will you guys fix crafting so it doesnt take forever to progress a skill since you will not beable to work on it unless you are in game?
Improving professions is something near and dear to a few of us. I would like to have an update on it within the next few modules. There is nothing planned yet but there is a lot of missed potential with how it currently is in a number of ways.
Next few modules? Panderus, have you all gone mad? You;ve taken away the Gateway, numerous people have advised how the Gateway is literally made for Professions. You have timers on tasks that make zero sense across multiple toons. Trying to level up a profession without being able to leverage the gateway (with it's insanely easy interface - you need to put some of the QOL features into the game from Gateway) is going to be nigh impossible.
You all want to revamp professions, it needs to happen now, not in a year - you wont have any customers by then.
I feel the need to chime in on this thread just because I loved how I was able to check on my game while away and able to play SCA while I had free time.. I will admit I did keep and buy certain pets in order to do the SCA Tier 6 while I don't regret that I mean I got some cool stuff from it. I farmed SCA but I did it for myself, never saw that thief would have sold it. But I will admit I loved SCA also because I would say 'I choose you...' (yeah of that group of people) and my favorite pet was my Argos (named after a faithful pet from the Iliad and the Odyssey) a Skeletal Dog from the very beginning of the game I have had this pet since I have even started playing this game. I saved up AD for it even upgraded it when they added that feature, I love this pet of mine and now he is my Bonding Augment. With SCA Argos was my catch all there were few things he couldn't do and it made me like doing SCA even more...even if I barely got anything cool...I mean I have done SCA easily 50+ times and only seen one Loyal Avenger Ring and kept it. So I will miss this feature very much and glad to hear how we will get our free pet..I know we shouldn't complain about something we are getting for free but I wish it was a little better. I do love the look and pet type (i.e. augment) but I think it should at least be Purple and a really cool and effective bonus. I would give a suggestion but I can't think of one not that you would change that now..
However if you developers see nothing but this sentence please consider this, have the Loyal gear drop in the Stronghold Heroic Encounters and if you do make them BoA please also make said gear salvageable.
Here's to the hope of seeing the loot of SCA appear in-game sooner rather than later, also I would much rather see these rewards than a new class, race, or even a new module. I can't wait to see a new class or race but I hope you fix the hole gateway is leaving us first..
i am not in a guild. how would people not in guild get the stuff then? need to make it gainable by everyone. love your opinions and ideas though.
will you guys fix crafting so it doesnt take forever to progress a skill since you will not beable to work on it unless you are in game?
Improving professions is something near and dear to a few of us. I would like to have an update on it within the next few modules. There is nothing planned yet but there is a lot of missed potential with how it currently is in a number of ways. @andorrabell We have not yet decided a place for the SCA rewards yet, we still need to review where they would fit and make the time to do it at a time that makes sense. I don't think the community would appreciate waiting another week just to hear where we will put the rewards that they can't get yet,
Actually I think they would. We're looking at 2 million AD for a ring of the loyal avenger atm. They used to be 200k.
The playerbase needs an answer so they can know whether or not they should be spending that kind of AD on equipment depending on how long they'll have to wait for your solution.
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will you guys fix crafting so it doesnt take forever to progress a skill since you will not beable to work on it unless you are in game?
Improving professions is something near and dear to a few of us. I would like to have an update on it within the next few modules. There is nothing planned yet but there is a lot of missed potential with how it currently is in a number of ways.
@andorrabell We have not yet decided a place for the SCA rewards yet, we still need to review where they would fit and make the time to do it at a time that makes sense. I don't think the community would appreciate waiting another week just to hear where we will put the rewards that they can't get yet,
A general tag with the "Gateway going down" announcement that they *are* coming back and a timeframe though would not have hurt. Those of us who are forum vultures know you have said they are coming back somewhere but .. as much as I have love we've also been told we are getting a 2AD weekend (scrapped, what, winter '15?) and the old dungeons are coming back (eta... before hell freezes over?) . We are a little gunshy at this point at interpreting vague comments in an optimistic way. Help us help you. @panderus
I do really appreciate the direct communication now on these issues, albeit that it was a few weeks late..
All of PWE games use the same money making formula now. Little endgame/new content, no worthwhile rewards, typical asian style grind fest, and it's all about the rng boxes. It's just a turn em an burn set up. It's sad I love NW but it's just gets worse with each mod because more stuff is taken away. I really hope they get a good influx of cash from the console releases so hopefully they can change this current formula.
will you guys fix crafting so it doesnt take forever to progress a skill since you will not beable to work on it unless you are in game?
Improving professions is something near and dear to a few of us. I would like to have an update on it within the next few modules. There is nothing planned yet but there is a lot of missed potential with how it currently is in a number of ways. @andorrabell We have not yet decided a place for the SCA rewards yet, we still need to review where they would fit and make the time to do it at a time that makes sense. I don't think the community would appreciate waiting another week just to hear where we will put the rewards that they can't get yet,
Actually I think they would. We're looking at 2 million AD for a ring of the loyal avenger atm. They used to be 200k.
The playerbase needs an answer so they can know whether or not they should be spending that kind of AD on equipment depending on how long they'll have to wait for your solution.
best method to fixing this is to make it so no one buys it from ah. that's why i suggested a merchant we can buy companion gear with all the gold piles we have hoarded up. gold is suppose to be the second most useful currency; where ad and zen are tied for first. but gold is so useless that all the campaign currencies and even bounty currencies are more useful.
why not improve how much gold is needed. i mean its already fairly hard to get. well not for me cause i pick up every piece of loot and sell it. but my dad who also plays this hasn't even gotten 100 gold yet. cause most players don't pick up green gear and that's a good amount of gold right their.
basically i am trying to find a way to make companion gear easy to get and easy to get for everyone. make it cost 50 gold or 100 gold for just a piece; we only need 3 pieces so that's really not a lot of gold.
current uses for gold: remove enchantments/runestones, potions, injury kits, node kits (nature, arcane, dungeon, religious, thievery) potions don't need to be bought cause they drop easily as you fight. if you have lathander set bonus or high enough vip you don't need injury kits. and node kits are pretty useless since the nodes don't drop anything good that often. i got 1 dragon egg in a month of opening nodes, and that was my only purple lvl drop.
Perhaps now would be a good time to give us that 2xAD you owe us from a YEAR ago now pretty much. @panderus@strumslinger . Clearly making changes to the economy that are bad for us are not a problem to do at the drop of a hat so how about lets observe something we actually want.
The closing of GW was done terribly poorly and unprofessionally, as it appears. The problem of bots did not emerge a week or a month ago, if there was an intention to disable the GW, there should have been PLENTY of time to think it out beforehand and do it seamlessly, quick and right - prepare reasonable SCA content relocation, redesign in-game professions interface to enable same functionality, add some cross-toon inventory view functions, in other words, transfer GW convenience features in-game some way or other. If bots were tolerated for so long, a couple of extra weeks or even months preparation for GW shutdown would not have made any significant difference. Only then shutdown and issue of a ready not-so-big patch introducing changes, closing the now existing content gaps, removing the no longer necessary in-game items - within the same day or two. If such a patch will appear soon, there's no info. As for now, even the obsolete NPC messages referencing the GW and SCA (in first companion quest, for example) are still there, looks like a mockery, really. Gold spammers still spam, apparently unaffected... PS. All this talk about PCs versus consoles as the main reason - I think it's improbable, really, everyone with a console has a smartphone or a tablet, or something else with browser Internet access to use the late GW pretty much the same way PC players did.
There is only one reason I have spent the time and money to upgrade so many companions to purple. That reason has been SCA. I havnt played SCA in a while because of work obligations but I have spent an immense amount of recources since launch to refine my SCA dungeon delving team. Where is the compensation for that time??? I doubt I will have logged in in their time frame to get the gond augment...
Dissapointed that I have spent so much time and money to progress in something that is now gone.....
I dont even know how to put into accurat words how betrayed I feel...
Ara Atheanes GWF
Traxus Atheanes GF
Bastiel Atheanes DC
Ellara Atheanes CW
Keira Atheanes TR
Sarasin Atheanes SW
Jerkface McGee HR
-MANTARA- OP
OK, so Gateway is gone. We've lost some QoL stuff, and some items no longer have a home. Here's all my suggestions on the topic, many of which echo or resemble those that others have already given.
Short Term Workarounds
Add Companion Gear and Lightfoot Thief to the Trade Bar store. If you don't want to make them that easy to get, then create a recurring event instead of leaving them in there all the time. " The Lightfoot Thieve's Guild has been hard at work again and some of their best loot is available in the Tradebar Store for a limited time. You could even obtain the services of one of their members if the price is right!"
" Tbar store already makes it hard to get "
A Double RP event would be appreciated as well.
Long Term Suggestions
Professions Re-work: It's time to add some serious QoL enhancements to Professions. It's also a good time to encourage the use of ALL Professions again.
" i agree it would be nice to benefit from getting all professions to max "
Professions and Bound RP
There has been a growing fear lately that you are going to make all Profession RP BtA. I offer a compromise. Make the BtC Containers that the stones come in usable as RP directly, but you can choose to open them to share or sell the unbound stones inside. The catch is that using the character bound container will be a better return on average than you will get out of the stones inside. For example, I suggest that a Resonant Bag could be used as 4,000 refinement points. Opening the bag has a chance to give you a blue stone worth 5,000 RP, but is much more likely to give you a green one worth 2,500 RP or a gray one worth only 500. This will, on average, increase the amount of RP a character can gather for themselves while still making a supply available on the AH or to share. Artifact Paraphernalia bags would grant 4,000 to any Artifact whether it be Power, Stability, or Union.
" a very interesting idea +1 "
Nodes and Resources
Remove Mount Insignia from resource nodes. See Leadership, below.
Remove rare (blue) and epic (purple) profession resources from resource nodes.
Add bounty and campaign currency items appropriate to the zone the resource nodes are in.
Add uncommon (green), rare (blue), and epic (purple) profession resources to the bounty, campaign currency and maybe seal vendors (based on zone or content level).
" that will make nodes useless then, i like having a reason to buy the kits for the nodes (first bullet) " " i don't quite understand what are you saying here (4'th bullet) "
All Professions
Add "Collect All" Button.
Add "Repeat" checkbox next to the Collect buttons, including new Collect All. This would attempt to re-queue the same task using the same assets. It would require interaction with the button though, not be an infinite repeat button.
" +1 to this, make accepting and restarting the same tasks a little easier "
Leadership
Revamp Leadership to actually reflect being a leader. Rewards should be relevant to those you lead: your mounts and companions. Leadership should not be the primary way to upgrade your gear when we have other Professions that are specifically about gear.
Remove RP tasks from Leadership.
Add tasks that reward Companion XP Tomes.
Add tasks that reward Companion Upgrade Tokens.
Add "Mounted Combat Drill" task that rewards containers with random Mount Insignia inside.
Add "Dead or Alive" tasks that send soldiers into various Zones to collect the Bounty items for that zone.
Add a "Recruitment Drive" task that rewards a container that holds a random Event Companion, including a chance for the Lightfoot Thief.
Add tasks that reward the same Bags of Goods that drop from Quartermaster's enchantments. (Donate to stronghold or open for goods.)
" add a way to gain a tier of rewards so that higher tiers can earn higher quality rewards. like if you have enough for tier 3 you have a chance for epic mount insignias, tier 2 for rare, tier 1 for common " " would be nice to improve the ways to gain the companion upgrade tokens " " not bad but i think this should only be active when the event companion is up, perhaps a way to improve would be... rare task: event. chance to drop event companion, drops medallions of battle, and a rarer chance at lightfoot thief and damarian shepherd (make shepherd a blue drop)"
Alchemy
Add a task that rewards Thaumaturgic Bags.
Artificing
Add a task that rewards Artifact Paraphernalia bags.
Jewelcrafting
Add tasks that reward "Gemstone" RP (Sapphires, Pearls, Rubies, Peridot).
" move the artifact paraphernalia bags to jewelcrafting or make the artifact paraphernalia bag gained frmo weaponsmithing and artificing " " i think weaponsmithing and artificing should give a bag that has a chance drop for cubes of augmentation and a guaranteed drop for resonance stones "
Longer Term Suggestions
Account Panel
Create an account panel that shows all your characters, like the guild roster. Select any character to do all of the following:
Manage the professions queue of any character.
View the character sheet, mail, and inventory of all characters.
VIP accounts get a fully functional version of mail as if at a mailbox.
VIP accounts get an Account Bank tab.
VIP accounts can move items and gold from any character's inventory in and out of the Account Bank.
Also add AD to the Account bank for VIPs so they can move or consolidate it without the ZAX.
SCA Mini-Game
Make Sword Coast Adventures a mini-game playable in game. Possibly launched by interacting with a Well-Informed Harper since they tend to hang out in taverns where one might play games. If it's too server intensive, maybe make it available occasionally as an event.
" or make 2 npc's in the moonstone mask (one inside vip room and one outside- or none outside and make it a vip treat; you will have tons more players buying vip then.). keep npc's by a counter or table with a board game nearby, let us interact with the board game to teleport us, so we don't stand their using the space blocking others from use it too, can teleport us to one of the spare rooms inside moonstone mask or at the door entrance. once we are teleported a window will open that lets us play SCA. just an opinion "
" comments in yellow ", +1 to the post " +1, +1, +1. give us more reasons to get vip, cause right now its not been worth it really, 1 enchanted key a day which always gives me lame loot. "
It is sad for me that sword coast chronicles will never be seen. I have tried to log on to them once or twice a month just to upgrade my companions and see the content it looked like it would be cool and a little different for those times I did not feel like playing the real game. That being said, I have played nw since January this year and have never been able to log into the scc, so I guess I get nothing, which kind of sucks for me since it was probably the bot activity that kept me from being to log into it in the first place. I think you should give everyone that is vip the gizmo's lol, would make me happy, or like I saw posted make them available in game some how... but what about the dice and such for companions and gear? Things I always wanted to work on getting but could not. I think it is smart though that you put main game security and service first, thanks for that. Botting, hacks, and professional gamers are not going away, so I hope you come up with a good solution for the problems that is easily maintained. Good luck and don't forget us vip'rs who support the game
Actually, there is no "workaround" for getting to play swordcoast adventures...or really anything during your lunch hour at work other than bringing a laptop, which i am not going to do. I meant it when i said that I was done spending actual money for arc games if the gateway did not come back up. So, since I was just paid today, as promised, here is a list of what I purchased in instead of buying some zen, like I normally would. today's purchase: 1 box of Warhammer Screamers of Tzeentch. About $22 and change. Really, the only thing Arc understands is money. They do not understand customer service or trust, or think that either of those items effect the bottom line. it is a pity.
@panderus What does Cryptic plan to do about this?
those prices will drop like a rock if my idea is done... if you can buy these with gold-easy to get no worries (this is my idea) if you can buy with seals-will end up being account bound and you will have to farm ti but still kind of easy to get if you can buy with tbar price wont go down and will be a pain to get
Actually, there is no "workaround" for getting to play swordcoast adventures...or really anything during your lunch hour at work other than bringing a laptop, which i am not going to do. I meant it when i said that I was done spending actual money for arc games if the gateway did not come back up. So, since I was just paid today, as promised, here is a list of what I purchased in instead of buying some zen, like I normally would. today's purchase: 1 box of Warhammer Screamers of Tzeentch. About $22 and change. Really, the only thing Arc understands is money. They do not understand customer service or trust, or think that either of those items effect the bottom line. it is a pity.
Actually, there is no "workaround" for getting to play swordcoast adventures...or really anything during your lunch hour at work other than bringing a laptop, which i am not going to do. I meant it when i said that I was done spending actual money for arc games if the gateway did not come back up. So, since I was just paid today, as promised, here is a list of what I purchased in instead of buying some zen, like I normally would. today's purchase: 1 box of Warhammer Screamers of Tzeentch. About $22 and change. Really, the only thing Arc understands is money. They do not understand customer service or trust, or think that either of those items effect the bottom line. it is a pity.
very nice buy... i kind of want one now.
Thanks! I am putting them together now. I do like the way Warhammer minis come with a variety of parts to use, so you can customize them a bit.
@strumslinger@panderus can you make the rough ad boost 100%? instead of 50% cause i currently am not able to burn enough rough ad boost; i am almost at 80k now. i can't grind all day long to burn this so i cant just get rid of it easily like grinders do.
if you cant that's fine too. just means i have to find a way to farm more blue rings and mail them to myself. (or any gear not jsut blue rings)
Actually, there is no "workaround" for getting to play swordcoast adventures...or really anything during your lunch hour at work other than bringing a laptop, which i am not going to do. I meant it when i said that I was done spending actual money for arc games if the gateway did not come back up. So, since I was just paid today, as promised, here is a list of what I purchased in instead of buying some zen, like I normally would. today's purchase: 1 box of Warhammer Screamers of Tzeentch. About $22 and change. Really, the only thing Arc understands is money. They do not understand customer service or trust, or think that either of those items effect the bottom line. it is a pity.
very nice buy... i kind of want one now.
Thanks! I am putting them together now. I do like the way Warhammer minis come with a variety of parts to use, so you can customize them a bit.
gl mate. 22 dollars huh, i might get one. ill have to take a long term plan on it though.
i am currently asking for peoples stuff here in these forums =D so far no bites. cause if people are gonna quite the game they might as well get rid of their stuff and ill take anything that will help my fairly weak 3k character.
if people quite this game cause they don't want to invest time into it that is fine its your agenda but lets continue to keep the talking nice, polite. and keep rude or flaming comment out. cause no one wants to get their comments removed. i know this is off topic so i am in the red for it too.
as a note to try ans stay on topic. what is the future plans for next mod? when do you plan on thinking about the dead gateway and preserving it? can you bring back gateway until next mod?
if you plan on quitting i can make it a bit easier for you to quit. give me all your stuff spend your ad on pres wards and mail it to me, spend your gold on injury kits and mail em too me, just mail me everything. =D cause if you have nothing to return to then it will make you not want to come back even more. so far only one person has ever given me their stuff before they quit the game and it really helped my character out. Genj@genjundead is my character.
This sucks. Removal of well used functionality in the service is never a good thing, and Cryptic are getting a bit too good at it. (Give us dungeons back.. )
But we should not be blind to that this is the best decision all over: * Robots are a real problem.. and since Web gives so good access to the user interface, it is very easy to bot anything on the Web. To make the Gateway problem-free, they would have to turn it into a read-only service with no direct positive effect on game. It would lose most of its value anyways then.
* The PC is important to Cryptic as their development platform. However, I would assume that the majority of players currently are on PS4 and XBox. So the incentive to keep the GW alive is reduced, it only services a small part of the users.
* Most MMORPG's will lose players and slowly get less used over time. This is the normal product lifecycle. Something gotta give as the income to maintain the game gets less. I would rather the GW goes away than we get less new stuff in game.
Hey, I have an idea! Everyone's getting the apparatus? Then let's everybody name them "BRING BACK THE GATEWAY YOU LAZY, GREEDY HAMSTER!" in capital letters :P
Well placed, I strongly support your fearsome fight against evil botters but I don't know if you guys are aware that PE is full of them... chat as well... You might consider removing both PE and chat all together. That would kill them completely... final nail in the coffin sort of speak...
protectors enclave is the world of botters =P why not remove mail and chat system then botters cant get anything. remove the ah too. anything that botters benefit from which also us players benefit from. like gateway and ad from leadership and ad from invokes. it didn't hurt botters in the slightest they just botted something else instead and actual players lose a lot.
but i fully support the dev's. no matter what they change sure i will give my opinion, but it's just an opinion. when people start leaving neverwinter. sometimes i get free stuff from quitters, so that's nice too.
every gamer has botters, some more then others; dealing with them is the issue and is the only way; the dev's did just that.
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You all want to revamp professions, it needs to happen now, not in a year - you wont have any customers by then.
The playerbase needs an answer so they can know whether or not they should be spending that kind of AD on equipment depending on how long they'll have to wait for your solution.
I do really appreciate the direct communication now on these issues, albeit that it was a few weeks late..
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why not improve how much gold is needed. i mean its already fairly hard to get. well not for me cause i pick up every piece of loot and sell it. but my dad who also plays this hasn't even gotten 100 gold yet. cause most players don't pick up green gear and that's a good amount of gold right their.
basically i am trying to find a way to make companion gear easy to get and easy to get for everyone. make it cost 50 gold or 100 gold for just a piece; we only need 3 pieces so that's really not a lot of gold.
current uses for gold: remove enchantments/runestones, potions, injury kits, node kits (nature, arcane, dungeon, religious, thievery) potions don't need to be bought cause they drop easily as you fight. if you have lathander set bonus or high enough vip you don't need injury kits. and node kits are pretty useless since the nodes don't drop anything good that often. i got 1 dragon egg in a month of opening nodes, and that was my only purple lvl drop.
PS. All this talk about PCs versus consoles as the main reason - I think it's improbable, really, everyone with a console has a smartphone or a tablet, or something else with browser Internet access to use the late GW pretty much the same way PC players did.
Dissapointed that I have spent so much time and money to progress in something that is now gone.....
I dont even know how to put into accurat words how betrayed I feel...
Traxus Atheanes GF
Bastiel Atheanes DC
Ellara Atheanes CW
Keira Atheanes TR
Sarasin Atheanes SW
Jerkface McGee HR
-MANTARA- OP
" +1, +1, +1. give us more reasons to get vip, cause right now its not been worth it really, 1 enchanted key a day which always gives me lame loot. "
if you can buy these with gold-easy to get no worries (this is my idea)
if you can buy with seals-will end up being account bound and you will have to farm ti but still kind of easy to get
if you can buy with tbar price wont go down and will be a pain to get
can you make the rough ad boost 100%? instead of 50% cause i currently am not able to burn enough rough ad boost; i am almost at 80k now. i can't grind all day long to burn this so i cant just get rid of it easily like grinders do.
if you cant that's fine too. just means i have to find a way to farm more blue rings and mail them to myself. (or any gear not jsut blue rings)
i am currently asking for peoples stuff here in these forums =D so far no bites. cause if people are gonna quite the game they might as well get rid of their stuff and ill take anything that will help my fairly weak 3k character.
as a note to try ans stay on topic. what is the future plans for next mod?
when do you plan on thinking about the dead gateway and preserving it?
can you bring back gateway until next mod?
if you plan on quitting i can make it a bit easier for you to quit. give me all your stuff spend your ad on pres wards and mail it to me, spend your gold on injury kits and mail em too me, just mail me everything. =D cause if you have nothing to return to then it will make you not want to come back even more. so far only one person has ever given me their stuff before they quit the game and it really helped my character out. Genj@genjundead is my character.
But we should not be blind to that this is the best decision all over:
* Robots are a real problem.. and since Web gives so good access to the user interface, it is very easy to bot anything on the Web. To make the Gateway problem-free, they would have to turn it into a read-only service with no direct positive effect on game. It would lose most of its value anyways then.
* The PC is important to Cryptic as their development platform. However, I would assume that the majority of players currently are on PS4 and XBox. So the incentive to keep the GW alive is reduced, it only services a small part of the users.
* Most MMORPG's will lose players and slowly get less used over time. This is the normal product lifecycle. Something gotta give as the income to maintain the game gets less. I would rather the GW goes away than we get less new stuff in game.
Mod edit - don't circumvent the profanity filter.
why not remove mail and chat system then botters cant get anything. remove the ah too. anything that botters benefit from which also us players benefit from. like gateway and ad from leadership and ad from invokes. it didn't hurt botters in the slightest they just botted something else instead and actual players lose a lot.
but i fully support the dev's. no matter what they change sure i will give my opinion, but it's just an opinion.
when people start leaving neverwinter. sometimes i get free stuff from quitters, so that's nice too.
every gamer has botters, some more then others; dealing with them is the issue and is the only way; the dev's did just that.
EDIT: parts of this was just meant as a joke =D