont need to heal tank during chain phase.
Tiamat: ran with a group of 7 (1 heal, 1 tank, and 5dps). Tiamat was easily completed in two phases however, the defending the cleric phases did not appear and went directly to the Tiamat fight.
Where as in Infernal citadel. It is bit easy to kill mobs compared to LOMM
> No one needs armor from old dungeons. Even in fresh dungeons like the mage tower and citadel, there is a huge amount of useless armor. Please review the reward system from dungeon chests in favor of reducing useless items and seals.
right, but what do you suggest? what rewards should be in your opinion?
> > @slonokdja#8966 said:
> > No one needs armor from old dungeons. Even in fresh dungeons like the mage tower and citadel, there is a huge amount of useless armor. Please review the reward system from dungeon chests in favor of reducing useless items and seals.
>
> right, but what do you suggest? what rewards should be in your opinion?
I wouldn't say "no one," since you never know who might find that one piece they need - A pally healer might get a drop for their tank loadout, for example.
But I'd like to see some higher rank enchants and runestones from dungeon chests, at least 10. Even if it's not the exact one I want, it'd help my RP.
Right now it feels like those items mostly come from lockboxes and tradebar store, and since I'm morally opposed to lockboxes, I'm currently at the mercy of the AH or the very high refining costs.
The dungeon is nice, with mobs and bosses. We had ZERO problems in each part of the dungeon.
Hellow! Today with my guild we tested TIC (The Infernal Citadel) after last patch.
The dungeon is nice, with mobs and bosses. We had ZERO problems in each part of the dungeon.
But i think u need to rework the damage of the "Fallen Stones" from the sky (Raucous Crowd) like u can see here
and in this video (I have 650k HP)
Hope u can fix that!
Looks like that Halaster and Zariel have 10%ish of armor penetration (or they ignore 10% of our defense anyway), is it intentional or a bug?sorry, wrong thread
Today we tested ToMM in Preview.
in the first phase some attacks are really too strong. U can watch in that video
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Dryl6rOpJD4&t=9s
Heatwave: it seems doing 150/200k dmg for sec
That is Hypothermia on me, on split healers phase (I have 55% defense and 55% crit avoidance; 600k+ hp)
That Superstorm on First Phase:
That's chains:
I Have the entire act of the run, so i can help if need something!
Like always, hope u can fix asap
The damage share mechanic was brutal and was a guaranteed death each time, whether or not we clustered for it - feels like that mechanic or phase had not been adjusted yet for the dungeon/new combat stats.
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You can not run away from these same enemies, there is no tether. The enemies will outrun you everytime even using a full stamina bar. I'm not sure if all enemies in the changed format move this quick but if they do there is no such thing as retreat. You either win or die. Should be another option imo Even after death these guys still dont' tether and return. No adventurer left alive and the group of enemies stay in place where they were when you died.