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Storage Wars - Please Give back storage since taking so much away

kanenankanenan Member Posts: 115 Arc User
edited November 2016 in Player Feedback (PC)
Item Inflation vs Storage Stagnation

As the title suggests, you've (the devs) taken back more storage, unintentionally I'm sure, than given with the introduction of countless new items that we must keep to progress. You've, unknowingly I assume, declared absolute war on anyone keeping things for sentimental/golfbag value. I have maxed all personal storage via every means.. I'm not alone and thinking of new players with limited funds to purchase storage. It would be great if I could grind for an hour without needing to visit a merchant every 7th kill. I had every dagger set a tr could have gotten since launch when I returned in the summer. I have only the 3 most current sets now. That's just me. But man great collection it could have been right?

-Please give us a new inventory tab with 80-120 slots for all RP and Enchanting (Refining) related items, for starters.
There is triplification of many RP items. (BtC, BtA, UB). New marks, new shard types.
-Profession Node Kits should be placed in Profession Resources Tab.
-A KEY ring tab or inclusion on Wealth Tab with 20+/- slots for keys or something would be cool too.
-Increase both Profession Resources and Assets slots by 20-30
-A FISH BASKET (200 slots) for SoMI for the love of god.

-Storage is NOT cheap, please give back what you've taken away. Replying with "Mule your alts" is not constructive and sidesteps the argument.
Out of all the things people choose to argue about (turtle moult drops are FINE as they are.. ), PvP and OP class threads, this is the thing that annoys me and many I game with most. It's the little things. They add up and don't stack enough. :P
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,416 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    I know I am going to claim back a lot of inventory space tomorrow.
    Good luck for your wishes.
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    Although current complaints are more narrowly focused on things related directly to SoMI, there have been veritably a ton of threads pertaining to inventory management woes in the period leading up to that release. It's not like players have forgotten, but more of the inventory grievances are being mentioned tangentially in fishing threads.

    I absolutely agree it's a huge problem. I can have roughly a large bag empty and be completely full of fish after two treasure chests. Admittedly, not a runic bag, which is currently full of RP items with varying bind statuses, but I'm not replacing all my existing bound bags with runic bags just because the game is designed around bloat. HAMSTER you if you think you can bully me into buying things I don't want in order to relieve frustration. All that's going to accomplish is to make me constantly low-grade angry and resentful at the people who thought making all this junk was a good idea.
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  • kanenankanenan Member Posts: 115 Arc User
    I have maxed bank, shared and runic bags in all slots. Currently with a fairly minimal golfbag potions, keys and most common drops, 1 fish load chest sends me to the vendor. VIP Vendor mind you, but pita.. Imagine a newer player with 60-80 inventory slots and a basic bank. It is costly to get my kind of storage, but I'm a mature gamer with disposable income. A mealticket. :/
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,416 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    It is pretty obvious they won't give you free inventory space. It is against their bottom line. All the free stuff they gave so far had a string attached or is a carrot off the stick. They might give you a free bag but with a size so small that they knew it would not be enough. They limited to 6 bag slots (remember we were so 'happy' when they increased one bag slot; people were jumping joy to buy that extra bag) knowingly one of the solutions is to waste your smaller bag to get a larger one.

    If you cannot tolerate the suffering, you can either leave (to save their game resource) or to find a way to deal with it (hopefully, you will buy their bag).

    If you are hoping they will give you a solution, you will never get it. If you are lucky, they may give you 5% of what you asked (such as moving mount to stable). However, the chance is they will give you -50% of what you asked.
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  • tassedethe13tassedethe13 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 806 Arc User
    The fact is the more slot you have, the more junk you store.

    Even maxed bags, bank slots, you still have to struggle to have free slot...

    +For the request
  • dfncedfnce Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 509 Arc User
    I had zen collected to buy few Runic bags last 50% sale event for main characters that helped a bit, but in general i am running of space tremendously, because it is filled with insignia, SH vouchers, mix of bound/unbound RP. I don't even FISH. I remember back in mod 4 previous Cryptic team decided to put many game currencies and long term campaign items into separate "currency" space, but after some time Cryptic successfully work on undoing it, inventing a lot of new stuff with every mod. Even most obvious SH basic influence reward wasn't implemented as currency but as bag item.

    Now once game has new refinement items for mod 10.5 weapons, in next mods i bet I can expect new better powerful enchantments and runestones which require their own RP (non-obtainable with leadership or utility stones) and new reagents, each of them in unbound, BtC, BtA form as well. This way we may end up with necessity of bags having 128 slots worth 10k ZEN.
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  • darthpotaterdarthpotater Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    Even with all banks maxed, all orange bags, I am in a huge problem every day. I would pay for anything that gives me storage.
    In professions, I have everything full and I cant craft! have to put items in ah to craft!
    And new RP new marks blue, purple,orange,x3!!! so 9 new slots, + new refinement + fish + + + + + +

    MINIMUM we need profession tab to be infinite (resources and asset) and RP Tab (RP, marks, wards, etc.)
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,416 Arc User

    Even with all banks maxed, all orange bags, I am in a huge problem every day. I would pay for anything that gives me storage.
    In professions, I have everything full and I cant craft! have to put items in ah to craft!
    And new RP new marks blue, purple,orange,x3!!! so 9 new slots, + new refinement + fish + + + + + +

    MINIMUM we need profession tab to be infinite (resources and asset) and RP Tab (RP, marks, wards, etc.)

    For you the immediate effective solution (instead of praying solution that will never come) is to add alt.
    That double your profession slot immediately.

    I hate to say that but this is the only realistic solution that does not involve praying for all gods. On the other hand, praying also gives you more stuff to fill your bags and many of us do that many many times per day with other toons.
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,416 Arc User



    For you the immediate effective solution (instead of praying solution that will never come) is to add alt.
    That double your profession slot immediately.

    I hate to say that but this is the only realistic solution that does not involve praying for all gods. On the other hand, praying also gives you more stuff to fill your bags and many of us do that many many times per day with other toons.

    No Realistic until they give me the ability to Transfer more than 5 assets at a time in a manner that is not the mail system, oh I don't know, let us call it the "Account Shared Professions Asset Bank" and let it start with 60 slots for ease of Storage and Transfer.

    You can keep on praying. :)
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  • kanenankanenan Member Posts: 115 Arc User
    Exactly. Let's leave alts, muling, mail out of this. What needs to happen is many new items and currency type items need to be designated as such to restore storage freedom. Please work within this scope with your replies, this is the Feedback Forum, and positive solution based feedback is the way to get things moving. It's about ideas bro..
    It sucks having had to scrap all of my tr armor sets and dagger sets.. i still have every cloak i've been rewarded minus the types that are all the same.. RP takes 50% of total inventory. And I'm not a huge RP seller or upgrader.. For example. Tab that for starters!!
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  • kanenankanenan Member Posts: 115 Arc User
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,416 Arc User
    kanenan said:
    Strum is gone. You need Julia (@nitocris83) now.
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  • darthpotaterdarthpotater Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    Alts are not a solution.
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  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 2,894 Arc User
    I'm nearly maxed out on inventory on my main and still face tremendous issues because of the hundreds of different items we have to keep for progression/gameplay reasons. Multiple sets of gear (pvp), a bit of RP, consumables, a set of enchantments (because not every build needs the same), all the event items I don't want to grind again... This is madness! I'd need not one but two new bags slots. On an almost maxed out char. WTF cryptic.
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,416 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    etelgrin said:

    Alts are no solution simply because they are full of refinement or other droppable things from enchanted coffers and other stuff you do on your alts with leadership or so on.

    If you play alts as real characters, it is obvious not a solution.
    You need a alts that do nothing besides holding your stuff.
    I have alts that are level 4 and stay as level 4.

    I have an alt who is the master of "potion".
    I have an alt who is the master of "transmute".
    I have an alt who is the master of "r4 enchantment".
    I have an alt who is the master of "r5 enchantment".
    I have an alt who is the master of "r6 enchantment".
    I have an alt who is the master of "r7+ enchantment".
    I have an alt who is the master of "weapon/armour enchantment".
    I have an alt who is the master of "Artifact".
    I have an alt who is the master of "Companion".
    I have 4 alts who are master of 99 (holding 99 of misc stuff).
    I have alt who is the master of lockboxes.
    .....



    For me, alts is "42" for this game. I don't see a real "solution" in the edge of the galaxy (horizon is too close).

    For the enchanted coffer, 2 weeks ago, I opened over 400 coffers for one toon who had 4 inventory slots left. With shared bank and private guide bank, it was not as bad as I thought.
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  • kanenankanenan Member Posts: 115 Arc User
    Leave Alts and Alt Muling out of this discussion as I said in the OP. It defeats the whole premise that they need to fix a bunch of items that should never have become bag space inventory or were overlooked including the barrage of new items that must be carried for progression INCLUDING the items each character uses as potion/golfbag/RP/keys etc.. Said it all. We need mods/devs to say they agree and or at least that they are reading here..
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  • dfncedfnce Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 509 Arc User
    Extra bag space purchased with ZEN should be quality of life, convenience matter motivated, not obligation.

    What can be done?

    1) Create concept of quest bag of infinite size. Such solution exists in some other games. It is up to developers how much items they want to invent, but they have to understand that every new mod should not force player base for another bag purchase.

    Such quest bag shall keep only items player needs to complete quests/missions. In NWO such missions are about doing repetitive content, i would place items associated with such activity into this bag. I would like to see all fish, SH vouchers, dungeon/skirmish keys going into "quest" bag. You name it.

    2) Obvious currency items must to be in currencies.


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  • flyingleonflyingleon Member Posts: 451 Arc User
    The problem is not about storage alone, and it is also about sorting items costs a lot of time.

    You can pay to get more space, but that means you need to sort more stuff, say sorting BoE, BoA and BoC. That is just plain stupid because even paying will not make players' life easier. In the end, what they did annoies everyone.

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  • btairbornebtairborne Member Posts: 352 Arc User
    I doubt they are concerned, it happens in every game.
  • nitocris83nitocris83 Member, Cryptic Developer, Administrator Posts: 4,498 Cryptic Developer
    Hey everyone! As a hoarder of things and forgetter of going to a vendor, I totally get the inventory frustration. It's on my list of items to tackle with the Dev team in terms of things that can vastly improve game QoL and overall experience.

    (Not that I only surface issues that impact me but just wanted to point out that I have a soft spot for this cause)
  • kanenankanenan Member Posts: 115 Arc User
    @nitocris83 Thanks for letting it be known!
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  • dionchidionchi Member Posts: 919 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    Last big discount sale I bought 5 or more Runic bags for my level 70 characters, which actually kind of sucks since I can only play one character at a time and it would be much more convenient (not to mention cheaper) if I could transfer one Runic bag from an inactive character to the one I'm playing, but I understand the need for the game to make money to continue to offer the players the best possible gaming experience available (cough, cough) ;)

    Since then having maxed out my character slot allotment, I have several more characters that I leveled up to 70 and decided I'd even buy bags for all of my characters when they went on sale for 50% (or more off) since I intend to eventually level them all up anyway...

    Guess what - the bags didn't go on sale for 50% off and they or other select items certainly didn't go on sale for more than 50% off as I hoped they would, so I decided I really didn't need to purchase all of those bags or bank storage slots anyway... more as a matter of principle than any serious objection to what felt like being short changed on the Black Friday sale, compared to what it was even last year.

    Neverwinter's loss my gain.

    It is a bit of an inconvenience, but only a minor one IMO and although I did still spend some money this year (about a third of what I previously spent during this same sale a year ago), I'm beginning to discover how many things I don't really have to have - even though I wanted to have those items and I've totally abandoned any plan to have "collections" of fashion, mounts or companions, etc. due to the limited storage space.
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  • kanenankanenan Member Posts: 115 Arc User
    And with Gond upon us.. let's revisit the need to restore open storage for players after spending MONEY on BAGS only to have the game eat up the Expensive Storage ONCE AGAIN.

    Coffee.

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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,416 Arc User

    lol if you want more storage im sure someone will sell you a fully unlocked guild rank 1 SH with every bank tab open for about 2-3 mill AD

    That is even more work than getting a mule character. I have a personal guild myself BTW.
    My main character is in a real guild. In order to pass stuff from my main to the personal guild, I need to:

    1. main character put stuff to shared bank.
    2. bring up alt character to take stuff from shared bank.
    3. Alt character put stuff to personal guild.

    Keeping stuff in alt takes 2 steps.
    Putting stuff to personal guild needs 3 steps.

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