i dont get it.... why there is so much people crying about it?? we get this far with out the loadouts, changing skills in combat, but now that they add loudouts and you complain about CF in pve?? there is a motherf** campfire before any boss....if you need to do changes of feats and class in the middle of the boss, you realy need to take a break of the game and think what u are doing there
i dont get it.... why there is so much people crying about it?? we get this far with out the loadouts, changing skills in combat, but now that they add loudouts and you complain about CF in pve?? there is a motherf** campfire before any boss....if you need to do changes of feats and class in the middle of the boss, you realy need to take a break of the game and think what u are doing there
I have a friend who runs a business who tells a story about the nature of customer expectations. It's about a flight he was on recently where, upon getting on the flight, the stewardess announced that this was a plane that had wifi on it and people would be able to pay to use the internet in flight. The guy next to him thought that was pretty cool because he'd never had internet in flight. Once the plane got into the air no-one could connect and the attendant then announced that they were experiencing difficulties with the internet and no-one would be able to use it on this two hour flight. The guy next to him spent the whole flight complaining about how he deserved to use the internet because they said it was available and how he was very disappointed by the airline, etc etc, when he had never had the option before and had no idea this flight was going to have internet. Even so, he felt entitled to it and complained when he didn't get it.
I like the look of loadouts quite a bit. But, you can't please all of the people all of the time so, here we are.
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plasticbatMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 12,208Arc User
i dont get it.... why there is so much people crying about it?? we get this far with out the loadouts, changing skills in combat, but now that they add loudouts and you complain about CF in pve?? there is a motherf** campfire before any boss....if you need to do changes of feats and class in the middle of the boss, you realy need to take a break of the game and think what u are doing there
Well, can you count how many people in this thread complains about it? For the record, I did not. So, I count only one.
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Gonna disagree with this. Swapping out your spec shouldn't be an instant / mid-combat maneuver. It should be done away from things - and a campfire fits the bill perfectly.
I don't really see any usefulness in that. Currently every other player can make the build for their character that can carry them throughout entire content. It even diminishes uniqueness of our builds.
Thing that would be MUCH more useful for me at least is only powers swap, like having from 2 to maybe 5 different presets which we can quickly switch on the fly. Not everything from feats to equipment, just powers.
It is already possible and majority of players are doing it very often in higher tier content, but it's tedious, you have to open character menu, and manually swap in and out skills instead of switching with some hotkey, which would be much more convenient. You can't switch recharging skills plus there is also CD when you swapping, and that's fine. I'd even be ok if CD would be longer, but that would be 10 times more useful for everyone than what loadouts will provide.
Loadouts take it to extreme, when much smaller QoL improvement would be much more useful for pretty much everyone.
You *can* just swap out your powers. Just copy the old Feats, etc. This provides more flexibility.
Using up second build ability just for powers feels like brutal waste, I'd rather have second effective builds in this case in that slot. Plus it's still not convenient because campfire. You mostly need to swap powers during actual fights, and I have to do this all the time, got a little tired of it tbh...
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beckylunaticMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 14,231Arc User
If a loadout is inexpensive enough, it *might* be worth using one to switch between AoE and single-target for anything where there's a campfire right when you'd need to switch anyway. To me, this is really contingent on price.
But it's not likely to replace the need for mid-fight power swaps. And you won't be able to use a loadout for that.
plasticbatMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 12,208Arc User
The useful part is you can play more than one type of your class. For OP, you can be Paladin or Healadin. For DC, you can be DO or AA, ... If you buy more slots, you can have a character with 2 paragons x 3 trees.
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> @plasticbat said: > The useful part is you can play more than one type of your class. For OP, you can be Paladin or Healadin. For DC, you can be DO or AA, ... > If you buy more slots, you can have a character with 2 paragons x 3 trees.
If the price is decent, I'll likely add a third, to have the following: 1. My current AA DC buff/debuff build. 2. A DO build made for group content (one AA + one DO FTW!) 3. A solo / DPS build.
Oh sorry you were serious? *ahem* yes I must object to the uniqueness of my 5 points here instead of there diminishes the character of my character.
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Oh sorry you were serious? *ahem* yes I must object to the uniqueness of my 5 points here instead of there diminishes the character of my character.
What I'm saying is mostly everyone will have required builds in additional slots and will switch to them for specific content. Not saying there aren't any clone builds running around but that might push it over the top IMO.
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I like the look of loadouts quite a bit. But, you can't please all of the people all of the time so, here we are.
Thing that would be MUCH more useful for me at least is only powers swap, like having from 2 to maybe 5 different presets which we can quickly switch on the fly. Not everything from feats to equipment, just powers.
It is already possible and majority of players are doing it very often in higher tier content, but it's tedious, you have to open character menu, and manually swap in and out skills instead of switching with some hotkey, which would be much more convenient. You can't switch recharging skills plus there is also CD when you swapping, and that's fine. I'd even be ok if CD would be longer, but that would be 10 times more useful for everyone than what loadouts will provide.
Loadouts take it to extreme, when much smaller QoL improvement would be much more useful for pretty much everyone.
But it's not likely to replace the need for mid-fight power swaps. And you won't be able to use a loadout for that.
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If you buy more slots, you can have a character with 2 paragons x 3 trees.
> The useful part is you can play more than one type of your class. For OP, you can be Paladin or Healadin. For DC, you can be DO or AA, ...
> If you buy more slots, you can have a character with 2 paragons x 3 trees.
If the price is decent, I'll likely add a third, to have the following:
1. My current AA DC buff/debuff build.
2. A DO build made for group content (one AA + one DO FTW!)
3. A solo / DPS build.
Oh sorry you were serious? *ahem* yes I must object to the uniqueness of my 5 points here instead of there diminishes the character of my character.
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