So what does that mean for how assets convert over to the new system? Well, because for instance, one single epic artisan in the old system does not come close to being as valuable as a single epic artisan in the new system, you will be able to exchange your existing assets for a currency. That currency will allow you to purchase a comparable amount of assets in the new system, redistributing them however you please.
From the sounds of this an epic asset or tool now will be worth what a rare, at best, asset or tool in the new system? So my nearly 1,200 epic assets that I have will maybe get me 600 new epic assets?
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If you have the Protector’s Garden unlocked from the Protector’s Jubilee, when you arrive in Protector’s Enclave, you should arrive at the Protector’s Garden travel gate. Then you’d be closer to all the PE services, including, now, the professions workshop. That would also lend value to the Protector’s Garden for people with ViP (and vice versa).
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@asterdahl "In regards to the Forgehammer and legendary tools, those will be exempt from the standard conversion process, and instead convert 1:1 into an equally valuable tool of your choice in the new system. "
Does this mean a forgehammer will convert to a tool which still works for all professions ?
I can't get on preview, I simply don't have room for a second copy of the game on my aging machine. I also have a spare unbound forgehammer (that I bought ages ago and never bound because I waited till the end of an event and dropped a bound one in the event) and I will be seriously upset if it becomes of considerably less value.
A couple of quick questions, that I hope can be answered: 1. Have you eliminated 'bound-to-character' items from recipes? I can live with bound-to-account - because then I can at least shuffle stuff around, but having to level jewelcrafting on each alt so they could (try to) make a dual-slot ring / necklace was maddening.
2. How long will the trade-in period last? I ask this as someone with a toon who has hundreds of Seals of the Elements remaining on them... ;-)
3. Speaking of the trade-in, will assets still be able to be moved between characters after the new system goes live? I ask, as I ended up with toons who suddenly had BtA retraining tokens get converted and bound when that change went live.
Blacksmiths as well as artificers and a few other professions will now be able to make tools. Tools will have their own required levels and provide better and better stats.
In regards to the Forgehammer and legendary tools, those will be exempt from the standard conversion process, and instead convert 1:1 into an equally valuable tool of your choice in the new system.
So can a Philosophers Stone convert into say a 3 profession tool? Can a bound Forgehammer be converted into an unbound mythic tool which can then be shoved onto another char? How exactly is "of similar value" intended to work? Because currently legendary tools are worth 100's of millions depending on the tool, or almost nothing if they are a philosophers stone.
Currently the only reason MW items have value is because of the prohibitively high entrance cost. If this becomes too cheap, nothing will be worth anything anymore. Will there still be a high entrance cost to professions or can I expect to just step out of them because they are not worth my time anymore, because everyone will be able to craft.
Little question: What will happen to the Black Ice profession? Will we still be able to empower old items like drow, dragonfligh or eleven stuff? Asking for collection, if I should rush it now or if it's still possible later.
Black Ice Shaping will be removed from the game. Ultimately this was a feature that was built at a very specific time in Neverwinter history and the team that originally built it intended for it to be supported long term. However, it really holds no unique place in terms of the items it creates, as professions that create all sorts of equipment already exist.
Instead, it simply creates items similar to what other professions create, with the added mechanic that you must keep the item charged with black ice, which is ultimately not something the current team would like to see persisted. For those who have black ice assets and tools, you will be able to turn those into assets and materials for other professions in cases where they no longer have a use.
As for the materials and black ice equipment itself, a new contact will be available at the black ice forge in Caer-Konig who will be able to "craft" items for you out of the materials.
A few other profession name and mergings/removals I'd like to address while on the topic—mailsmithing and platesmithing are being merged under a single umbrella "Armorsmithing." You'll have an armorsmithing rank equivalent to the highest of the two and all masterwork recipes for the two will be merged together into a single book, regardless of which quest you completed or what quest you are on now.
Finally, weaponsmithing has been renamed "Blacksmithing." This is primarily to reflect that this profession now handles the creation of other items outside of weapons, for instance, blacksmiths will be capable of producing a wide variety of tools, from hammers and pickaxes to hatchets and scythes.
@asterdahl Thanks for explaining this. And I saw you called out the Forgehammer. But if I infer from your comment about it, the Forgehammer will not play such a pivotal role in the new profession system, and appears to be defunk now, is that correct?
At least for the immediate future the forgehammer will still be the best tool available at mythic quality. Because there will now be more granularity in terms of what a tool is, you may see some tools that are between the old epic tools and the mythic forgehammer that are more reasonable to obtain, but the forgehammer will still be excellent.
• Is the personal workshop an account-wide feature or will every toon have their own workshop?
• In the announcement it states that you can upgrade your workshop for more delivery slots. I've spent a lot of time unlocking 9 profession slots on multiple characters. How is that going to be reflected in the new system? Will that translate to more delivery slots in the new system?
...and those recipes will have a difficulty rating that determines their success rate...
• I'm cherrypicking your words for that quote. It sounds like more RNG is being introduced into professions? Is that a correct observation? Do you feel the community is going to be excited for more RNG to be introduced when in most cases RNG seems to punish players more often than not (see lockboxes, hunt lures in M12/13, mastercrafting, upgrading gear/enchants, etc)
• The announcement also stated the following: "assign adventurers to gather raw materials and raw refinement stones via the gathering profession, which leadership has been reworked in to" • Was leadership intentionally removed because it was the main generator of AD/RP for anyone that wasn't doing mastercrafting? Because it sure sounds like removing leadership was definitely top of mind since just creating a gathering profession on it's own would have done the job.
RE: Professions slots: We are still finalizing the details of how the previously unlocked professions slots will convert over, but we will be accommodating them.
RE: RNG: Because we are introducing the concept of a success rate when crafting an item, you could say that more randomness is indeed being introduced. However, for leveling recipes, as long as you keep your artisans equipped with new tools (which are now obtained via in game means by simply crafting the tools or purchasing them from other players off the auction house) you should have a high success rate when crafting items.
While leveling you will now be able to craft recipes up to 5 levels above your current level. When challenging these recipes you can expect a potentially difficult time, but if you have a good artisan and tool perhaps you can make the item and earn more experience points. Alternatively, you can stick to recipes close to or just below your level for a guaranteed success rate.
For masterwork recipes, there was already a chance of failure, but it was baked into the way the profession's systems "reward tiers" worked. Now that chance to fail is simply a native part of the process, and you will be able to preview the value based on the proficiency stat of your artisan and tool combined. Each recipe will have a clearly marked maximum proficiency, reaching this number would get you a 100% success rate, that of course will be much harder for masterwork recipes.
RE: Leadership changes: Leadership has long been in an awkward place, and hasn't been supported as part of masterwork professions. One of our biggest goals for the professions changes was contextualizing the system, with the workshop and individual artisans and adventurers under your command. We also aimed to reduce the amount of chaff floating around the auction house in the form of items that were obtained incidentally, or crafted en masse in order to level, and with no resource being paid in to create them, resulting in absurdly low prices for everything. Ultimately we'd like items people spend time to make to sell for a little bit more.
In the current system, you can send your artisans to gather raw materials, generating items passively and paying absolutely nothing in, except for the few seconds of time it took to slot them. (Here I am referring only to pre-masterwork recipes.) Then those artisans can turn those materials into a finished product, at most perhaps the recipe requires an item that can only be bought at a vendor as well for a few silver.
So as we examined how materials are currently flooded into the market from various sources such as players leveling their professions by simply spamming the gathering task, as well as skill nodes and drops, we decided that we wanted to have a specific system for gathering materials. Assigning adventurers to gather materials from the field was of course a natural fit and leadership already involved dispatching adventurers.
If leadership took on the role of providing gathering support for all professions, that makes it easier to support moving forward, and ultimately still provides those who care only to focus on leadership with a largely similar experience, dispatch some adventurers and they come back with goods you can sell.
Across the board, professions—including gathering—will now be more about investing an initial cost and adding value to it, as opposed to creating something out of nothing. We also aim to severely reduce the tedium of engaging in the system, no longer requiring you to open the window multiple times a session to reassign artisans. In the end, you'll still be able to generate refinement through professions, but you'll have to invest some gold, silver or copper to pay the commission cost for your adventurer to complete the task. Some artisans will have lower commission costs or higher gathering rates, so you'll be able to choose adventurers and artisans based on your goals.
One further question/clarification: Will the Forgehammer of Gond, or whatever it turns into, still be usable in all professions? Or will we have to choose one specific profession to have a mythic tool for? Also, what about the artifact aspect that’s wearable/usable by a character? . . . Regarding “account wide” anything…. I’m assuming each workshop and everything to do with it (artisans/tools and especially recipes/progress) will be character specific, for a whole bunch of reasons….
But the one thing I would like to see be account wide, assuming this is still relevant, is the *inventory of resources*. I’ve spent a *huge* amount of time (and no doubt, server load) switching from one toon to another getting all the resources I need to one toon and then back again. It would be a huge convenience and efficiency to be able to have all toons access a shared professions-resource-specific inventory.
RE: Forgehammer: You'll still be able to use this tool for whatever profession you'd like. The artifact itself won't change either.
RE: Account wide: The workshop will be character specific. We don't currently have the ability to easily make the professions materials or assets bag account shared, but it's not impossible in the future.
Originally leadership gave coins and rAD Current leadership gives coins and refinement New gathering will have option to give refinement but now takes coins(so a new gold sink)
will there be gathering of copper, silver, and gold?
On the plus side my gathering will be lvl 70 on all my toons.
although this doesn't apply to my current toons but if all of the other professions are going to rely on gathering and if you don't have leadership maxxed then how will that work?
So say I'm at level 25 in tailoring now. In the new system, I will now be lvl 70 tailoring. If I haven't leveled leadership at all, will gathering be at 0/1?
It would appear legendary tools will no longer hold value since forge hammer will be best tool. Will we be allowed to use more than one forgehammer moving forward? If not, will legendary tools be the best tool possible after you use your one forgehammer?
I suggest to make companion equipment craftable on masterwork professions. The reason it that companions change from time to time, but their gear is much worse than generic gear, and ever worse than old loyal avenger gear. Currently, ring equipped companions like tiger or con artist are in the best situation as the could be equipped with better rings from questing zones. This reduce choice of companions.
The craftable companions gear will allow to equip companions more quickly and to switch companions more easily. And it will remove strange pricings differences like very expensive necks. This will also generate more demand for profession results. Currently there is practically no demand for masterwork armor and other things. The gear from dungeons makes masterwork gear obsolete in the next mod usually, and after this demand completely stops.
Also I would like to know what will happen with non-spent masterwork resource maps. I've missed the few last double profession events, and I'm not sure if I'll get to the next one. Is it possible to convert these maps in general to some advanced expedition order for professions that will gather specific rare masterwork resources? The gathering of these resources is very boring and mind blowing during double professions and it makes sense to gather them only during double professions. I have around 100 maps not spent .
Firstly, thank you for engaging with the community and answering questions, it is greatly appreciated and something the community certainly desires more of, especially around potentially contentious topics such as this. You answers so far have alleviated many of my concerns.
Secondly, your statement above regarding gathering "We also aim to severely reduce the tedium of engaging in the system, no longer requiring you to open the window multiple times a session to reassign artisans. In the end, you'll still be able to generate refinement through professions, but you'll have to invest some gold, silver or copper to pay the commission cost for your adventurer to complete the task"
While I appreciate removing the tedium of engaging with the system, I would like this to not be replaced with other tedium. Currently the RP tasks in leadership reward gold, very useful. In this new model it will cost gold. So rather than the tedium of interacting with the professions interface, we now face the tedium of spending hours farming trash mobs and picking up every piece of garbage on the floor, summoning our professions vendor (assuming it still exists) to sell it all for a few silver to finance these tasks. Please either remove a gold cost or make it sufficiently small it can be gathered easily through natural play, eg a couple of dungeon runs or quests, and not require significant farming replacing one source of tedium with an arguably for more tedious and frustrating one.
Will there be new viable gear introduced in the new professions? Will this system continually upgrade so we do not have the same problem we already have?
Awesome thread, thanks for engaging and thanks for reworking professions, this sounds interesting and fresh for this game.
I don't know how to make blue words but I was wondering if the explorers cases were getting a rework and will the materials from these cases still have a place in the new professions.
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kalina311Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 2,082Arc User
edited September 2018
time to start hoarding gold everyone.. if its a sink to complete profession tasks
"reading between the lines"
how much gold(bribes) can we expect typical mundane tasks to consume/ vs high level best in slot item ones .. every one of us will be broke soon lol
no gold ? ...sorry pal no mass ad generation via professions for you... gotcha
SURE YOU CAN DO THE SAME TASKS AS BEFORE BUT HOW LONG CAN YOU SUSTAIN IT ON MULTIPLE ALTS WITH ALL YOUR GOLD GETTING SUCKED UP LOL
so headline here folks no gold = you cant do professions = ninja nerf / hidden costs
broke on gold from swapping all your enchantments around too bad ,.,
I propose that the gold costs associated with enchantment swapping be removed if we are getting this brutal gold sink
> @kalina311 said: > time to start hoarding gold everyone.. if its a sink to complete profession tasks > > "reading between the lines" > > how much gold(bribes) can we expect typical mundane tasks to consume/ vs high level best in slot item ones .. every one of us will be broke soon lol
People will start trading crafted items for gold to be able to keep producing 😂
> time to start hoarding gold everyone.. if its a sink to complete profession tasks
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> "reading between the lines"
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> how much gold(bribes) can we expect typical mundane tasks to consume/ vs high level best in slot item ones .. every one of us will be broke soon lol
People will start trading crafted items for gold to be able to keep producing 😂
Maybe its their solution to making skill nodes useful again
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kalina311Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 2,082Arc User
edited September 2018
this might also suck gold out of the economy faster then it can be produced/ replaced making prices skyrocket as well ..how much gold do you suppose the average player has ?
maybe increased gold gain will be the new fashion for utility slots now ..? lol
Where will Bag of Gems/Crystals/Jewels fall into the upgrading of professions now?
Will 4 greens convert to the same as 1 blue for trade-in? Same question for 4 blues converting to 1 Epic? (seems upgrading assets/tools will be gone) … Just wondering if trade-in values for lesser tiers will be 25% of their next tier to keep values equal.
Will there be any trade skills that provide character experience quests (not trade skill experience) like Leadership does now, to encourage trade skilling on alts to generate overflow experience rewards for power points? Or will it be a 'grind your way to overflow exp on alts you rarely play' transition?
How will Mastercraft Maps be addressed (in inventory, shared bank, etc.)? As in, getting 1x, 2x, 4x drops per node depending on event and guild boon.
Will multi-craft Legendary tools (aka. Crucible) be tradeable for multiple new tools via trade-in? (might as well crash the market now).
Will there be any change to existing Artisan/Quartermaster trade skill boxes that will influence the new trade skill system?
Any changes to Stronghold profession vendors? (Atelier, Tanner, etc.)
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rickcase276Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,404Arc User
edited September 2018
I just hope that we will still be able to get about the same amount of rp we can now per day, I can normally get about 1k rp per character. That is the only thing that has me a bit worried about next mod, and I do hope that there will be better armors and jewelry next mod. We do need 500 ilevel versions of the 1 ability scores belts (girdle of strength etc).
Blacksmiths as well as artificers and a few other professions will now be able to make tools. Tools will have their own required levels and provide better and better stats.
In regards to the Forgehammer and legendary tools, those will be exempt from the standard conversion process, and instead convert 1:1 into an equally valuable tool of your choice in the new system.
So can a Philosophers Stone convert into say a 3 profession tool? Can a bound Forgehammer be converted into an unbound mythic tool which can then be shoved onto another char? How exactly is "of similar value" intended to work? Because currently legendary tools are worth 100's of millions depending on the tool, or almost nothing if they are a philosophers stone.
Currently the only reason MW items have value is because of the prohibitively high entrance cost. If this becomes too cheap, nothing will be worth anything anymore. Will there still be a high entrance cost to professions or can I expect to just step out of them because they are not worth my time anymore, because everyone will be able to craft.
Also wondering about this because if the trade in value of a Philosphers Stone is the same as say an Adamantine Hammer, then buying the Stones now might be a good deal no ?
Little question: What will happen to the Black Ice profession? Will we still be able to empower old items like drow, dragonfligh or eleven stuff? Asking for collection, if I should rush it now or if it's still possible later.
Black Ice Shaping will be removed from the game. Ultimately this was a feature that was built at a very specific time in Neverwinter history and the team that originally built it intended for it to be supported long term. However, it really holds no unique place in terms of the items it creates, as professions that create all sorts of equipment already exist.
Instead, it simply creates items similar to what other professions create, with the added mechanic that you must keep the item charged with black ice, which is ultimately not something the current team would like to see persisted. For those who have black ice assets and tools, you will be able to turn those into assets and materials for other professions in cases where they no longer have a use.
As for the materials and black ice equipment itself, a new contact will be available at the black ice forge in Caer-Konig who will be able to "craft" items for you out of the materials.
I had to make 8x lvl5 black ice forges to upgrade all the gear back when elven and dragonflight armor could be improved with this profession.. there was no way around it.. if you wanted elemental gear you needed black ice forge
this was a huge undertaking .. and now you are ripping it up and any of us that went thru this , survived the leadership ad nerf and stuck with game get this as a reward?
will we be able to craft the overload enchants? this was the only saving grace for a system many were forced to upgrade to max ,only to watch it be come neglected and useless .. will the black ice overloads also be removed from the game?
How is donating Labor to the Stronghold Coffer going to work now? Are you still going to be able to donate individuals? Or is it mainly going to be something you make form the new Gathering tree like you can right now with Leadership?
Also second question you talked about the Assets tab and how you'll be having less tools and less artisans but the real issue has always been the other side the materials slot. I consistently run out of space in there. Is that going to be bigger and better now?
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Does this mean a forgehammer will convert to a tool which still works for all professions ?
I can't get on preview, I simply don't have room for a second copy of the game on my aging machine. I also have a spare unbound forgehammer (that I bought ages ago and never bound because I waited till the end of an event and dropped a bound one in the event) and I will be seriously upset if it becomes of considerably less value.
1. Have you eliminated 'bound-to-character' items from recipes? I can live with bound-to-account - because then I can at least shuffle stuff around, but having to level jewelcrafting on each alt so they could (try to) make a dual-slot ring / necklace was maddening.
2. How long will the trade-in period last? I ask this as someone with a toon who has hundreds of Seals of the Elements remaining on them... ;-)
3. Speaking of the trade-in, will assets still be able to be moved between characters after the new system goes live? I ask, as I ended up with toons who suddenly had BtA retraining tokens get converted and bound when that change went live.
Overall, though, looking forward to the update!
Will we be able to craft +5 rings and finally unlock that Chult Hunt Rings Achievement?
Currently the only reason MW items have value is because of the prohibitively high entrance cost. If this becomes too cheap, nothing will be worth anything anymore. Will there still be a high entrance cost to professions or can I expect to just step out of them because they are not worth my time anymore, because everyone will be able to craft.
Instead, it simply creates items similar to what other professions create, with the added mechanic that you must keep the item charged with black ice, which is ultimately not something the current team would like to see persisted. For those who have black ice assets and tools, you will be able to turn those into assets and materials for other professions in cases where they no longer have a use.
As for the materials and black ice equipment itself, a new contact will be available at the black ice forge in Caer-Konig who will be able to "craft" items for you out of the materials.
A few other profession name and mergings/removals I'd like to address while on the topic—mailsmithing and platesmithing are being merged under a single umbrella "Armorsmithing." You'll have an armorsmithing rank equivalent to the highest of the two and all masterwork recipes for the two will be merged together into a single book, regardless of which quest you completed or what quest you are on now.
Finally, weaponsmithing has been renamed "Blacksmithing." This is primarily to reflect that this profession now handles the creation of other items outside of weapons, for instance, blacksmiths will be capable of producing a wide variety of tools, from hammers and pickaxes to hatchets and scythes. At least for the immediate future the forgehammer will still be the best tool available at mythic quality. Because there will now be more granularity in terms of what a tool is, you may see some tools that are between the old epic tools and the mythic forgehammer that are more reasonable to obtain, but the forgehammer will still be excellent. You'll be able to make these items, though some of them may not appear in the initial preview build. RE: Professions slots: We are still finalizing the details of how the previously unlocked professions slots will convert over, but we will be accommodating them.
RE: RNG: Because we are introducing the concept of a success rate when crafting an item, you could say that more randomness is indeed being introduced. However, for leveling recipes, as long as you keep your artisans equipped with new tools (which are now obtained via in game means by simply crafting the tools or purchasing them from other players off the auction house) you should have a high success rate when crafting items.
While leveling you will now be able to craft recipes up to 5 levels above your current level. When challenging these recipes you can expect a potentially difficult time, but if you have a good artisan and tool perhaps you can make the item and earn more experience points. Alternatively, you can stick to recipes close to or just below your level for a guaranteed success rate.
For masterwork recipes, there was already a chance of failure, but it was baked into the way the profession's systems "reward tiers" worked. Now that chance to fail is simply a native part of the process, and you will be able to preview the value based on the proficiency stat of your artisan and tool combined. Each recipe will have a clearly marked maximum proficiency, reaching this number would get you a 100% success rate, that of course will be much harder for masterwork recipes.
RE: Leadership changes: Leadership has long been in an awkward place, and hasn't been supported as part of masterwork professions. One of our biggest goals for the professions changes was contextualizing the system, with the workshop and individual artisans and adventurers under your command. We also aimed to reduce the amount of chaff floating around the auction house in the form of items that were obtained incidentally, or crafted en masse in order to level, and with no resource being paid in to create them, resulting in absurdly low prices for everything. Ultimately we'd like items people spend time to make to sell for a little bit more.
In the current system, you can send your artisans to gather raw materials, generating items passively and paying absolutely nothing in, except for the few seconds of time it took to slot them. (Here I am referring only to pre-masterwork recipes.) Then those artisans can turn those materials into a finished product, at most perhaps the recipe requires an item that can only be bought at a vendor as well for a few silver.
So as we examined how materials are currently flooded into the market from various sources such as players leveling their professions by simply spamming the gathering task, as well as skill nodes and drops, we decided that we wanted to have a specific system for gathering materials. Assigning adventurers to gather materials from the field was of course a natural fit and leadership already involved dispatching adventurers.
If leadership took on the role of providing gathering support for all professions, that makes it easier to support moving forward, and ultimately still provides those who care only to focus on leadership with a largely similar experience, dispatch some adventurers and they come back with goods you can sell.
Across the board, professions—including gathering—will now be more about investing an initial cost and adding value to it, as opposed to creating something out of nothing. We also aim to severely reduce the tedium of engaging in the system, no longer requiring you to open the window multiple times a session to reassign artisans. In the end, you'll still be able to generate refinement through professions, but you'll have to invest some gold, silver or copper to pay the commission cost for your adventurer to complete the task. Some artisans will have lower commission costs or higher gathering rates, so you'll be able to choose adventurers and artisans based on your goals.
RE: Forgehammer: You'll still be able to use this tool for whatever profession you'd like. The artifact itself won't change either.
RE: Account wide: The workshop will be character specific. We don't currently have the ability to easily make the professions materials or assets bag account shared, but it's not impossible in the future.
Originally leadership gave coins and rAD
Current leadership gives coins and refinement
New gathering will have option to give refinement but now takes coins(so a new gold sink)
will there be gathering of copper, silver, and gold?
On the plus side my gathering will be lvl 70 on all my toons.
although this doesn't apply to my current toons but if all of the other professions are going to rely on gathering and if you don't have leadership maxxed then how will that work?
So say I'm at level 25 in tailoring now. In the new system, I will now be lvl 70 tailoring. If I haven't leveled leadership at all, will gathering be at 0/1?
The craftable companions gear will allow to equip companions more quickly and to switch companions more easily. And it will remove strange pricings differences like very expensive necks. This will also generate more demand for profession results. Currently there is practically no demand for masterwork armor and other things. The gear from dungeons makes masterwork gear obsolete in the next mod usually, and after this demand completely stops.
Also I would like to know what will happen with non-spent masterwork resource maps. I've missed the few last double profession events, and I'm not sure if I'll get to the next one. Is it possible to convert these maps in general to some advanced expedition order for professions that will gather specific rare masterwork resources? The gathering of these resources is very boring and mind blowing during double professions and it makes sense to gather them only during double professions. I have around 100 maps not spent
Firstly, thank you for engaging with the community and answering questions, it is greatly appreciated and something the community certainly desires more of, especially around potentially contentious topics such as this. You answers so far have alleviated many of my concerns.
Secondly, your statement above regarding gathering "We also aim to severely reduce the tedium of engaging in the system, no longer requiring you to open the window multiple times a session to reassign artisans. In the end, you'll still be able to generate refinement through professions, but you'll have to invest some gold, silver or copper to pay the commission cost for your adventurer to complete the task"
While I appreciate removing the tedium of engaging with the system, I would like this to not be replaced with other tedium. Currently the RP tasks in leadership reward gold, very useful. In this new model it will cost gold. So rather than the tedium of interacting with the professions interface, we now face the tedium of spending hours farming trash mobs and picking up every piece of garbage on the floor, summoning our professions vendor (assuming it still exists) to sell it all for a few silver to finance these tasks. Please either remove a gold cost or make it sufficiently small it can be gathered easily through natural play, eg a couple of dungeon runs or quests, and not require significant farming replacing one source of tedium with an arguably for more tedious and frustrating one.
I don't know how to make blue words but I was wondering if the explorers cases were getting a rework and will the materials from these cases still have a place in the new professions.
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"reading between the lines"
how much gold(bribes) can we expect typical mundane tasks to consume/ vs high level best in slot item ones .. every one of us will be broke soon lol
no gold ? ...sorry pal no mass ad generation via professions for you... gotcha
SURE YOU CAN DO THE SAME TASKS AS BEFORE BUT HOW LONG CAN YOU SUSTAIN IT ON MULTIPLE ALTS
WITH ALL YOUR GOLD GETTING SUCKED UP LOL
so headline here folks no gold = you cant do professions = ninja nerf / hidden costs
broke on gold from swapping all your enchantments around too bad ,.,
I propose that the gold costs associated with enchantment swapping be removed if we are getting this brutal gold sink
> time to start hoarding gold everyone.. if its a sink to complete profession tasks
>
> "reading between the lines"
>
> how much gold(bribes) can we expect typical mundane tasks to consume/ vs high level best in slot item ones .. every one of us will be broke soon lol
People will start trading crafted items for gold to be able to keep producing 😂
maybe increased gold gain will be the new fashion for utility slots now ..? lol
Where will Bag of Gems/Crystals/Jewels fall into the upgrading of professions now?
Will 4 greens convert to the same as 1 blue for trade-in? Same question for 4 blues converting to 1 Epic? (seems upgrading assets/tools will be gone) … Just wondering if trade-in values for lesser tiers will be 25% of their next tier to keep values equal.
Will there be any trade skills that provide character experience quests (not trade skill experience) like Leadership does now, to encourage trade skilling on alts to generate overflow experience rewards for power points? Or will it be a 'grind your way to overflow exp on alts you rarely play' transition?
How will Mastercraft Maps be addressed (in inventory, shared bank, etc.)? As in, getting 1x, 2x, 4x drops per node depending on event and guild boon.
Will multi-craft Legendary tools (aka. Crucible) be tradeable for multiple new tools via trade-in? (might as well crash the market now).
Will there be any change to existing Artisan/Quartermaster trade skill boxes that will influence the new trade skill system?
this was a huge undertaking .. and now you are ripping it up and any of us that went thru this , survived the leadership ad nerf and stuck with game get this as a reward?
will we be able to craft the overload enchants?
this was the only saving grace for a system many were forced to upgrade to max ,only to watch it be come neglected and useless .. will the black ice overloads also be removed from the game?
Also, what happens to reinforcements? Will they continue to be available even though we're once again getting reinforced gear?