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frodnikk
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Fix your HAMSTER backlog 14m for HAMSTER sake cancer economy in pc...why the hell in consoles there is no backlog WTF !!!
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frodnikk
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Whenever group B is higher than group A, there is a backlog. The bigger the group B, the bigger the backlog.
Nowadays, well, it is very rare for the backlog to disappear, but it is just controlled by supply and demand, and personally I prefer the 1:500 ceiling we have to the, what.. . 1:1000 ceiling on the Russian server.
Removing (or raising) the ceiling would get rid of the backlog, but it would cause many F2P players to leave in disgust, and the game might not survive such a drop in the population.
Zen sale that will happen around June will probably clear whole queue.. but for time being we need to wait.
(And no, from my understanding of NW economy PC economy isn't affected by previous exploits that much like some think..I know few NW billionares and no one gained that using exploits. Just simply waiting for 40-50% sale double your AD twice a year)
You need 14 players with 500 million AD each or 7000 players with 1 million AD each.
The higher the backlog gets the higher value Zen has which diminishes the attraction of converting Zen into AD using the ZAX. This in turn causes the backlog to increase higher furthering the gap and increasing the ratio. The cycle continues.
For one thing that meant putting a sizable chunk into the dil surplus STO was suffering from, it happened alongside a nerf in the ability to accumulate dil. And to have people be willing to exchange zen for dil, since grinding and refining the dil would take ages and many of these things are confined to short event periods.
So I'm frankly baffled that nothing similar is being attempted in Neverwinter.
RP too because the price of RP from Zen store is bad.
(For people who don't know what we're talking about: Imagine if the Leadership profession had a rank 2 task that gave 8000 rough astral diamonds, that cycled every 4 hours, that required a "rare" material that characters with a high Leadership could produce in great numbers for zero cost, that was unbound and could be mailed to alts, banked, or sold on the auction house. That was the "turn over confiscated Contraband" task in STO. The single fastest way to make Dilithium in the game was to cycle a bunch of low-level alts and run back and forth between the bank and mailbox (to take Contraband from your other toons) and the security office (to grab the "turn over" task and feed it some Contraband) then repeat every 4 hours.
It's also worth noting that
1) 1 Dil is about 4 AD, in terms of the ability to refine it. So when you spend 1 Zen to buy 250 Dil, that's like spending 1 Zen to buy 1000 AD. So even though the Zen Exchange in STO isn't at the 500-1 cap, the effective price limit is much higher.
2) The Auction House in STO runs on *Gold*, not AD.
For all the reasons you mentioned and then some - like the fact that the must have item is about upgrading equipment and the upgrade system is so vastly different - the system can't be blindly copy/pasted for use in Neverwinter.
Yes the AH here uses "dil" but it doesn't seem to be enough of a sink to curb the problem. Though I think it's one of the reasons why we're still seeing an exchange between AD and Zen, people who want expensive stuff on there.
Hmmm, you know. Something just struck me. The most recent hike in the Zax backlog happened when the prizes in lockbox, which are often sold on the exchange, got a nerf.
Yes other things happened at the same time - Arc games getting removed and that thing with AD overload from leveling - but I've never seen mentioned, nor considered myself until now, that the fact that there was suddenly a lot less interesting new stuff to buy on the AH (i.e. fewer new - and old - good lockbox stuff) might have contributed as well.
If so, it looks like the current regime for lockbox prizes was very much the wrong way to go. And not just because the people who open them gets pissed.
A fairly active player that knows it's way around the game can generate enough AD to buy all this, but then it still needs wards to make use of it.
I cannot say for certain, but I'm pretty sure the problem is not that players dont buy ZEN, is just that players who buy ZEN don't exchange it for AD but end up using it directly in the ZEN store to buy wards.
This is because as some other people already mentioned it, character progression at the moment is heavily gated by wards and not by stuff u can get just by playing.
I find myself in this place, have a decent amount of AD and RP flowing in, but then I need ZEN for wards, and with this last bump to the maximum rank of enchantments, the usage of these is really high.
I haven't bought any VIP since this mod 13 lock box is what it is and now they added the Adventurer Packs to the Glorious Resurgence. :P It will be forever before the market saturation goes away. This pack lowers the prices on Epic Keys, Health Stones, and Life Scrolls. I guess you can buy them cheap and hope the packs will be gone by Christmas?
Yes, I do buy p-ward and c-ward from Zen store as 'reserves' when there is a big discount Zen store sales but I have not finished the account/character bound p-ward and c-ward to reach the stash of unbound p-ward/c-ward.
In addition, IMO, 14 million (or even 20 million) backlog is really nothing. It is not something I worry about. I have been buying Zen and I am getting Zen.
The GMOP/SMOP I mentioned above was not meant to be used for upgrade (that would be destroyed and need ward) but meant to be used as a "currency" (that is passed around to different player) to buy trophies.
It is sort of like flying. Pay more money to fly first class and get on the plane ahead of every etc... While economy people slowly wait for their turn. But we can all get to our destination eventually.
Once you lift it, it will hyper-inflate, AD looses value, and most players can't buy ZEN due to the prices. The game effectively no longer f2p.
The basic problem is that there is too much AD available for buying Zen.
This can be remedied two ways:
* Reduce overall AD generation.
* Give AD more value so it is spent as AD and not converted to Zen
My suggestion for reducing AD generation without hurting the normal player too much would be aggressively combating the bots. The bots in RQ must be generating significant amounts of AD.
To make people spend we need something that has game value, and that can be upgraded repeatedly for big AD. Exactly what is hard to say.. you would not want the game to go pay to win either. We definitely needs to have some AD drained from the game.