Mysterious Merchant (not sure if fix worked)

joe123thewayward · June 2017

Currently my guild and two allied guilds built the Mysterious Merchant after the patch. We all got identical gear the Executioner's Black Attier and the Wisley's Dreaded Wristguards. If anyone would like a temp guild memebership to go shopping let me know.

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ltgamesttv · June 2017

It seems that something didn't work quite as intended? 3/3 of our alliance guilds all got the same gear from the Mysterious merchant.

beckylunatic · June 2017

I'm telling you all that there are probably only 8 pieces of gear the MM can even spawn now.

ghoulz66 · June 2017

Hell why are we even bothering to blow all of our marks with new gear coming now? I only got some of the gear for likely just transmute fodder.

santralafax · June 2017

beckylunatic said:
I'm telling you all that there are probably only 8 pieces of gear the MM can even spawn now.

THIS

oldbaldyone · June 2017

Checked with like 5-6 guilds, and all had the exact same items.

Can we get confirmation as to what is actually ON the vendors on live? Cause on preview, there was a decent variety.

beckylunatic · June 2017

oldbaldyone said:
Can we get confirmation as to what is actually ON the vendors on live? Cause on preview, there was a decent variety.

They really don't seem to want to tell us because it would ruin the surprise (of getting the same items repeatedly), but if we eliminate everything that looks like the same stats and bonus as a dungeon item, and anything else for shirt and pants slots, it leaves a grand total of 8 items, all of which have been confirmed by multiple guilds.

Since we have had no confirmation to date of all the items we'd be eliminating by doing this, despite multiple guilds looking for them, I think it's pretty freaking safe to conclude that they do not currently exist in the live build.

Abductive reasoning ftw.

By the way, 8 items in sets of 2 still gives 28 possible combinations, and technically there are more total possible combinations of stock because of the furnishings, assuming the stock is actually randomized and not configured in predetermined sets (which is possible).

nitocris83 · June 2017

Hi everyone! I'm trying to get some more concrete info on this. The priority last week was to make changes in the system so that the exact same inventory didn't occur twice in a row. The quick run down of how this work is that an inventory selection is given an ID number. When players go to build a new Mysterious Merchant, the system takes that ID out of the pool of possible new selections. Please note that this ID is not shared across guilds in the same alliance so it is still possible for multiple guilds in the same alliance to get the same inventory at the same time.

This week I'm following up on reports from guilds saying that they are getting consecutive dupe inventories since the system change should impact every guild. It would help if players could clarify whether all items were the same (excluding the scenes of the sword coast since that will always be the same) or just the sought after ones are duplicating.

Additional items will also be added to the Mysterious Merchant over time so the inventory should expand.

beckylunatic · June 2017

So, @nitocris83 two guilds in my alliance have this same gear (also merchant portrait and what I believe is the most common banner the MM can sell - it's yellow and blue) and another guild on Reddit is reporting the same gear as well. That's not a huge data set, but it does seem somewhat improbable that every guild who has mentioned their MM selection would be pulling absolutely identical inventories after the fix. Like, are all guilds (accidentally) started from the same ID number and then potentially going to go through them in order?

Ed: My sample does not overlap 100% with guilds surveyed by Oldbaldyone as some of them were built later than when he posted.

litaaers · June 2017

Maybe things will randomize more once the second round comes around....

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reg1981 · June 2017

From a logic perspective If you can't have the same thing twice it first must be initialized somehow. Maybe this was the initialization and it'll grab new data next time around...

mattmonroe · June 2017

on xbox the 2 guilds in our alliance have the same exact inventories as mentioned above.

rueny · June 2017

My alliance has had 5 Mysterious Merchant in the last 2 weeks and all of them have had the exact same items including the Executioner's Black Attier and the Wisley's Dreaded Wristguards.

Treana from The Starks of Winterfell

oldbaldyone · June 2017

> @nitocris83 said:
> Additional items will also be added to the Mysterious Merchant over time so the inventory should expand.

That is almost EXACTLY what Commmander told us about the merchant in Underdark...and that vendor has not been touched except for like 2 transmutes that are still available in game.

Not going to hold my breath.

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beckylunatic · June 2017

joe123thewayward said:
Do not know anyone that built the MM this week. Its a significant expenditure of gems for something that appears to be bugged so that it does not drop the 3 items that are currently coveted: Lord's Magical Surcoat, pants, (dont recall the name) & shirt (dont recall the name).

Someone in my alliance bit the bullet and summoned the MM a second time running and he says it was the exact same inventory (Executioner and Wisley). I didn't visit to independently verify, but I trust him.

I'd advise that nobody build the MM again until Cryptic reports another attempt at fixing the randomizer. It seems to be totally stuck. (Unless you really want those particular items and couldn't afford them previously, I guess.)

Also, I repeat that I do not think the items people are currently chasing even exist, and in that case, you're really wasting your resources for nothing.

nitocris83 · June 2017

It's been re-escalated. Last week had some fires but I'm hoping to get eyes on it this week again.

tom · June 2017

> @nitocris83 said:
> It's been re-escalated. Last week had some fires but I'm hoping to get eyes on it this week again.

Thx for the increased communication

keep it up

reg1981 · June 2017

I'm starting to hear that round 2 of summoning the merchant gives the same items again!

nitocris83 · June 2017

Hey everyone! In order to investigate this issue thoroughly, we need some additional information. For guilds who have experienced the same inventory twice in a row, can you provide the list of items available from the merchant?

I am also working on gathering a full list of all the items currently available form the merchant.

muminekm · June 2017

nitocris83 said:
Hey everyone! In order to investigate this issue thoroughly, we need some additional information. For guilds who have experienced the same inventory twice in a row, can you provide the list of items available from the merchant?

I am also working on gathering a full list of all the items currently available form the merchant.

Same as mentioned above: Black attire, dreaded wristguard, sceans from the sword coast, Protector's Standard, Portrait of a Merchant. For three guilds in alliance.

Just a question - if there is such severe bug why there is no indication/warning anywhere? In our alliance 3 guild build MM at the same time just recently. Every one with the same gear. We could save a lot of resources if we would knew it doesn't work (and you were aware of this).

And the lack of gear like Sandy Assault Pants or Brutal Raider's Shirt for example is just design decision or it's also a bug? Would be nice to know this since we wouldn't want to build MM anymore (after previous purchases) if there is nothing more than current gear.

Thanks for the hard work and I hope it will get resolved quickly

nitocris83 · June 2017

Thanks @muminekm#3459 ! I want to clear up some confusion though:

Inventory can be the same for guilds within the same alliance, that is working as intended. The concern we're trying to investigate is the same guild getting the exact same selection twice in a row. So, has your guild specifically gotten the "Black attire, dreaded wristguard, sceans from the sword coast, Protector's Standard, Portrait of a Merchant" selection twice in a row?

Thanks!

muminekm#3459 said:

nitocris83 said:
Hey everyone! In order to investigate this issue thoroughly, we need some additional information. For guilds who have experienced the same inventory twice in a row, can you provide the list of items available from the merchant?

I am also working on gathering a full list of all the items currently available form the merchant.
Same as mentioned above: Black attire, dreaded wristguard, sceans from the sword coast, Protector's Standard, Portrait of a Merchant. For three guilds in alliance.

Just a question - if there is such severe bug why there is no indication/warning anywhere? In our alliance 3 guild build MM at the same time just recently. Every one with the same gear. We could save a lot of resources if we would knew it doesn't work (and you were aware of this).

And the lack of gear like Sandy Assault Pants or Brutal Raider's Shirt for example is just design decision or it's also a bug? Would be nice to know this since we wouldn't want to build MM anymore (after previous purchases) if there is nothing more than current gear.

Thanks for the hard work and I hope it will get resolved quickly

beckylunatic · June 2017

muminekm#3459 said:

Same as mentioned above: Black attire, dreaded wristguard, sceans from the sword coast, Protector's Standard, Portrait of a Merchant. For three guilds in alliance.

Identical inventory on two guilds in my alliance last week and one of those again this week.

And I really think the bug that needs to be investigated now is that the MM after the initial fix now cannot generate any inventory at all except this one. This is happening on PC and consoles.

There's not a single guild out there right now claiming they have anything different. This goes way beyond probability or coincidence.

thefabricant · June 2017

The only mysterious thing about this merchant right now is how his rng works, since his inventory is always the same.

oldbaldyone · June 2017

nitocris83 said:
Hey everyone! In order to investigate this issue thoroughly, we need some additional information. For guilds who have experienced the same inventory twice in a row, can you provide the list of items available from the merchant?

I am also working on gathering a full list of all the items currently available form the merchant.

Tuxedo T-Shirt Alliance guild:

2 weeks in a row, and I think another alliance guild had this before that also:

Wisley's Dreaded Wristguards
Executioner's Black Attire
Protector's Standard
Scenes of the Sword Coast
Portrait of the Merchant

pterias · June 2017

This is getting absurd. A LOT of guilds need to get a refund for the bugged MMs they've been building...

santralafax · June 2017

I think some other guild, like the Holy Crusaders, should test a couple of MMs for us.

kantick · June 2017

Hi, I'm playing on the ru server, this is the third time we have this:
Wisley's Dreaded Wristguards
Executioner's Black Attire

Other guilds in the alliance also have these same items 2-3 times in a row.

Mysterious Merchant (not sure if fix worked)

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